Western High School Boundary Map options (A/B/C/D)

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Anonymous wrote:It will provide an important data point in the decision making. For example, it's going to be a useful data point in deciding moving crossfield or foxmil. That data won't affect Oakhill.

Anonymous wrote:The boundary decisions are not being made solely on opt-in numbers. That's DCUM speculation.

Gee. Why didn't they do the boundary study based on those who want to Opt-in to any school?

I do not understand this process at all.

Reid is clueless.

With how few changes they made in the grand scheme it sort of feels like that’s what they did.

I'd be very surprised if Meren supports South Lakes losing Fox Mill.

Meren doesn’t know the difference between Fox Mill and Fox Mill Woods.

I’d love to lose Meren.

If Reid’s proposal sends Fox Mill to Skyview the other board members will pass it.

Crossfield to Skyview makes so much more sense that I don't think even one board member would object if that were Reid's proposal.

What I find crazy is how Navy families are so involved in this. They are worried that if Crossfield is moved to a closer school, that they will be moved to Fairfax, which is closer to them.

And Waples Mill is also closer to Fairfax. If you look at that petition floating around you’ll see there is heavy support from both them and Navy probably for the reason you’ve suggested

I am a Navy parent, I know for a fact this is true.

Navy wants to go to fairfax.

Well say for example FCPS zones part of brookfield out of Chantilly, they would have some room for Navy as the Modular unit would still provide that.

Absolutely not.

Speak for yourself. I am a Navy parent who would much prefer Chantilly to Oakton.

The absolutely not was in response to someone saying that Navy families want to go to Fairfax High School.

So Navy families are only happy with Oakton and Chantilly?

I can't speak for all Navy parents, but both Oakton and Fairfax are kind of a hike from my house. Chantilly much closer. I guess if my kids have to do a longer commute to a high school, might as well be the best school possible. But would still prefer proximity... Chantilly or Skyview.

Do you think you’d see less pushback from Navy parents if they were in Crossfield’s position in regards to possibly being rezoned to Skyview?

Unlike certain Crossfield people I will not claim to speak for the entire Navy community. But the people I have talked to do not feel super strongly one way or the other. The ones who live in 20171 seem to be open to moving because they like the idea of a closer school. The ones who live in 22033 don’t seem to have thought about it too much because they assume it won’t affect them. I suspect some of them would push back on it because they feel more connected to Oakton, especially if they live close to Waples Mill ES. I think those people have a much better “rooted in Oakton” argument than Crazy Sports Mom and her Crossfield crew.

I’m a Crossfield parent who has advocated to move to Skyview but I do have to say this response seems disingenuous. Why would a Navy parent feel so strongly about particular personalities at Crossfield? I think PP was asking a genuine question. So much of this thread appears to be Crossfield on both sides posing as other posters. It makes me wonder if we should just rename this thread Crossfield and Fox Mill in or out of Boundary?

I agree that the person you were responding to is definitely a Crossfield parent pretending to be a Navy parent because how would they know specifics about one particular person? Who is Crazy Sports Mom and is she the PTO president people keep talking about?

You all seem pretty dense. You realize a bunch of Crossfield and Navy people know each other through outside activities and sports, right? There is no need for someone to pretend to be a Navy parent. Such a weird accusation.

I'm a Crossfield parent with an 6th grader and my kids have never been on a sports team or other activity with Navy kids. My kids and most of their friends play sports in CYA. Most of the kids in CYA are at Chantilly schools or maybe Floris/Lees Corner/Oak Hill. It's disenguous for you to say that Crossfield and Navy families all know each other really well, because unless your kid is in AAP at Navy or you live in Franklin Farm and know some people who live in the Navy Island people from swim team, you're unlikely to run into Navy families on a regular basis. I have two kids at Crossfield and the only people we know at Navy are the ones who left for AAP and my kids aren't even friends with those kids anymore. I don't know why people claim that their kids are all best friends because of one basketball game that 6th graders play one time. It's a joke.

Ok great, since you play sports in CYA a move to the new high school makes sense. Glad you're a proponent.

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Anonymous wrote:Lots of Navy kids play CYA sports.

