How is FCPS teacher/staff shortage?

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Anonymous wrote:This school is recruiting on its web page. I've never seen that before.

https://eagleviewes.fcps.edu/features/why-work-eagle-view

So much Gatehouse-type word salad. Clearly this school is heavy on programs that will take so much time away from actual lessons.

This would make me run the other direction if I was looking to switch schools.

This is all the stuff every other school is pushing - all FCPS initiatives. The only one that doesn’t exist everywhere else is Positivity Project. PBIS is just a switch-out if Responsive Classroom.

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Almost 70 English teachers needed in MS/HS, according to this week's listing. Wow.

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Anonymous wrote:If you career-switch to become a teacher - and the field needs these people more than ever because of teacher exodus - work experience in other fields does not "count" in the pay scale and you're paid as a first year teacher. I speak from experience...I have 15 years of experience in international trade and 2 Master's degrees (counting the one I studied for and paid for in secondary education) yet am paid as a second year teacher. This only works because my spouse makes quite a bit more than me AND we're willing to live simply. Push SB for some sort of equivalency for those coming to teaching from other professions and more people might be interested/financially able.

90% of all the openings I see are in sped, bilingual, math and science. It's these folks who need to be paid more. If private sector people come in qualified to teach these areas, they should get more pay (along with all the people already there).
And speaking of experience that doesn't count, districts balance their budgets on teachers' backs all the time. I should be paid for 25 years of experience. Instead, because I have changed districts, I get paid for 15 years experience. This means I am underpaid by about 25K. I have thought a lot about leaving. But reality is that I am 6-10 years from being able to retire and damn it, I am going to get my full pension if it kills me. Other people don't have my staying power and they are leaving. It would make sense to pay people like me, who have moved districts, for every year we've worked.

There is no way 90% are within those disciplines. I just looked and there are almost 140 postings for grades 1-6 (gen ed and AAP)

agree it's across the board

It’s easier for the average parent if they think it won’t have an impact on their kid’s classroom. It absolutely might

I feel fortunate knowing who my kid’s teacher is (Local Level 4) and that they are definitely coming back. I feel bad for any child that doesn’t have a full time teacher in August. 😢

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Anonymous wrote:Almost 70 English teachers needed in MS/HS, according to this week's listing. Wow.

I just counted 16 on the vacancy list. Where are you getting 70?

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almost 680 vacancies on the FCPS site. Transfer window within FCPS closed yesterday.

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Anonymous wrote:If you career-switch to become a teacher - and the field needs these people more than ever because of teacher exodus - work experience in other fields does not "count" in the pay scale and you're paid as a first year teacher. I speak from experience...I have 15 years of experience in international trade and 2 Master's degrees (counting the one I studied for and paid for in secondary education) yet am paid as a second year teacher. This only works because my spouse makes quite a bit more than me AND we're willing to live simply. Push SB for some sort of equivalency for those coming to teaching from other professions and more people might be interested/financially able.

90% of all the openings I see are in sped, bilingual, math and science. It's these folks who need to be paid more. If private sector people come in qualified to teach these areas, they should get more pay (along with all the people already there).
And speaking of experience that doesn't count, districts balance their budgets on teachers' backs all the time. I should be paid for 25 years of experience. Instead, because I have changed districts, I get paid for 15 years experience. This means I am underpaid by about 25K. I have thought a lot about leaving. But reality is that I am 6-10 years from being able to retire and damn it, I am going to get my full pension if it kills me. Other people don't have my staying power and they are leaving. It would make sense to pay people like me, who have moved districts, for every year we've worked.

There is no way 90% are within those disciplines. I just looked and there are almost 140 postings for grades 1-6 (gen ed and AAP)

agree it's across the board

It’s easier for the average parent if they think it won’t have an impact on their kid’s classroom. It absolutely might

I feel fortunate knowing who my kid’s teacher is (Local Level 4) and that they are definitely coming back. I feel bad for any child that doesn’t have a full time teacher in August. 😢

I do, too, but that Eagle View recruitment page makes me realize why they are losing ES teachers. I never thought teaching kids could be made to seem so utterly JOYLESS. Growth mindset? Continued quality professional development? Presume positivity toward change? Jesus. What a weird combination of what sounds like financial management jargon and self-help lingo.

