Bombshell: NYT story suggests Alito is the leaker of Dobbs decision

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I had a longer answer but the forums went down (for the format switch? Looks good, Jeff!).

It’s pretty clear that the leaker is Alito or one of his agents and it’s offensive that he thinks so little of Americans that he believes we won’t notice it was obviously a right winger (doesn’t stop him from insinuating otherwise!)

It’s like my four year insisting he didn’t eat the piece of chocolate cake despite frosting smeared on his face and fingers.

So not a snark but do want to know why do you think it’s obvious that Alito was the leaker in the Dobbs decision?

Read the second post on this thread.

I did do that but that’s in 2014. I suppose you could say he has loose lips and that he had a reason to (pressuring Judge Roberts to stop getting more judges on his side). Is that the totality of evidence?

You know, if I were you and had more questions, I’d probably have availed myself of the entire NYT article in that same post. That you didn’t give it a glance suggests you are being more than a bit snarky.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I had a longer answer but the forums went down (for the format switch? Looks good, Jeff!).

It’s pretty clear that the leaker is Alito or one of his agents and it’s offensive that he thinks so little of Americans that he believes we won’t notice it was obviously a right winger (doesn’t stop him from insinuating otherwise!)

It’s like my four year insisting he didn’t eat the piece of chocolate cake despite frosting smeared on his face and fingers.

So not a snark but do want to know why do you think it’s obvious that Alito was the leaker in the Dobbs decision?

It is a ridiculous theory.
It was not surprising that following the leak the "conservative" Justices' homes were stalked and loons demonstrated for months. It is probably still occurring. They didn't expect a nutcase to fly across country with the intent of assassinating one of them, but it is not surprising that it happened.
They knew this would be a reaction because the left protests ANY thing they don't like....
So, he leaks a draft so they could be subject to death threats and months of protests?

Nope - this was someone on the left hoping that pressure would cause a change in the decision.
That backfired.

You’re ignoring the fact that: (1) Alito is completely divorced from reality, lives in a Catholic/FedSoc bubble, and likely expected continued deferential treatment despite the monumental nature of what he did and the patently ridiculous and political way in which he did it.

Also, the right wing loves to make themselves martyrs. The hate is how they band together and convince themselves that they are right. They never once self-reflect. All the protesting is just proof to them that they did the right thing.

[Anonymous]

Poor baby! Bad, bad people beating up on poor little nine brethren!
If there is anyone who actually loves this man, they should tell him that he makes a fool of himself every time he speaks. He should just stick to his misogynistic written court decisions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I had a longer answer but the forums went down (for the format switch? Looks good, Jeff!).

It’s pretty clear that the leaker is Alito or one of his agents and it’s offensive that he thinks so little of Americans that he believes we won’t notice it was obviously a right winger (doesn’t stop him from insinuating otherwise!)

It’s like my four year insisting he didn’t eat the piece of chocolate cake despite frosting smeared on his face and fingers.

So not a snark but do want to know why do you think it’s obvious that Alito was the leaker in the Dobbs decision?

It is a ridiculous theory.
It was not surprising that following the leak the "conservative" Justices' homes were stalked and loons demonstrated for months. It is probably still occurring. They didn't expect a nutcase to fly across country with the intent of assassinating one of them, but it is not surprising that it happened.
They knew this would be a reaction because the left protests ANY thing they don't like....
So, he leaks a draft so they could be subject to death threats and months of protests?

Nope - this was someone on the left hoping that pressure would cause a change in the decision.
That backfired.

You’re ignoring the fact that: (1) Alito is completely divorced from reality, lives in a Catholic/FedSoc bubble, and likely expected continued deferential treatment despite the monumental nature of what he did and the patently ridiculous and political way in which he did it.

Also, the right wing loves to make themselves martyrs. The hate is how they band together and convince themselves that they are right. They never once self-reflect. All the protesting is just proof to them that they did the right thing.

The regressives on the court are brainwashed turkeys. They don’t need to reflect, they’re in it for God!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I had a longer answer but the forums went down (for the format switch? Looks good, Jeff!).

It’s pretty clear that the leaker is Alito or one of his agents and it’s offensive that he thinks so little of Americans that he believes we won’t notice it was obviously a right winger (doesn’t stop him from insinuating otherwise!)

It’s like my four year insisting he didn’t eat the piece of chocolate cake despite frosting smeared on his face and fingers.

So not a snark but do want to know why do you think it’s obvious that Alito was the leaker in the Dobbs decision?