Lots of Navy kids play CYA sports together with Crossfield kids.

It's a false argument. Just as many Floris, Oak Hill, Lees Corner, Poplar Tree, Greenbriar kids play in CYA. Nobody is arguing that their kids should go to Westfield or Chantilly to stay with those friends. I have a couple friends whose kids play Reston Hoops, they're not arguing for their kids to go to South Lakes.

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Anonymous wrote:It will provide an important data point in the decision making. For example, it's going to be a useful data point in deciding moving crossfield or foxmil. That data won't affect Oakhill.

Anonymous wrote:The boundary decisions are not being made solely on opt-in numbers. That's DCUM speculation.

Gee. Why didn't they do the boundary study based on those who want to Opt-in to any school?

I do not understand this process at all.

Reid is clueless.

With how few changes they made in the grand scheme it sort of feels like that’s what they did.

I'd be very surprised if Meren supports South Lakes losing Fox Mill.

Meren doesn’t know the difference between Fox Mill and Fox Mill Woods.

I’d love to lose Meren.

If Reid’s proposal sends Fox Mill to Skyview the other board members will pass it.

Crossfield to Skyview makes so much more sense that I don't think even one board member would object if that were Reid's proposal.

What I find crazy is how Navy families are so involved in this. They are worried that if Crossfield is moved to a closer school, that they will be moved to Fairfax, which is closer to them.

And Waples Mill is also closer to Fairfax. If you look at that petition floating around you’ll see there is heavy support from both them and Navy probably for the reason you’ve suggested

I am a Navy parent, I know for a fact this is true.

Navy wants to go to fairfax.

Well say for example FCPS zones part of brookfield out of Chantilly, they would have some room for Navy as the Modular unit would still provide that.

Absolutely not.

Speak for yourself. I am a Navy parent who would much prefer Chantilly to Oakton.

The absolutely not was in response to someone saying that Navy families want to go to Fairfax High School.

So Navy families are only happy with Oakton and Chantilly?

I can't speak for all Navy parents, but both Oakton and Fairfax are kind of a hike from my house. Chantilly much closer. I guess if my kids have to do a longer commute to a high school, might as well be the best school possible. But would still prefer proximity... Chantilly or Skyview.

Do you think you’d see less pushback from Navy parents if they were in Crossfield’s position in regards to possibly being rezoned to Skyview?

Unlike certain Crossfield people I will not claim to speak for the entire Navy community. But the people I have talked to do not feel super strongly one way or the other. The ones who live in 20171 seem to be open to moving because they like the idea of a closer school. The ones who live in 22033 don’t seem to have thought about it too much because they assume it won’t affect them. I suspect some of them would push back on it because they feel more connected to Oakton, especially if they live close to Waples Mill ES. I think those people have a much better “rooted in Oakton” argument than Crazy Sports Mom and her Crossfield crew.

I’m a Crossfield parent who has advocated to move to Skyview but I do have to say this response seems disingenuous. Why would a Navy parent feel so strongly about particular personalities at Crossfield? I think PP was asking a genuine question. So much of this thread appears to be Crossfield on both sides posing as other posters. It makes me wonder if we should just rename this thread Crossfield and Fox Mill in or out of Boundary?

I agree that the person you were responding to is definitely a Crossfield parent pretending to be a Navy parent because how would they know specifics about one particular person? Who is Crazy Sports Mom and is she the PTO president people keep talking about?

You all seem pretty dense. You realize a bunch of Crossfield and Navy people know each other through outside activities and sports, right? There is no need for someone to pretend to be a Navy parent. Such a weird accusation.

I'm a Crossfield parent with an 6th grader and my kids have never been on a sports team or other activity with Navy kids. My kids and most of their friends play sports in CYA. Most of the kids in CYA are at Chantilly schools or maybe Floris/Lees Corner/Oak Hill. It's disenguous for you to say that Crossfield and Navy families all know each other really well, because unless your kid is in AAP at Navy or you live in Franklin Farm and know some people who live in the Navy Island people from swim team, you're unlikely to run into Navy families on a regular basis. I have two kids at Crossfield and the only people we know at Navy are the ones who left for AAP and my kids aren't even friends with those kids anymore. I don't know why people claim that their kids are all best friends because of one basketball game that 6th graders play one time. It's a joke.

