Lia Thomas - Will this change college sports for women or a nothingburger?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I like how even the PP calling everyone anti-trans realizes Lia’s behavior is indefensible, and has thus pivoted to “no one cares about swimming anyway”.

The "swimmers don't even know their own teammates" take is literally crazy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Swimmers know basic times they want to swim. What they are shooting to hit. It’s like weightlifting. It doesn’t matter what a competitor does, it is what you can do. Can you beat x? If you work hard on your turns could you shave another y seconds off your time? Whether Mary beats you be 5 seconds or 7 seconds is not important. Whether you swam your best and improved is important.

So - no - swimmers do not know opponents on other teams - unless the won a medal in the Olympics.

You have got to be kidding me. You are clueless.

You have zero knowledge. College swimmers barely know the names of the swimmers on their own team. They don’t hang out. If they are not swimming relays together they likely wont even say “hi” if they saw each other walking on campus. And you think they know swimmers for other schools?

You are insanely ignorant. Please just stope embarrassing yourself.

[Anonymous]

Anyone who thinks college swimmers, or college athletes in any sport, hang with more than a handful of their teammates has no clue about college athletics. That’s frankly hilarious.

The times they know are the times they need to hit - to keep their lane, to stay in an event, to qualify for a final, a meet or a trial. What anyone else does - they do. It’s one of the things about timed sports.

Did you think it’s about “the team”? It’s way, way, way too much work to be about “the team”. A coach will enter whoever is swimming the best times in practice. Don’t swim well? See ya.

The athletes do the same thing now as well. There’s going to be 20-30 college football players who do not dress for bowl games. Why? Don’t want to risk getting hurt or doing something that hurts their draft position. My undergrad Alma mater is playing in a bowl this year and both schools have their two best players sitting. It’s now basically the Spring game. But, no one would pay them $10M if they got hurt so they sit. That’s how the game is played.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anyone who thinks college swimmers, or college athletes in any sport, hang with more than a handful of their teammates has no clue about college athletics. That’s frankly hilarious.

The times they know are the times they need to hit - to keep their lane, to stay in an event, to qualify for a final, a meet or a trial. What anyone else does - they do. It’s one of the things about timed sports.

Did you think it’s about “the team”? It’s way, way, way too much work to be about “the team”. A coach will enter whoever is swimming the best times in practice. Don’t swim well? See ya.

The athletes do the same thing now as well. There’s going to be 20-30 college football players who do not dress for bowl games. Why? Don’t want to risk getting hurt or doing something that hurts their draft position. My undergrad Alma mater is playing in a bowl this year and both schools have their two best players sitting. It’s now basically the Spring game. But, no one would pay them $10M if they got hurt so they sit. That’s how the game is played.

Wtf does this rant have to do with the unfairness of a male-bodied person competing in female sports?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anyone who thinks college swimmers, or college athletes in any sport, hang with more than a handful of their teammates has no clue about college athletics. That’s frankly hilarious.

The times they know are the times they need to hit - to keep their lane, to stay in an event, to qualify for a final, a meet or a trial. What anyone else does - they do. It’s one of the things about timed sports.

Did you think it’s about “the team”? It’s way, way, way too much work to be about “the team”. A coach will enter whoever is swimming the best times in practice. Don’t swim well? See ya.

The athletes do the same thing now as well. There’s going to be 20-30 college football players who do not dress for bowl games. Why? Don’t want to risk getting hurt or doing something that hurts their draft position. My undergrad Alma mater is playing in a bowl this year and both schools have their two best players sitting. It’s now basically the Spring game. But, no one would pay them $10M if they got hurt so they sit. That’s how the game is played.

Keep digging your heels in PP. Your posts get more and more amusing as the day rolls on. I’ll have sore abs at the end of the day from laughing so hard at this rate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone who thinks college swimmers, or college athletes in any sport, hang with more than a handful of their teammates has no clue about college athletics. That’s frankly hilarious.

The times they know are the times they need to hit - to keep their lane, to stay in an event, to qualify for a final, a meet or a trial. What anyone else does - they do. It’s one of the things about timed sports.

Did you think it’s about “the team”? It’s way, way, way too much work to be about “the team”. A coach will enter whoever is swimming the best times in practice. Don’t swim well? See ya.

The athletes do the same thing now as well. There’s going to be 20-30 college football players who do not dress for bowl games. Why? Don’t want to risk getting hurt or doing something that hurts their draft position. My undergrad Alma mater is playing in a bowl this year and both schools have their two best players sitting. It’s now basically the Spring game. But, no one would pay them $10M if they got hurt so they sit. That’s how the game is played.

Keep digging your heels in PP. Your posts get more and more amusing as the day rolls on. I’ll have sore abs at the end of the day from laughing so hard at this rate.

