Kavanaugh vote postponed. Judiciary Committee hearing on Sexual Assault complain Monday.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Lindsay graham is another GOP senator to say that no matter what Dr.Ford says he’ll still vote for Kavanaugh. Why put her through this political theater if everyone’s mind is made up.

https://www.politico.com/amp/story/2018/09/23/kavanaugh-ford-lindsey-graham-837391

And, every Democratic Senator who has spoken out has said “I believe her.” Despite the fact that they haven’t heard from her. So, we’ll call this a draw.

[Anonymous]

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Here's another poll: majority of Americans want the FBI to investigate the allegations.

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/407991-poll-slim-majority-wants-fbi-to-investigate-allegation-against-kavanaugh

The FBI already declined to do an investigation after Feinstein passed it to them. It's not their jurisdiction to investigate what would be a state offense involving minors in a private home.

They investigated the Anita Hill accusations as part of the background check. So you are wrong.

https://www.npr.org/2018/09/20/649853869/fact-check-can-the-senate-enlist-the-fbi-to-reopen-a-kavanaugh-investigation

According to that piece

Democrats want Ford's story to carry the imprimatur of the FBI, even if, more than 30 years after the fact, investigators might not be able to do much more than take the statements of people involved...Or as a Justice Department statement phrased it earlier this week: "The FBI does not make any judgment about the credibility or significance of any allegation."

I get why the committee just wants to hear the allegations directly from each side because that's what they will end up having to do anyway.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:All of my facts are correct. we differ what those facts mean in determining Dr. Ford's mental state.

1. She [...] her.

Does anyone else get the idea that Mrs. Kavanaugh and her friends are some busy bees on these threads?

Because we bring evidence to contradict assertions people are making here?

Has it occurred to you that some people here want to safeguard the seriousness with which women's assault allegations are taken and feel that is undermined by high profile allegations as flimsy as Ford's?

Agree. I am appalled by these liberals who say we should believe her, regardless of any evidence, because women should be believed....because....well....

I bet these same women would sing a different tune if their husbands were accused.

And I bet YOU would sing a different tune if you or your daughter had been assaulted and no one believed you.

DP. If my daughter had been assaulted, I would counsel her to make a report IMMEDIATELY. Not to, you know, wait 35+ years and then expect to be believed.

Yes, great mother you are, if your daughter was so tramatized and begged you not to force her to make a report you'd force her to. Good going.

And when her accuser says no he didn't do it and no one believes your daughter, glad to know that you'd still be on the side of men who are publicly called out for their assaults.

I'd bet you'd have been one of the high school students who didn't stick up for this girl. I feel sorry for your daughter.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/amber-wyatt-told-her-story-of-rape-this-is-how-the-world-responded/2018/09/21/ff11300a-bdda-11e8-8792-78719177250f_story.html?utm_term=.130d8da2989b

Maybe feel sorry for your daughter who has a mother who encourages her weakness.

+1,000
Democrats talk a big game about “empowering” women when the reality is, they simply want them to remain victims. Reporting is just too traumatic! Vomit.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Or they find her credible and just don’t care. They are not bothered by someone who will physically restrain someone for his own amusement sitting on the Supreme Court.

This is the issue that is at the center of this for me. This could have happened last week, been a violent rape, Ford could have video and DNA evidence and it still wouldn’t matter to the GOP because for many of them, women. aren’t. people.

(And I know there will be some goppers who have difficulty with this post, so I will say that very clearly: I am not suggesting that this happened last week, was a violent, or that she has video and DNA evidence. Just that it wouldn’t matter to you if it were the case.

Nice try. Of course it would matter. This alleged incident, however, has none of those characteristics. Sorry.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Or they find her credible and just don’t care. They are not bothered by someone who will physically restrain someone for his own amusement sitting on the Supreme Court.

This is the issue that is at the center of this for me. This could have happened last week, been a violent rape, Ford could have video and DNA evidence and it still wouldn’t matter to the GOP because for many of them, women. aren’t. people.

(And I know there will be some goppers who have difficulty with this post, so I will say that very clearly: I am not suggesting that this happened last week, was a violent, or that she has video and DNA evidence. Just that it wouldn’t matter to you if it were the case.

Silly poster.
I am a Republican. I am a woman. Nobody I know who is Republican takes this viewpoint.
You have been led, by the media you watch and read, to believe nonsense because this is their way of firing you up. Looks like their strategy works on you.

