Capital Tryouts

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Capital blue players are prioritized before capital orange players in the recruiting game. While Capital has a strong track record of getting orange players committed, they get far less attention from the recruiting director especially while Blue players are still trying to find schools. If a blue and an orange player are vying for the same school, the blue player will be promoted ahead of the orange player.

Unfortunately this was our very recent experience with Capital Orange and the recruiting director as well. Basically if your DD is on Orange and has the grades, test scores and other ECs for a selective college you can forget about playing lacrosse in college if you're on the Orange team unless you and your daughter are okay with mediocre colleges that would never otherwise be on your radar just so she can play lacrosse. But hey, if you are okay with Butler or Cincinnati even if your daughter has the grades for Colgate or Williams, then Capital Orange may just be the team for you!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Capital blue players are prioritized before capital orange players in the recruiting game. While Capital has a strong track record of getting orange players committed, they get far less attention from the recruiting director especially while Blue players are still trying to find schools. If a blue and an orange player are vying for the same school, the blue player will be promoted ahead of the orange player.

Unfortunately this was our very recent experience with Capital Orange and the recruiting director as well. Basically if your DD is on Orange and has the grades, test scores and other ECs for a selective college you can forget about playing lacrosse in college if you're on the Orange team unless you and your daughter are okay with mediocre colleges that would never otherwise be on your radar just so she can play lacrosse. But hey, if you are okay with Butler or Cincinnati even if your daughter has the grades for Colgate or Williams, then Capital Orange may just be the team for you!

If your daughter had the grades for those schools why didn't it work out? Not being snarky just curious? Is it because they only need a number of players and took the Blue players over the Orange players? Sounds like that would be kind of standard no?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Capital blue players are prioritized before capital orange players in the recruiting game. While Capital has a strong track record of getting orange players committed, they get far less attention from the recruiting director especially while Blue players are still trying to find schools. If a blue and an orange player are vying for the same school, the blue player will be promoted ahead of the orange player.

Unfortunately this was our very recent experience with Capital Orange and the recruiting director as well. Basically if your DD is on Orange and has the grades, test scores and other ECs for a selective college you can forget about playing lacrosse in college if you're on the Orange team unless you and your daughter are okay with mediocre colleges that would never otherwise be on your radar just so she can play lacrosse. But hey, if you are okay with Butler or Cincinnati even if your daughter has the grades for Colgate or Williams, then Capital Orange may just be the team for you!

If your daughter had the grades for those schools why didn't it work out? Not being snarky just curious? Is it because they only need a number of players and took the Blue players over the Orange players? Sounds like that would be kind of standard no?

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[Anonymous]

100% true. The recruiting coordinator at capital should re-think her strategy on how she helps blue and or orange players with equal time to both players. But of course thats not reality and it will never be that way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Capital blue players are prioritized before capital orange players in the recruiting game. While Capital has a strong track record of getting orange players committed, they get far less attention from the recruiting director especially while Blue players are still trying to find schools. If a blue and an orange player are vying for the same school, the blue player will be promoted ahead of the orange player.

Unfortunately this was our very recent experience with Capital Orange and the recruiting director as well. Basically if your DD is on Orange and has the grades, test scores and other ECs for a selective college you can forget about playing lacrosse in college if you're on the Orange team unless you and your daughter are okay with mediocre colleges that would never otherwise be on your radar just so she can play lacrosse. But hey, if you are okay with Butler or Cincinnati even if your daughter has the grades for Colgate or Williams, then Capital Orange may just be the team for you!

Or she could have just gone to a prospect day at Colgate or Williams and impressed their coaching staff?

This post shows everything wrong with expectations on the recruiting process.

Too many girls and families are waiting for something to be handed to them instead of earning them. The reality is that if you aren't one of the top 150 players in the country, you will need to go to your targeted schools and impress their coaches IN-PERSON MULTIPLE TIMES.

Doesn't matter what club team you play on or who your recruiting director is. It's just the reality of recruiting in lacrosse, and quite frankly most olympic sports.

