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Anonymous wrote:On a serious note- and please no peanut gallery or trolls just spewing rubbish rumors.
How many Valor coaches are actually coaching their own kid? I only know of one that is disliked by most of the parents on the team. Are there more? Specific age group and gender please.

Someone went thru in this thread many pages ago and counted a bunch of teams (10-@) with parents coaching their own kid. And those were just the teams people who post here mentioned or knew about, so there are likely more. That's a substantial percentage of their teams, and its almost all lower-tier teams, where parents are generally unhappier anyway. Getting a substandard experience for the same price your kid's friend pays for the "gold" team with the "real" coach is a recipe for sour customers.

If you can't identify the specific coach, you're just spreading the same rumors without any factual substance.

I think its a little tacky to specicfically call people out who maybe reluctantly agreed to coach in August after Valor failed to hire real coaches.

Maybe the Valor employee who posts here can give us a definite number.

[Anonymous]

Ok. I guess based on my peraonal experience I didn't necessarily equate parent coach with bad coach In the other sports i referenced the parent coaches were good coaches who had college or low level pro experience and they wanted to coach their kids who were usually pretty decent players. The one soccer experience i had with a parent coaching was a long term coach whose kidnhad just reached the age that he happened to already coach. So what I saw I guess is rare in soccer world

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You are paying $3000+ for *professional* coaching. A coach can't be professional and coach his own kid.

[Anonymous]

I personally think it is actually worse for the child of the coach, not better. Even if he gives preferential treatment it is not making advancing the kid. Many kids also don’t listen to their own parents the same way as they listen to other authorities - teachers, coaches

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As I said it must be a soccer thing. In other sports. Usually the coach is harder on their own kids than anyone else to avoid the optics of preference. But I have no dog in this fight so I will let it go

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:On a serious note- and please no peanut gallery or trolls just spewing rubbish rumors.
How many Valor coaches are actually coaching their own kid? I only know of one that is disliked by most of the parents on the team. Are there more? Specific age group and gender please.

Serious question. I have only been in the travel soccer world for a few years but been around other travel youth sports for over a decade. Why is a parent coaching their kid in soccer such a big deal? It happens in other travel/AAU sports ALL the time and is almost the norm

I don't think it should be frowned upon if the coach remains impartial with his/her son/daughter on the team. I understand the perceptions that could come with a coach with his/her own child on the team.

The only one I know of in Valor is the 2014 girls third team. I cannot speak to how good or bad that coach is, but I've read some of the gripes about him. The only observation I can comment on, which might piss off some of the parents on his team, is that his daughter seems to be the best player on the team. I've only seen that team play two games, so my observation is only from those two games. But from what I can see, that team's performance would fall apart if his daughter was pulled. So, from a reasonable person's standpoint, is it really favoritism to his daughter if she gets more minutes?

🤣🤣🤣🤣 yeah no good try

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:On a serious note- and please no peanut gallery or trolls just spewing rubbish rumors.
How many Valor coaches are actually coaching their own kid? I only know of one that is disliked by most of the parents on the team. Are there more? Specific age group and gender please.

Serious question. I have only been in the travel soccer world for a few years but been around other travel youth sports for over a decade. Why is a parent coaching their kid in soccer such a big deal? It happens in other travel/AAU sports ALL the time and is almost the norm

I don't think it should be frowned upon if the coach remains impartial with his/her son/daughter on the team. I understand the perceptions that could come with a coach with his/her own child on the team.

The only one I know of in Valor is the 2014 girls third team. I cannot speak to how good or bad that coach is, but I've read some of the gripes about him. The only observation I can comment on, which might piss off some of the parents on his team, is that his daughter seems to be the best player on the team. I've only seen that team play two games, so my observation is only from those two games. But from what I can see, that team's performance would fall apart if his daughter was pulled. So, from a reasonable person's standpoint, is it really favoritism to his daughter if she gets more minutes?

🤣🤣🤣🤣 yeah no good try

I'll add if this was true, Valor could have easily fixed the whole issue by moving his daughter up to a higher team.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:On a serious note- and please no peanut gallery or trolls just spewing rubbish rumors.
How many Valor coaches are actually coaching their own kid? I only know of one that is disliked by most of the parents on the team. Are there more? Specific age group and gender please.

