DC crime stats - holy Toledo

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https://mpdc.dc.gov/page/district-crime-data-glance


The year is only a little half over, yet crime stats are blowing 2022 out of the water. The number of robberies and carjackings is truly absurd. I guess this is the progress the voters wanted and the outcome of restorative justice. DC, where you can do whatever you want and there are no consequences for anything. Congress needs to step in at this point, because it is clear the DC govt is incapable of fulfilling its basic requirement of govt, which is to ensure public safety and justice.

Queue the clowns - 'BuT It IsN't aS BaD AS 90s!!!!'

Lawdy how bad are these 2023 stats going to be by year's end?

Those are comparisons of year-to-date 2022 vs. year-to-date 2023.

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Violent crime is up by 34% YTD, property crime 28%, and all crime 29%.

Burglary is down 7%, theft from auto is unchanged, assault with a dangerous weapon is 6%, and as much as you want to make this specifically about DC, it's not. The whole thing about national trends is that they are national.

Also apparently a national trend, among authoritarians, unfortunately: a desire to take self-representation, self-determination, and self-governance away from people who don't vote Republican.

Why is crime so much lower in PG county, which has 50% more people than DC?

Because unlike DC, the black politicians and voters in PG don't need to placate rich white progressives with soft on crime measures. PG county has curfews and actually puts criminals in prison. Why do you think the PG criminals tend to appear in crime articles or arrest reports in DC/MoCo/Fairfax?

Bingo. PG County residents remember the crime wave of the 1980s/1990s and want nothing to do with that again. We don't tolerate racist cops shooting our kids, but we definitely aren't into crazy wokes who want to defund our police and decriminalize everything.

Who's we? The 10 people who live in Prince George's County and watch so much Fox News that they believe "the wokes" is language normal people use?

No, the 600,000+ African Americans who live in my county that overwhelmingly vote Democrat.

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https://mpdc.dc.gov/page/district-crime-data-glance


The year is only a little half over, yet crime stats are blowing 2022 out of the water. The number of robberies and carjackings is truly absurd. I guess this is the progress the voters wanted and the outcome of restorative justice. DC, where you can do whatever you want and there are no consequences for anything. Congress needs to step in at this point, because it is clear the DC govt is incapable of fulfilling its basic requirement of govt, which is to ensure public safety and justice.

Queue the clowns - 'BuT It IsN't aS BaD AS 90s!!!!'

Lawdy how bad are these 2023 stats going to be by year's end?

Those are comparisons of year-to-date 2022 vs. year-to-date 2023.

and?

Violent crime is up by 34% YTD, property crime 28%, and all crime 29%.

Burglary is down 7%, theft from auto is unchanged, assault with a dangerous weapon is 6%, and as much as you want to make this specifically about DC, it's not. The whole thing about national trends is that they are national.

Also apparently a national trend, among authoritarians, unfortunately: a desire to take self-representation, self-determination, and self-governance away from people who don't vote Republican.

Why is crime so much lower in PG county, which has 50% more people than DC?

Because the poverty rate in Prince George's County is much lower. That seems obvious.

According to US Census data, the number of people in poverty in Prince George's County (11.5% of 967,194, or 111,227 people) is almost exactly the same as the number of people in poverty in DC (16.5% of 671,803, or 110,847 people).

I just want to get this straight: you are arguing that a 5% difference in poverty rate is what's leading to 7x more murders, 2.5x more instances of sex abuse, and 6x more robberies?

No, I am saying that DC and Prince George's County have exactly the same numbers of very poor people. People often have trouble understanding rates, which are fractions. Math can be hard.

Is 11.5% really "much lower" than 16.5%? Why are the crime numbers (raw numbers, not crime rates) so much higher in DC than PG despite them having "exactly the same numbers of very poor people"?

It's not like this poverty rate dramatically changed in the past 3 years.

