Initial boundary options for Woodward study area are up

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Anonymous wrote:Don’t schools get a pretty uniform amount per student, with more for higher needs kids?

There are no high schools that receive Title 1 or Focus school funding. It is a few middle schools but mostly elementary schools. If you really cared as much as you claim, you would know this.

And yet the schools with the highest funding per student were W's.

Factually incorrect.
https://moderatelymoco.com/mcps-per-pupil-expenditure-by-each-high-school-2020-2022/

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Can we just get back to focusing on the boudnary study please.

Still find it stupid and wasteful to move kids from walkers to 45 minute bus riders.

Lol at the notion that the kids of $500k HHI parents are walking 1.5 miles to school. They'll get to Kennedy faster on the bus, they'll be thrilled.

That’s not what is referenced. Try BCC shipped to Blair.

Lol at 45 minutes.
I know you have never been that way but Blair is a 14 minute drive from Chevy Chase. Obviously, there will be stops they have to make to pick up kids, but if there are 30 minutes of stops then a lot of bus rides must currently be 45 minutes.

Blair is a 14 minute drive from Chevy Chase if you take the Beltway.

We live about 3/4 mile from BCC and get bus service, you know what time the bus comes? 6:50am. Using MCPS’ confounding bus routes and times, the pickup time in our neighborhood for Blair would likely be 6am. That’s not going to do anyone any good.

Thank you for sharing this example. My kids are younger so I didn't understand just how early bus pickup times are over the years. The idea of kids waiting outside in the winter, in the dark and cold at 6:00 a.m., not great....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Don’t schools get a pretty uniform amount per student, with more for higher needs kids?

There are no high schools that receive Title 1 or Focus school funding. It is a few middle schools but mostly elementary schools. If you really cared as much as you claim, you would know this.

And yet the schools with the highest funding per student were W's.

Factually incorrect.
https://moderatelymoco.com/mcps-per-pupil-expenditure-by-each-high-school-2020-2022/

Churchill and Wheaton get about the same amount when tells me schools don't get more funding because of their farms rates

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Don’t schools get a pretty uniform amount per student, with more for higher needs kids?

There are no high schools that receive Title 1 or Focus school funding. It is a few middle schools but mostly elementary schools. If you really cared as much as you claim, you would know this.

And yet the schools with the highest funding per student were W's.

Factually incorrect.
https://moderatelymoco.com/mcps-per-pupil-expenditure-by-each-high-school-2020-2022/

Churchill and Wheaton get about the same amount when tells me schools don't get more funding because of their farms rates

Also more funding for programs, which could have an impact on per pupil amounts. I don’t know much about either of those schools so don’t know if they have programs.


Read the MCPS link above for description of funding method.

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Also it looks like more special Ed = more funding.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Don’t schools get a pretty uniform amount per student, with more for higher needs kids?

There are no high schools that receive Title 1 or Focus school funding. It is a few middle schools but mostly elementary schools. If you really cared as much as you claim, you would know this.

And yet the schools with the highest funding per student were W's.

Factually incorrect.
https://moderatelymoco.com/mcps-per-pupil-expenditure-by-each-high-school-2020-2022/

Churchill and Wheaton get about the same amount when tells me schools don't get more funding because of their farms rates

Also more funding for programs, which could have an impact on per pupil amounts. I don’t know much about either of those schools so don’t know if they have programs.


Read the MCPS link above for description of funding method.

No idea which link you are referring to but these amounts likely use an average personnel cost for teachers even though we know low poverty schools have more experienced teachers who get paid more.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Don’t schools get a pretty uniform amount per student, with more for higher needs kids?

There are no high schools that receive Title 1 or Focus school funding. It is a few middle schools but mostly elementary schools. If you really cared as much as you claim, you would know this.

And yet the schools with the highest funding per student were W's.

Factually incorrect.
https://moderatelymoco.com/mcps-per-pupil-expenditure-by-each-high-school-2020-2022/

Churchill and Wheaton get about the same amount when tells me schools don't get more funding because of their farms rates

Also more funding for programs, which could have an impact on per pupil amounts. I don’t know much about either of those schools so don’t know if they have programs.


Read the MCPS link above for description of funding method.

No idea which link you are referring to but these amounts likely use an average personnel cost for teachers even though we know low poverty schools have more experienced teachers who get paid more.

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/budget-101/index.html

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can we just get back to focusing on the boudnary study please.

Still find it stupid and wasteful to move kids from walkers to 45 minute bus riders.

