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Anonymous wrote:On a serious note- and please no peanut gallery or trolls just spewing rubbish rumors.
How many Valor coaches are actually coaching their own kid? I only know of one that is disliked by most of the parents on the team. Are there more? Specific age group and gender please.

Someone went thru in this thread many pages ago and counted a bunch of teams (10-@) with parents coaching their own kid. And those were just the teams people who post here mentioned or knew about, so there are likely more. That's a substantial percentage of their teams, and its almost all lower-tier teams, where parents are generally unhappier anyway. Getting a substandard experience for the same price your kid's friend pays for the "gold" team with the "real" coach is a recipe for sour customers.

Someone also went through that list and debunked some as people who didn't even have children.

Yeah that list was of coaches who do NOT have kids on their team. Another poster misunderstood what that post was trying to say, and ran with it. I think that poster was trying to say they weren't impressed with the so-called professional non parent coaches.

The only situation I know of is a 2014 boys team. The kid got moved up to the parent's team. But I heard that coach isn't going to be working with that age group next year anyway so no issue there.

So how many parents coaches are there in Valor that actually coach their kids? 2? 3? That doesn't seem like a high number. Are there more? Why is this such a big deal?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:On a serious note- and please no peanut gallery or trolls just spewing rubbish rumors.
How many Valor coaches are actually coaching their own kid? I only know of one that is disliked by most of the parents on the team. Are there more? Specific age group and gender please.

Someone went thru in this thread many pages ago and counted a bunch of teams (10-@) with parents coaching their own kid. And those were just the teams people who post here mentioned or knew about, so there are likely more. That's a substantial percentage of their teams, and its almost all lower-tier teams, where parents are generally unhappier anyway. Getting a substandard experience for the same price your kid's friend pays for the "gold" team with the "real" coach is a recipe for sour customers.

Someone also went through that list and debunked some as people who didn't even have children.

Yeah that list was of coaches who do NOT have kids on their team. Another poster misunderstood what that post was trying to say, and ran with it. I think that poster was trying to say they weren't impressed with the so-called professional non parent coaches.

The only situation I know of is a 2014 boys team. The kid got moved up to the parent's team. But I heard that coach isn't going to be working with that age group next year anyway so no issue there.

So how many parents coaches are there in Valor that actually coach their kids? 2? 3? That doesn't seem like a high number. Are there more? Why is this such a big deal?

I really don't know how many. Someone with too much time on their hands seems to post about it repeatedly. I think the bigger issue is that it means Valor has trouble hiring coaches. The parent coaches generally are not put in place before tryouts in the spring. They are asked to come on board after the fact because they have already formed a team and don't have a coach. Of course a parent with some soccer experience is going to step up in that situation, because they have already paid the $3k and want their child to have a coach. I can almost put money on one parent I know being asked to coach a team or two next year, because Valor won't have hired enough. I'm going to laugh if I am right.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:On a serious note- and please no peanut gallery or trolls just spewing rubbish rumors.
How many Valor coaches are actually coaching their own kid? I only know of one that is disliked by most of the parents on the team. Are there more? Specific age group and gender please.

Someone went thru in this thread many pages ago and counted a bunch of teams (10-@) with parents coaching their own kid. And those were just the teams people who post here mentioned or knew about, so there are likely more. That's a substantial percentage of their teams, and its almost all lower-tier teams, where parents are generally unhappier anyway. Getting a substandard experience for the same price your kid's friend pays for the "gold" team with the "real" coach is a recipe for sour customers.

Someone also went through that list and debunked some as people who didn't even have children.

Yeah that list was of coaches who do NOT have kids on their team. Another poster misunderstood what that post was trying to say, and ran with it. I think that poster was trying to say they weren't impressed with the so-called professional non parent coaches.

The only situation I know of is a 2014 boys team. The kid got moved up to the parent's team. But I heard that coach isn't going to be working with that age group next year anyway so no issue there.

