I'm a rationale conservative - can you convince me voting rights legislation is needed?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't even see the issue with ballot harvesting, as it is described here. Are there illegal votes? No? Then what is the problem?

It is ripe for voter fraud.

Read: https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2021/01/26/san-antonio-campaign-worker-traded-gift-bags-for-ballot-changes-investigators-say/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't even see the issue with ballot harvesting, as it is described here. Are there illegal votes? No? Then what is the problem?

It is ripe for voter fraud.

Read: https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2021/01/26/san-antonio-campaign-worker-traded-gift-bags-for-ballot-changes-investigators-say/

But is there actual voter fraud?

There are a lot of things that are ripe, but don't happen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't even see the issue with ballot harvesting, as it is described here. Are there illegal votes? No? Then what is the problem?

It is ripe for voter fraud.

Read: https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2021/01/26/san-antonio-campaign-worker-traded-gift-bags-for-ballot-changes-investigators-say/

But is there actual voter fraud?

There are a lot of things that are ripe, but don't happen.

Just Republican voters committing voter fraud, but they all got caught. So no.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't even see the issue with ballot harvesting, as it is described here. Are there illegal votes? No? Then what is the problem?

It is ripe for voter fraud.

Read: https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2021/01/26/san-antonio-campaign-worker-traded-gift-bags-for-ballot-changes-investigators-say/

But is there actual voter fraud?

There are a lot of things that are ripe, but don't happen.

It happened in San Antonio. Problem is.... with this practice being legal in some states, we really have no idea how many similar instances happen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't even see the issue with ballot harvesting, as it is described here. Are there illegal votes? No? Then what is the problem?

It is ripe for voter fraud.

Read: https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2021/01/26/san-antonio-campaign-worker-traded-gift-bags-for-ballot-changes-investigators-say/

But is there actual voter fraud?

There are a lot of things that are ripe, but don't happen.

It would be very difficult maybe impossible to ever know. But wouldn’t it make sense to eliminate practices that are obviously ripe for abuse?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't even see the issue with ballot harvesting, as it is described here. Are there illegal votes? No? Then what is the problem?

It is ripe for voter fraud.

Read: https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2021/01/26/san-antonio-campaign-worker-traded-gift-bags-for-ballot-changes-investigators-say/

But is there actual voter fraud?

There are a lot of things that are ripe, but don't happen.

They want to stop organized Democratic efforts to turn out black votes, but not the Republican organized efforts in nursing homes, evangelical churches, etc. They are writing laws with the knowledge that local officials know who to selectively target for enforcement. This is how poll taxes and literacy tests and all the other Jim Crow shit worked. They didn’t explicitly say blacks can’t vote, they set up barriers that were only enforced against blacks. This is the same shit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't even see the issue with ballot harvesting, as it is described here. Are there illegal votes? No? Then what is the problem?

It is ripe for voter fraud.

Read: https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2021/01/26/san-antonio-campaign-worker-traded-gift-bags-for-ballot-changes-investigators-say/

But is there actual voter fraud?

There are a lot of things that are ripe, but don't happen.

They want to stop organized Democratic efforts to turn out black votes, but not the Republican organized efforts in nursing homes, evangelical churches, etc. They are writing laws with the knowledge that local officials know who to selectively target for enforcement. This is how poll taxes and literacy tests and all the other Jim Crow shit worked. They didn’t explicitly say blacks can’t vote, they set up barriers that were only enforced against blacks. This is the same shit.

+1
And no Republicans oppose it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't even see the issue with ballot harvesting, as it is described here. Are there illegal votes? No? Then what is the problem?

It is ripe for voter fraud.

Read: https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2021/01/26/san-antonio-campaign-worker-traded-gift-bags-for-ballot-changes-investigators-say/

But is there actual voter fraud?

There are a lot of things that are ripe, but don't happen.

They want to stop organized Democratic efforts to turn out black votes, but not the Republican organized efforts in nursing homes, evangelical churches, etc. They are writing laws with the knowledge that local officials know who to selectively target for enforcement. This is how poll taxes and literacy tests and all the other Jim Crow shit worked. They didn’t explicitly say blacks can’t vote, they set up barriers that were only enforced against blacks. This is the same shit.