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https://mpdc.dc.gov/page/district-crime-data-glance


The year is only a little half over, yet crime stats are blowing 2022 out of the water. The number of robberies and carjackings is truly absurd. I guess this is the progress the voters wanted and the outcome of restorative justice. DC, where you can do whatever you want and there are no consequences for anything. Congress needs to step in at this point, because it is clear the DC govt is incapable of fulfilling its basic requirement of govt, which is to ensure public safety and justice.

Queue the clowns - 'BuT It IsN't aS BaD AS 90s!!!!'

Lawdy how bad are these 2023 stats going to be by year's end?

Those are comparisons of year-to-date 2022 vs. year-to-date 2023.

and?

Violent crime is up by 34% YTD, property crime 28%, and all crime 29%.

Burglary is down 7%, theft from auto is unchanged, assault with a dangerous weapon is 6%, and as much as you want to make this specifically about DC, it's not. The whole thing about national trends is that they are national.

Also apparently a national trend, among authoritarians, unfortunately: a desire to take self-representation, self-determination, and self-governance away from people who don't vote Republican.

Why is crime so much lower in PG county, which has 50% more people than DC?

Because unlike DC, the black politicians and voters in PG don't need to placate rich white progressives with soft on crime measures. PG county has curfews and actually puts criminals in prison. Why do you think the PG criminals tend to appear in crime articles or arrest reports in DC/MoCo/Fairfax?

Yup! I've been impressed by the PG County Exec's stance on crime and public safety way more than anything I've heard from Marc Elrich.

+1 DC and MoCo politicians are weird.

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https://mpdc.dc.gov/page/district-crime-data-glance


The year is only a little half over, yet crime stats are blowing 2022 out of the water. The number of robberies and carjackings is truly absurd. I guess this is the progress the voters wanted and the outcome of restorative justice. DC, where you can do whatever you want and there are no consequences for anything. Congress needs to step in at this point, because it is clear the DC govt is incapable of fulfilling its basic requirement of govt, which is to ensure public safety and justice.

Queue the clowns - 'BuT It IsN't aS BaD AS 90s!!!!'

Lawdy how bad are these 2023 stats going to be by year's end?

Those are comparisons of year-to-date 2022 vs. year-to-date 2023.

and?

Violent crime is up by 34% YTD, property crime 28%, and all crime 29%.

Burglary is down 7%, theft from auto is unchanged, assault with a dangerous weapon is 6%, and as much as you want to make this specifically about DC, it's not. The whole thing about national trends is that they are national.

Also apparently a national trend, among authoritarians, unfortunately: a desire to take self-representation, self-determination, and self-governance away from people who don't vote Republican.

Why is crime so much lower in PG county, which has 50% more people than DC?

Because unlike DC, the black politicians and voters in PG don't need to placate rich white progressives with soft on crime measures. PG county has curfews and actually puts criminals in prison. Why do you think the PG criminals tend to appear in crime articles or arrest reports in DC/MoCo/Fairfax?

Bingo. PG County residents remember the crime wave of the 1980s/1990s and want nothing to do with that again. We don't tolerate racist cops shooting our kids, but we definitely aren't into crazy wokes who want to defund our police and decriminalize everything.

Who's we? The 10 people who live in Prince George's County and watch so much Fox News that they believe "the wokes" is language normal people use?

Dumb take. Violent crime is usually committed by the same people over and over again. PG chooses to prosecute. DC does not. The DC police commissioner said recently that the average murder suspect has 11 felonies and yet they still walk free. DC prosecutors decline to pursue charges in 67 percent of all arrests

Of course crime is a problem in DC when there are no consequences to anything.

PG is choosing something different. They arrest and prosecute violent people. Good for them

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https://mpdc.dc.gov/page/district-crime-data-glance


The year is only a little half over, yet crime stats are blowing 2022 out of the water. The number of robberies and carjackings is truly absurd. I guess this is the progress the voters wanted and the outcome of restorative justice. DC, where you can do whatever you want and there are no consequences for anything. Congress needs to step in at this point, because it is clear the DC govt is incapable of fulfilling its basic requirement of govt, which is to ensure public safety and justice.

Queue the clowns - 'BuT It IsN't aS BaD AS 90s!!!!'

