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Anonymous wrote:If anyone goes to the 2012 boy tryouts tonight could u please report back on the coaching situation? We are taking our ds to the fc dulles tryout at the same time.

FC Dulles is way worse. You get what you pay for.

Could you be more specific? I did a search on here and didn't find any complaints. Valor has multiple hundred page long blogs.

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Anonymous wrote:Any word on the coaches for 2011 girls? Valor moved one of their only good coaches to the 2011 top team after last year's coach left with
the best players for SYC. The second team coach was a parent coach this year.

Looking at the coaching staff, MB does not have a girl on the 2011 team. She is a great coach and has a good reputation coaching Chantilly's varsity team. We need to stop spitting out rumors.

DV is her co-coach and has a daughter on the team.

+1. That team is parent-coached. You need to check your facts before claiming other people are "spitting out rumors".

As a parent on that team, he is the assistant. He is also her assistant at Chantilly. I like having two coaches and he is great with the girls.

And he has a kid on the team, right?

Why are you so worked up?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Any word on the coaches for 2011 girls? Valor moved one of their only good coaches to the 2011 top team after last year's coach left with
the best players for SYC. The second team coach was a parent coach this year.

Looking at the coaching staff, MB does not have a girl on the 2011 team. She is a great coach and has a good reputation coaching Chantilly's varsity team. We need to stop spitting out rumors.

DV is her co-coach and has a daughter on the team.

+1. That team is parent-coached. You need to check your facts before claiming other people are "spitting out rumors".

As a parent on that team, he is the assistant. He is also her assistant at Chantilly. I like having two coaches and he is great with the girls.

Not to quibble and I doubt it matters to the anti parent coach brigade but on the Valor site, he is listed as a head co-coach. Assistant coaches are not listed at all.

Just trying to keep info in this thread fair and accurate to everybody.

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Anonymous wrote:Any word on the coaches for 2011 girls? Valor moved one of their only good coaches to the 2011 top team after last year's coach left with
the best players for SYC. The second team coach was a parent coach this year.

Looking at the coaching staff, MB does not have a girl on the 2011 team. She is a great coach and has a good reputation coaching Chantilly's varsity team. We need to stop spitting out rumors.

DV is her co-coach and has a daughter on the team.

+1. That team is parent-coached. You need to check your facts before claiming other people are "spitting out rumors".

As a parent on that team, he is the assistant. He is also her assistant at Chantilly. I like having two coaches and he is great with the girls.

And he has a kid on the team, right?

Why are you so worked up?

Nobody is "worked up" but you seem awfully defensive about a plain fact.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If anyone goes to the 2012 boy tryouts tonight could u please report back on the coaching situation? We are taking our ds to the fc dulles tryout at the same time.

FC Dulles is way worse. You get what you pay for.

Could you be more specific? I did a search on here and didn't find any complaints. Valor has multiple hundred page long blogs.

DP

I wouldn’t consider Dulles worse or better because I don’t know what your goals are for your dc.
But “half the price” seems a bit unfair comparison. It is a non-MLSN/ECNL/GA club. Also, like so many other clubs that have a lower listed fee, they have additional fees such as “out-of-county” fees and tournament fees that parents have to pay.

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Anonymous wrote:If anyone gets any secret information at the tryouts about the coaching staff, please post here!

2014's. 3 teams 3 coaches named.

Okay, who were the coaches?

1st Team - Israel aka Stevie, aka “trust the process” of passing drills, scrimmaging, and playing in fear of making mistakes to the point of preferring to sit the bench or simply skipping games and events.

2nd Team - Cory Fick aka Girls Director responsible for hiring both Israel and Chris The division is such a mess he had to assign himself the 2nd team unless he’s simply a placeholder til he finds another coach. Only time will tell since he certainly wouldn’t tell a parent the truth. If the philosophy is, blow up the 14G division by driving the best players to Loudoun, VDA, or Revolution and then start over by promoting the 2nd team to the 1st, than Bravo Zulu. Selling the clout of the 1st team to parents on the current 2nd team should work. Hopefully there are enough new naive families coming in willing to accept playing on the second team since you know there’s no way in hell they’ll accept an offer from the 3rd team.