Coaches will be coming to the games of both teams. It's all about what the girls do with the opportunity. Remember more than half of the Capital Blue team (and Heros Green and M&D Black) won't be going Ivies, or top-40 women's lacrosse schools. Very limited spots at the top schools.

Also, it will get harder and harder every year as other states like Florida, Georgia, Colorado, Texas and California are all churning out dozens of girls good enough to play at these schools. Five year ago, most players on Capital Blue would likely have a chance to play at a top-40 program. That isn't even close to true now with all of the growth in other states.

[Anonymous]

Why would the recruiting director spend the same amount of time with blue players vs orange players? Getting the better blue girls recruited is the priority. If orange players are unhappy with this, they should’ve practiced more.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why would the recruiting director spend the same amount of time with blue players vs orange players? Getting the better blue girls recruited is the priority. If orange players are unhappy with this, they should’ve practiced more.

I wouldnt go this far but I agree with you that PP does not make sense. They are on Blue because they are better. Why would they be the same?

[Anonymous]

Ridiculous post here. Yes the blue players are more talented (generally speaking), but the point is, the recruiting director should spend the same amount of time on each player given the fact that the blue player will probably be looking at different schools. Both blue and orange parents pay the same amount of money and should expect the same service when it comes to recruiting. Think about that for a second. I am saying the same amount of time spent in each player whether they are looking at UNC or a low D3. Why should it matter if they are blue or orange. The capital recruiting director should do what’s right and best for the kids and give her full attention to all of them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ridiculous post here. Yes the blue players are more talented (generally speaking), but the point is, the recruiting director should spend the same amount of time on each player given the fact that the blue player will probably be looking at different schools. Both blue and orange parents pay the same amount of money and should expect the same service when it comes to recruiting. Think about that for a second. I am saying the same amount of time spent in each player whether they are looking at UNC or a low D3. Why should it matter if they are blue or orange. The capital recruiting director should do what’s right and best for the kids and give her full attention to all of them.

Honest question. What do you want the recruiting director to do that she isn't doing now?

I've been to many Cap Orange games and there are usually 15-20 coaches on the sidelines at big recruiting tourneys. All a recruiting director can do is give players a realistic view of which schools they should target, promote players and relay feedback. Even the best recruiting directors don't get girls offers. The best they can do is get girls in the A group at prospect days. (And that isn't even happening without really good film).

I think the bigger issue is that many Cap parents (probably Blue more than Orange) don't have a real understanding at where their daughter's lacrosse level is. Most years only 10 or so Cap Blue girls are good enough for top 25 teams. That usually leaves 30-35 girls and parents disappointed.

My daughter was at a Penn prospect day earlier this summer. There were 3 or 4 2025 Cap Orange girls in my daughter's group. They were solid players but well behind girls from Heros, M&D and top LI clubs. My daughter said Penn was one of these top targets for 2 of these girls. If there is a problem with Capital recruiting, I think it is leading some girls on to spend their time on schools where they don't have a realistic chance.

If girls weren't getting exposure, I think that is a legit concern. But I havent heard any parent complain that coaches aren't watching them -- just that they aren't making offers after they do.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ridiculous post here. Yes the blue players are more talented (generally speaking), but the point is, the recruiting director should spend the same amount of time on each player given the fact that the blue player will probably be looking at different schools. Both blue and orange parents pay the same amount of money and should expect the same service when it comes to recruiting. Think about that for a second. I am saying the same amount of time spent in each player whether they are looking at UNC or a low D3. Why should it matter if they are blue or orange. The capital recruiting director should do what’s right and best for the kids and give her full attention to all of them.

Honest question. What do you want the recruiting director to do that she isn't doing now?

I've been to many Cap Orange games and there are usually 15-20 coaches on the sidelines at big recruiting tourneys. All a recruiting director can do is give players a realistic view of which schools they should target, promote players and relay feedback. Even the best recruiting directors don't get girls offers. The best they can do is get girls in the A group at prospect days. (And that isn't even happening without really good film).