Lawdy how bad are these 2023 stats going to be by year's end?

Those are comparisons of year-to-date 2022 vs. year-to-date 2023.

and?

Violent crime is up by 34% YTD, property crime 28%, and all crime 29%.

Burglary is down 7%, theft from auto is unchanged, assault with a dangerous weapon is 6%, and as much as you want to make this specifically about DC, it's not. The whole thing about national trends is that they are national.

Also apparently a national trend, among authoritarians, unfortunately: a desire to take self-representation, self-determination, and self-governance away from people who don't vote Republican.

Why is crime so much lower in PG county, which has 50% more people than DC?

Because the poverty rate in Prince George's County is much lower. That seems obvious.

According to US Census data, the number of people in poverty in Prince George's County (11.5% of 967,194, or 111,227 people) is almost exactly the same as the number of people in poverty in DC (16.5% of 671,803, or 110,847 people).

I just want to get this straight: you are arguing that a 5% difference in poverty rate is what's leading to 7x more murders, 2.5x more instances of sex abuse, and 6x more robberies?

No, I am saying that DC and Prince George's County have exactly the same numbers of very poor people. People often have trouble understanding rates, which are fractions. Math can be hard.

But you made the exact opposite point in the first sentence of your post. English comprehension can be hard.

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Anonymous wrote:Whoa! These numbers are WAY above PG County!

https://www.princegeorgescountymd.gov/4497/Annual-Offenses-by-Division-DCR

For 2023:

Homicides in DC is 130
Homicides in PG is 18

Sex Abuse in DC is 85
Sex Abuse in PG is 34

Robbery in DC is 1,699
Robbery in PG is 280

Interesting. Montgomery County has had 19 homicides so far, and a shooting today down near Progress Place. We are beating PG.

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Anonymous wrote:Whoa! These numbers are WAY above PG County!

https://www.princegeorgescountymd.gov/4497/Annual-Offenses-by-Division-DCR

For 2023:

Homicides in DC is 130
Homicides in PG is 18

Sex Abuse in DC is 85
Sex Abuse in PG is 34

Robbery in DC is 1,699
Robbery in PG is 280

Interesting. Montgomery County has had 19 homicides so far, and a shooting today down near Progress Place. We are beating PG.

Angela Alsabrooks flirted with the anti police activists for like a month, but then distanced herself from them. I think she could do that because she’s black. White politicos couldn’t.

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https://mpdc.dc.gov/page/district-crime-data-glance


The year is only a little half over, yet crime stats are blowing 2022 out of the water. The number of robberies and carjackings is truly absurd. I guess this is the progress the voters wanted and the outcome of restorative justice. DC, where you can do whatever you want and there are no consequences for anything. Congress needs to step in at this point, because it is clear the DC govt is incapable of fulfilling its basic requirement of govt, which is to ensure public safety and justice.

Queue the clowns - 'BuT It IsN't aS BaD AS 90s!!!!'

Lawdy how bad are these 2023 stats going to be by year's end?

Those are comparisons of year-to-date 2022 vs. year-to-date 2023.

and?

Violent crime is up by 34% YTD, property crime 28%, and all crime 29%.

Burglary is down 7%, theft from auto is unchanged, assault with a dangerous weapon is 6%, and as much as you want to make this specifically about DC, it's not. The whole thing about national trends is that they are national.

Also apparently a national trend, among authoritarians, unfortunately: a desire to take self-representation, self-determination, and self-governance away from people who don't vote Republican.

Why is crime so much lower in PG county, which has 50% more people than DC?

Because unlike DC, the black politicians and voters in PG don't need to placate rich white progressives with soft on crime measures. PG county has curfews and actually puts criminals in prison. Why do you think the PG criminals tend to appear in crime articles or arrest reports in DC/MoCo/Fairfax?

Bingo. PG County residents remember the crime wave of the 1980s/1990s and want nothing to do with that again. We don't tolerate racist cops shooting our kids, but we definitely aren't into crazy wokes who want to defund our police and decriminalize everything.