Lol at the notion that the kids of $500k HHI parents are walking 1.5 miles to school. They'll get to Kennedy faster on the bus, they'll be thrilled.

That’s not what is referenced. Try BCC shipped to Blair.

Lol at 45 minutes.
I know you have never been that way but Blair is a 14 minute drive from Chevy Chase. Obviously, there will be stops they have to make to pick up kids, but if there are 30 minutes of stops then a lot of bus rides must currently be 45 minutes.

Blair is a 14 minute drive from Chevy Chase if you take the Beltway.

We live about 3/4 mile from BCC and get bus service, you know what time the bus comes? 6:50am. Using MCPS’ confounding bus routes and times, the pickup time in our neighborhood for Blair would likely be 6am. That’s not going to do anyone any good.

Thank you for sharing this example. My kids are younger so I didn't understand just how early bus pickup times are over the years. The idea of kids waiting outside in the winter, in the dark and cold at 6:00 a.m., not great....

I recommend that you look at bus routes for Clarksburg HS. There are some neighborhoods 5 miles from the school that are zoned for it. Their pickup time is 7:08 AM.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can we just get back to focusing on the boudnary study please.

Still find it stupid and wasteful to move kids from walkers to 45 minute bus riders.

Lol at the notion that the kids of $500k HHI parents are walking 1.5 miles to school. They'll get to Kennedy faster on the bus, they'll be thrilled.

That’s not what is referenced. Try BCC shipped to Blair.

Lol at 45 minutes.
I know you have never been that way but Blair is a 14 minute drive from Chevy Chase. Obviously, there will be stops they have to make to pick up kids, but if there are 30 minutes of stops then a lot of bus rides must currently be 45 minutes.

Blair is a 14 minute drive from Chevy Chase if you take the Beltway.

We live about 3/4 mile from BCC and get bus service, you know what time the bus comes? 6:50am. Using MCPS’ confounding bus routes and times, the pickup time in our neighborhood for Blair would likely be 6am. That’s not going to do anyone any good.

Thank you for sharing this example. My kids are younger so I didn't understand just how early bus pickup times are over the years. The idea of kids waiting outside in the winter, in the dark and cold at 6:00 a.m., not great....

I recommend that you look at bus routes for Clarksburg HS. There are some neighborhoods 5 miles from the school that are zoned for it. Their pickup time is 7:08 AM.

I just looked up the BCC bus routes. The longest bus rides are 30 min to go 1.6 miles. The shortest for time is 18 min for 2.5 miles.

6.5 miles is going to take appreciably more time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can we just get back to focusing on the boudnary study please.

Still find it stupid and wasteful to move kids from walkers to 45 minute bus riders.

Lol at the notion that the kids of $500k HHI parents are walking 1.5 miles to school. They'll get to Kennedy faster on the bus, they'll be thrilled.

That’s not what is referenced. Try BCC shipped to Blair.

Lol at 45 minutes.
I know you have never been that way but Blair is a 14 minute drive from Chevy Chase. Obviously, there will be stops they have to make to pick up kids, but if there are 30 minutes of stops then a lot of bus rides must currently be 45 minutes.

Blair is a 14 minute drive from Chevy Chase if you take the Beltway.

We live about 3/4 mile from BCC and get bus service, you know what time the bus comes? 6:50am. Using MCPS’ confounding bus routes and times, the pickup time in our neighborhood for Blair would likely be 6am. That’s not going to do anyone any good.

Thank you for sharing this example. My kids are younger so I didn't understand just how early bus pickup times are over the years. The idea of kids waiting outside in the winter, in the dark and cold at 6:00 a.m., not great....

I recommend that you look at bus routes for Clarksburg HS. There are some neighborhoods 5 miles from the school that are zoned for it. Their pickup time is 7:08 AM.

I just looked up the BCC bus routes. The longest bus rides are 30 min to go 1.6 miles. The shortest for time is 18 min for 2.5 miles.

6.5 miles is going to take appreciably more time.

All else being equal the longer mileage takes more time, yes. But look at bus routes across the county. Who is getting picked up at 6am? At Northwest HS they have a neighborhood over 6 miles away from the school. They get picked up at 7:07am.

I don't know the mechanics of bus routes and I suspect neither do you, so stop pretending you know for sure what exactly it will mean for your kid.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can we just get back to focusing on the boudnary study please.

Still find it stupid and wasteful to move kids from walkers to 45 minute bus riders.

Lol at the notion that the kids of $500k HHI parents are walking 1.5 miles to school. They'll get to Kennedy faster on the bus, they'll be thrilled.

That’s not what is referenced. Try BCC shipped to Blair.