Serious question. I have only been in the travel soccer world for a few years but been around other travel youth sports for over a decade. Why is a parent coaching their kid in soccer such a big deal? It happens in other travel/AAU sports ALL the time and is almost the norm

I don't think it should be frowned upon if the coach remains impartial with his/her son/daughter on the team. I understand the perceptions that could come with a coach with his/her own child on the team.

The only one I know of in Valor is the 2014 girls third team. I cannot speak to how good or bad that coach is, but I've read some of the gripes about him. The only observation I can comment on, which might piss off some of the parents on his team, is that his daughter seems to be the best player on the team. I've only seen that team play two games, so my observation is only from those two games. But from what I can see, that team's performance would fall apart if his daughter was pulled. So, from a reasonable person's standpoint, is it really favoritism to his daughter if she gets more minutes?

🤣🤣🤣🤣 yeah no good try

I'll add if this was true, Valor could have easily fixed the whole issue by moving his daughter up to a higher team.

Fair point

[Anonymous]

It sounds like she was not assessed right by Valor at tryouts. No surprise.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:On a serious note- and please no peanut gallery or trolls just spewing rubbish rumors.
How many Valor coaches are actually coaching their own kid? I only know of one that is disliked by most of the parents on the team. Are there more? Specific age group and gender please.

Serious question. I have only been in the travel soccer world for a few years but been around other travel youth sports for over a decade. Why is a parent coaching their kid in soccer such a big deal? It happens in other travel/AAU sports ALL the time and is almost the norm

I don't think it should be frowned upon if the coach remains impartial with his/her son/daughter on the team. I understand the perceptions that could come with a coach with his/her own child on the team.

The only one I know of in Valor is the 2014 girls third team. I cannot speak to how good or bad that coach is, but I've read some of the gripes about him. The only observation I can comment on, which might piss off some of the parents on his team, is that his daughter seems to be the best player on the team. I've only seen that team play two games, so my observation is only from those two games. But from what I can see, that team's performance would fall apart if his daughter was pulled. So, from a reasonable person's standpoint, is it really favoritism to his daughter if she gets more minutes?

🤣🤣🤣🤣 yeah no good try

I'll add if this was true, Valor could have easily fixed the whole issue by moving his daughter up to a higher team.

Fair point

If they did that. They would lose their third team coach and we can all see they fail at hiring on general.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:On a serious note- and please no peanut gallery or trolls just spewing rubbish rumors.
How many Valor coaches are actually coaching their own kid? I only know of one that is disliked by most of the parents on the team. Are there more? Specific age group and gender please.

Serious question. I have only been in the travel soccer world for a few years but been around other travel youth sports for over a decade. Why is a parent coaching their kid in soccer such a big deal? It happens in other travel/AAU sports ALL the time and is almost the norm

I don't think it should be frowned upon if the coach remains impartial with his/her son/daughter on the team. I understand the perceptions that could come with a coach with his/her own child on the team.

The only one I know of in Valor is the 2014 girls third team. I cannot speak to how good or bad that coach is, but I've read some of the gripes about him. The only observation I can comment on, which might piss off some of the parents on his team, is that his daughter seems to be the best player on the team. I've only seen that team play two games, so my observation is only from those two games. But from what I can see, that team's performance would fall apart if his daughter was pulled. So, from a reasonable person's standpoint, is it really favoritism to his daughter if she gets more minutes?

🤣🤣🤣🤣 yeah no good try

I'll add if this was true, Valor could have easily fixed the whole issue by moving his daughter up to a higher team.

Fair point

If they did that. They would lose their third team coach and we can all see they fail at hiring on general.

So a coach that is supposedly fair and not favoring his kid would quit if he could no longer ensure an advantage for his kid?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:On a serious note- and please no peanut gallery or trolls just spewing rubbish rumors.
How many Valor coaches are actually coaching their own kid? I only know of one that is disliked by most of the parents on the team. Are there more? Specific age group and gender please.

Serious question. I have only been in the travel soccer world for a few years but been around other travel youth sports for over a decade. Why is a parent coaching their kid in soccer such a big deal? It happens in other travel/AAU sports ALL the time and is almost the norm

I don't think it should be frowned upon if the coach remains impartial with his/her son/daughter on the team. I understand the perceptions that could come with a coach with his/her own child on the team.

The only one I know of in Valor is the 2014 girls third team. I cannot speak to how good or bad that coach is, but I've read some of the gripes about him. The only observation I can comment on, which might piss off some of the parents on his team, is that his daughter seems to be the best player on the team. I've only seen that team play two games, so my observation is only from those two games. But from what I can see, that team's performance would fall apart if his daughter was pulled. So, from a reasonable person's standpoint, is it really favoritism to his daughter if she gets more minutes?