Who's we? The 10 people who live in Prince George's County and watch so much Fox News that they believe "the wokes" is language normal people use?

Dumb take. Violent crime is usually committed by the same people over and over again. PG chooses to prosecute. DC does not. The DC police commissioner said recently that the average murder suspect has 11 felonies and yet they still walk free. DC prosecutors decline to pursue charges in 67 percent of all arrests

Of course crime is a problem in DC when there are no consequences to anything.

PG is choosing something different. They arrest and prosecute violent people. Good for them

There’s been a false dichotomy. Either let criminals roam free or armed racist cops and let ‘‘em target black kids. PG seems to have found a middle ground - good policing.

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Anonymous wrote:Crime's up all over the country.

Crime is decreasing in nearly every major city except for DC.

https://twitter.com/FeverPotomac/status/1675639516214771713?t=0a3zvXc__eI0QoLu6AjKrA&s=19

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I feel safer along route 1 that Georgia ave

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https://mpdc.dc.gov/page/district-crime-data-glance


The year is only a little half over, yet crime stats are blowing 2022 out of the water. The number of robberies and carjackings is truly absurd. I guess this is the progress the voters wanted and the outcome of restorative justice. DC, where you can do whatever you want and there are no consequences for anything. Congress needs to step in at this point, because it is clear the DC govt is incapable of fulfilling its basic requirement of govt, which is to ensure public safety and justice.

Queue the clowns - 'BuT It IsN't aS BaD AS 90s!!!!'

Lawdy how bad are these 2023 stats going to be by year's end?

Those are comparisons of year-to-date 2022 vs. year-to-date 2023.

and?

Violent crime is up by 34% YTD, property crime 28%, and all crime 29%.

Burglary is down 7%, theft from auto is unchanged, assault with a dangerous weapon is 6%, and as much as you want to make this specifically about DC, it's not. The whole thing about national trends is that they are national.

Also apparently a national trend, among authoritarians, unfortunately: a desire to take self-representation, self-determination, and self-governance away from people who don't vote Republican.

Why is crime so much lower in PG county, which has 50% more people than DC?

Because unlike DC, the black politicians and voters in PG don't need to placate rich white progressives with soft on crime measures. PG county has curfews and actually puts criminals in prison. Why do you think the PG criminals tend to appear in crime articles or arrest reports in DC/MoCo/Fairfax?

Spot on. I consider myself a moderate Democrat and I agree with the approach to crime taken by the PG county politicians. I would take Alsobrooks and Braveboy over Bowser, the crazy progressives on the DC Council, and AG Schwalb every time.

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Didn’t burglary get re-defined so now it’s not burglary unless the homeowner is actually home at the time?

[Anonymous]

Martial law, send in the Marines to go door by door to arrest everyone

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https://mpdc.dc.gov/page/district-crime-data-glance


The year is only a little half over, yet crime stats are blowing 2022 out of the water. The number of robberies and carjackings is truly absurd. I guess this is the progress the voters wanted and the outcome of restorative justice. DC, where you can do whatever you want and there are no consequences for anything. Congress needs to step in at this point, because it is clear the DC govt is incapable of fulfilling its basic requirement of govt, which is to ensure public safety and justice.

Queue the clowns - 'BuT It IsN't aS BaD AS 90s!!!!'

Lawdy how bad are these 2023 stats going to be by year's end?

Those are comparisons of year-to-date 2022 vs. year-to-date 2023.

and?

Violent crime is up by 34% YTD, property crime 28%, and all crime 29%.

Burglary is down 7%, theft from auto is unchanged, assault with a dangerous weapon is 6%, and as much as you want to make this specifically about DC, it's not. The whole thing about national trends is that they are national.

Also apparently a national trend, among authoritarians, unfortunately: a desire to take self-representation, self-determination, and self-governance away from people who don't vote Republican.

We’re too stupid as a whole to be entrusted with self governance

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Anonymous wrote:Martial law, send in the Marines to go door by door to arrest everyone

Or just do what PG has done... seems to be working based on the stats.