Give it up. Obvious you know nothing about sports above a little kid level. Go pout about the men’s basketball team sitting for the anthem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Swimmers know basic times they want to swim. What they are shooting to hit. It’s like weightlifting. It doesn’t matter what a competitor does, it is what you can do. Can you beat x? If you work hard on your turns could you shave another y seconds off your time? Whether Mary beats you be 5 seconds or 7 seconds is not important. Whether you swam your best and improved is important.

So - no - swimmers do not know opponents on other teams - unless the won a medal in the Olympics.


Maybe if you are 10. My DD is a top swimmer in her events in the region, she could easily name the to 10 girls in her event with a high percentage of accuracy. You either don’t know anything about swimming or don’t know anything about elite HS age swimming. A huge number of kids swim. The same 10-15 swim at finals in the most competitive meets in any given event.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone who thinks college swimmers, or college athletes in any sport, hang with more than a handful of their teammates has no clue about college athletics. That’s frankly hilarious.

The times they know are the times they need to hit - to keep their lane, to stay in an event, to qualify for a final, a meet or a trial. What anyone else does - they do. It’s one of the things about timed sports.

Did you think it’s about “the team”? It’s way, way, way too much work to be about “the team”. A coach will enter whoever is swimming the best times in practice. Don’t swim well? See ya.

The athletes do the same thing now as well. There’s going to be 20-30 college football players who do not dress for bowl games. Why? Don’t want to risk getting hurt or doing something that hurts their draft position. My undergrad Alma mater is playing in a bowl this year and both schools have their two best players sitting. It’s now basically the Spring game. But, no one would pay them $10M if they got hurt so they sit. That’s how the game is played.

Keep digging your heels in PP. Your posts get more and more amusing as the day rolls on. I’ll have sore abs at the end of the day from laughing so hard at this rate.

Give it up. Obvious you know nothing about sports above a little kid level. Go pout about the men’s basketball team sitting for the anthem.

What is wrong with you? Mad that women won’t just sit down and shut up about getting shut out of their own sports programs?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone who thinks college swimmers, or college athletes in any sport, hang with more than a handful of their teammates has no clue about college athletics. That’s frankly hilarious.

The times they know are the times they need to hit - to keep their lane, to stay in an event, to qualify for a final, a meet or a trial. What anyone else does - they do. It’s one of the things about timed sports.

Did you think it’s about “the team”? It’s way, way, way too much work to be about “the team”. A coach will enter whoever is swimming the best times in practice. Don’t swim well? See ya.

The athletes do the same thing now as well. There’s going to be 20-30 college football players who do not dress for bowl games. Why? Don’t want to risk getting hurt or doing something that hurts their draft position. My undergrad Alma mater is playing in a bowl this year and both schools have their two best players sitting. It’s now basically the Spring game. But, no one would pay them $10M if they got hurt so they sit. That’s how the game is played.

Keep digging your heels in PP. Your posts get more and more amusing as the day rolls on. I’ll have sore abs at the end of the day from laughing so hard at this rate.

Give it up. Obvious you know nothing about sports above a little kid level. Go pout about the men’s basketball team sitting for the anthem.

What is wrong with you? Mad that women won’t just sit down and shut up about getting shut out of their own sports programs?

I think it’s just one clueless person posting over and over about how athletes don’t know their teammates, and all that matters in swim is your personal times. As for what’s wrong with her, well, god only knows where to start with that one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone who thinks college swimmers, or college athletes in any sport, hang with more than a handful of their teammates has no clue about college athletics. That’s frankly hilarious.

The times they know are the times they need to hit - to keep their lane, to stay in an event, to qualify for a final, a meet or a trial. What anyone else does - they do. It’s one of the things about timed sports.

Did you think it’s about “the team”? It’s way, way, way too much work to be about “the team”. A coach will enter whoever is swimming the best times in practice. Don’t swim well? See ya.

The athletes do the same thing now as well. There’s going to be 20-30 college football players who do not dress for bowl games. Why? Don’t want to risk getting hurt or doing something that hurts their draft position. My undergrad Alma mater is playing in a bowl this year and both schools have their two best players sitting. It’s now basically the Spring game. But, no one would pay them $10M if they got hurt so they sit. That’s how the game is played.

Keep digging your heels in PP. Your posts get more and more amusing as the day rolls on. I’ll have sore abs at the end of the day from laughing so hard at this rate.

Give it up. Obvious you know nothing about sports above a little kid level. Go pout about the men’s basketball team sitting for the anthem.

Oooh you got me there!
Not really. My 15 yo competitive swimmer would beg to differ. I mean, how could she possibly know as much as you do?!?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone who thinks college swimmers, or college athletes in any sport, hang with more than a handful of their teammates has no clue about college athletics. That’s frankly hilarious.

The times they know are the times they need to hit - to keep their lane, to stay in an event, to qualify for a final, a meet or a trial. What anyone else does - they do. It’s one of the things about timed sports.