I think the bigger issue is that many Cap parents (probably Blue more than Orange) don't have a real understanding at where their daughter's lacrosse level is. Most years only 10 or so Cap Blue girls are good enough for top 25 teams. That usually leaves 30-35 girls and parents disappointed.

My daughter was at a Penn prospect day earlier this summer. There were 3 or 4 2025 Cap Orange girls in my daughter's group. They were solid players but well behind girls from Heros, M&D and top LI clubs. My daughter said Penn was one of these top targets for 2 of these girls. If there is a problem with Capital recruiting, I think it is leading some girls on to spend their time on schools where they don't have a realistic chance.

If girls weren't getting exposure, I think that is a legit concern. But I havent heard any parent complain that coaches aren't watching them -- just that they aren't making offers after they do.

Well said. Capital and all other clubs state from the beginning that they are there to guide but parents and players are driving the recruiting train. Having realistic expectations is key.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ridiculous post here. Yes the blue players are more talented (generally speaking), but the point is, the recruiting director should spend the same amount of time on each player given the fact that the blue player will probably be looking at different schools. Both blue and orange parents pay the same amount of money and should expect the same service when it comes to recruiting. Think about that for a second. I am saying the same amount of time spent in each player whether they are looking at UNC or a low D3. Why should it matter if they are blue or orange. The capital recruiting director should do what’s right and best for the kids and give her full attention to all of them.

In theory you are correct I know I would want that but I’m sure there are discrepancies with the blue and orange team also.

If my daughter is the top player on orange she may have 10 to 11 schools requesting info well if my daughter was near the bottom of the orange team they may be only 2 to 3 schools requesting info so of course the recruiting Director would spend less time on the 2 to 3 requests not based on popularity based on demand.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ridiculous post here. Yes the blue players are more talented (generally speaking), but the point is, the recruiting director should spend the same amount of time on each player given the fact that the blue player will probably be looking at different schools. Both blue and orange parents pay the same amount of money and should expect the same service when it comes to recruiting. Think about that for a second. I am saying the same amount of time spent in each player whether they are looking at UNC or a low D3. Why should it matter if they are blue or orange. The capital recruiting director should do what’s right and best for the kids and give her full attention to all of them.

Honest question. What do you want the recruiting director to do that she isn't doing now?

I've been to many Cap Orange games and there are usually 15-20 coaches on the sidelines at big recruiting tourneys. All a recruiting director can do is give players a realistic view of which schools they should target, promote players and relay feedback. Even the best recruiting directors don't get girls offers. The best they can do is get girls in the A group at prospect days. (And that isn't even happening without really good film).

I think the bigger issue is that many Cap parents (probably Blue more than Orange) don't have a real understanding at where their daughter's lacrosse level is. Most years only 10 or so Cap Blue girls are good enough for top 25 teams. That usually leaves 30-35 girls and parents disappointed.

My daughter was at a Penn prospect day earlier this summer. There were 3 or 4 2025 Cap Orange girls in my daughter's group. They were solid players but well behind girls from Heros, M&D and top LI clubs. My daughter said Penn was one of these top targets for 2 of these girls. If there is a problem with Capital recruiting, I think it is leading some girls on to spend their time on schools where they don't have a realistic chance.

If girls weren't getting exposure, I think that is a legit concern. But I havent heard any parent complain that coaches aren't watching them -- just that they aren't making offers after they do.

You assume many Cap Blue players didn’t have opportunities to play for top 25 teams. You’re wrong. Some Cap Blue girls turned down serious Big 10 and ACC offers in favor of better academic options. Some may think that’s crazy. Others see it as prioritizing academics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ridiculous post here. Yes the blue players are more talented (generally speaking), but the point is, the recruiting director should spend the same amount of time on each player given the fact that the blue player will probably be looking at different schools. Both blue and orange parents pay the same amount of money and should expect the same service when it comes to recruiting. Think about that for a second. I am saying the same amount of time spent in each player whether they are looking at UNC or a low D3. Why should it matter if they are blue or orange. The capital recruiting director should do what’s right and best for the kids and give her full attention to all of them.