Lol at 45 minutes.
I know you have never been that way but Blair is a 14 minute drive from Chevy Chase. Obviously, there will be stops they have to make to pick up kids, but if there are 30 minutes of stops then a lot of bus rides must currently be 45 minutes.

Blair is a 14 minute drive from Chevy Chase if you take the Beltway.

We live about 3/4 mile from BCC and get bus service, you know what time the bus comes? 6:50am. Using MCPS’ confounding bus routes and times, the pickup time in our neighborhood for Blair would likely be 6am. That’s not going to do anyone any good.

Thank you for sharing this example. My kids are younger so I didn't understand just how early bus pickup times are over the years. The idea of kids waiting outside in the winter, in the dark and cold at 6:00 a.m., not great....

I recommend that you look at bus routes for Clarksburg HS. There are some neighborhoods 5 miles from the school that are zoned for it. Their pickup time is 7:08 AM.

I just looked up the BCC bus routes. The longest bus rides are 30 min to go 1.6 miles. The shortest for time is 18 min for 2.5 miles.

6.5 miles is going to take appreciably more time.

All else being equal the longer mileage takes more time, yes. But look at bus routes across the county. Who is getting picked up at 6am? At Northwest HS they have a neighborhood over 6 miles away from the school. They get picked up at 7:07am.

I don't know the mechanics of bus routes and I suspect neither do you, so stop pretending you know for sure what exactly it will mean for your kid.

You both are obnoxious. Can we move on

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can we just get back to focusing on the boudnary study please.

Still find it stupid and wasteful to move kids from walkers to 45 minute bus riders.

Lol at the notion that the kids of $500k HHI parents are walking 1.5 miles to school. They'll get to Kennedy faster on the bus, they'll be thrilled.

That’s not what is referenced. Try BCC shipped to Blair.

Lol at 45 minutes.
I know you have never been that way but Blair is a 14 minute drive from Chevy Chase. Obviously, there will be stops they have to make to pick up kids, but if there are 30 minutes of stops then a lot of bus rides must currently be 45 minutes.

Blair is a 14 minute drive from Chevy Chase if you take the Beltway.

We live about 3/4 mile from BCC and get bus service, you know what time the bus comes? 6:50am. Using MCPS’ confounding bus routes and times, the pickup time in our neighborhood for Blair would likely be 6am. That’s not going to do anyone any good.

Thank you for sharing this example. My kids are younger so I didn't understand just how early bus pickup times are over the years. The idea of kids waiting outside in the winter, in the dark and cold at 6:00 a.m., not great....

I recommend that you look at bus routes for Clarksburg HS. There are some neighborhoods 5 miles from the school that are zoned for it. Their pickup time is 7:08 AM.

I just looked up the BCC bus routes. The longest bus rides are 30 min to go 1.6 miles. The shortest for time is 18 min for 2.5 miles.

6.5 miles is going to take appreciably more time.

All else being equal the longer mileage takes more time, yes. But look at bus routes across the county. Who is getting picked up at 6am? At Northwest HS they have a neighborhood over 6 miles away from the school. They get picked up at 7:07am.

I don't know the mechanics of bus routes and I suspect neither do you, so stop pretending you know for sure what exactly it will mean for your kid.

You both are obnoxious. Can we move on

To what? Length of bus rides are is very pertinent to educational outcomes, sleep, and a host of other factors. It’s a strongly relevant feature of the boundary studies.

You don’t have to read the thread.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can we just get back to focusing on the boudnary study please.

Still find it stupid and wasteful to move kids from walkers to 45 minute bus riders.

Lol at the notion that the kids of $500k HHI parents are walking 1.5 miles to school. They'll get to Kennedy faster on the bus, they'll be thrilled.

That’s not what is referenced. Try BCC shipped to Blair.

Lol at 45 minutes.
I know you have never been that way but Blair is a 14 minute drive from Chevy Chase. Obviously, there will be stops they have to make to pick up kids, but if there are 30 minutes of stops then a lot of bus rides must currently be 45 minutes.

Blair is a 14 minute drive from Chevy Chase if you take the Beltway.

We live about 3/4 mile from BCC and get bus service, you know what time the bus comes? 6:50am. Using MCPS’ confounding bus routes and times, the pickup time in our neighborhood for Blair would likely be 6am. That’s not going to do anyone any good.

Thank you for sharing this example. My kids are younger so I didn't understand just how early bus pickup times are over the years. The idea of kids waiting outside in the winter, in the dark and cold at 6:00 a.m., not great....

