Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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Anonymous wrote:Maxine Waters literally old her followers to go out and physically harm Trump. Why wasn't she arrested?

This is a thread about a rightwing extremist assassinating Charlie Kirk. Can you please stay on topic?

You mean a left wing extremist. There fixed it for you.

Nope! Left wing extremists don't donate to Donald Trump or cosplay as groyper memes. Your attempts to paint the shooter as a liberal despite all evidence are obviously transparent and increasingly pathetic.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone summarize the political leanings of the shooter?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groypers

So they thought Kirk wasn’t fascist enough?

Correct. They are right of Kirk and don’t think he was far enough to the right. These people can’t see the center with a telescope, much less the left.

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Anonymous wrote:Sounds like the prez had moved on already, lol.

LOL! That's a case study in how fast media cycles move. From one sentence to the next.

It's like Charlie has been tossed aside like a piece of garbage now that his death is no longer useful to serve an agenda.

You are talking as if Charlie just turned into a piece of garbage. He has been a piece of garbage his all useless life.

Yeah. Any violent death like that is tragic. Those types of deaths happen every day. Charlie Kirk was a bad person and while the manner and circumstances of his death are tragic, the world is a better place without him.

Kirk was not a nice person given his public statements. However, he did not deserve to be shot like he was. He deserved to become painfully unpopular and a social pariah but not assassinated in front of his wife and kids.

+1. I feel as horrified in this situation as I do in all the other MANY cases of mental illness + guns resulting in a traumatic incident. Not only to Kirk and his family but everyone there was traumatized. Gun control. Now.

I have supported sensible gun control for my entire adult life but there is not a thing sensible gun control could do to prevent this shooting.

Of course there is. That kind of statement is the stupidest cop out. and also of course - there is no single policy that can be proven to prevent a particular crime. But *obviously* gun control would mean we have much less of this.

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Anonymous wrote:This is a sad turning point in America.

We are all doomed.

We’re only doomed if we don’t get maga violence in check and stopped. These people are willing to kill and are armed to the teeth. We MUST get them under control. If we don’t not, then yes, we are doomed.

You have no idea if this was a crazy democrat but you're very quick to blame trump supporters. I don't think your comments going to age well.

Anti-Fa is violent. Why don't you get that in check?

Antifa isn’t a thing. If it were they would be in DC right now fighting the actual fascist take over of the city. I mean I saw a group of masked men tackling another while driving my child to school. Antifa was a bunch of Bugaloo Boyz dressed up pretending.

Lol....if you don't like something you call it fascist. Go back to school.

Nah I know what fascism is. When Trump took over education, took over the arts, and has masked unidentified men taking people in broad daylight; it’s fascism.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone summarize the political leanings of the shooter?

The only intel is that he inscirbed anti fascist messages on the gun and bullets. He also wore a Halloween costume mocking Trump. He's likely left leaning.

He's a white, Christian, gun-loving Republican raised in a good home. Dad was a minister and LEO. Don't let the bots from China-Russia fool you.

Hey now, be fair. Some of the bots are from Iran, too.

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Anonymous wrote:Sounds like the prez had moved on already, lol.

LOL! That's a case study in how fast media cycles move. From one sentence to the next.

It's like Charlie has been tossed aside like a piece of garbage now that his death is no longer useful to serve an agenda.

You are talking as if Charlie just turned into a piece of garbage. He has been a piece of garbage his all useless life.

Yeah. Any violent death like that is tragic. Those types of deaths happen every day. Charlie Kirk was a bad person and while the manner and circumstances of his death are tragic, the world is a better place without him.

Kirk was not a nice person given his public statements. However, he did not deserve to be shot like he was. He deserved to become painfully unpopular and a social pariah but not assassinated in front of his wife and kids.

+1. I feel as horrified in this situation as I do in all the other MANY cases of mental illness + guns resulting in a traumatic incident. Not only to Kirk and his family but everyone there was traumatized. Gun control. Now.

I have supported sensible gun control for my entire adult life but there is not a thing sensible gun control could do to prevent this shooting.