Just stop with your crap.

Trying to tie GA, or any other state to "Jim Crow" is insane. And, one of the reasons Biden got 4 Pinocchios for making such a claim.
Just stop with the race baiting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't even see the issue with ballot harvesting, as it is described here. Are there illegal votes? No? Then what is the problem?

It is ripe for voter fraud.

Read: https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2021/01/26/san-antonio-campaign-worker-traded-gift-bags-for-ballot-changes-investigators-say/

But is there actual voter fraud?

There are a lot of things that are ripe, but don't happen.

They want to stop organized Democratic efforts to turn out black votes, but not the Republican organized efforts in nursing homes, evangelical churches, etc. They are writing laws with the knowledge that local officials know who to selectively target for enforcement. This is how poll taxes and literacy tests and all the other Jim Crow shit worked. They didn’t explicitly say blacks can’t vote, they set up barriers that were only enforced against blacks. This is the same shit.

+1
And no Republicans oppose it.

So, just Black votes are targeted? Yea

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't even see the issue with ballot harvesting, as it is described here. Are there illegal votes? No? Then what is the problem?

It is ripe for voter fraud.

Read: https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2021/01/26/san-antonio-campaign-worker-traded-gift-bags-for-ballot-changes-investigators-say/

But is there actual voter fraud?

There are a lot of things that are ripe, but don't happen.

They want to stop organized Democratic efforts to turn out black votes, but not the Republican organized efforts in nursing homes, evangelical churches, etc. They are writing laws with the knowledge that local officials know who to selectively target for enforcement. This is how poll taxes and literacy tests and all the other Jim Crow shit worked. They didn’t explicitly say blacks can’t vote, they set up barriers that were only enforced against blacks. This is the same shit.

+1
And no Republicans oppose it.

So, just Black votes are targeted? Yea

Disproportionately, yes. Hispanics also. College students also. You know that is how it will be enforced. That’s why you support it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't even see the issue with ballot harvesting, as it is described here. Are there illegal votes? No? Then what is the problem?

It is ripe for voter fraud.

Read: https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2021/01/26/san-antonio-campaign-worker-traded-gift-bags-for-ballot-changes-investigators-say/

But is there actual voter fraud?

There are a lot of things that are ripe, but don't happen.

They want to stop organized Democratic efforts to turn out black votes, but not the Republican organized efforts in nursing homes, evangelical churches, etc. They are writing laws with the knowledge that local officials know who to selectively target for enforcement. This is how poll taxes and literacy tests and all the other Jim Crow shit worked. They didn’t explicitly say blacks can’t vote, they set up barriers that were only enforced against blacks. This is the same shit.

Just stop with your crap.

Trying to tie GA, or any other state to "Jim Crow" is insane. And, one of the reasons Biden got 4 Pinocchios for making such a claim.
Just stop with the race baiting.

The Georgia election law changes are targeted to fix one “problem” for Republicans: Too many black people voted in metro Atlanta in 2020.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't even see the issue with ballot harvesting, as it is described here. Are there illegal votes? No? Then what is the problem?

It is ripe for voter fraud.

Read: https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2021/01/26/san-antonio-campaign-worker-traded-gift-bags-for-ballot-changes-investigators-say/

But is there actual voter fraud?

There are a lot of things that are ripe, but don't happen.

They want to stop organized Democratic efforts to turn out black votes, but not the Republican organized efforts in nursing homes, evangelical churches, etc. They are writing laws with the knowledge that local officials know who to selectively target for enforcement. This is how poll taxes and literacy tests and all the other Jim Crow shit worked. They didn’t explicitly say blacks can’t vote, they set up barriers that were only enforced against blacks. This is the same shit.

Just stop with your crap.

Trying to tie GA, or any other state to "Jim Crow" is insane. And, one of the reasons Biden got 4 Pinocchios for making such a claim.
Just stop with the race baiting.

The Georgia election law changes are targeted to fix one “problem” for Republicans: Too many black people voted in metro Atlanta in 2020.