Did you think it’s about “the team”? It’s way, way, way too much work to be about “the team”. A coach will enter whoever is swimming the best times in practice. Don’t swim well? See ya.

The athletes do the same thing now as well. There’s going to be 20-30 college football players who do not dress for bowl games. Why? Don’t want to risk getting hurt or doing something that hurts their draft position. My undergrad Alma mater is playing in a bowl this year and both schools have their two best players sitting. It’s now basically the Spring game. But, no one would pay them $10M if they got hurt so they sit. That’s how the game is played.

Keep digging your heels in PP. Your posts get more and more amusing as the day rolls on. I’ll have sore abs at the end of the day from laughing so hard at this rate.

Give it up. Obvious you know nothing about sports above a little kid level. Go pout about the men’s basketball team sitting for the anthem.

Oooh you got me there!
Not really. My 15 yo competitive swimmer would beg to differ. I mean, how could she possibly know as much as you do?!?

She doesn’t. Nor should she. She’s a kid. Step into college swim (or any college sport for that matter) and things are immediately very very different. The athlete works for the coach and the school. Your kid, if they swim in college, needs to follow the team rules, do well academically, shut up and never complain, and consistently improve. Virginia won the NCAAs last year. They have 4 Seniors on this years team. Go back 4 years. How many freshman started off? Nine. And, that’s a pretty good attrition rate. It’s worse in lots of competitive programs. Though most coaches will shoot for 50% over time.

My oldest daughter played 4 years of college soccer. She was one of the survivors. She won the Coaches Award her Junior and Senior years representing team leadership. She well tell that in 4 years of playing, the head coach maybe spoke directly to her less than 30 minutes. That’s counting during games, as well as before and after games. During practices, before and after practices. On road trips. In PT. In the weightroom. Wherever. As a parent, you can say “hey coach who is it going”, if you happen to run into him/her and that is about it. With the younger one swimming now it is the same, but she has the advantage of having an older sister who played a sport in college.

So - older teammates want your kid to help the team, as long as their role does not hurt them. Every athlete will first, second and third want to compete. That is way more important than the team winning. It’s great to win, and losing will mean changes that could very well mean less chance to swim/play/race. But, if it were to come down to a choice between the team winning the game or meet, or them playing/swimming they will choose playing/swimming every single time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone who thinks college swimmers, or college athletes in any sport, hang with more than a handful of their teammates has no clue about college athletics. That’s frankly hilarious.

The times they know are the times they need to hit - to keep their lane, to stay in an event, to qualify for a final, a meet or a trial. What anyone else does - they do. It’s one of the things about timed sports.

Did you think it’s about “the team”? It’s way, way, way too much work to be about “the team”. A coach will enter whoever is swimming the best times in practice. Don’t swim well? See ya.

The athletes do the same thing now as well. There’s going to be 20-30 college football players who do not dress for bowl games. Why? Don’t want to risk getting hurt or doing something that hurts their draft position. My undergrad Alma mater is playing in a bowl this year and both schools have their two best players sitting. It’s now basically the Spring game. But, no one would pay them $10M if they got hurt so they sit. That’s how the game is played.

Keep digging your heels in PP. Your posts get more and more amusing as the day rolls on. I’ll have sore abs at the end of the day from laughing so hard at this rate.

Give it up. Obvious you know nothing about sports above a little kid level. Go pout about the men’s basketball team sitting for the anthem.

Oooh you got me there!
Not really. My 15 yo competitive swimmer would beg to differ. I mean, how could she possibly know as much as you do?!?

She doesn’t. Nor should she. She’s a kid. Step into college swim (or any college sport for that matter) and things are immediately very very different. The athlete works for the coach and the school. Your kid, if they swim in college, needs to follow the team rules, do well academically, shut up and never complain, and consistently improve. Virginia won the NCAAs last year. They have 4 Seniors on this years team. Go back 4 years. How many freshman started off? Nine. And, that’s a pretty good attrition rate. It’s worse in lots of competitive programs. Though most coaches will shoot for 50% over time.

My oldest daughter played 4 years of college soccer. She was one of the survivors. She won the Coaches Award her Junior and Senior years representing team leadership. She well tell that in 4 years of playing, the head coach maybe spoke directly to her less than 30 minutes. That’s counting during games, as well as before and after games. During practices, before and after practices. On road trips. In PT. In the weightroom. Wherever. As a parent, you can say “hey coach who is it going”, if you happen to run into him/her and that is about it. With the younger one swimming now it is the same, but she has the advantage of having an older sister who played a sport in college.

So - older teammates want your kid to help the team, as long as their role does not hurt them. Every athlete will first, second and third want to compete. That is way more important than the team winning. It’s great to win, and losing will mean changes that could very well mean less chance to swim/play/race. But, if it were to come down to a choice between the team winning the game or meet, or them playing/swimming they will choose playing/swimming every single time.