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Anonymous wrote:If you career-switch to become a teacher - and the field needs these people more than ever because of teacher exodus - work experience in other fields does not "count" in the pay scale and you're paid as a first year teacher. I speak from experience...I have 15 years of experience in international trade and 2 Master's degrees (counting the one I studied for and paid for in secondary education) yet am paid as a second year teacher. This only works because my spouse makes quite a bit more than me AND we're willing to live simply. Push SB for some sort of equivalency for those coming to teaching from other professions and more people might be interested/financially able.

90% of all the openings I see are in sped, bilingual, math and science. It's these folks who need to be paid more. If private sector people come in qualified to teach these areas, they should get more pay (along with all the people already there).
And speaking of experience that doesn't count, districts balance their budgets on teachers' backs all the time. I should be paid for 25 years of experience. Instead, because I have changed districts, I get paid for 15 years experience. This means I am underpaid by about 25K. I have thought a lot about leaving. But reality is that I am 6-10 years from being able to retire and damn it, I am going to get my full pension if it kills me. Other people don't have my staying power and they are leaving. It would make sense to pay people like me, who have moved districts, for every year we've worked.

There is no way 90% are within those disciplines. I just looked and there are almost 140 postings for grades 1-6 (gen ed and AAP)

agree it's across the board

It’s easier for the average parent if they think it won’t have an impact on their kid’s classroom. It absolutely might

I feel fortunate knowing who my kid’s teacher is (Local Level 4) and that they are definitely coming back. I feel bad for any child that doesn’t have a full time teacher in August. 😢

I do, too, but that Eagle View recruitment page makes me realize why they are losing ES teachers. I never thought teaching kids could be made to seem so utterly JOYLESS. Growth mindset? Continued quality professional development? Presume positivity toward change? Jesus. What a weird combination of what sounds like financial management jargon and self-help lingo.

The ES postings on the job search page are crazy, it feels like they go on forever.

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Anonymous wrote:If you career-switch to become a teacher - and the field needs these people more than ever because of teacher exodus - work experience in other fields does not "count" in the pay scale and you're paid as a first year teacher. I speak from experience...I have 15 years of experience in international trade and 2 Master's degrees (counting the one I studied for and paid for in secondary education) yet am paid as a second year teacher. This only works because my spouse makes quite a bit more than me AND we're willing to live simply. Push SB for some sort of equivalency for those coming to teaching from other professions and more people might be interested/financially able.

90% of all the openings I see are in sped, bilingual, math and science. It's these folks who need to be paid more. If private sector people come in qualified to teach these areas, they should get more pay (along with all the people already there).
And speaking of experience that doesn't count, districts balance their budgets on teachers' backs all the time. I should be paid for 25 years of experience. Instead, because I have changed districts, I get paid for 15 years experience. This means I am underpaid by about 25K. I have thought a lot about leaving. But reality is that I am 6-10 years from being able to retire and damn it, I am going to get my full pension if it kills me. Other people don't have my staying power and they are leaving. It would make sense to pay people like me, who have moved districts, for every year we've worked.

There is no way 90% are within those disciplines. I just looked and there are almost 140 postings for grades 1-6 (gen ed and AAP)

agree it's across the board

It’s easier for the average parent if they think it won’t have an impact on their kid’s classroom. It absolutely might

I feel fortunate knowing who my kid’s teacher is (Local Level 4) and that they are definitely coming back. I feel bad for any child that doesn’t have a full time teacher in August. 😢

I do, too, but that Eagle View recruitment page makes me realize why they are losing ES teachers. I never thought teaching kids could be made to seem so utterly JOYLESS. Growth mindset? Continued quality professional development? Presume positivity toward change? Jesus. What a weird combination of what sounds like financial management jargon and self-help lingo.

Do you strive to be a lifelong learner and participate in continued quality professional development that informs and enhances your practice? = You will be expected to give up your unencumbered planning time to meet with your team. Planning and grading will be done on your own time.

Do you believe in building strong relationships and trust with students and families? = When a student has difficulty following rules and expectations, fault will lie with the teacher.

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I teach at a school which typically has very few (or none at all!) openings. This year is a different story.