3rd Chris Rivera (same parent coach as now) If your a current player on the 3rd team and your fortunate enough that your dd still wants to play soccer another year, don’t worry, there should be plenty opportunities to move to the second team If not, then make sure your dd’s appt with her psychiatrist is right after training otherwise, simply go somewhere else. For the grace of the players and families, hopefully there isn’t a 3rd team next year.

Again, Bravo Zulu Valor. VDA here we come.

Thanks for the summary. Good luck at VSA. Have they sent out offers yet? Do they have any idea they are losing players. For the sake of discussion would the 2nd team be a terrible place for a middle of the pack player? If there is no 3rd team wouldn't CR move up to 2 if Cory is placeholder?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If anyone goes to the 2012 boy tryouts tonight could u please report back on the coaching situation? We are taking our ds to the fc dulles tryout at the same time.

FC Dulles is way worse. You get what you pay for.

Could you be more specific? I did a search on here and didn't find any complaints. Valor has multiple hundred page long blogs.

DP

I wouldn’t consider Dulles worse or better because I don’t know what your goals are for your dc.
But “half the price” seems a bit unfair comparison. It is a non-MLSN/ECNL/GA club. Also, like so many other clubs that have a lower listed fee, they have additional fees such as “out-of-county” fees and tournament fees that parents have to pay.

We are in Fairfax so the out of county fee doesn't apply.

Both Valor and Dulles teams play in NCSL. Valor charges the same price for all their teams, right?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any word on the coaches for 2011 girls? Valor moved one of their only good coaches to the 2011 top team after last year's coach left with
the best players for SYC. The second team coach was a parent coach this year.

Looking at the coaching staff, MB does not have a girl on the 2011 team. She is a great coach and has a good reputation coaching Chantilly's varsity team. We need to stop spitting out rumors.

DV is her co-coach and has a daughter on the team.

+1. That team is parent-coached. You need to check your facts before claiming other people are "spitting out rumors".

As a parent on that team, he is the assistant. He is also her assistant at Chantilly. I like having two coaches and he is great with the girls.

And he has a kid on the team, right?

Why are you so worked up?

Nobody is "worked up" but you seem awfully defensive about a plain fact.

No I am sure they are just wondering who hurt you? Parents coach their own kids all the time. Deion just had both of his sons on a college football team. You squak about it more than the talking heads on espn.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If anyone gets any secret information at the tryouts about the coaching staff, please post here!

2014's. 3 teams 3 coaches named.

Okay, who were the coaches?

1st Team - Israel aka Stevie, aka “trust the process” of passing drills, scrimmaging, and playing in fear of making mistakes to the point of preferring to sit the bench or simply skipping games and events.

2nd Team - Cory Fick aka Girls Director responsible for hiring both Israel and Chris The division is such a mess he had to assign himself the 2nd team unless he’s simply a placeholder til he finds another coach. Only time will tell since he certainly wouldn’t tell a parent the truth. If the philosophy is, blow up the 14G division by driving the best players to Loudoun, VDA, or Revolution and then start over by promoting the 2nd team to the 1st, than Bravo Zulu. Selling the clout of the 1st team to parents on the current 2nd team should work. Hopefully there are enough new naive families coming in willing to accept playing on the second team since you know there’s no way in hell they’ll accept an offer from the 3rd team.

3rd Chris Rivera (same parent coach as now) If your a current player on the 3rd team and your fortunate enough that your dd still wants to play soccer another year, don’t worry, there should be plenty opportunities to move to the second team If not, then make sure your dd’s appt with her psychiatrist is right after training otherwise, simply go somewhere else. For the grace of the players and families, hopefully there isn’t a 3rd team next year.

Again, Bravo Zulu Valor. VDA here we come.