Which team?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:On a serious note- and please no peanut gallery or trolls just spewing rubbish rumors.
How many Valor coaches are actually coaching their own kid? I only know of one that is disliked by most of the parents on the team. Are there more? Specific age group and gender please.

Someone went thru in this thread many pages ago and counted a bunch of teams (10-@) with parents coaching their own kid. And those were just the teams people who post here mentioned or knew about, so there are likely more. That's a substantial percentage of their teams, and its almost all lower-tier teams, where parents are generally unhappier anyway. Getting a substandard experience for the same price your kid's friend pays for the "gold" team with the "real" coach is a recipe for sour customers.

Someone also went through that list and debunked some as people who didn't even have children.

Yeah that list was of coaches who do NOT have kids on their team. Another poster misunderstood what that post was trying to say, and ran with it. I think that poster was trying to say they weren't impressed with the so-called professional non parent coaches.

The only situation I know of is a 2014 boys team. The kid got moved up to the parent's team. But I heard that coach isn't going to be working with that age group next year anyway so no issue there.

So how many parents coaches are there in Valor that actually coach their kids? 2? 3? That doesn't seem like a high number. Are there more? Why is this such a big deal?

I really don't know how many. Someone with too much time on their hands seems to post about it repeatedly. I think the bigger issue is that it means Valor has trouble hiring coaches. The parent coaches generally are not put in place before tryouts in the spring. They are asked to come on board after the fact because they have already formed a team and don't have a coach. Of course a parent with some soccer experience is going to step up in that situation, because they have already paid the $3k and want their child to have a coach. I can almost put money on one parent I know being asked to coach a team or two next year, because Valor won't have hired enough. I'm going to laugh if I am right.

why would you think its just one parent? absolutely no one has chimed in saying they would be thrilled to pay $3200 for a parent coach.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:On a serious note- and please no peanut gallery or trolls just spewing rubbish rumors.
How many Valor coaches are actually coaching their own kid? I only know of one that is disliked by most of the parents on the team. Are there more? Specific age group and gender please.

Someone went thru in this thread many pages ago and counted a bunch of teams (10-@) with parents coaching their own kid. And those were just the teams people who post here mentioned or knew about, so there are likely more. That's a substantial percentage of their teams, and its almost all lower-tier teams, where parents are generally unhappier anyway. Getting a substandard experience for the same price your kid's friend pays for the "gold" team with the "real" coach is a recipe for sour customers.

Someone also went through that list and debunked some as people who didn't even have children.

Yeah that list was of coaches who do NOT have kids on their team. Another poster misunderstood what that post was trying to say, and ran with it. I think that poster was trying to say they weren't impressed with the so-called professional non parent coaches.

The only situation I know of is a 2014 boys team. The kid got moved up to the parent's team. But I heard that coach isn't going to be working with that age group next year anyway so no issue there.

Which team?

Last year the 2014 white team had a coach with a kid on that team. His son got moved to a higher team mid season.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:On a serious note- and please no peanut gallery or trolls just spewing rubbish rumors.
How many Valor coaches are actually coaching their own kid? I only know of one that is disliked by most of the parents on the team. Are there more? Specific age group and gender please.

Someone went thru in this thread many pages ago and counted a bunch of teams (10-@) with parents coaching their own kid. And those were just the teams people who post here mentioned or knew about, so there are likely more. That's a substantial percentage of their teams, and its almost all lower-tier teams, where parents are generally unhappier anyway. Getting a substandard experience for the same price your kid's friend pays for the "gold" team with the "real" coach is a recipe for sour customers.

Someone also went through that list and debunked some as people who didn't even have children.

Yeah that list was of coaches who do NOT have kids on their team. Another poster misunderstood what that post was trying to say, and ran with it. I think that poster was trying to say they weren't impressed with the so-called professional non parent coaches.

The only situation I know of is a 2014 boys team. The kid got moved up to the parent's team. But I heard that coach isn't going to be working with that age group next year anyway so no issue there.

So how many parents coaches are there in Valor that actually coach their kids? 2? 3? That doesn't seem like a high number. Are there more? Why is this such a big deal?