I recommend that you look at bus routes for Clarksburg HS. There are some neighborhoods 5 miles from the school that are zoned for it. Their pickup time is 7:08 AM.

I just looked up the BCC bus routes. The longest bus rides are 30 min to go 1.6 miles. The shortest for time is 18 min for 2.5 miles.

6.5 miles is going to take appreciably more time.

All else being equal the longer mileage takes more time, yes. But look at bus routes across the county. Who is getting picked up at 6am? At Northwest HS they have a neighborhood over 6 miles away from the school. They get picked up at 7:07am.

I don't know the mechanics of bus routes and I suspect neither do you, so stop pretending you know for sure what exactly it will mean for your kid.

You both are obnoxious. Can we move on

I will continue to respond to people who make spurious claims about bus rides. Enjoy!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can we just get back to focusing on the boudnary study please.

Still find it stupid and wasteful to move kids from walkers to 45 minute bus riders.

Lol at the notion that the kids of $500k HHI parents are walking 1.5 miles to school. They'll get to Kennedy faster on the bus, they'll be thrilled.

That’s not what is referenced. Try BCC shipped to Blair.

Lol at 45 minutes.
I know you have never been that way but Blair is a 14 minute drive from Chevy Chase. Obviously, there will be stops they have to make to pick up kids, but if there are 30 minutes of stops then a lot of bus rides must currently be 45 minutes.

Blair is a 14 minute drive from Chevy Chase if you take the Beltway.

We live about 3/4 mile from BCC and get bus service, you know what time the bus comes? 6:50am. Using MCPS’ confounding bus routes and times, the pickup time in our neighborhood for Blair would likely be 6am. That’s not going to do anyone any good.

Thank you for sharing this example. My kids are younger so I didn't understand just how early bus pickup times are over the years. The idea of kids waiting outside in the winter, in the dark and cold at 6:00 a.m., not great....

I recommend that you look at bus routes for Clarksburg HS. There are some neighborhoods 5 miles from the school that are zoned for it. Their pickup time is 7:08 AM.

I just looked up the BCC bus routes. The longest bus rides are 30 min to go 1.6 miles. The shortest for time is 18 min for 2.5 miles.

6.5 miles is going to take appreciably more time.

All else being equal the longer mileage takes more time, yes. But look at bus routes across the county. Who is getting picked up at 6am? At Northwest HS they have a neighborhood over 6 miles away from the school. They get picked up at 7:07am.

I don't know the mechanics of bus routes and I suspect neither do you, so stop pretending you know for sure what exactly it will mean for your kid.

I looked at the relevant bus routes for the relevant case. I can make an informed guess based on the objective numbers.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can we just get back to focusing on the boudnary study please.

Still find it stupid and wasteful to move kids from walkers to 45 minute bus riders.

Lol at the notion that the kids of $500k HHI parents are walking 1.5 miles to school. They'll get to Kennedy faster on the bus, they'll be thrilled.

That’s not what is referenced. Try BCC shipped to Blair.

Lol at 45 minutes.
I know you have never been that way but Blair is a 14 minute drive from Chevy Chase. Obviously, there will be stops they have to make to pick up kids, but if there are 30 minutes of stops then a lot of bus rides must currently be 45 minutes.

Blair is a 14 minute drive from Chevy Chase if you take the Beltway.

We live about 3/4 mile from BCC and get bus service, you know what time the bus comes? 6:50am. Using MCPS’ confounding bus routes and times, the pickup time in our neighborhood for Blair would likely be 6am. That’s not going to do anyone any good.

Thank you for sharing this example. My kids are younger so I didn't understand just how early bus pickup times are over the years. The idea of kids waiting outside in the winter, in the dark and cold at 6:00 a.m., not great....

I recommend that you look at bus routes for Clarksburg HS. There are some neighborhoods 5 miles from the school that are zoned for it. Their pickup time is 7:08 AM.

I just looked up the BCC bus routes. The longest bus rides are 30 min to go 1.6 miles. The shortest for time is 18 min for 2.5 miles.

6.5 miles is going to take appreciably more time.

All else being equal the longer mileage takes more time, yes. But look at bus routes across the county. Who is getting picked up at 6am? At Northwest HS they have a neighborhood over 6 miles away from the school. They get picked up at 7:07am.

I don't know the mechanics of bus routes and I suspect neither do you, so stop pretending you know for sure what exactly it will mean for your kid.

I looked at the relevant bus routes for the relevant case. I can make an informed guess based on the objective numbers.

Yeah you just decided to add 50 minutes based on your "expertise" lol