Sensible gun control would involve registering guns and keeping them securely stored. And limits on transporting them. And buying them. We don't know how he got the weapon (at least that I've seen) but if he had bought it himself, sensible gun control laws would've slowed the process down which might have been a deterrent—crimes like these usually involve a lot of psyching yourself up, and if you have to wait three weeks to do it, it's plenty of time to talk yourself out of it. Also, if it was his parents gun—and as far as I know, it appears it was an older weapon—and it was securely stored, he might not have been able to get it.

And authorities quickly found the gun, if it had been registered, police could've quickly identified him, which wouldn't have stopped it, btu would've saved us from Kash Patel's Keystone Cops improv.

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The slogans were accompanied by left-wing symbols, like an up arrow, a right arrow and three down arrows.

Please explain to the class how these symbols are “left-wing.” TIA!

It’s a Headstamps. Everyone knows it. Even maga.

I think you need to read updated news articles. That was yesterday’s news. Maybe read the transcript or watch the press conference from earlier.

lol what you going to shoot me? It’s a Headstamps. Provide some evidence that is not maybe up internet stuff. Like you heard it from a bot on twitter with 5 followers.

I linked the press conference.


Stop gaslighting and actually get your facts straight before you post.

Also, why would you say that? I never said anything to indicate I was violent.

So you can not provide links proving your craziness? Got it.

NP. Good lord. Do you fart in our general direction? The scribblings were described at the press conference, which the PP linked. A bit of googling will quickly reveal credible pre-assassination sources on the meaning of the scribblings: One is a reference to an Italian anti-fascist protest song from WW II; one is an anti-Nazi political symbol also from WW II; one said "hey fascist, catch!"; and one said if this hits you, you're gay (for the sarcasm-challenged: I'm hitting you with what you think is cooties). Notice a theme? It sucks that we on the left have to contend with our own mentally ill radical. Sadly, they come in all stripes and we all bear responsibility for that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Arrows

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bella_ciao

No. It said "if you read this you are gay, LMAO."

Thanks for the correction. Same sentiment.

Not at all. "If you read this you are gay" is a dumb internet meme. It is apolitical. It's a thing people used to say on Tumblr and still say on reddit.

I'm not saying this shooter was not a left-oriented radical, but the engraving on the casings is pretty weak evidence.

I think he is just an attention seeking edge lord. He has no ideology.

We are learning much about his upbringing, though. White, Mormon, Utah, guns, law enforcement family. Very white and very right.

Maybe. But that just makes it all the more terrifying about how quickly a university can radicalize kids.

That reach is going to send you to the orthopedist.

Especially when the kid was raised by Republicans in deep-white-utah and was raised in a gun family. That university he went to is probably akin to the 10th grade in DC area highschools.

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Anonymous wrote:Basically, in the United States of America, you can be shot absolutely anywhere at any time.

If you are some sort of political figure, your likelihood of being shot is even higher.

Charlie Kirk was ok with this. I am not, but it seems absurd to give him sympathy when he is one of the architects of the current order that put himself in danger. I don’t want him to be shot- I don’t want anyone to be shot. But it’s important that political figures are not insulated from the reality that the rest of us all live with.

+1000. Charlie Kirk wanted unlimited access to guns for everyone. I'll save my sympathy for innocent school children and people who support reasonable gun control.

+100000

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone summarize the political leanings of the shooter?

The only intel is that he inscirbed anti fascist messages on the gun and bullets. He also wore a Halloween costume mocking Trump. He's likely left leaning.

He's a white, Christian, gun-loving Republican raised in a good home. Dad was a minister and LEO. Don't let the bots from China-Russia fool you.

Hey now, be fair. Some of the bots are from Iran, too.

noted. They always let their subject-object agreement slip.

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Just reading the news after a busy morning.

I'm glad they caught the killer.

I see that he's not a trans activist. He apparently is against fascists. And he's apparently a gamer. OK.

Not a very ultra-left sort of person, in my opinion. Just another mentally ill weirdo obsessed with guns.

I think we can all agree that this person had mental problems, and spent a lot of time on the internet. The only information we have on his motive is what he wrote on the casings, and those were anti-fascist taunts. Sorry, folks, but anti-fascist is not a right wing thing. Maybe there will be more context that will paint a mixed picture but so far, nothing suggests right wing extremism here.

