Capital Tryouts

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Anonymous wrote:Capital has a B team that is good too. If you don’t make A, it’s not a bad option.

The difference is that Capital Orange doesn’t get recruited like Capital Blue. So while they may be competitive and the girls have a good time, it’s more for the love of the game than for the opportunity to play in college.

Not true at all. Capital gets both teams recruited. Obviously the better players can go to more competitive schools. Capital is by far the best option if your DD has the skills to make the team.

Many (but not all) Capital O parents would likely disagree with this assessment.

Sometimes they make you commit to Capital then let you know later if Orange or Blue making it too late to secure spot on the other team like VA Metro. This is a bad practice as it forces players to decide without having all the information. Capital B is not the same as A. It can really hurt a player to be on a clubs B team v. a lesser club A team. Colleges know it is a B team and the D1 programs want A team players or top players. If on the border much better to stay on your clubs A team. Capital B team parents are always unhappy and have run off multiple coaches.

Or the coaches moved.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Capital has a B team that is good too. If you don’t make A, it’s not a bad option.

The difference is that Capital Orange doesn’t get recruited like Capital Blue. So while they may be competitive and the girls have a good time, it’s more for the love of the game than for the opportunity to play in college.

Not true at all. Capital gets both teams recruited. Obviously the better players can go to more competitive schools. Capital is by far the best option if your DD has the skills to make the team.

When recruiting season hits, the recruiting coordinator basically pays very little to no attention to Orange team players until the Blue team is almost fully recruited (regardless of the fact that about 4-6 players on each team could be switched and no one would no the difference). At that point, many options have been foreclosed so Orange girls tend to settle for mediocre colleges they’d never attend otherwise or forgo college play. However, if you’re an Orange player and you’ve got a great private school coach helping with recruiting you may have better luck.

[Anonymous]

Finally some honesty on this board concerning B teams. M&D, Heros, Skywalkers, Capital, all have B teams and all hurt these players in recruiting. It is much better to play for a club where a player is valued by that program as a top level player. A club has an obligation to get the best players recruited. What message does it send if you are not even on the clubs top team. At least with larger clubs like 3D and True players had chances to play for top clubs in other cities at tournaments or national teams. The B teams are just a way for these clubs to make more money at the players expense. They should be honest with the parents and players but they are not.

[Anonymous]

Watch out if you currently play for Pride. KM actively takes revenge on her players that try out.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Capital has a B team that is good too. If you don’t make A, it’s not a bad option.

The difference is that Capital Orange doesn’t get recruited like Capital Blue. So while they may be competitive and the girls have a good time, it’s more for the love of the game than for the opportunity to play in college.

Not true at all. Capital gets both teams recruited. Obviously the better players can go to more competitive schools. Capital is by far the best option if your DD has the skills to make the team.

When recruiting season hits, the recruiting coordinator basically pays very little to no attention to Orange team players until the Blue team is almost fully recruited (regardless of the fact that about 4-6 players on each team could be switched and no one would no the difference). At that point, many options have been foreclosed so Orange girls tend to settle for mediocre colleges they’d never attend otherwise or forgo college play. However, if you’re an Orange player and you’ve got a great private school coach helping with recruiting you may have better luck.

I’m getting the sense that most of the recruiting is now happening at the private schools. One thing that’s interesting about Capital is that barely any girls on Blue go to public schools while it’s about half of the Orange team.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Capital has a B team that is good too. If you don’t make A, it’s not a bad option.

The difference is that Capital Orange doesn’t get recruited like Capital Blue. So while they may be competitive and the girls have a good time, it’s more for the love of the game than for the opportunity to play in college.

Not true at all. Capital gets both teams recruited. Obviously the better players can go to more competitive schools. Capital is by far the best option if your DD has the skills to make the team.

When recruiting season hits, the recruiting coordinator basically pays very little to no attention to Orange team players until the Blue team is almost fully recruited (regardless of the fact that about 4-6 players on each team could be switched and no one would no the difference). At that point, many options have been foreclosed so Orange girls tend to settle for mediocre colleges they’d never attend otherwise or forgo college play. However, if you’re an Orange player and you’ve got a great private school coach helping with recruiting you may have better luck.

I’m getting the sense that most of the recruiting is now happening at the private schools. One thing that’s interesting about Capital is that barely any girls on Blue go to public schools while it’s about half of the Orange team.

The private school and Blue is not accurate and continues to decline every year. More and more public school kids are are Capital Blue. The days of the whole private school/Capital dwindle daily.

[Anonymous]

That’s not true. A few years ago it was closer to half, now it’s 3 out of 4 that go private. It’s debatable how much going to a private helps. I would say being on the Capital Blue team is more important than whether you go public or private.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Capital has a B team that is good too. If you don’t make A, it’s not a bad option.

The difference is that Capital Orange doesn’t get recruited like Capital Blue. So while they may be competitive and the girls have a good time, it’s more for the love of the game than for the opportunity to play in college.

Not true at all. Capital gets both teams recruited. Obviously the better players can go to more competitive schools. Capital is by far the best option if your DD has the skills to make the team.