Ok great, since you play sports in CYA a move to the new high school makes sense. Glad you're a proponent.

But that's the reason these parents are saying their kids should go to Oakton - to stay with their Navy friends from CYA. Why can't other parents make the same argument - moving Crossfield to Western not only keeps them with friends from CYA, but it also keeps them with friends from their middle school. It is truly the logical argument. And it's much closer to a lot of families' homes.

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Or people could have different reasons for wanting different outcomes. You are not going to convince the RIO parents that Skyview will be great. You are not going to convince the people who want the shorter commute that Oakton is worht the longer drive. Someone is going to be disappointed by the outcome.

Email, call, write the school board and let them know how you feel. Attend meetings and voice your opinion. You are not changing anyones mind on this site.

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Anonymous wrote:Or people could have different reasons for wanting different outcomes. You are not going to convince the RIO parents that Skyview will be great. You are not going to convince the people who want the shorter commute that Oakton is worht the longer drive. Someone is going to be disappointed by the outcome.

Email, call, write the school board and let them know how you feel. Attend meetings and voice your opinion. You are not changing anyones mind on this site.

And herein lies the problem. The school board wants to take feelings into account instead of just making a decision based on logistics. If someone is going to be unhappy either way, might as well make decisions that make the most sense financially and logistically.

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Anonymous wrote:Or people could have different reasons for wanting different outcomes. You are not going to convince the RIO parents that Skyview will be great. You are not going to convince the people who want the shorter commute that Oakton is worht the longer drive. Someone is going to be disappointed by the outcome.

Email, call, write the school board and let them know how you feel. Attend meetings and voice your opinion. You are not changing anyones mind on this site.

And herein lies the problem. The school board wants to take feelings into account instead of just making a decision based on logistics. If someone is going to be unhappy either way, might as well make decisions that make the most sense financially and logistically.

This is true but it’s borne of their incompetence when it came to making decisions based on logistics. They hired an outside consultant earlier during the county-wide review who made a series of stupid proposals that defied logic. They were so taken aback by the negative impact that they just ended up outsourcing decisions to the loudest parents.

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Anonymous wrote:Or people could have different reasons for wanting different outcomes. You are not going to convince the RIO parents that Skyview will be great. You are not going to convince the people who want the shorter commute that Oakton is worht the longer drive. Someone is going to be disappointed by the outcome.

Email, call, write the school board and let them know how you feel. Attend meetings and voice your opinion. You are not changing anyones mind on this site.

And herein lies the problem. The school board wants to take feelings into account instead of just making a decision based on logistics. If someone is going to be unhappy either way, might as well make decisions that make the most sense financially and logistically.

What you deem as making most sense differs from others, there are different metrics that can be used. What you have in your control is letting the School Board and Reid know what you think is important and why and expressing what you think makes sense. They will make a decision based on what they hear and balance that with their own internal values.

You control what you tell the powers that be and how you do so. Going back and forth on this board is not going to accomplish anything other then ramping up your blood pressure. Email your reps, attend the meetings you can attend. Do what you can do.

You think the logistics make most sense because that is the answer that gives you the answer that you want. Other people have different metrics. Advocate for what is important to you but the cyclical back and forth on this site is not going to get you what you want. If you think that people are not sharing their feelings with the board because they are afraid of speaking out, you need to figure out how to help tthem get over that if it is important to you.

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Anonymous wrote:Or people could have different reasons for wanting different outcomes. You are not going to convince the RIO parents that Skyview will be great. You are not going to convince the people who want the shorter commute that Oakton is worht the longer drive. Someone is going to be disappointed by the outcome.

Email, call, write the school board and let them know how you feel. Attend meetings and voice your opinion. You are not changing anyones mind on this site.

And herein lies the problem. The school board wants to take feelings into account instead of just making a decision based on logistics. If someone is going to be unhappy either way, might as well make decisions that make the most sense financially and logistically.

What you deem as making most sense differs from others, there are different metrics that can be used. What you have in your control is letting the School Board and Reid know what you think is important and why and expressing what you think makes sense. They will make a decision based on what they hear and balance that with their own internal values.