Thanks for the summary. Good luck at VSA. Have they sent out offers yet? Do they have any idea they are losing players. For the sake of discussion would the 2nd team be a terrible place for a middle of the pack player? If there is no 3rd team wouldn't CR move up to 2 if Cory is placeholder?

Yes that would be my guess. CR would move up if there are only 2 teams.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any word on the coaches for 2011 girls? Valor moved one of their only good coaches to the 2011 top team after last year's coach left with
the best players for SYC. The second team coach was a parent coach this year.

Looking at the coaching staff, MB does not have a girl on the 2011 team. She is a great coach and has a good reputation coaching Chantilly's varsity team. We need to stop spitting out rumors.

DV is her co-coach and has a daughter on the team.

+1. That team is parent-coached. You need to check your facts before claiming other people are "spitting out rumors".

As a parent on that team, he is the assistant. He is also her assistant at Chantilly. I like having two coaches and he is great with the girls.

And he has a kid on the team, right?

Why are you so worked up?

Nobody is "worked up" but you seem awfully defensive about a plain fact.

No I am sure they are just wondering who hurt you? Parents coach their own kids all the time. Deion just had both of his sons on a college football team. You squak about it more than the talking heads on espn.

You seem to be the one taking this personally for some very mysterious reason.

Everyone else is just talking objective facts. Did the coach have a kid on the team or not? Some people think thats a deal breaker others do not.

If Valor just published their coach list like a normal org with info on the coaches, parents wouldn't have to play Guess Who.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If anyone goes to the 2012 boy tryouts tonight could u please report back on the coaching situation? We are taking our ds to the fc dulles tryout at the same time.

FC Dulles is way worse. You get what you pay for.

Could you be more specific? I did a search on here and didn't find any complaints. Valor has multiple hundred page long blogs.

DP

I wouldn’t consider Dulles worse or better because I don’t know what your goals are for your dc.
But “half the price” seems a bit unfair comparison. It is a non-MLSN/ECNL/GA club. Also, like so many other clubs that have a lower listed fee, they have additional fees such as “out-of-county” fees and tournament fees that parents have to pay.

We are in Fairfax so the out of county fee doesn't apply.

Both Valor and Dulles teams play in NCSL. Valor charges the same price for all their teams, right?

Valor is a ECNL-RL club

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Any word on the coaches for 2011 girls? Valor moved one of their only good coaches to the 2011 top team after last year's coach left with
the best players for SYC. The second team coach was a parent coach this year.

Looking at the coaching staff, MB does not have a girl on the 2011 team. She is a great coach and has a good reputation coaching Chantilly's varsity team. We need to stop spitting out rumors.

DV is her co-coach and has a daughter on the team.

+1. That team is parent-coached. You need to check your facts before claiming other people are "spitting out rumors".

As a parent on that team, he is the assistant. He is also her assistant at Chantilly. I like having two coaches and he is great with the girls.

And he has a kid on the team, right?

Why are you so worked up?

Nobody is "worked up" but you seem awfully defensive about a plain fact.

No I am sure they are just wondering who hurt you? Parents coach their own kids all the time. Deion just had both of his sons on a college football team. You squak about it more than the talking heads on espn.

You seem to be the one taking this personally for some very mysterious reason.

Everyone else is just talking objective facts. Did the coach have a kid on the team or not? Some people think thats a deal breaker others do not.

If Valor just published their coach list like a normal org with info on the coaches, parents wouldn't have to play Guess Who.

Is Arlington normal? Is GFR normal? Those two (and others) haven’t listed all their coaches.

Someone also listed other orgs that have parents coaching their own kids.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any word on the coaches for 2011 girls? Valor moved one of their only good coaches to the 2011 top team after last year's coach left with
the best players for SYC. The second team coach was a parent coach this year.

Looking at the coaching staff, MB does not have a girl on the 2011 team. She is a great coach and has a good reputation coaching Chantilly's varsity team. We need to stop spitting out rumors.