I really don't know how many. Someone with too much time on their hands seems to post about it repeatedly. I think the bigger issue is that it means Valor has trouble hiring coaches. The parent coaches generally are not put in place before tryouts in the spring. They are asked to come on board after the fact because they have already formed a team and don't have a coach. Of course a parent with some soccer experience is going to step up in that situation, because they have already paid the $3k and want their child to have a coach. I can almost put money on one parent I know being asked to coach a team or two next year, because Valor won't have hired enough. I'm going to laugh if I am right.

why would you think its just one parent? absolutely no one has chimed in saying they would be thrilled to pay $3200 for a parent coach.

Could you at least try to read more carefully? Nobody said there’s only one parent coach on valor, or that only one parent would be approached about coaching for next year. It seems to happen across multiple teams when they inevitably can’t find coaches. I’m not defending it. I just think there’s someone on here who post about that particular issue obsessively. I guess it’s you.

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But why does no one want to work for Valor? Low pay? Jerk boss?

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Anonymous wrote:But why does no one want to work for Valor? Low pay? Jerk boss?

Look at the posts on this thread. Who would want to deal with these parents?

Other clubs have the same issues with a fraction of the crybaby parents posts.

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Anonymous wrote:But why does no one want to work for Valor? Low pay? Jerk boss?

Look at the posts on this thread. Who would want to deal with these parents?

Other clubs have the same issues with a fraction of the crybaby parents posts.

Haha! We found him! Its the Jerk Boss!

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So, the question of which specific coaches actually coach their children is repeatedly asked, but people only chime in with random numbers but cannot specify. Just one coach identified so far.

Tells you the credibility of the trolls on this thread.

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2014 boys white
2012 boys black
2009 boys white
2007 boys gold

2010 girls white
2011 girls gold
2014 girls white

Those are just the ones I personally know of. Probably more!

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Anonymous wrote:So, the question of which specific coaches actually coach their children is repeatedly asked, but people only chime in with random numbers but cannot specify. Just one coach identified so far.

Tells you the credibility of the trolls on this thread.

100 pages ago or so prior to the post that turned out to be inaccurate there was a list of maybe 5 or 6 teams identified. Does it really matter? The point is there is no published coaching slate, tryouts are happening and there is a moderate likelihood that if your child does not make a top team you may be paying over 3K for a parent coach. People like information before making decisions, it is interesting that if the overall number of teams is remaining the same, why are there so few coaches identified that Valor has not published.

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Anonymous wrote:So, the question of which specific coaches actually coach their children is repeatedly asked, but people only chime in with random numbers but cannot specify. Just one coach identified so far.

Tells you the credibility of the trolls on this thread.

The only trolls on this thread are when Valor guy posts pretending to be a parent.

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Anonymous wrote:So, the question of which specific coaches actually coach their children is repeatedly asked, but people only chime in with random numbers but cannot specify. Just one coach identified so far.

Tells you the credibility of the trolls on this thread.

I have counted 3 who either are coaching or have coached their own kid... one in 2015 girls, one in 2014 boys, one in 2014 girls.

Valor would do well to listen to some of the complaints instead of dismissing all of them as trolls or crazy parents. Some on here do come off as particularly whiny, but if you talk to people in person there are real and valid frustrations. One of the best examples? Second teams who don't know who their coach will be. I don't think it's necessarily ok for 3rd teams and below to not know who their coaches are before tryouts, but at least more understandable as clubs fill in the first couple of teams followed by the ones below that. Maybe if the coaching was uniformly known to be great, with a strong curriculum that all coaches were trained to follow, people wouldn't be nervous. But that just isn't the case at Valor and people have some wild stories that match what people have said here if you talk to them in real life.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But why does no one want to work for Valor? Low pay? Jerk boss?

Look at the posts on this thread. Who would want to deal with these parents?

Other clubs have the same issues with a fraction of the crybaby parents posts.

Haha! We found him! Its the Jerk Boss!

At the Jerk store?