3 children dead in private Christian elementary school shooting in TN

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please excuse this question. They say she is a woman. They say she is transgender. So does that mean her chromosomes are XY?

I’m not sure what the truth of it is but I’ve been seeing on trans boards that the shooter is a trans man with he/him pronouns on his social media. I’m reading that the police are using his birth (dead) name and original gender assigned at birth. I guess we will know soon. I know that the only other trans shooter was also an FTM person. I wouldn’t be at all surprised to find out this is right. It’s so weird to me that people are assuming this will be “an XY”. As the local DCUM trans woman, I can tell you that testosterone makes you feel very different than estrogen. No trans woman has ever been a mass shooter. That doesn’t mean it will never happen but it’s a lot less likely, especially if they’re taking estrogen.

Thank you. I think we are all confused about this right now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Rs will do something by banning transgenders now but they still won’t do anything about banning guns

They don’t care about kids dying.

[Anonymous]

Does it matter that the shooter was trans? I don’t think it does.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Rs will do something by banning transgenders now but they still won’t do anything about banning guns

Therefore increasing the death by guns rate (i.e. higher suicides). But I think conservatives think suicide by gun doesn't count as gun deaths, am I right? Would a gun supporter care to weigh in?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Rs will do something by banning transgenders now but they still won’t do anything about banning guns

They don’t care about kids dying.

Oh, I'll bet you anything. There will be a bill banning transgender individuals from their owning weapons, despite the fact that they are much more likely to be injured or killed by one and to hurt anyone with one.
Then they will not give us a part of the Democrats and that will be all we hear about for the next election cycle. How Democrats are soft on guns?. 🙄🙄🙄

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does it matter that the shooter was trans? I don’t think it does.

It depends on what they find about the motive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does it matter that the shooter was trans? I don’t think it does.

If the christian school was anti-trans, both would be relevant. There's a manifesto according to police, but I doubt it will ever be released and we will never really know the motive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Vanderbilt Endocrinology will be subject of major lawsuit.

Then so should the gun manufacturer and retail store.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does it matter that the shooter was trans? I don’t think it does.

It matters because the media insists on deadnaming him. Shameful.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Funny how these shootings are always on the political forum and not the health forum if it truly is a mental health issue.
Let's at least be honest that this is a politics issue that very clearly divides the two parties. And it seems like all of the parents out there voting for Republicans are just signing their children's death warrants. And are okay with it.

None of this is funny. Some problems have more than one cause - a concept that's difficult for some to understand. It's a mental health issue, it's a lack of gun control issue, it's the fact that a lay person has the ability to buy an assault weapon, it's an issue of not sufficient security in our schools, it's an issue of red flags being ignored or minimized. By the way, people with mental illness are more likely to be victim of violence than commit an act of violence. I guess moving this discussion from the political forum to the health forum will solve the problem.

PP, you forgot to include the last clause in PP's opening sentence: if it truly is a mental health issue. The PP didn't set it up as a binary, but to point out that Republicans often hide behind the mental health fig leaf (given that they refuse to fund those services, etc).

Republicans: "It's a mental health issue"

Me: "FINE then let's ADDRESS IT by providing robust access to desperately needed mental health services in this country since many Americans can't get the help they need, along with finding ways to address mental health for those who need it but aren't seeking it out, along with ensuring we have mental health screenings for prospective gun owners."

Republicans: *crickets*

*applause*

That's exactly it, PP. I spent my 20s working a lower-income job in a red state and I had pitiful resources for my (extremely severe) mental health needs. Apart from being born with clinical depression and an anxiety disorder, I had rage issues due to a lifetime of school bullying. In other words, I matched the profile of many school shooters. I was often gaslit by the therapists my pitiful insurance partially covered. I felt the pinch for my medication, which often DIDN'T help and I had to stridently advocate for a change in dosage or even the medication prescribed because my doctors did not give two hoots about me.

When my own painstaking research revealed alternative therapies that could help me, neither insurance nor my paycheck could cover the expense. I went without.