When recruiting season hits, the recruiting coordinator basically pays very little to no attention to Orange team players until the Blue team is almost fully recruited (regardless of the fact that about 4-6 players on each team could be switched and no one would no the difference). At that point, many options have been foreclosed so Orange girls tend to settle for mediocre colleges they’d never attend otherwise or forgo college play. However, if you’re an Orange player and you’ve got a great private school coach helping with recruiting you may have better luck.

I’m getting the sense that most of the recruiting is now happening at the private schools. One thing that’s interesting about Capital is that barely any girls on Blue go to public schools while it’s about half of the Orange team.

The private school and Blue is not accurate and continues to decline every year. More and more public school kids are are Capital Blue. The days of the whole private school/Capital dwindle daily.

It’s used to be basically all SSASS and now it’s a mix of different schools. But its basically 90% private.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Finally some honesty on this board concerning B teams. M&D, Heros, Skywalkers, Capital, all have B teams and all hurt these players in recruiting. It is much better to play for a club where a player is valued by that program as a top level player. A club has an obligation to get the best players recruited. What message does it send if you are not even on the clubs top team. At least with larger clubs like 3D and True players had chances to play for top clubs in other cities at tournaments or national teams. The B teams are just a way for these clubs to make more money at the players expense. They should be honest with the parents and players but they are not.

You can be the best on the 'B' team but you are still behind every single one of the 'A' players for that club. And coaches will ask why you are not on 'A'. Not to you necessarily, but to the club.

[Anonymous]

College coaches are also smart enough to see a great B player versus an average “A” player playing for a mediocre club.

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Anonymous wrote:College coaches are also smart enough to see a great B player versus an average “A” player playing for a mediocre club.

The problem with your comment is “great” B player. Same player would show better being on Metro top team v Capital B. A “great” player by definition would be on Capital Blue not Orange.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:College coaches are also smart enough to see a great B player versus an average “A” player playing for a mediocre club.

The problem with your comment is “great” B player. Same player would show better being on Metro top team v Capital B. A “great” player by definition would be on Capital Blue not Orange.

The problem with your comment is that you’re ignoring the politics involved in placement for a decent amount of the girls.

[Anonymous]

This is very true - as a PP mentioned in any given year maybe 6 of the Orange girls could get switched with 6 of the Blue with no appreciable change in the level of play on either team. Politics, maybe, personal preference on playing style, maybe, but whatever the reason the dynamic exists. In my daughters year there were about 8 girls from the Orange team who went D1 and about 7 who went D3 (not the same as Blue but stacks up against any other club in the area). You can make it to D1 from either team but don't rely on the recruiting director of any club to do all the work for you. They may have some connections, but your daughters need to attend camps, reach out to the coaches, send film etc. As for the comment about showing better at VA Metro or Pride if you are a stronger B player, I'm not sure that's true either. You can get to your goal in either scenario, just depends on what you want. You will get to bigger tournaments with stronger teams if you play for Capital, which is helpful, but in any given age group you need to consider the coaching at the clubs you are considering as well as the girls you want to play with, cost, convenience of practices etc. - there is no one size fits all. And in terms of the Private vs. Public, I think the one benefit of being at a private is the potential to have a very strong collection of talent on your team, and the flexibility to schedule some games against very strong out of area competition. My daughter played at one of the top Privates in the area, and from her perspective she was much better prepared for D1 college lacrosse than some of her teammates because of this dynamic.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:College coaches are also smart enough to see a great B player versus an average “A” player playing for a mediocre club.

The problem with your comment is “great” B player. Same player would show better being on Metro top team v Capital B. A “great” player by definition would be on Capital Blue not Orange.

The problem with your comment is that you’re ignoring the politics involved in placement for a decent amount of the girls.

Lots of politics at Capital and who makes what team etc. There's lot of talent in the area outside of Capital blue and orange, but some of the people running those teams don't have a clue to really evaluate talent. The SSSA pipeline is losing its grip as well, as their younger talent is just not good.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is very true - as a PP mentioned in any given year maybe 6 of the Orange girls could get switched with 6 of the Blue with no appreciable change in the level of play on either team. Politics, maybe, personal preference on playing style, maybe, but whatever the reason the dynamic exists. In my daughters year there were about 8 girls from the Orange team who went D1 and about 7 who went D3 (not the same as Blue but stacks up against any other club in the area). You can make it to D1 from either team but don't rely on the recruiting director of any club to do all the work for you. They may have some connections, but your daughters need to attend camps, reach out to the coaches, send film etc. As for the comment about showing better at VA Metro or Pride if you are a stronger B player, I'm not sure that's true either. You can get to your goal in either scenario, just depends on what you want. You will get to bigger tournaments with stronger teams if you play for Capital, which is helpful, but in any given age group you need to consider the coaching at the clubs you are considering as well as the girls you want to play with, cost, convenience of practices etc. - there is no one size fits all. And in terms of the Private vs. Public, I think the one benefit of being at a private is the potential to have a very strong collection of talent on your team, and the flexibility to schedule some games against very strong out of area competition. My daughter played at one of the top Privates in the area, and from her perspective she was much better prepared for D1 college lacrosse than some of her teammates because of this dynamic.

thoughtful and spot on.