🤣🤣🤣🤣 yeah no good try

I'll add if this was true, Valor could have easily fixed the whole issue by moving his daughter up to a higher team.

Fair point

If they did that. They would lose their third team coach and we can all see they fail at hiring on general.

So a coach that is supposedly fair and not favoring his kid would quit if he could no longer ensure an advantage for his kid?

Yes. They are doing this bc they want to coach their kid. They don't want to miss all their own kid's games to coach a bunch of random players.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:On a serious note- and please no peanut gallery or trolls just spewing rubbish rumors.
How many Valor coaches are actually coaching their own kid? I only know of one that is disliked by most of the parents on the team. Are there more? Specific age group and gender please.

Serious question. I have only been in the travel soccer world for a few years but been around other travel youth sports for over a decade. Why is a parent coaching their kid in soccer such a big deal? It happens in other travel/AAU sports ALL the time and is almost the norm

I don't think it should be frowned upon if the coach remains impartial with his/her son/daughter on the team. I understand the perceptions that could come with a coach with his/her own child on the team.

The only one I know of in Valor is the 2014 girls third team. I cannot speak to how good or bad that coach is, but I've read some of the gripes about him. The only observation I can comment on, which might piss off some of the parents on his team, is that his daughter seems to be the best player on the team. I've only seen that team play two games, so my observation is only from those two games. But from what I can see, that team's performance would fall apart if his daughter was pulled. So, from a reasonable person's standpoint, is it really favoritism to his daughter if she gets more minutes?

🤣🤣🤣🤣 yeah no good try

I'll add if this was true, Valor could have easily fixed the whole issue by moving his daughter up to a higher team.

Fair point

If they did that. They would lose their third team coach and we can all see they fail at hiring on general.

Possible.

More possible is the delusional parents would then post about how a kid moved up only because her dad is a valor employee

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:On a serious note- and please no peanut gallery or trolls just spewing rubbish rumors.
How many Valor coaches are actually coaching their own kid? I only know of one that is disliked by most of the parents on the team. Are there more? Specific age group and gender please.

Serious question. I have only been in the travel soccer world for a few years but been around other travel youth sports for over a decade. Why is a parent coaching their kid in soccer such a big deal? It happens in other travel/AAU sports ALL the time and is almost the norm

I don't think it should be frowned upon if the coach remains impartial with his/her son/daughter on the team. I understand the perceptions that could come with a coach with his/her own child on the team.

The only one I know of in Valor is the 2014 girls third team. I cannot speak to how good or bad that coach is, but I've read some of the gripes about him. The only observation I can comment on, which might piss off some of the parents on his team, is that his daughter seems to be the best player on the team. I've only seen that team play two games, so my observation is only from those two games. But from what I can see, that team's performance would fall apart if his daughter was pulled. So, from a reasonable person's standpoint, is it really favoritism to his daughter if she gets more minutes?

🤣🤣🤣🤣 yeah no good try

I'll add if this was true, Valor could have easily fixed the whole issue by moving his daughter up to a higher team.

Fair point

If they did that. They would lose their third team coach and we can all see they fail at hiring on general.

Possible.

More possible is the delusional parents would then post about how a kid moved up only because her dad is a valor employee

That's no different than kid being on higher team because parents complained and threatened to leave.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:On a serious note- and please no peanut gallery or trolls just spewing rubbish rumors.
How many Valor coaches are actually coaching their own kid? I only know of one that is disliked by most of the parents on the team. Are there more? Specific age group and gender please.

Someone went thru in this thread many pages ago and counted a bunch of teams (10-@) with parents coaching their own kid. And those were just the teams people who post here mentioned or knew about, so there are likely more. That's a substantial percentage of their teams, and its almost all lower-tier teams, where parents are generally unhappier anyway. Getting a substandard experience for the same price your kid's friend pays for the "gold" team with the "real" coach is a recipe for sour customers.

Someone also went through that list and debunked some as people who didn't even have children.

Yeah that list was of coaches who do NOT have kids on their team. Another poster misunderstood what that post was trying to say, and ran with it. I think that poster was trying to say they weren't impressed with the so-called professional non parent coaches.

The only situation I know of is a 2014 boys team. The kid got moved up to the parent's team. But I heard that coach isn't going to be working with that age group next year anyway so no issue there.