I came to the edge of violence and suicide many times. It was my own strong will, and possibly God's Grace, that restrained me from hurting others or myself. But I cannot give ANY credit to the field of psychiatry, or to the very lackluster engagement of the medical community in the conservative state I lived in. They would've let me fall through the cracks. They would've let me become a danger to my community. They did NOT catch me as I fell, or generally give a f**k about me. I did that. I saved myself from harm, and likely countless potential victims.

F**k this country for not investing in the mental health of at-risk individuals. I might be the only person in this thread who understands the anguish and emotional abandonment that this female shooter in Nashville felt, that drove her to do something so harmful.

It could have been motivated by revenge and/or hate.

Or both revenge/hate and mental illness. They're not mutually exclusive.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please excuse this question. They say she is a woman. They say she is transgender. So does that mean her chromosomes are XY?

I’m not sure what the truth of it is but I’ve been seeing on trans boards that the shooter is a trans man with he/him pronouns on his social media. I’m reading that the police are using his birth (dead) name and original gender assigned at birth. I guess we will know soon. I know that the only other trans shooter was also an FTM person. I wouldn’t be at all surprised to find out this is right. It’s so weird to me that people are assuming this will be “an XY”. As the local DCUM trans woman, I can tell you that testosterone makes you feel very different than estrogen. No trans woman has ever been a mass shooter. That doesn’t mean it will never happen but it’s a lot less likely, especially if they’re taking estrogen.

Thank you. I think we are all confused about this right now.

Delete if not allowed. It looks like he may not have cha he’s his legal name but was going informally by Aiden (which is a bit of a stereotypical trans masc name).
https://www.linkedin.com/in/audreyhale10?original_referer=

https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/crime/2023/03/27/nashville-school-shooting-what-we-know-about-28-year-old-female-shooter/70053679007/
Hale was an illustrator and graphic designer who used he/him pronouns, according to a police spokesperson. Police said Hale was transgender and they initially identified him by his birth name and gender.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Rs will do something by banning transgenders now but they still won’t do anything about banning guns

How do you ”ban” a transgender person?

[Anonymous]

I thought prayers at schools were supposed to stop the shootings.

[Anonymous]

I feel so incredibly helpless. I love my country and its citizens. I'm a nurse.

I will never once understand the US obsession with firearms. My opinion only - I think it's psychotic. If I could leave America, I would. I've had it with the sick, sick gun obsession. I'll never understand it and have read every argument for firearms. I'd rather leave you to kill each other with your bullets and "freedom". Disgusting.

[Anonymous]

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jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please excuse this question. They say she is a woman. They say she is transgender. So does that mean her chromosomes are XY?

I’m not sure what the truth of it is but I’ve been seeing on trans boards that the shooter is a trans man with he/him pronouns on his social media. I’m reading that the police are using his birth (dead) name and original gender assigned at birth. I guess we will know soon. I know that the only other trans shooter was also an FTM person. I wouldn’t be at all surprised to find out this is right. It’s so weird to me that people are assuming this will be “an XY”. As the local DCUM trans woman, I can tell you that testosterone makes you feel very different than estrogen. No trans woman has ever been a mass shooter. That doesn’t mean it will never happen but it’s a lot less likely, especially if they’re taking estrogen.

Thank you. I think we are all confused about this right now.

Delete if not allowed. It looks like he may not have cha he’s his legal name but was going informally by Aiden (which is a bit of a stereotypical trans masc name).
https://www.linkedin.com/in/audreyhale10?original_referer=

https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/crime/2023/03/27/nashville-school-shooting-what-we-know-about-28-year-old-female-shooter/70053679007/
Hale was an illustrator and graphic designer who used he/him pronouns, according to a police spokesperson. Police said Hale was transgender and they initially identified him by his birth name and gender.

the linkedin connects to their artwork about The Shining movie with writings all over it like "murder" and "redrum." If you click on 1st graphic image, the art page opens.