San Francisco is imploding

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel for this guy. What a nightmare SF has become.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/i-lost-my-temper-san-francisco-has-lost-its-mind-collier-gwin-police-crime-50d9bacf

It’s behind a paywall. Basically an owner of a store and neighboring stores in SF calls social services hotline 50 times over 25 days to report a mentally ill woman. But when social workers or police showed up they said they couldn’t move her or do anything.

A tpolice report of the incident, local merchants described her as “severely mentally ill” and noted that she often “steals food from restaurants, defecates openly in front of their businesses, performs sex acts upon herself publicly, screams at merchants and passersby and spits on people when they get close to her.’’

So the business owner who was trying to clean in front of his store with a hose reached his breaking point and sprayed her with water to get her to move.

He was the one arrested, booked and ordered to do community service.

This is just pathetic. Absolutely ridiculous.
He cannot get any help from the city, and when he tries to deal with the issue since the city won't, he gets arrested.

This is not a city of sf thing. This is is a how we deal with mentally ill thing and exists everywhere. You can't just lock up mentally ill people forever. They still have rights. And somwhere the decision as made to not warehouse these people against their will as it used to be done. And while you can argue that the current state is untenable, there is no immediate solution to the problem.

And again, this is not a SF issue alone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'd just like to point out that San Francisco did not "defund the police".

https://www.sfweekly.com/archives/is-san-francisco-re-funding-the-police/article_f7f50019-0eaf-51b0-bc84-585a8889e77a.html

No one did. That's just another MAGA untruth.

[Anonymous]

Snort. Real estate prices are through the roof. People are dying to live in SF, definitely more than they want to live in our DMV area

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel for this guy. What a nightmare SF has become.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/i-lost-my-temper-san-francisco-has-lost-its-mind-collier-gwin-police-crime-50d9bacf

It’s behind a paywall. Basically an owner of a store and neighboring stores in SF calls social services hotline 50 times over 25 days to report a mentally ill woman. But when social workers or police showed up they said they couldn’t move her or do anything.

A tpolice report of the incident, local merchants described her as “severely mentally ill” and noted that she often “steals food from restaurants, defecates openly in front of their businesses, performs sex acts upon herself publicly, screams at merchants and passersby and spits on people when they get close to her.’’

So the business owner who was trying to clean in front of his store with a hose reached his breaking point and sprayed her with water to get her to move.

He was the one arrested, booked and ordered to do community service.

This is just pathetic. Absolutely ridiculous.
He cannot get any help from the city, and when he tries to deal with the issue since the city won't, he gets arrested.

This is not a city of sf thing. This is is a how we deal with mentally ill thing and exists everywhere. You can't just lock up mentally ill people forever. They still have rights. And somwhere the decision as made to not warehouse these people against their will as it used to be done. And while you can argue that the current state is untenable, there is no immediate solution to the problem.

And again, this is not a SF issue alone.

Yes, we can institutionalize mentally ill people for the entirety of their lives and should do so when they show that they could harm others. It's very sad that anyone is mentally ill, but it is alsono right to let them bring hatm to others

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:R.I.P. SF and other blue urban centers.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-12/working-from-home-office-landlords-risk-800-billion-in-losses-mckinsey-says#xj4y7vzkg


A decline in commercial RE is going to obliterate the finances of blue run cities like SF. Decreased value means huge shortfalls in tax revenue. They’ll try to plug the difference with increases in income taxes…..which will just cause more people to flee. SF is already in this death spiral and has huge budget deficits now. It’s only going to get worse, and all they ever do is come up with more looney ideas on how to tax and spend more. Unfortunately someone has gotta pickup the tab.

Or modestly raise residential property taxes because the residential market is doing just fine. But carry on with your "concern trolling". Of course, blue states and cities are already picking up the tab for most of the red states (i.e., putting in more Federal revenues than receiving). But you knew that, amirite?

Modestly? Yep, once again go after hardworking middle class workers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I used to live in SF…it was like Heaven:great food, safe, moderate weather, amazing scenery. Then Leftism takes over, & insanity prevails.

Low crime because every infraction is now de facto legal.

The guy who claimed all homeless need is a roof over their head & they will automatically become Ward Cleaver has the mind of a 6th grade girl.

Don’t like having to absorb other people’s problems? Now you know what Texas border goes through.

Homelessness is a housing issue. All of the tech companies drove prices so high people have no where to go. Also, people forget about the 9th Circuit Court decision. The Court ordered that cities and towns cannot force homeless people off the street.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I used to live in SF…it was like Heaven:great food, safe, moderate weather, amazing scenery. Then Leftism takes over, & insanity prevails.

Low crime because every infraction is now de facto legal.

The guy who claimed all homeless need is a roof over their head & they will automatically become Ward Cleaver has the mind of a 6th grade girl.