By extending early voting and by adding drop boxes - which were never used in GA prior to 2020?
Sure. How are they restricting black people from voting?.... and don't say they can't drink water.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't even see the issue with ballot harvesting, as it is described here. Are there illegal votes? No? Then what is the problem?

It is ripe for voter fraud.

Read: https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2021/01/26/san-antonio-campaign-worker-traded-gift-bags-for-ballot-changes-investigators-say/

But is there actual voter fraud?

There are a lot of things that are ripe, but don't happen.

They want to stop organized Democratic efforts to turn out black votes, but not the Republican organized efforts in nursing homes, evangelical churches, etc. They are writing laws with the knowledge that local officials know who to selectively target for enforcement. This is how poll taxes and literacy tests and all the other Jim Crow shit worked. They didn’t explicitly say blacks can’t vote, they set up barriers that were only enforced against blacks. This is the same shit.

+1
And no Republicans oppose it.

So, just Black votes are targeted? Yea

Disproportionately, yes. Hispanics also. College students also. You know that is how it will be enforced. That’s why you support it.

You have no idea what I support. But let me tell you that I don’t support your race baiting - did not work for Biden this week either. Bring your own snacks and water and figure out how to get to your polling place or get an absentee ballot. In this day and age - it is not hard. The spoon feeding that is demanded should be insulting. If a college kid can’t figure out voting - maybe college is not the place to be.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't even see the issue with ballot harvesting, as it is described here. Are there illegal votes? No? Then what is the problem?

It is ripe for voter fraud.

Read: https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2021/01/26/san-antonio-campaign-worker-traded-gift-bags-for-ballot-changes-investigators-say/

But is there actual voter fraud?

There are a lot of things that are ripe, but don't happen.

They want to stop organized Democratic efforts to turn out black votes, but not the Republican organized efforts in nursing homes, evangelical churches, etc. They are writing laws with the knowledge that local officials know who to selectively target for enforcement. This is how poll taxes and literacy tests and all the other Jim Crow shit worked. They didn’t explicitly say blacks can’t vote, they set up barriers that were only enforced against blacks. This is the same shit.

+1
And no Republicans oppose it.

So, just Black votes are targeted? Yea

Disproportionately, yes. Hispanics also. College students also. You know that is how it will be enforced. That’s why you support it.

You have no idea what I support. But let me tell you that I don’t support your race baiting - did not work for Biden this week either. Bring your own snacks and water and figure out how to get to your polling place or get an absentee ballot. In this day and age - it is not hard. The spoon feeding that is demanded should be insulting. If a college kid can’t figure out voting - maybe college is not the place to be.

Easy to say when you can probably stroll into a polling place within walking distance of your home or office with a short line during your employer provided paid time off.

I guarantee you wouldn't be saying that if you were a working class black person whose polling place was shut down by the GOP and are forced to make the choice of taking half a day of unpaid time off to stand in an hours-long line to vote, then since you needed every penny of your paycheck, making the choice to miss rent or not eat for a few days.

The privilege of "it's not that hard" is sickening. It's not that hard for you. The whole endgame of the GOP voter suppression machine is literally to make it that hard for the demographics they don't want voting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not a Trumper here. I agree that Gerrymandering is bad and ideally would not happen. Clearly it's a problem with both parties.

Honestly, I don't buy the voter suppression and "democracy at stake" hyperbole. Anyone that wants to vote can vote, right? Yes, it might be inconvenient for some based on their work schedule, but that's always been the case. And In most places you can already vote by mail.

When I hear that democracy is at stake, I tune out because it's a huge exaggeration in my mind.

I'm open to argument, though. Can you change my mind?

Clearly you are a moron.

No one can look at the GOP and say they aren’t the party of no voting rights

Why the hell do you think Elias is winning in court?

Pay attention or don’t you will lose more than I will. My family will be more than fine it’s the trumpy idiots who will lose everything and I mean everything.

Mark my words America is dying and the cult members are going to be in for a huge surprise no jobs censoring women no rights no jobs fun times

You all love Putin in theses threads