Thanks Boris.

Oye. They're still with the Russian stuff when they can't refute.

I think they find it really clever... when it’s anything but. Lazy comes to mind.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:(I was told to move this from its own thread here

Kavanaugh accuser Ford fled Washington life -- now she's coming back
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/christine-bla...8-8792-78719177250f_story.html

Ford went as far away from here as possible.
She told no one for 30 years; the only thing worse than what happened would be others knowing -- the nightmare scenario of which is currently underway.
She became an expert in post-traumatic resilience; Thursday she will face the ultimate test.

Meanwhile Kavanaugh stayed, following the stellar path laid out for him, achieving great success in all facets of life, now sitting atop the Washington society they both grew up in -- many of us know it well.
That society, by and large, is with him. To attack him is to attack them, and the lives they lead.

Amazing Washington story.
Sad for all involved.

Welcome to America's caste system.

Did you see the press conference of 75 female Kavanaugh supporters.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATNAUt-Uefo

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:(I was told to move this from its own thread here

Kavanaugh accuser Ford fled Washington life -- now she's coming back
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/christine-bla...8-8792-78719177250f_story.html

Ford went as far away from here as possible.
She told no one for 30 years; the only thing worse than what happened would be others knowing -- the nightmare scenario of which is currently underway.
She became an expert in post-traumatic resilience; Thursday she will face the ultimate test.

Meanwhile Kavanaugh stayed, following the stellar path laid out for him, achieving great success in all facets of life, now sitting atop the Washington society they both grew up in -- many of us know it well.
That society, by and large, is with him. To attack him is to attack them, and the lives they lead.

Amazing Washington story.
Sad for all involved.

Welcome to America's caste system.

Did you see the press conference of 75 female Kavanaugh supporters.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATNAUt-Uefo

So that’s what suburban white women who support an establishment Republican look like. I always wondered about that.

[Anonymous]

Kavanaugh has saved his calendars from high school. Can they not confirm him merely because this is really weird that he's saved them?

Kavanaugh has calendars from summer 1982 that he plans to give the Senate that don't show a party that matches Blasey Ford's description, according to someone working for his confirmation. Calendars can't prove it didn't happen but his team will argue there is no corroboration.

The calendars show he was out of town much of the summer at the beach or with his parents and they detail basketball games, movie outings, football workouts and so forth. A few parties are mentioned but include names of people other than those identified by Blasey Ford.

https://twitter.com/peterbakernyt/status/1043949923388076032

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Kavanaugh has saved his calendars from high school. Can they not confirm him merely because this is really weird that he's saved them?

Kavanaugh has calendars from summer 1982 that he plans to give the Senate that don't show a party that matches Blasey Ford's description, according to someone working for his confirmation. Calendars can't prove it didn't happen but his team will argue there is no corroboration.

The calendars show he was out of town much of the summer at the beach or with his parents and they detail basketball games, movie outings, football workouts and so forth. A few parties are mentioned but include names of people other than those identified by Blasey Ford.

https://twitter.com/peterbakernyt/status/1043949923388076032

I don’t find this highly unusual. My DH has his calendars from way, way back. There are some people who just keep stuff like that. My DH keeps a lot of other stuff, too, but that is a different story. Fortunately, we have a lot of storage area. Or, maybe, unfortunately.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Kavanaugh has saved his calendars from high school. Can they not confirm him merely because this is really weird that he's saved them?

Kavanaugh has calendars from summer 1982 that he plans to give the Senate that don't show a party that matches Blasey Ford's description, according to someone working for his confirmation. Calendars can't prove it didn't happen but his team will argue there is no corroboration.

The calendars show he was out of town much of the summer at the beach or with his parents and they detail basketball games, movie outings, football workouts and so forth. A few parties are mentioned but include names of people other than those identified by Blasey Ford.

https://twitter.com/peterbakernyt/status/1043949923388076032

Why keep them...unless...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Here's another poll: majority of Americans want the FBI to investigate the allegations.

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/407991-poll-slim-majority-wants-fbi-to-investigate-allegation-against-kavanaugh

The FBI already declined to do an investigation after Feinstein passed it to them. It's not their jurisdiction to investigate what would be a state offense involving minors in a private home.