Wtf does ANY of this have to do with Lia Thomas? Lady, you’re nuts.

[Anonymous]

I'll take the bait.

What would the NCAA do with a female swimmer whose parents started giving her steroids and testosterone from age 10-22 years of age, and stopped it for a year? I imagine the swimmer would be banned.

Regarding testosterone blocking medications, my father had to take this kind of hormone treatment for prostate cancer. They didn't let him into the women's division of local 5km turkey trot even though he was facing hot flashes, weight gain and ED.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone who thinks college swimmers, or college athletes in any sport, hang with more than a handful of their teammates has no clue about college athletics. That’s frankly hilarious.

The times they know are the times they need to hit - to keep their lane, to stay in an event, to qualify for a final, a meet or a trial. What anyone else does - they do. It’s one of the things about timed sports.

Did you think it’s about “the team”? It’s way, way, way too much work to be about “the team”. A coach will enter whoever is swimming the best times in practice. Don’t swim well? See ya.

The athletes do the same thing now as well. There’s going to be 20-30 college football players who do not dress for bowl games. Why? Don’t want to risk getting hurt or doing something that hurts their draft position. My undergrad Alma mater is playing in a bowl this year and both schools have their two best players sitting. It’s now basically the Spring game. But, no one would pay them $10M if they got hurt so they sit. That’s how the game is played.

Keep digging your heels in PP. Your posts get more and more amusing as the day rolls on. I’ll have sore abs at the end of the day from laughing so hard at this rate.

Give it up. Obvious you know nothing about sports above a little kid level. Go pout about the men’s basketball team sitting for the anthem.

Oooh you got me there!
Not really. My 15 yo competitive swimmer would beg to differ. I mean, how could she possibly know as much as you do?!?

She doesn’t. Nor should she. She’s a kid. Step into college swim (or any college sport for that matter) and things are immediately very very different. The athlete works for the coach and the school. Your kid, if they swim in college, needs to follow the team rules, do well academically, shut up and never complain, and consistently improve. Virginia won the NCAAs last year. They have 4 Seniors on this years team. Go back 4 years. How many freshman started off? Nine. And, that’s a pretty good attrition rate. It’s worse in lots of competitive programs. Though most coaches will shoot for 50% over time.

My oldest daughter played 4 years of college soccer. She was one of the survivors. She won the Coaches Award her Junior and Senior years representing team leadership. She well tell that in 4 years of playing, the head coach maybe spoke directly to her less than 30 minutes. That’s counting during games, as well as before and after games. During practices, before and after practices. On road trips. In PT. In the weightroom. Wherever. As a parent, you can say “hey coach who is it going”, if you happen to run into him/her and that is about it. With the younger one swimming now it is the same, but she has the advantage of having an older sister who played a sport in college.

So - older teammates want your kid to help the team, as long as their role does not hurt them. Every athlete will first, second and third want to compete. That is way more important than the team winning. It’s great to win, and losing will mean changes that could very well mean less chance to swim/play/race. But, if it were to come down to a choice between the team winning the game or meet, or them playing/swimming they will choose playing/swimming every single time.

Your daughter had a bad experience. My college coach and my husband’s college coach were at our wedding, we visit every time we are in town, and our teammates were our best friends in college. Many still are. It is very sad that your daughter had this experience, but it isn’t normal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone who thinks college swimmers, or college athletes in any sport, hang with more than a handful of their teammates has no clue about college athletics. That’s frankly hilarious.

The times they know are the times they need to hit - to keep their lane, to stay in an event, to qualify for a final, a meet or a trial. What anyone else does - they do. It’s one of the things about timed sports.

Did you think it’s about “the team”? It’s way, way, way too much work to be about “the team”. A coach will enter whoever is swimming the best times in practice. Don’t swim well? See ya.

The athletes do the same thing now as well. There’s going to be 20-30 college football players who do not dress for bowl games. Why? Don’t want to risk getting hurt or doing something that hurts their draft position. My undergrad Alma mater is playing in a bowl this year and both schools have their two best players sitting. It’s now basically the Spring game. But, no one would pay them $10M if they got hurt so they sit. That’s how the game is played.

Keep digging your heels in PP. Your posts get more and more amusing as the day rolls on. I’ll have sore abs at the end of the day from laughing so hard at this rate.

Give it up. Obvious you know nothing about sports above a little kid level. Go pout about the men’s basketball team sitting for the anthem.

What is wrong with you? Mad that women won’t just sit down and shut up about getting shut out of their own sports programs?

I think it’s just one clueless person posting over and over about how athletes don’t know their teammates, and all that matters in swim is your personal times. As for what’s wrong with her, well, god only knows where to start with that one.

Clueless? More like mentally ill.