DV is her co-coach and has a daughter on the team.

+1. That team is parent-coached. You need to check your facts before claiming other people are "spitting out rumors".

As a parent on that team, he is the assistant. He is also her assistant at Chantilly. I like having two coaches and he is great with the girls.

Sure don't address the Deion point, just bawk bawk chickenhead bawk bawk
And he has a kid on the team, right?

Why are you so worked up?

Nobody is "worked up" but you seem awfully defensive about a plain fact.

No I am sure they are just wondering who hurt you? Parents coach their own kids all the time. Deion just had both of his sons on a college football team. You squak about it more than the talking heads on espn.

You seem to be the one taking this personally for some very mysterious reason.

Everyone else is just talking objective facts. Did the coach have a kid on the team or not? Some people think thats a deal breaker others do not.

If Valor just published their coach list like a normal org with info on the coaches, parents wouldn't have to play Guess Who.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any word on the coaches for 2011 girls? Valor moved one of their only good coaches to the 2011 top team after last year's coach left with
the best players for SYC. The second team coach was a parent coach this year.

Looking at the coaching staff, MB does not have a girl on the 2011 team. She is a great coach and has a good reputation coaching Chantilly's varsity team. We need to stop spitting out rumors.

DV is her co-coach and has a daughter on the team.

+1. That team is parent-coached. You need to check your facts before claiming other people are "spitting out rumors".

As a parent on that team, he is the assistant. He is also her assistant at Chantilly. I like having two coaches and he is great with the girls.

And he has a kid on the team, right?

Why are you so worked up?

Nobody is "worked up" but you seem awfully defensive about a plain fact.

No I am sure they are just wondering who hurt you? Parents coach their own kids all the time. Deion just had both of his sons on a college football team. You squak about it more than the talking heads on espn.

LOL at comparing a pro player in the Hall of Fame to some random dad who played high school soccer. I'm sure parents would be fine if a former pro of that stature was coaching their kid alongside one of the coach's own. The problem is that parents hired very late in the game tend not to be as qualified in terms of experience or licensure. Combine that with potential favoritism/bias issues and you've got a problem.

I don't have a dog in this fight. I personally would at least give it a season if a seemingly qualified and experienced coach were hired through a normal process and then happened to have a child on the same team. What I would not stick around for is a TBD coach. Too much of a risk that it will end up being a parent *because* their kid is on that team and they couldn't hire anyone else.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any word on the coaches for 2011 girls? Valor moved one of their only good coaches to the 2011 top team after last year's coach left with
the best players for SYC. The second team coach was a parent coach this year.

Looking at the coaching staff, MB does not have a girl on the 2011 team. She is a great coach and has a good reputation coaching Chantilly's varsity team. We need to stop spitting out rumors.

DV is her co-coach and has a daughter on the team.

+1. That team is parent-coached. You need to check your facts before claiming other people are "spitting out rumors".

As a parent on that team, he is the assistant. He is also her assistant at Chantilly. I like having two coaches and he is great with the girls.

And he has a kid on the team, right?

Why are you so worked up?

Nobody is "worked up" but you seem awfully defensive about a plain fact.

No I am sure they are just wondering who hurt you? Parents coach their own kids all the time. Deion just had both of his sons on a college football team. You squak about it more than the talking heads on espn.

You seem to be the one taking this personally for some very mysterious reason.

Everyone else is just talking objective facts. Did the coach have a kid on the team or not? Some people think thats a deal breaker others do not.

If Valor just published their coach list like a normal org with info on the coaches, parents wouldn't have to play Guess Who.

Is Arlington normal? Is GFR normal? Those two (and others) haven’t listed all their coaches.

Someone also listed other orgs that have parents coaching their own kids.

Arlington has offered a much more consistent and successful product over the years, so there is probably more trust built up among those parents. GFR doesn't sound like it's a great option right now unless you are on one of their very successful teams and you know everyone is sticking around. I've met multiple people in my child's age group who left there after a year or two because they were not impressed.