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Anonymous wrote:If you career-switch to become a teacher - and the field needs these people more than ever because of teacher exodus - work experience in other fields does not "count" in the pay scale and you're paid as a first year teacher. I speak from experience...I have 15 years of experience in international trade and 2 Master's degrees (counting the one I studied for and paid for in secondary education) yet am paid as a second year teacher. This only works because my spouse makes quite a bit more than me AND we're willing to live simply. Push SB for some sort of equivalency for those coming to teaching from other professions and more people might be interested/financially able.

90% of all the openings I see are in sped, bilingual, math and science. It's these folks who need to be paid more. If private sector people come in qualified to teach these areas, they should get more pay (along with all the people already there).
And speaking of experience that doesn't count, districts balance their budgets on teachers' backs all the time. I should be paid for 25 years of experience. Instead, because I have changed districts, I get paid for 15 years experience. This means I am underpaid by about 25K. I have thought a lot about leaving. But reality is that I am 6-10 years from being able to retire and damn it, I am going to get my full pension if it kills me. Other people don't have my staying power and they are leaving. It would make sense to pay people like me, who have moved districts, for every year we've worked.

There is no way 90% are within those disciplines. I just looked and there are almost 140 postings for grades 1-6 (gen ed and AAP)

agree it's across the board

It’s easier for the average parent if they think it won’t have an impact on their kid’s classroom. It absolutely might

I feel fortunate knowing who my kid’s teacher is (Local Level 4) and that they are definitely coming back. I feel bad for any child that doesn’t have a full time teacher in August. 😢

I do, too, but that Eagle View recruitment page makes me realize why they are losing ES teachers. I never thought teaching kids could be made to seem so utterly JOYLESS. Growth mindset? Continued quality professional development? Presume positivity toward change? Jesus. What a weird combination of what sounds like financial management jargon and self-help lingo.

Do you strive to be a lifelong learner and participate in continued quality professional development that informs and enhances your practice? = You will be expected to give up your unencumbered planning time to meet with your team. Planning and grading will be done on your own time.

Do you believe in building strong relationships and trust with students and families? = When a student has difficulty following rules and expectations, fault will lie with the teacher.

So true. I have a fixed mindset and I’ve come to terms with it. It’s fine.

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Anonymous wrote:If you career-switch to become a teacher - and the field needs these people more than ever because of teacher exodus - work experience in other fields does not "count" in the pay scale and you're paid as a first year teacher. I speak from experience...I have 15 years of experience in international trade and 2 Master's degrees (counting the one I studied for and paid for in secondary education) yet am paid as a second year teacher. This only works because my spouse makes quite a bit more than me AND we're willing to live simply. Push SB for some sort of equivalency for those coming to teaching from other professions and more people might be interested/financially able.

90% of all the openings I see are in sped, bilingual, math and science. It's these folks who need to be paid more. If private sector people come in qualified to teach these areas, they should get more pay (along with all the people already there).
And speaking of experience that doesn't count, districts balance their budgets on teachers' backs all the time. I should be paid for 25 years of experience. Instead, because I have changed districts, I get paid for 15 years experience. This means I am underpaid by about 25K. I have thought a lot about leaving. But reality is that I am 6-10 years from being able to retire and damn it, I am going to get my full pension if it kills me. Other people don't have my staying power and they are leaving. It would make sense to pay people like me, who have moved districts, for every year we've worked.

There is no way 90% are within those disciplines. I just looked and there are almost 140 postings for grades 1-6 (gen ed and AAP)

agree it's across the board

It’s easier for the average parent if they think it won’t have an impact on their kid’s classroom. It absolutely might

I feel fortunate knowing who my kid’s teacher is (Local Level 4) and that they are definitely coming back. I feel bad for any child that doesn’t have a full time teacher in August. 😢

I do, too, but that Eagle View recruitment page makes me realize why they are losing ES teachers. I never thought teaching kids could be made to seem so utterly JOYLESS. Growth mindset? Continued quality professional development? Presume positivity toward change? Jesus. What a weird combination of what sounds like financial management jargon and self-help lingo.

Some schools want everyone on the team doing the same exact thing, teachers have different strengths/interests and should not be forced to do the same thing as everyone else. I would never teach at a school that expects me to teach like a robot.

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Anonymous wrote:If you career-switch to become a teacher - and the field needs these people more than ever because of teacher exodus - work experience in other fields does not "count" in the pay scale and you're paid as a first year teacher. I speak from experience...I have 15 years of experience in international trade and 2 Master's degrees (counting the one I studied for and paid for in secondary education) yet am paid as a second year teacher. This only works because my spouse makes quite a bit more than me AND we're willing to live simply. Push SB for some sort of equivalency for those coming to teaching from other professions and more people might be interested/financially able.