You control what you tell the powers that be and how you do so. Going back and forth on this board is not going to accomplish anything other then ramping up your blood pressure. Email your reps, attend the meetings you can attend. Do what you can do.

You think the logistics make most sense because that is the answer that gives you the answer that you want. Other people have different metrics. Advocate for what is important to you but the cyclical back and forth on this site is not going to get you what you want. If you think that people are not sharing their feelings with the board because they are afraid of speaking out, you need to figure out how to help tthem get over that if it is important to you.

Spare us the lecture. We’re all past the “trust the process” BS by now.

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Anonymous wrote:Or people could have different reasons for wanting different outcomes. You are not going to convince the RIO parents that Skyview will be great. You are not going to convince the people who want the shorter commute that Oakton is worht the longer drive. Someone is going to be disappointed by the outcome.

Email, call, write the school board and let them know how you feel. Attend meetings and voice your opinion. You are not changing anyones mind on this site.

And herein lies the problem. The school board wants to take feelings into account instead of just making a decision based on logistics. If someone is going to be unhappy either way, might as well make decisions that make the most sense financially and logistically.

100% this

I do think community input should be taken into account, but community input in regards to logistical challenges that the people drawing the boundaries may not be aware of.

For example, the person drawing the boundary might not take into account that even though a neighborhood may be contiguous to other areas going to a school on a map, they are effectively creating an island due to being across a highway from the rest of that school's community and it would be logistically easier to zone them to a school on the other side of that highway (and no mommas, the major road your kids cross on their bicycles to go get ice cream after school does not count).

However, "we want to stay with kids our children do after school activities with" or "this high school is a highly ranked school" just doesn't matter. Your kids will still do sports with those kids, they'll still see their friends outside of school. As for ranking, a high achieving kid will be successful in any school. If the school's specific curriculum really matters, then you can pupil place your child there. But both of those things - social aspects and school reputation - should not be taken into consideration with boundaries.

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Anonymous wrote:Or people could have different reasons for wanting different outcomes. You are not going to convince the RIO parents that Skyview will be great. You are not going to convince the people who want the shorter commute that Oakton is worht the longer drive. Someone is going to be disappointed by the outcome.

Email, call, write the school board and let them know how you feel. Attend meetings and voice your opinion. You are not changing anyones mind on this site.

And herein lies the problem. The school board wants to take feelings into account instead of just making a decision based on logistics. If someone is going to be unhappy either way, might as well make decisions that make the most sense financially and logistically.

100% this

I do think community input should be taken into account, but community input in regards to logistical challenges that the people drawing the boundaries may not be aware of.

For example, the person drawing the boundary might not take into account that even though a neighborhood may be contiguous to other areas going to a school on a map, they are effectively creating an island due to being across a highway from the rest of that school's community and it would be logistically easier to zone them to a school on the other side of that highway (and no mommas, the major road your kids cross on their bicycles to go get ice cream after school does not count).

However, "we want to stay with kids our children do after school activities with" or "this high school is a highly ranked school" just doesn't matter. Your kids will still do sports with those kids, they'll still see their friends outside of school. As for ranking, a high achieving kid will be successful in any school. If the school's specific curriculum really matters, then you can pupil place your child there. But both of those things - social aspects and school reputation - should not be taken into consideration with boundaries.

Also, for example--the new school.

The community affected made it clear they wanted a traditional high school. But, Reid wants a magnet. Is she using the protests from a community that should "logically" go to the new school as an excuse to create a magnet?

My fear is that the traditional school needed will be watered down with a magnet and result with "in boundary" kids being deprived of a traditional school experience.

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Anonymous wrote:Or people could have different reasons for wanting different outcomes. You are not going to convince the RIO parents that Skyview will be great. You are not going to convince the people who want the shorter commute that Oakton is worht the longer drive. Someone is going to be disappointed by the outcome.

Email, call, write the school board and let them know how you feel. Attend meetings and voice your opinion. You are not changing anyones mind on this site.

And herein lies the problem. The school board wants to take feelings into account instead of just making a decision based on logistics. If someone is going to be unhappy either way, might as well make decisions that make the most sense financially and logistically.

