San Francisco is imploding

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:R.I.P. SF and other blue urban centers.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-12/working-from-home-office-landlords-risk-800-billion-in-losses-mckinsey-says#xj4y7vzkg


A decline in commercial RE is going to obliterate the finances of blue run cities like SF. Decreased value means huge shortfalls in tax revenue. They’ll try to plug the difference with increases in income taxes…..which will just cause more people to flee. SF is already in this death spiral and has huge budget deficits now. It’s only going to get worse, and all they ever do is come up with more looney ideas on how to tax and spend more. Unfortunately someone has gotta pickup the tab.


Or modestly raise residential property taxes because the residential market is doing just fine. But carry on with your "concern trolling". Of course, blue states and cities are already picking up the tab for most of the red states (i.e., putting in more Federal revenues than receiving). But you knew that, amirite?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I feel for this guy. What a nightmare SF has become.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/i-lost-my-temper-san-francisco-has-lost-its-mind-collier-gwin-police-crime-50d9bacf


It’s behind a paywall. Basically an owner of a store and neighboring stores in SF calls social services hotline 50 times over 25 days to report a mentally ill woman. But when social workers or police showed up they said they couldn’t move her or do anything.

A tpolice report of the incident, local merchants described her as “severely mentally ill” and noted that she often “steals food from restaurants, defecates openly in front of their businesses, performs sex acts upon herself publicly, screams at merchants and passersby and spits on people when they get close to her.’’

So the business owner who was trying to clean in front of his store with a hose reached his breaking point and sprayed her with water to get her to move.

He was the one arrested, booked and ordered to do community service.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I feel for this guy. What a nightmare SF has become.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/i-lost-my-temper-san-francisco-has-lost-its-mind-collier-gwin-police-crime-50d9bacf


It’s behind a paywall. Basically an owner of a store and neighboring stores in SF calls social services hotline 50 times over 25 days to report a mentally ill woman. But when social workers or police showed up they said they couldn’t move her or do anything.

A tpolice report of the incident, local merchants described her as “severely mentally ill” and noted that she often “steals food from restaurants, defecates openly in front of their businesses, performs sex acts upon herself publicly, screams at merchants and passersby and spits on people when they get close to her.’’

So the business owner who was trying to clean in front of his store with a hose reached his breaking point and sprayed her with water to get her to move.

He was the one arrested, booked and ordered to do community service.

Sounds like our government is hunting down good people, and throwing them in prison.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I was told by the head of a DC homeless shelter where I volunteered, that something like 95% of the homeless are mentally ill.

A friend's father is homeless. She grew up in an upper middle class home in Westchester. Her father had some mental break and left the family. She and her siblings have been trying for years to get him housed and with a job, but no matter what they do, he abandons the apartment and job and ends up back on the street. They are at a loss.

My point is that a lot of this is mental health and we need huge resources to fix it.
To those who say lock up all the homeless and the addicts, then what? The police could round up everyone on the streets of SF and then the court and jail systems are overrun and most will be let out on bail or technicalities anyway. Prison is no place for the mentally ill. And addicts need their own treatment.
It's about so much more than finding homes.


When someone is so mentally ill that he won't take the treatment offered, then require longterm hospitalization or supervised group home care.


Something like assisted-living but with more restricted movement in/out of the facility is needed for their protection and for the protection of the public at-large.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I feel for this guy. What a nightmare SF has become.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/i-lost-my-temper-san-francisco-has-lost-its-mind-collier-gwin-police-crime-50d9bacf


It’s behind a paywall. Basically an owner of a store and neighboring stores in SF calls social services hotline 50 times over 25 days to report a mentally ill woman. But when social workers or police showed up they said they couldn’t move her or do anything.

A tpolice report of the incident, local merchants described her as “severely mentally ill” and noted that she often “steals food from restaurants, defecates openly in front of their businesses, performs sex acts upon herself publicly, screams at merchants and passersby and spits on people when they get close to her.’’

So the business owner who was trying to clean in front of his store with a hose reached his breaking point and sprayed her with water to get her to move.

He was the one arrested, booked and ordered to do community service.


This is just pathetic. Absolutely ridiculous.
He cannot get any help from the city, and when he tries to deal with the issue since the city won't, he gets arrested.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I feel for this guy. What a nightmare SF has become.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/i-lost-my-temper-san-francisco-has-lost-its-mind-collier-gwin-police-crime-50d9bacf


It’s behind a paywall. Basically an owner of a store and neighboring stores in SF calls social services hotline 50 times over 25 days to report a mentally ill woman. But when social workers or police showed up they said they couldn’t move her or do anything.

A tpolice report of the incident, local merchants described her as “severely mentally ill” and noted that she often “steals food from restaurants, defecates openly in front of their businesses, performs sex acts upon herself publicly, screams at merchants and passersby and spits on people when they get close to her.’’

So the business owner who was trying to clean in front of his store with a hose reached his breaking point and sprayed her with water to get her to move.