Have you read any of this thread?

NP. Oh, that’s why! Because DCUM and the mainstream say so

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I had a longer answer but the forums went down (for the format switch? Looks good, Jeff!).

It’s pretty clear that the leaker is Alito or one of his agents and it’s offensive that he thinks so little of Americans that he believes we won’t notice it was obviously a right winger (doesn’t stop him from insinuating otherwise!)

It’s like my four year insisting he didn’t eat the piece of chocolate cake despite frosting smeared on his face and fingers.

So not a snark but do want to know why do you think it’s obvious that Alito was the leaker in the Dobbs decision?

It is a ridiculous theory.
It was not surprising that following the leak the "conservative" Justices' homes were stalked and loons demonstrated for months. It is probably still occurring. They didn't expect a nutcase to fly across country with the intent of assassinating one of them, but it is not surprising that it happened.
They knew this would be a reaction because the left protests ANY thing they don't like....
So, he leaks a draft so they could be subject to death threats and months of protests?

Nope - this was someone on the left hoping that pressure would cause a change in the decision.
That backfired.

Have a real investigation with the FBI and grand jury. Bring in the conservatives judges and put them under oath. Not that that would matter. The conservatives do not believe in the Constitution and would think nothing if lying under oath. Bet they would start talking about the  admiralty court.

Note that the FBI can’t find the 1/6 bomber either, despite two videos from different angles.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I had a longer answer but the forums went down (for the format switch? Looks good, Jeff!).

It’s pretty clear that the leaker is Alito or one of his agents and it’s offensive that he thinks so little of Americans that he believes we won’t notice it was obviously a right winger (doesn’t stop him from insinuating otherwise!)

It’s like my four year insisting he didn’t eat the piece of chocolate cake despite frosting smeared on his face and fingers.

So not a snark but do want to know why do you think it’s obvious that Alito was the leaker in the Dobbs decision?

It is a ridiculous theory.
It was not surprising that following the leak the "conservative" Justices' homes were stalked and loons demonstrated for months. It is probably still occurring. They didn't expect a nutcase to fly across country with the intent of assassinating one of them, but it is not surprising that it happened.
They knew this would be a reaction because the left protests ANY thing they don't like....
So, he leaks a draft so they could be subject to death threats and months of protests?

Nope - this was someone on the left hoping that pressure would cause a change in the decision.
That backfired.

You’re ignoring the fact that: (1) Alito is completely divorced from reality, lives in a Catholic/FedSoc bubble, and likely expected continued deferential treatment despite the monumental nature of what he did and the patently ridiculous and political way in which he did it.

Also, the right wing loves to make themselves martyrs. The hate is how they band together and convince themselves that they are right. They never once self-reflect. All the protesting is just proof to them that they did the right thing.

Exactly - and they pretend the leak is somehow worse than the damning information leaked. When it's actually the other way around.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I had a longer answer but the forums went down (for the format switch? Looks good, Jeff!).

It’s pretty clear that the leaker is Alito or one of his agents and it’s offensive that he thinks so little of Americans that he believes we won’t notice it was obviously a right winger (doesn’t stop him from insinuating otherwise!)

It’s like my four year insisting he didn’t eat the piece of chocolate cake despite frosting smeared on his face and fingers.

So not a snark but do want to know why do you think it’s obvious that Alito was the leaker in the Dobbs decision?

It is a ridiculous theory.
It was not surprising that following the leak the "conservative" Justices' homes were stalked and loons demonstrated for months. It is probably still occurring. They didn't expect a nutcase to fly across country with the intent of assassinating one of them, but it is not surprising that it happened.
They knew this would be a reaction because the left protests ANY thing they don't like....
So, he leaks a draft so they could be subject to death threats and months of protests?

Nope - this was someone on the left hoping that pressure would cause a change in the decision.
That backfired.

Have a real investigation with the FBI and grand jury. Bring in the conservatives judges and put them under oath. Not that that would matter. The conservatives do not believe in the Constitution and would think nothing if lying under oath. Bet they would start talking about the  admiralty court.

Note that the FBI can’t find the 1/6 bomber either, despite two videos from different angles.

Video rarely leads to catching criminals.

Here is how SCOTUS cleared itself of wrong doing.

Unfortunately, the leak investigation it conducted demonstrates how not to conduct a leak investigation. It also illustrates, again, the need for internal oversight at the Court, which should have a better permanent capacity to police itself by more credibly investigating alleged misconduct and by identifying faulty procedures proactively.