I don’t think anyone knows exactly the situation but trolling on the bullet casings would be totally on point for these types.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone summarize the political leanings of the shooter?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groypers

So they thought Kirk wasn’t fascist enough?

Correct. They are right of Kirk and don’t think he was far enough to the right. These people can’t see the center with a telescope, much less the left.

That’s insane!

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The slogans were accompanied by left-wing symbols, like an up arrow, a right arrow and three down arrows.

Please explain to the class how these symbols are “left-wing.” TIA!

It’s a Headstamps. Everyone knows it. Even maga.

I think you need to read updated news articles. That was yesterday’s news. Maybe read the transcript or watch the press conference from earlier.

lol what you going to shoot me? It’s a Headstamps. Provide some evidence that is not maybe up internet stuff. Like you heard it from a bot on twitter with 5 followers.

I linked the press conference.


Stop gaslighting and actually get your facts straight before you post.

Also, why would you say that? I never said anything to indicate I was violent.

So you can not provide links proving your craziness? Got it.

NP. Good lord. Do you fart in our general direction? The scribblings were described at the press conference, which the PP linked. A bit of googling will quickly reveal credible pre-assassination sources on the meaning of the scribblings: One is a reference to an Italian anti-fascist protest song from WW II; one is an anti-Nazi political symbol also from WW II; one said "hey fascist, catch!"; and one said if this hits you, you're gay (for the sarcasm-challenged: I'm hitting you with what you think is cooties). Notice a theme? It sucks that we on the left have to contend with our own mentally ill radical. Sadly, they come in all stripes and we all bear responsibility for that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Arrows

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bella_ciao

No. It said "if you read this you are gay, LMAO."

Thanks for the correction. Same sentiment.

Not at all. "If you read this you are gay" is a dumb internet meme. It is apolitical. It's a thing people used to say on Tumblr and still say on reddit.

I'm not saying this shooter was not a left-oriented radical, but the engraving on the casings is pretty weak evidence.

I think he is just an attention seeking edge lord. He has no ideology.

We are learning much about his upbringing, though. White, Mormon, Utah, guns, law enforcement family. Very white and very right.

Maybe. But that just makes it all the more terrifying about how quickly a university can radicalize kids.

That reach is going to send you to the orthopedist.

Especially when the kid was raised by Republicans in deep-white-utah and was raised in a gun family. That university he went to is probably akin to the 10th grade in DC area highschools.

I take that back. I bet DC area 10th graders could out-think every kid in that "school"

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone summarize the political leanings of the shooter?

The only intel is that he inscirbed anti fascist messages on the gun and bullets. He also wore a Halloween costume mocking Trump. He's likely left leaning.

He's a white, Christian, gun-loving Republican raised in a good home. Dad was a minister and LEO. Don't let the bots from China-Russia fool you.

Other than him being white, none of those things have been established.

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1 hr 52 min ago
Suspect got more political in recent years and criticized Kirk, family told investigators
From CNN's Andy Rose
The suspect in the killing of Charlie Kirk, Tyler Robinson, spoke negatively of the victim before the shooting, a family member told investigators, Utah’s governor said.

“Investigators interviewed a family member of Robinson who stated that Robinson had become more political in recent years,” Gov. Spencer Cox said Friday in a news conference.

The suspect specifically mentioned Kirk during a family dinner, Cox said.

“In the conversation with another family member, Robinson mentioned Charlie Kirk was coming to UVU. They talked about why they didn’t like him and the viewpoints that he had,” the governor said.
“The family member also stated Kirk was full of hate and spreading hate,” Cox said.

Update: This post has been updated to include Cox’s full quote about what the family member told investigators.

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/charlie-kirk-shot-utah-death-09-12-25#cmfgugcro000z356ngi5ao6vf

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sounds like the prez had moved on already, lol.

LOL! That's a case study in how fast media cycles move. From one sentence to the next.

It's like Charlie has been tossed aside like a piece of garbage now that his death is no longer useful to serve an agenda.

His widow is gonna find out real fast how many real friends she has. The right will be climbing all over themselves to take Charlies spot. Let’s see if Trump follow through with any of his promises. Who knows maybe the wife will learn How it’s all a grift and MAGA will happy to stab you in the back at the first chance