He was the one arrested, booked and ordered to do community service.


PP here - thank you for summarizing. I meant to come back and do it myself! Poor guy. Just incredible. SF is such a dumpster fire.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I feel for this guy. What a nightmare SF has become.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/i-lost-my-temper-san-francisco-has-lost-its-mind-collier-gwin-police-crime-50d9bacf


It’s behind a paywall. Basically an owner of a store and neighboring stores in SF calls social services hotline 50 times over 25 days to report a mentally ill woman. But when social workers or police showed up they said they couldn’t move her or do anything.

A tpolice report of the incident, local merchants described her as “severely mentally ill” and noted that she often “steals food from restaurants, defecates openly in front of their businesses, performs sex acts upon herself publicly, screams at merchants and passersby and spits on people when they get close to her.’’

So the business owner who was trying to clean in front of his store with a hose reached his breaking point and sprayed her with water to get her to move.

He was the one arrested, booked and ordered to do community service.


This is just pathetic. Absolutely ridiculous.
He cannot get any help from the city, and when he tries to deal with the issue since the city won't, he gets arrested.


Exactly. I would have reached my breaking point long before he did.
Anonymous
Anonymous
Progressive politicians, judges and DAs have clearly been a disaster for San Francisco.

But it's not like republicans are offering anything better. Corruption and abortion bans is all they've got.

It's clear though that progressives need to be voted out. Philadelphia recently elected a democrat mayor who ran on a tough on crime platform. Hopefully, democrats take notice and start running better candidates.

San Francisco is a great city. It's such a shame what's happened.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I feel for this guy. What a nightmare SF has become.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/i-lost-my-temper-san-francisco-has-lost-its-mind-collier-gwin-police-crime-50d9bacf


It’s behind a paywall. Basically an owner of a store and neighboring stores in SF calls social services hotline 50 times over 25 days to report a mentally ill woman. But when social workers or police showed up they said they couldn’t move her or do anything.

A tpolice report of the incident, local merchants described her as “severely mentally ill” and noted that she often “steals food from restaurants, defecates openly in front of their businesses, performs sex acts upon herself publicly, screams at merchants and passersby and spits on people when they get close to her.’’

So the business owner who was trying to clean in front of his store with a hose reached his breaking point and sprayed her with water to get her to move.

He was the one arrested, booked and ordered to do community service.


This is just pathetic. Absolutely ridiculous.
He cannot get any help from the city, and when he tries to deal with the issue since the city won't, he gets arrested.



Everyone overhauled their laws dealing with the mentally ill years ago when Geraldo Rivera did his exposé on mental hospitals.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I feel for this guy. What a nightmare SF has become.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/i-lost-my-temper-san-francisco-has-lost-its-mind-collier-gwin-police-crime-50d9bacf


It’s behind a paywall. Basically an owner of a store and neighboring stores in SF calls social services hotline 50 times over 25 days to report a mentally ill woman. But when social workers or police showed up they said they couldn’t move her or do anything.

A tpolice report of the incident, local merchants described her as “severely mentally ill” and noted that she often “steals food from restaurants, defecates openly in front of their businesses, performs sex acts upon herself publicly, screams at merchants and passersby and spits on people when they get close to her.’’

So the business owner who was trying to clean in front of his store with a hose reached his breaking point and sprayed her with water to get her to move.

He was the one arrested, booked and ordered to do community service.


This is just pathetic. Absolutely ridiculous.
He cannot get any help from the city, and when he tries to deal with the issue since the city won't, he gets arrested.


in what is pathetic and ridiculous I would add the fact that a person who is severely mentally ill and unable to take even basic care of herself is left on the street to fend for herself until the day she is stabbed by another desperate or hurts somebody else and then is locked up. the mentally ill lady needs serious help and if she got it the problem for everybody else would be solved and she would be better too. this is not a matter of tough on crime, this is a matter of mental health services for seriously ill people
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Progressive politicians, judges and DAs have clearly been a disaster for San Francisco.

But it's not like republicans are offering anything better. Corruption and abortion bans is all they've got.

It's clear though that progressives need to be voted out. Philadelphia recently elected a democrat mayor who ran on a tough on crime platform. Hopefully, democrats take notice and start running better candidates.

San Francisco is a great city. It's such a shame what's happened.


Thank you for your honesty. Despite all of this, SF is still a great city. More people would still prefer to live there than your middle of nowhere republican run city.
You can trash liberals as much as you want, but you can't ignore the fact that the richest states and richest cities in the US are run by liberals.
Anonymous
Meanwhile in nearby Oakland.......

"Failed leadership, including the movement to defund the police, our DA's unwillingness to charge and prosecute people who commit murder and...serious crimes, proliferation of anti-police rhetoric have created a heyday for Oakland criminals."

Anonymous
I'd just like to point out that San Francisco did not "defund the police".

https://www.sfweekly.com/archives/is-san-francisco-re-funding-the-police/article_f7f50019-0eaf-51b0-bc84-585a8889e77a.html
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