LCPS sexual assualt - who is held accountable?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are we using the word rape correctly here? It sounds like the second assault was groping, which is assault, and obviously horrible, but not rape. I think the language matters, there is a difference between the two.

It definitely matters and I believe the two are being conflated to keep the boys-belong-in-the-bathroom-to avoid-hurt-feelings crowd happy. They are saying that "the same thing happened in a classroom!" in order to avoid the conversation that in a place that should be a safe place for girls and women is now a secluded location a boy can sodomize with no one able to just walk by and see.
There is a reason the rape happened in the bathroom and the groping happened in a classroom.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If my kid is ever sexually assaulted at school, I’m dialing 911. F the school.

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I told my daughter to call 911 if, God forbid, something like this happens at school. Because I have lost any faith I had that something like this would be handled appropriately by the admin.

This has been a huge problem for a long time with universities. I agree that girls (and men) should be encouraged to call police instead of going through admin.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Are we using the word rape correctly here? It sounds like the second assault was groping, which is assault, and obviously horrible, but not rape. I think the language matters, there is a difference between the two.

It definitely matters and I believe the two are being conflated to keep the boys-belong-in-the-bathroom-to avoid-hurt-feelings crowd happy. They are saying that "the same thing happened in a classroom!" in order to avoid the conversation that in a place that should be a safe place for girls and women is now a secluded location a boy can sodomize with no one able to just walk by and see.
There is a reason the rape happened in the bathroom and the groping happened in a classroom.

Right. The alleged forcible sodomy on May 28th occurred in the girls bathroom. And beating according to a news report I saw this morning about the lawsuit just filed.

[Anonymous]

I just learned about this VA bill, which passed last year:

House Bill 257 allows school principals and superintendents to decide whether or not to report misdemeanor crimes committed by students on school property to law enforcement. This would include crimes like assault and battery, sexual assault, stalking, threats, firearm, drug and alcohol violations.

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Anonymous wrote:Typically, a trans guy would not rape a girl. This disturbing boy is obviously not really trans. It is so unfortunate that the ultra right wings are trying to use this terrible incident against the LGBT community. Any boy, even wearing pants, can easily walk into a high school girl’s bathroom without anyone in the hallways doing anything about it. The hallways are either chaotic or empty and everyone is too busy getting to their classes on time.

I agree the trans part is irrelevant. I just can’t believe they just simply enrolled him in another school nearby!!!

Of course it’s relevant, girls are now expected to be comfortable with boys in bathrooms and locker rooms with them and are shamed if they speak about their discomfort.

This student/assailant is a sexual predator. The same exact thing could have happened 5 years ago.

Yes… feminists don’t want to make it easier for sexual predators to access safe spaces… there is no way for the average person to know who is a sexual predator pretending to be trans versus who is “legitimately” trans… therefore keeping sex-segregated spaces safe for women is one guard against predators.

Glad we agree.

The second assault happened in an empty classroom. How are you going to keep trans kids out of there?

Exactly. And this kid isn't even trans! He's nonbinary. He sometimes wears clothes to present as more masculine and sometimes wears clothes to present as more feminine.

I think people need to educate themselves more. Nonbinary does not equal trans. Wearing a skirt does not equal trans for a guy anymore than a girl wearing pants would make her trans.

Making this all about the trans bathroom bill is distracting from the important fact that two young women were SA at school and no one was told anything for months.

The problem is the current policies allow male-bodied students to use the same bathroom as female-bodied students. As I said upthread, this removes a layer of protection for the girls. A teacher can’t stop a male-bodied student from using the girls bathroom. A peer can’t call out a male-bodied student for using the girls bathroom. Girls are expected to share their bathrooms with male-bodied students and see it as normal. This makes them vulnerable to this type of assault.

There is a compromise option of allowing students who have a gender identity that differs from their sex at birth to use a private bathroom. That solution has been shot down repeatedly, because of concerns for the transgender student’s feelings. I think it’s time that we prioritize the feelings of girls who feel vulnerable in school bathrooms because of incidents such as this. Private bathrooms for students not comfortable using the restroom that matches their birth sex is a reasonable middle ground.

Protection from forcible sodomy should be more important than protecting feelings.

[Anonymous]

So change all bathrooms to unisex with no outside doors - just stall doors.

[Anonymous]

The first case is definitely a felony accusation. And to the pp the SRO is a policeman so reporting this to the SRO is what principals do. The SRO then takes it from there, the principal does not then call other law enforcement. I guess they could, but the SRO would be the one who would then contact whoever is the right law enforcement folks to handle a case beyond his/her scope.

[Anonymous]

All cis gender girls should protest in a walk out until the administration can reassure them they are safe at school. Memba the gun safety walk outs and protests? hello.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So change all bathrooms to unisex with no outside doors - just stall doors.

Dumb.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just learned about this VA bill, which passed last year:

House Bill 257 allows school principals and superintendents to decide whether or not to report misdemeanor crimes committed by students on school property to law enforcement. This would include crimes like assault and battery, sexual assault, stalking, threats, firearm, drug and alcohol violations.

Sexual assault is a misdemeanor?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So change all bathrooms to unisex with no outside doors - just stall doors.

Dumb.

practical

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If my kid is ever sexually assaulted at school, I’m dialing 911. F the school.

+1

I told my daughter to call 911 if, God forbid, something like this happens at school. Because I have lost any faith I had that something like this would be handled appropriately by the admin.

Often the sheriff's department has a massive multi-year annual contract with the school district for patrols, resource officers, DARE, etc. So don't assume even local police will have your back over their cronies in a school bureaucracy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If my kid is ever sexually assaulted at school, I’m dialing 911. F the school.

+1

I told my daughter to call 911 if, God forbid, something like this happens at school. Because I have lost any faith I had that something like this would be handled appropriately by the admin.

Often the sheriff's department has a massive multi-year annual contract with the school district for patrols, resource officers, DARE, etc. So don't assume even local police will have your back over their cronies in a school bureaucracy.

To add, who you do think marched in there to arrest (?) the victim's dad the first time at the school and again at the school board meeting? Sheriff's deputies, whose department probably collects millions of dollars from the district.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So change all bathrooms to unisex with no outside doors - just stall doors.

Dumb.

practical

Have you been in a high school bathroom lately. Stall doors seem to go missing....

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I just learned about this VA bill, which passed last year:

House Bill 257 allows school principals and superintendents to decide whether or not to report misdemeanor crimes committed by students on school property to law enforcement. This would include crimes like assault and battery, sexual assault, stalking, threats, firearm, drug and alcohol violations.

Sexual assault is a misdemeanor?

I can understand drugs and alcohol violations, but the the others listed that threaten other students and staff should not be misdemeanors.