100% this

I do think community input should be taken into account, but community input in regards to logistical challenges that the people drawing the boundaries may not be aware of.

For example, the person drawing the boundary might not take into account that even though a neighborhood may be contiguous to other areas going to a school on a map, they are effectively creating an island due to being across a highway from the rest of that school's community and it would be logistically easier to zone them to a school on the other side of that highway (and no mommas, the major road your kids cross on their bicycles to go get ice cream after school does not count).

However, "we want to stay with kids our children do after school activities with" or "this high school is a highly ranked school" just doesn't matter. Your kids will still do sports with those kids, they'll still see their friends outside of school. As for ranking, a high achieving kid will be successful in any school. If the school's specific curriculum really matters, then you can pupil place your child there. But both of those things - social aspects and school reputation - should not be taken into consideration with boundaries.

Also, for example--the new school.

The community affected made it clear they wanted a traditional high school. But, Reid wants a magnet. Is she using the protests from a community that should "logically" go to the new school as an excuse to create a magnet?

My fear is that the traditional school needed will be watered down with a magnet and result with "in boundary" kids being deprived of a traditional school experience.

Do you hear anyone at Chantilly or Edison complaining about the lack of a traditional experience? So why do you think that the pathways are going to deter from the traditional experience? I don't understand.

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Anonymous wrote:Or people could have different reasons for wanting different outcomes. You are not going to convince the RIO parents that Skyview will be great. You are not going to convince the people who want the shorter commute that Oakton is worht the longer drive. Someone is going to be disappointed by the outcome.

Email, call, write the school board and let them know how you feel. Attend meetings and voice your opinion. You are not changing anyones mind on this site.

And herein lies the problem. The school board wants to take feelings into account instead of just making a decision based on logistics. If someone is going to be unhappy either way, might as well make decisions that make the most sense financially and logistically.

What you deem as making most sense differs from others, there are different metrics that can be used. What you have in your control is letting the School Board and Reid know what you think is important and why and expressing what you think makes sense. They will make a decision based on what they hear and balance that with their own internal values.

You control what you tell the powers that be and how you do so. Going back and forth on this board is not going to accomplish anything other then ramping up your blood pressure. Email your reps, attend the meetings you can attend. Do what you can do.

You think the logistics make most sense because that is the answer that gives you the answer that you want. Other people have different metrics. Advocate for what is important to you but the cyclical back and forth on this site is not going to get you what you want. If you think that people are not sharing their feelings with the board because they are afraid of speaking out, you need to figure out how to help tthem get over that if it is important to you.

Spare us the lecture. We’re all past the “trust the process” BS by now.

Yes, so repeating the same complaints over and over here is totally going to help you. Got it.

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Anonymous wrote:Or people could have different reasons for wanting different outcomes. You are not going to convince the RIO parents that Skyview will be great. You are not going to convince the people who want the shorter commute that Oakton is worht the longer drive. Someone is going to be disappointed by the outcome.

Email, call, write the school board and let them know how you feel. Attend meetings and voice your opinion. You are not changing anyones mind on this site.

And herein lies the problem. The school board wants to take feelings into account instead of just making a decision based on logistics. If someone is going to be unhappy either way, might as well make decisions that make the most sense financially and logistically.

100% this

I do think community input should be taken into account, but community input in regards to logistical challenges that the people drawing the boundaries may not be aware of.

For example, the person drawing the boundary might not take into account that even though a neighborhood may be contiguous to other areas going to a school on a map, they are effectively creating an island due to being across a highway from the rest of that school's community and it would be logistically easier to zone them to a school on the other side of that highway (and no mommas, the major road your kids cross on their bicycles to go get ice cream after school does not count).

However, "we want to stay with kids our children do after school activities with" or "this high school is a highly ranked school" just doesn't matter. Your kids will still do sports with those kids, they'll still see their friends outside of school. As for ranking, a high achieving kid will be successful in any school. If the school's specific curriculum really matters, then you can pupil place your child there. But both of those things - social aspects and school reputation - should not be taken into consideration with boundaries.

Also, for example--the new school.