90% of all the openings I see are in sped, bilingual, math and science. It's these folks who need to be paid more. If private sector people come in qualified to teach these areas, they should get more pay (along with all the people already there).
And speaking of experience that doesn't count, districts balance their budgets on teachers' backs all the time. I should be paid for 25 years of experience. Instead, because I have changed districts, I get paid for 15 years experience. This means I am underpaid by about 25K. I have thought a lot about leaving. But reality is that I am 6-10 years from being able to retire and damn it, I am going to get my full pension if it kills me. Other people don't have my staying power and they are leaving. It would make sense to pay people like me, who have moved districts, for every year we've worked.

There is no way 90% are within those disciplines. I just looked and there are almost 140 postings for grades 1-6 (gen ed and AAP)

agree it's across the board

It’s easier for the average parent if they think it won’t have an impact on their kid’s classroom. It absolutely might

I feel fortunate knowing who my kid’s teacher is (Local Level 4) and that they are definitely coming back. I feel bad for any child that doesn’t have a full time teacher in August. 😢

I do, too, but that Eagle View recruitment page makes me realize why they are losing ES teachers. I never thought teaching kids could be made to seem so utterly JOYLESS. Growth mindset? Continued quality professional development? Presume positivity toward change? Jesus. What a weird combination of what sounds like financial management jargon and self-help lingo.

Some schools want everyone on the team doing the same exact thing, teachers have different strengths/interests and should not be forced to do the same thing as everyone else. I would never teach at a school that expects me to teach like a robot.

The same thing at the same time. My team was called out a few years ago when an area principal came through and we weren’t all doing the same subject. I think I was finishing up one and was about 10 minutes late starting the next on that day. Tsk, tsk.

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Anonymous wrote:If you career-switch to become a teacher - and the field needs these people more than ever because of teacher exodus - work experience in other fields does not "count" in the pay scale and you're paid as a first year teacher. I speak from experience...I have 15 years of experience in international trade and 2 Master's degrees (counting the one I studied for and paid for in secondary education) yet am paid as a second year teacher. This only works because my spouse makes quite a bit more than me AND we're willing to live simply. Push SB for some sort of equivalency for those coming to teaching from other professions and more people might be interested/financially able.

90% of all the openings I see are in sped, bilingual, math and science. It's these folks who need to be paid more. If private sector people come in qualified to teach these areas, they should get more pay (along with all the people already there).
And speaking of experience that doesn't count, districts balance their budgets on teachers' backs all the time. I should be paid for 25 years of experience. Instead, because I have changed districts, I get paid for 15 years experience. This means I am underpaid by about 25K. I have thought a lot about leaving. But reality is that I am 6-10 years from being able to retire and damn it, I am going to get my full pension if it kills me. Other people don't have my staying power and they are leaving. It would make sense to pay people like me, who have moved districts, for every year we've worked.

There is no way 90% are within those disciplines. I just looked and there are almost 140 postings for grades 1-6 (gen ed and AAP)

agree it's across the board

It’s easier for the average parent if they think it won’t have an impact on their kid’s classroom. It absolutely might

I feel fortunate knowing who my kid’s teacher is (Local Level 4) and that they are definitely coming back. I feel bad for any child that doesn’t have a full time teacher in August. 😢

I do, too, but that Eagle View recruitment page makes me realize why they are losing ES teachers. I never thought teaching kids could be made to seem so utterly JOYLESS. Growth mindset? Continued quality professional development? Presume positivity toward change? Jesus. What a weird combination of what sounds like financial management jargon and self-help lingo.

Do you strive to be a lifelong learner and participate in continued quality professional development that informs and enhances your practice? = You will be expected to give up your unencumbered planning time to meet with your team. Planning and grading will be done on your own time.

Do you believe in building strong relationships and trust with students and families? = When a student has difficulty following rules and expectations, fault will lie with the teacher.

+1. Basically you can expect a bunch of time-suck PD and team building activities and you better not expect much support with disruptive students in your classroom.