Honest question. What do you want the recruiting director to do that she isn't doing now?

I've been to many Cap Orange games and there are usually 15-20 coaches on the sidelines at big recruiting tourneys. All a recruiting director can do is give players a realistic view of which schools they should target, promote players and relay feedback. Even the best recruiting directors don't get girls offers. The best they can do is get girls in the A group at prospect days. (And that isn't even happening without really good film).

I think the bigger issue is that many Cap parents (probably Blue more than Orange) don't have a real understanding at where their daughter's lacrosse level is. Most years only 10 or so Cap Blue girls are good enough for top 25 teams. That usually leaves 30-35 girls and parents disappointed.

My daughter was at a Penn prospect day earlier this summer. There were 3 or 4 2025 Cap Orange girls in my daughter's group. They were solid players but well behind girls from Heros, M&D and top LI clubs. My daughter said Penn was one of these top targets for 2 of these girls. If there is a problem with Capital recruiting, I think it is leading some girls on to spend their time on schools where they don't have a realistic chance.

If girls weren't getting exposure, I think that is a legit concern. But I havent heard any parent complain that coaches aren't watching them -- just that they aren't making offers after they do.

You assume many Cap Blue players didn’t have opportunities to play for top 25 teams. You’re wrong. Some Cap Blue girls turned down serious Big 10 and ACC offers in favor of better academic options. Some may think that’s crazy. Others see it as prioritizing academics.

I am aware of that. There were also several 2023s who went to lower D1 schools (MAC, AAC, Big East including some schools previously mentioned in this thread) because those their only options.

[Anonymous]

I think the impact of the later recruiting cycle has really made a difference in recruiting. Previously you saw girls committing at 14 and 15 years old. This was purely based on speculation. Coaches would see young athletes playing on the top club teams and would have to role the dice on how they thought they would progress. It was easier to hedge their bets based on historically good High School team and established clubs (Capital/Skywalkers/M&D et al.) Now that they have to wait till the athletes are going into their senior year a lot of the guess work is out of the game. They have now seen them over 3 years of club and high school. They do not need to rely on the recruiting directors opinions as much. That role has now been transformed into a facilitator role. So once again it will come down to GRADES and actual proven ability on the field. The funny thing is if you go back 15 years this is exactly how recruiting went, then there was a period of early recruiting and the pressure to grab the kids first, this created the "Money Grab" of club lacrosse. Most kids playing club lax these days are no where near "D1 of even top D3" level. It used to be you could play summer Req league for fun, now thats gone and you have to play travel, everyone then gets caught up in the recruiting hysteria and thats when parents feel they are missing out on something for their kids future. Way to much pressure on everyone involved.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think the impact of the later recruiting cycle has really made a difference in recruiting. Previously you saw girls committing at 14 and 15 years old. This was purely based on speculation. Coaches would see young athletes playing on the top club teams and would have to role the dice on how they thought they would progress. It was easier to hedge their bets based on historically good High School team and established clubs (Capital/Skywalkers/M&D et al.) Now that they have to wait till the athletes are going into their senior year a lot of the guess work is out of the game. They have now seen them over 3 years of club and high school. They do not need to rely on the recruiting directors opinions as much. That role has now been transformed into a facilitator role. So once again it will come down to GRADES and actual proven ability on the field. The funny thing is if you go back 15 years this is exactly how recruiting went, then there was a period of early recruiting and the pressure to grab the kids first, this created the "Money Grab" of club lacrosse. Most kids playing club lax these days are no where near "D1 of even top D3" level. It used to be you could play summer Req league for fun, now thats gone and you have to play travel, everyone then gets caught up in the recruiting hysteria and thats when parents feel they are missing out on something for their kids future. Way to much pressure on everyone involved.

Agreed. It also puts the Ivys/high academics in better position. During the Wild West days, they couldn't offer at the same time many of the other programs could .