The first problem in the Court’s leak investigation was whom the Court asked to conduct it. The marshal of the Court, Gail A. Curley, is responsible for overseeing the Supreme Court building’s operations, providing security for the justices and the building, disbursing payrolls, and managing the courtroom, including calling it to order. Curley is a former Army lawyer who does not have experience or expertise in conducting this type of complex investigation.

Even more problematic, the marshal did not have the necessary independence to conduct the investigation. In essence, she was asked to investigate her bosses, the justices, who are in the universe of potential leakers. They supervise her and can fire her. She was conflicted from the start. That is no reflection on Curley or her integrity. Any marshal would have been placed in the same position.

The second problem was how the investigation was conducted. According to the report itself, the probe focused on Court personnel—law clerks and permanent employees, who were intensively interrogated. They were required to sign notarized affidavits. Their personal cellphones were scrutinized. They were questioned as to whether they had talked about Court decisions with anyone, including their spouses, in the Dobbs case or other cases, prior to public release. According to the report, follow-up was pursued on leads relating to the clerks and employees.

The investigation did not treat the justices in the same way. When the report was issued, whether they had even been interviewed was not clear. It makes no mention of investigating the justices at all

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/03/supreme-court-dobbs-leak-investigation-internal-oversight/673283/

A fake investigation with the outcome predetermining the innocence of Alito.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I had a longer answer but the forums went down (for the format switch? Looks good, Jeff!).

It’s pretty clear that the leaker is Alito or one of his agents and it’s offensive that he thinks so little of Americans that he believes we won’t notice it was obviously a right winger (doesn’t stop him from insinuating otherwise!)

It’s like my four year insisting he didn’t eat the piece of chocolate cake despite frosting smeared on his face and fingers.

So not a snark but do want to know why do you think it’s obvious that Alito was the leaker in the Dobbs decision?

It is a ridiculous theory.
It was not surprising that following the leak the "conservative" Justices' homes were stalked and loons demonstrated for months. It is probably still occurring. They didn't expect a nutcase to fly across country with the intent of assassinating one of them, but it is not surprising that it happened.
They knew this would be a reaction because the left protests ANY thing they don't like....
So, he leaks a draft so they could be subject to death threats and months of protests?

Nope - this was someone on the left hoping that pressure would cause a change in the decision.
That backfired.

Have a real investigation with the FBI and grand jury. Bring in the conservatives judges and put them under oath. Not that that would matter. The conservatives do not believe in the Constitution and would think nothing if lying under oath. Bet they would start talking about the  admiralty court.

Note that the FBI can’t find the 1/6 bomber either, despite two videos from different angles.

Video rarely leads to catching criminals.

Here is how SCOTUS cleared itself of wrong doing.

Unfortunately, the leak investigation it conducted demonstrates how not to conduct a leak investigation. It also illustrates, again, the need for internal oversight at the Court, which should have a better permanent capacity to police itself by more credibly investigating alleged misconduct and by identifying faulty procedures proactively.

The first problem in the Court’s leak investigation was whom the Court asked to conduct it. The marshal of the Court, Gail A. Curley, is responsible for overseeing the Supreme Court building’s operations, providing security for the justices and the building, disbursing payrolls, and managing the courtroom, including calling it to order. Curley is a former Army lawyer who does not have experience or expertise in conducting this type of complex investigation.

Even more problematic, the marshal did not have the necessary independence to conduct the investigation. In essence, she was asked to investigate her bosses, the justices, who are in the universe of potential leakers. They supervise her and can fire her. She was conflicted from the start. That is no reflection on Curley or her integrity. Any marshal would have been placed in the same position.

The second problem was how the investigation was conducted. According to the report itself, the probe focused on Court personnel—law clerks and permanent employees, who were intensively interrogated. They were required to sign notarized affidavits. Their personal cellphones were scrutinized. They were questioned as to whether they had talked about Court decisions with anyone, including their spouses, in the Dobbs case or other cases, prior to public release. According to the report, follow-up was pursued on leads relating to the clerks and employees.

The investigation did not treat the justices in the same way. When the report was issued, whether they had even been interviewed was not clear. It makes no mention of investigating the justices at all

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/03/supreme-court-dobbs-leak-investigation-internal-oversight/673283/

A fake investigation with the outcome predetermining the innocence of Alito.