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Anonymous wrote:If you career-switch to become a teacher - and the field needs these people more than ever because of teacher exodus - work experience in other fields does not "count" in the pay scale and you're paid as a first year teacher. I speak from experience...I have 15 years of experience in international trade and 2 Master's degrees (counting the one I studied for and paid for in secondary education) yet am paid as a second year teacher. This only works because my spouse makes quite a bit more than me AND we're willing to live simply. Push SB for some sort of equivalency for those coming to teaching from other professions and more people might be interested/financially able.

90% of all the openings I see are in sped, bilingual, math and science. It's these folks who need to be paid more. If private sector people come in qualified to teach these areas, they should get more pay (along with all the people already there).
And speaking of experience that doesn't count, districts balance their budgets on teachers' backs all the time. I should be paid for 25 years of experience. Instead, because I have changed districts, I get paid for 15 years experience. This means I am underpaid by about 25K. I have thought a lot about leaving. But reality is that I am 6-10 years from being able to retire and damn it, I am going to get my full pension if it kills me. Other people don't have my staying power and they are leaving. It would make sense to pay people like me, who have moved districts, for every year we've worked.

There is no way 90% are within those disciplines. I just looked and there are almost 140 postings for grades 1-6 (gen ed and AAP)

agree it's across the board

It’s easier for the average parent if they think it won’t have an impact on their kid’s classroom. It absolutely might

I feel fortunate knowing who my kid’s teacher is (Local Level 4) and that they are definitely coming back. I feel bad for any child that doesn’t have a full time teacher in August. 😢

I do, too, but that Eagle View recruitment page makes me realize why they are losing ES teachers. I never thought teaching kids could be made to seem so utterly JOYLESS. Growth mindset? Continued quality professional development? Presume positivity toward change? Jesus. What a weird combination of what sounds like financial management jargon and self-help lingo.

Some schools want everyone on the team doing the same exact thing, teachers have different strengths/interests and should not be forced to do the same thing as everyone else. I would never teach at a school that expects me to teach like a robot.

The same thing at the same time. My team was called out a few years ago when an area principal came through and we weren’t all doing the same subject. I think I was finishing up one and was about 10 minutes late starting the next on that day. Tsk, tsk.

I left a school about 7 years ago for this reason (and a few others). It’s so stupid.

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Anonymous wrote:If you career-switch to become a teacher - and the field needs these people more than ever because of teacher exodus - work experience in other fields does not "count" in the pay scale and you're paid as a first year teacher. I speak from experience...I have 15 years of experience in international trade and 2 Master's degrees (counting the one I studied for and paid for in secondary education) yet am paid as a second year teacher. This only works because my spouse makes quite a bit more than me AND we're willing to live simply. Push SB for some sort of equivalency for those coming to teaching from other professions and more people might be interested/financially able.

90% of all the openings I see are in sped, bilingual, math and science. It's these folks who need to be paid more. If private sector people come in qualified to teach these areas, they should get more pay (along with all the people already there).
And speaking of experience that doesn't count, districts balance their budgets on teachers' backs all the time. I should be paid for 25 years of experience. Instead, because I have changed districts, I get paid for 15 years experience. This means I am underpaid by about 25K. I have thought a lot about leaving. But reality is that I am 6-10 years from being able to retire and damn it, I am going to get my full pension if it kills me. Other people don't have my staying power and they are leaving. It would make sense to pay people like me, who have moved districts, for every year we've worked.

There is no way 90% are within those disciplines. I just looked and there are almost 140 postings for grades 1-6 (gen ed and AAP)

agree it's across the board

It’s easier for the average parent if they think it won’t have an impact on their kid’s classroom. It absolutely might

I feel fortunate knowing who my kid’s teacher is (Local Level 4) and that they are definitely coming back. I feel bad for any child that doesn’t have a full time teacher in August. 😢

I do, too, but that Eagle View recruitment page makes me realize why they are losing ES teachers. I never thought teaching kids could be made to seem so utterly JOYLESS. Growth mindset? Continued quality professional development? Presume positivity toward change? Jesus. What a weird combination of what sounds like financial management jargon and self-help lingo.

Do you strive to be a lifelong learner and participate in continued quality professional development that informs and enhances your practice? = You will be expected to give up your unencumbered planning time to meet with your team. Planning and grading will be done on your own time.

Do you believe in building strong relationships and trust with students and families? = When a student has difficulty following rules and expectations, fault will lie with the teacher.

Shhh. Don’t tip off the administration.