The FBI didn't "decline" - the White House has to authorize it, which it could on its own, or at the request of either the accused or the Senate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:(I was told to move this from its own thread here

Kavanaugh accuser Ford fled Washington life -- now she's coming back
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/christine-bla...8-8792-78719177250f_story.html

Ford went as far away from here as possible.
She told no one for 30 years; the only thing worse than what happened would be others knowing -- the nightmare scenario of which is currently underway.
She became an expert in post-traumatic resilience; Thursday she will face the ultimate test.

Meanwhile Kavanaugh stayed, following the stellar path laid out for him, achieving great success in all facets of life, now sitting atop the Washington society they both grew up in -- many of us know it well.
That society, by and large, is with him. To attack him is to attack them, and the lives they lead.

Amazing Washington story.
Sad for all involved.

Welcome to America's caste system.

Did you see the press conference of 75 female Kavanaugh supporters.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATNAUt-Uefo

So that’s what suburban white women who support an establishment Republican look like. I always wondered about that.

Lots of diversity...a couple were short

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kavanaugh has saved his calendars from high school. Can they not confirm him merely because this is really weird that he's saved them?

Kavanaugh has calendars from summer 1982 that he plans to give the Senate that don't show a party that matches Blasey Ford's description, according to someone working for his confirmation. Calendars can't prove it didn't happen but his team will argue there is no corroboration.

The calendars show he was out of town much of the summer at the beach or with his parents and they detail basketball games, movie outings, football workouts and so forth. A few parties are mentioned but include names of people other than those identified by Blasey Ford.

https://twitter.com/peterbakernyt/status/1043949923388076032

I don’t find this highly unusual. My DH has his calendars from way, way back. There are some people who just keep stuff like that. My DH keeps a lot of other stuff, too, but that is a different story. Fortunately, we have a lot of storage area. Or, maybe, unfortunately.

I dunno. This does seem bizarre to me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All of my facts are correct. we differ what those facts mean in determining Dr. Ford's mental state.

1. She [...] her.

Does anyone else get the idea that Mrs. Kavanaugh and her friends are some busy bees on these threads?

Because we bring evidence to contradict assertions people are making here?

Has it occurred to you that some people here want to safeguard the seriousness with which women's assault allegations are taken and feel that is undermined by high profile allegations as flimsy as Ford's?

Agree. I am appalled by these liberals who say we should believe her, regardless of any evidence, because women should be believed....because....well....

I bet these same women would sing a different tune if their husbands were accused.

And I bet YOU would sing a different tune if you or your daughter had been assaulted and no one believed you.

DP. If my daughter had been assaulted, I would counsel her to make a report IMMEDIATELY. Not to, you know, wait 35+ years and then expect to be believed.

Yes, great mother you are, if your daughter was so tramatized and begged you not to force her to make a report you'd force her to. Good going.

And when her accuser says no he didn't do it and no one believes your daughter, glad to know that you'd still be on the side of men who are publicly called out for their assaults.

I'd bet you'd have been one of the high school students who didn't stick up for this girl. I feel sorry for your daughter.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/amber-wyatt-told-her-story-of-rape-this-is-how-the-world-responded/2018/09/21/ff11300a-bdda-11e8-8792-78719177250f_story.html?utm_term=.130d8da2989b

Maybe feel sorry for your daughter who has a mother who encourages her weakness.

+1,000
Democrats talk a big game about “empowering” women when the reality is, they simply want them to remain victims. Reporting is just too traumatic! Vomit.

Context is important. In the 1980's as a teen, you just didn't report these sort of things, particularly when the accused's mother was the local prosecutor. Today, in the context of metoo and the conversations taking place between parents and their daughters all across the country, future victims hopefully will feel empowered.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Kavanaugh has saved his calendars from high school. Can they not confirm him merely because this is really weird that he's saved them?

Kavanaugh has calendars from summer 1982 that he plans to give the Senate that don't show a party that matches Blasey Ford's description, according to someone working for his confirmation. Calendars can't prove it didn't happen but his team will argue there is no corroboration.

The calendars show he was out of town much of the summer at the beach or with his parents and they detail basketball games, movie outings, football workouts and so forth. A few parties are mentioned but include names of people other than those identified by Blasey Ford.

https://twitter.com/peterbakernyt/status/1043949923388076032

I have my calendar from 1982 as well. Do you know what isn't in them? Impromptu gatherings after a day at the country club.