3 children dead in private Christian elementary school shooting in TN

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Christmas Card sent out by the congressman who represents Nashville, TN, Rep. Andy Ogles (https://ogles.house.gov/), who is of course a republican.



This says it all right here. And we aren't even into April and assault weapons mass shooting season yet this year.

In shock that anyone would send out a family
Christmas card with everyone smiling as young and old proudly hold lethal assault weapons / this represents desecration of the Christian celebration of the birth of Christ …

This is so sick

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Anonymous wrote:NBC News identified the shooter as Audrey Hale.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/nashville-christian-school-shooter-appears-former-student-police-chief-rcna76876

A 28 year old WOMAN?

You won't hear a word about this pretty soon....

Yeah, we absolutely will, and we should. But they are saying she was a former students of the school, and identifies as transgender. She definitely doesn't fit the profile of a school shooter.

7 deaths now - 3 students, 2 adults and the shooter.

You’re right. Republicans will take the opportunity to further ratchet up the hateful rhetoric on people instead of addressing the gun problem.

Bingo! Anything to distract from the actual problem: too many guns, easy access too guns, ease of obtaining semi-automatic rifles.

They’re frantically looking for something to blame besides guns. It’s pathetic!

[Anonymous]

Gun laws in Tennessee:

NO state permit required to purchase
NO firearm registration
NO owner license required
NO permit required for concealed carry
NO permit required for open carry
NO background checks for private sales

And the state can preempt local laws.

MAGA!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The Christmas Card sent out by the congressman who represents Nashville, TN, Rep. Andy Ogles (https://ogles.house.gov/), who is of course a republican.



This says it all right here. And we aren't even into April and assault weapons mass shooting season yet this year.

In shock that anyone would send out a family
Christmas card with everyone smiling as young and old proudly hold lethal assault weapons / this represents desecration of the Christian celebration of the birth of Christ …

This is so sick

Shock? Really?

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At some point I wish the shooter would survive, at least long enough for someone can ask WHY.

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I'm calling it now that Republican sponsor a bill banning the ability for transgender people to ever purchase weapons. Then they will tell that is being so hard on guns and the woke liberals.

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Anonymous wrote:So was she male and now female? Then MTG is way off base

Other way around, I think.

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Anonymous wrote:Funny how these shootings are always on the political forum and not the health forum if it truly is a mental health issue.
Let's at least be honest that this is a politics issue that very clearly divides the two parties. And it seems like all of the parents out there voting for Republicans are just signing their children's death warrants. And are okay with it.

None of this is funny. Some problems have more than one cause - a concept that's difficult for some to understand. It's a mental health issue, it's a lack of gun control issue, it's the fact that a lay person has the ability to buy an assault weapon, it's an issue of not sufficient security in our schools, it's an issue of red flags being ignored or minimized. By the way, people with mental illness are more likely to be victim of violence than commit an act of violence. I guess moving this discussion from the political forum to the health forum will solve the problem.

PP, you forgot to include the last clause in PP's opening sentence: if it truly is a mental health issue. The PP didn't set it up as a binary, but to point out that Republicans often hide behind the mental health fig leaf (given that they refuse to fund those services, etc).

Republicans: "It's a mental health issue"

Me: "FINE then let's ADDRESS IT by providing robust access to desperately needed mental health services in this country since many Americans can't get the help they need, along with finding ways to address mental health for those who need it but aren't seeking it out, along with ensuring we have mental health screenings for prospective gun owners."

Republicans: *crickets*

*applause*

That's exactly it, PP. I spent my 20s working a lower-income job in a red state and I had pitiful resources for my (extremely severe) mental health needs. Apart from being born with clinical depression and an anxiety disorder, I had rage issues due to a lifetime of school bullying. In other words, I matched the profile of many school shooters. I was often gaslit by the therapists my pitiful insurance partially covered. I felt the pinch for my medication, which often DIDN'T help and I had to stridently advocate for a change in dosage or even the medication prescribed because my doctors did not give two hoots about me.

When my own painstaking research revealed alternative therapies that could help me, neither insurance nor my paycheck could cover the expense. I went without.

I came to the edge of violence and suicide many times. It was my own strong will, and possibly God's Grace, that restrained me from hurting others or myself. But I cannot give ANY credit to the field of psychiatry, or to the very lackluster engagement of the medical community in the conservative state I lived in. They would've let me fall through the cracks. They would've let me become a danger to my community. They did NOT catch me as I fell, or generally give a f**k about me. I did that. I saved myself from harm, and likely countless potential victims.

F**k this country for not investing in the mental health of at-risk individuals. I might be the only person in this thread who understands the anguish and emotional abandonment that this female shooter in Nashville felt, that drove her to do something so harmful.

It could have been motivated by revenge and/or hate.

Like, anti-christian hate crime? Yes, if they felt unaccepted by that Christian group or religion. That could be the motive.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The Christmas Card sent out by the congressman who represents Nashville, TN, Rep. Andy Ogles (https://ogles.house.gov/), who is of course a republican.



This says it all right here. And we aren't even into April and assault weapons mass shooting season yet this year.

In shock that anyone would send out a family
Christmas card with everyone smiling as young and old proudly hold lethal assault weapons / this represents desecration of the Christian celebration of the birth of Christ …

This is so sick

Shock? Really?

Well I have no family in the south or Bible Belt so have never received a card remotely like this. I have received Christmas cards from republican politicians before and nothing like this - just normal family photos.

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Anonymous wrote:So was she male and now female? Then MTG is way off base

Other way around, I think.

Then why do they keep referring to the person as female and she?

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Anonymous wrote:At some point I wish the shooter would survive, at least long enough for someone can ask WHY.

Plenty have. Gabbie Gifford’s shooter survived for example.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:At some point I wish the shooter would survive, at least long enough for someone can ask WHY.

Plenty of shooters have survived.
Parkland shooter survived.
The grocery store shooter
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Plenty have survived. They don’t have the answer.

We have the answer.

The answer is gun control

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Please excuse this question. They say she is a woman. They say she is transgender. So does that mean her chromosomes are XY?

I’m not sure what the truth of it is but I’ve been seeing on trans boards that the shooter is a trans man with he/him pronouns on his social media. I’m reading that the police are using his birth (dead) name and original gender assigned at birth. I guess we will know soon. I know that the only other trans shooter was also an FTM person. I wouldn’t be at all surprised to find out this is right. It’s so weird to me that people are assuming this will be “an XY”. As the local DCUM trans woman, I can tell you that testosterone makes you feel very different than estrogen. No trans woman has ever been a mass shooter. That doesn’t mean it will never happen but it’s a lot less likely, especially if they’re taking estrogen.

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The Rs will do something by banning transgenders now but they still won’t do anything about banning guns

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Anonymous wrote:Please excuse this question. They say she is a woman. They say she is transgender. So does that mean her chromosomes are XY?

I’m not sure what the truth of it is but I’ve been seeing on trans boards that the shooter is a trans man with he/him pronouns on his social media. I’m reading that the police are using his birth (dead) name and original gender assigned at birth. I guess we will know soon. I know that the only other trans shooter was also an FTM person. I wouldn’t be at all surprised to find out this is right. It’s so weird to me that people are assuming this will be “an XY”. As the local DCUM trans woman, I can tell you that testosterone makes you feel very different than estrogen. No trans woman has ever been a mass shooter. That doesn’t mean it will never happen but it’s a lot less likely, especially if they’re taking estrogen.

Yeah. Probably has nothing to do with sex at birth, but what kind of hormones are going through their system.