Don’t like having to absorb other people’s problems? Now you know what Texas border goes through.

Homelessness is a housing issue. All of the tech companies drove prices so high people have no where to go. Also, people forget about the 9th Circuit Court decision. The Court ordered that cities and towns cannot force homeless people off the street.

No, it is not just a housing issue. Not even close.

[Anonymous]

This problem started back when Reagan decided to get people out of mental institutions. They all went to the streets. I remember it well as I was starting a career in Chicago. Most Americans had never heard the word "homeless" before that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mental_Health_Systems_Act_of_1980

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
This problem started back when Reagan decided to get people out of mental institutions. They all went to the streets. I remember it well as I was starting a career in Chicago. Most Americans had never heard the word "homeless" before that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mental_Health_Systems_Act_of_1980

He didn't do that all by himself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'd just like to point out that San Francisco did not "defund the police".

https://www.sfweekly.com/archives/is-san-francisco-re-funding-the-police/article_f7f50019-0eaf-51b0-bc84-585a8889e77a.html

No one did. That's just another MAGA untruth.

Yeah, they did. Then they reversed it when things went downhill.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/san-francisco-defunded-police-reversing-course-next-year-calls-accountability

From coast to coast in 2020, liberal politicians pledged support for defunding police departments following the murder of George Floyd in Minneapolis. San Francisco Mayor London Breed was among the politicians in major cities that joined the chorus of leaders diverting funds from police that summer, only to reverse course the following year.

"We will redirect $120 million from law enforcement to support these priorities over the next two years," Breed said in her announcement on July 31, 2020. "Let me repeat that. This is $120 million."

The plan redirected $120 million in funds from both the police and sheriff’s departments in the city over two years to fund initiatives for Black Americans in the Golden City. The San Francisco Chronicle reported at the time that the reallocation of funds was intended to be "a gesture of reparations for decades of city policymaking that have created or exacerbated deep inequities for San Francisco’s African American residents."

Breed was far from alone in making moves to defund police. Political leaders stretching from the U.S. House of Representatives, such as Rep. Ilhan Omar, to local city leaders supported calls from activists demanding that funds allocated to police departments be divested to public safety initiatives, such as mental health and youth services.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Snort. Real estate prices are through the roof. People are dying to live in SF, definitely more than they want to live in our DMV area

Literally.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I used to live in SF…it was like Heaven:great food, safe, moderate weather, amazing scenery. Then Leftism takes over, & insanity prevails.

Low crime because every infraction is now de facto legal.

The guy who claimed all homeless need is a roof over their head & they will automatically become Ward Cleaver has the mind of a 6th grade girl.

Don’t like having to absorb other people’s problems? Now you know what Texas border goes through.

Homelessness is a housing issue. All of the tech companies drove prices so high people have no where to go. Also, people forget about the 9th Circuit Court decision. The Court ordered that cities and towns cannot force homeless people off the street.

It is not a housing issue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel for this guy. What a nightmare SF has become.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/i-lost-my-temper-san-francisco-has-lost-its-mind-collier-gwin-police-crime-50d9bacf

It’s behind a paywall. Basically an owner of a store and neighboring stores in SF calls social services hotline 50 times over 25 days to report a mentally ill woman. But when social workers or police showed up they said they couldn’t move her or do anything.

A tpolice report of the incident, local merchants described her as “severely mentally ill” and noted that she often “steals food from restaurants, defecates openly in front of their businesses, performs sex acts upon herself publicly, screams at merchants and passersby and spits on people when they get close to her.’’

So the business owner who was trying to clean in front of his store with a hose reached his breaking point and sprayed her with water to get her to move.

He was the one arrested, booked and ordered to do community service.

This is just pathetic. Absolutely ridiculous.
He cannot get any help from the city, and when he tries to deal with the issue since the city won't, he gets arrested.

This is not a city of sf thing. This is is a how we deal with mentally ill thing and exists everywhere. You can't just lock up mentally ill people forever. They still have rights. And somwhere the decision as made to not warehouse these people against their will as it used to be done. And while you can argue that the current state is untenable, there is no immediate solution to the problem.

And again, this is not a SF issue alone.

If she was defecating on the sidewalk, and masturbating in a public area, those are cause for arrests for indecency.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
This problem started back when Reagan decided to get people out of mental institutions. They all went to the streets. I remember it well as I was starting a career in Chicago. Most Americans had never heard the word "homeless" before that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mental_Health_Systems_Act_of_1980

Back when all the esteemed psychiatrists advised us that these people would be fine because of medications and should live freely. Very sadly, their lives would be much better if they were taken care of through required long-term hospitalization or group homes, rather than living on the streets.

[Anonymous]

If people never heard of “homelessness” before that it’s because they used different words for it.