The Atlantic? Surely you jest.
And, the last sentence is flat out false. You would think they would do a little more research given this article was published after this CNN article:
https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/21/politics/supreme-court-justices-investigation-dobbs-leak/index.html#:~:text=The%20Supreme%20Court%20marshal%20who,implicate%20them%20or%20their%20spouses.

It states:
"The Supreme Court marshal who investigated last year’s leak of a draft opinion overturning Roe v. Wade has revealed that she spoke to all nine justices and found nothing to implicate them or their spouses."

This Atlantic article is yet another example of a hit piece that is designed to discredit the court.
The tactic the left is taking here is very dangerous.

[Anonymous]

Another fake news bombshell. They continue to delegitimize themselves through their own efforts. Why do they hate us?!?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Another fake news bombshell. They continue to delegitimize themselves through their own efforts. Why do they hate us?!?

The NY Times has never really held the American citizen in high regard.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I had a longer answer but the forums went down (for the format switch? Looks good, Jeff!).

It’s pretty clear that the leaker is Alito or one of his agents and it’s offensive that he thinks so little of Americans that he believes we won’t notice it was obviously a right winger (doesn’t stop him from insinuating otherwise!)

It’s like my four year insisting he didn’t eat the piece of chocolate cake despite frosting smeared on his face and fingers.

So not a snark but do want to know why do you think it’s obvious that Alito was the leaker in the Dobbs decision?

It is a ridiculous theory.
It was not surprising that following the leak the "conservative" Justices' homes were stalked and loons demonstrated for months. It is probably still occurring. They didn't expect a nutcase to fly across country with the intent of assassinating one of them, but it is not surprising that it happened.
They knew this would be a reaction because the left protests ANY thing they don't like....
So, he leaks a draft so they could be subject to death threats and months of protests?

Nope - this was someone on the left hoping that pressure would cause a change in the decision.
That backfired.

Have a real investigation with the FBI and grand jury. Bring in the conservatives judges and put them under oath. Not that that would matter. The conservatives do not believe in the Constitution and would think nothing if lying under oath. Bet they would start talking about the  admiralty court.

Note that the FBI can’t find the 1/6 bomber either, despite two videos from different angles.

Video rarely leads to catching criminals.

Here is how SCOTUS cleared itself of wrong doing.

Unfortunately, the leak investigation it conducted demonstrates how not to conduct a leak investigation. It also illustrates, again, the need for internal oversight at the Court, which should have a better permanent capacity to police itself by more credibly investigating alleged misconduct and by identifying faulty procedures proactively.

The first problem in the Court’s leak investigation was whom the Court asked to conduct it. The marshal of the Court, Gail A. Curley, is responsible for overseeing the Supreme Court building’s operations, providing security for the justices and the building, disbursing payrolls, and managing the courtroom, including calling it to order. Curley is a former Army lawyer who does not have experience or expertise in conducting this type of complex investigation.

Even more problematic, the marshal did not have the necessary independence to conduct the investigation. In essence, she was asked to investigate her bosses, the justices, who are in the universe of potential leakers. They supervise her and can fire her. She was conflicted from the start. That is no reflection on Curley or her integrity. Any marshal would have been placed in the same position.

The second problem was how the investigation was conducted. According to the report itself, the probe focused on Court personnel—law clerks and permanent employees, who were intensively interrogated. They were required to sign notarized affidavits. Their personal cellphones were scrutinized. They were questioned as to whether they had talked about Court decisions with anyone, including their spouses, in the Dobbs case or other cases, prior to public release. According to the report, follow-up was pursued on leads relating to the clerks and employees.

The investigation did not treat the justices in the same way. When the report was issued, whether they had even been interviewed was not clear. It makes no mention of investigating the justices at all

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/03/supreme-court-dobbs-leak-investigation-internal-oversight/673283/

A fake investigation with the outcome predetermining the innocence of Alito.

The Atlantic? Surely you jest.
And, the last sentence is flat out false. You would think they would do a little more research given this article was published after this CNN article:
https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/21/politics/supreme-court-justices-investigation-dobbs-leak/index.html#:~:text=The%20Supreme%20Court%20marshal%20who,implicate%20them%20or%20their%20spouses.

It states:
"The Supreme Court marshal who investigated last year’s leak of a draft opinion overturning Roe v. Wade has revealed that she spoke to all nine justices and found nothing to implicate them or their spouses."

This Atlantic article is yet another example of a hit piece that is designed to discredit the court.
The tactic the left is taking here is very dangerous.

Oh well by all means. The six justices who told bold faced lies about precedence should 100% be believed.