The community affected made it clear they wanted a traditional high school. But, Reid wants a magnet. Is she using the protests from a community that should "logically" go to the new school as an excuse to create a magnet?

My fear is that the traditional school needed will be watered down with a magnet and result with "in boundary" kids being deprived of a traditional school experience.

Do you hear anyone at Chantilly or Edison complaining about the lack of a traditional experience? So why do you think that the pathways are going to deter from the traditional experience? I don't understand.

When the pathways get more attention that setting the boundaries, there is a problem.

And, we love Chantilly. But, Chantilly would be just fine with or without them. It appears that Reid is trying to make the pathways more important than the traditional school. That is NOT the case at Chantilly. If she fills up the magnet part of the school (or "pathways" ) without facilitating the traditional school demands, there is a huge problem. This would not be fair to the community that just wants a high school for their kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Or people could have different reasons for wanting different outcomes. You are not going to convince the RIO parents that Skyview will be great. You are not going to convince the people who want the shorter commute that Oakton is worht the longer drive. Someone is going to be disappointed by the outcome.

Email, call, write the school board and let them know how you feel. Attend meetings and voice your opinion. You are not changing anyones mind on this site.

And herein lies the problem. The school board wants to take feelings into account instead of just making a decision based on logistics. If someone is going to be unhappy either way, might as well make decisions that make the most sense financially and logistically.

100% this

I do think community input should be taken into account, but community input in regards to logistical challenges that the people drawing the boundaries may not be aware of.

For example, the person drawing the boundary might not take into account that even though a neighborhood may be contiguous to other areas going to a school on a map, they are effectively creating an island due to being across a highway from the rest of that school's community and it would be logistically easier to zone them to a school on the other side of that highway (and no mommas, the major road your kids cross on their bicycles to go get ice cream after school does not count).

However, "we want to stay with kids our children do after school activities with" or "this high school is a highly ranked school" just doesn't matter. Your kids will still do sports with those kids, they'll still see their friends outside of school. As for ranking, a high achieving kid will be successful in any school. If the school's specific curriculum really matters, then you can pupil place your child there. But both of those things - social aspects and school reputation - should not be taken into consideration with boundaries.

Also, for example--the new school.

The community affected made it clear they wanted a traditional high school. But, Reid wants a magnet. Is she using the protests from a community that should "logically" go to the new school as an excuse to create a magnet?

My fear is that the traditional school needed will be watered down with a magnet and result with "in boundary" kids being deprived of a traditional school experience.

Do you hear anyone at Chantilly or Edison complaining about the lack of a traditional experience? So why do you think that the pathways are going to deter from the traditional experience? I don't understand.

When the pathways get more attention that setting the boundaries, there is a problem.

And, we love Chantilly. But, Chantilly would be just fine with or without them. It appears that Reid is trying to make the pathways more important than the traditional school. That is NOT the case at Chantilly. If she fills up the magnet part of the school (or "pathways" ) without facilitating the traditional school demands, there is a huge problem. This would not be fair to the community that just wants a high school for their kids.

They have posted the electives for the pathways. You can take those or not. The boundaries will determine who attends the school, it is not a magnet. This first year is opt-in because of the ridiculous process that they are going through. Once the boundaries are decided the only opt-in option will be through pupil placement like every other school in the County.

People are getting stuck on the one year opt-in and are acting like that is going to stick around. There has not been a virtual meeting or twn hall meeting where anyone has said that the opt-in will stay in place after this first year. Which means it won’t be a magnet. It will have traditional boundaries. It will offer AP classes. It will have specialized programs that the kids at the school can take. How is that any different then Chantilly or Edison? Kids not interested in those pathways will have options for music and theatre and other electives like they would at other schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Or people could have different reasons for wanting different outcomes. You are not going to convince the RIO parents that Skyview will be great. You are not going to convince the people who want the shorter commute that Oakton is worht the longer drive. Someone is going to be disappointed by the outcome.

Email, call, write the school board and let them know how you feel. Attend meetings and voice your opinion. You are not changing anyones mind on this site.

And herein lies the problem. The school board wants to take feelings into account instead of just making a decision based on logistics. If someone is going to be unhappy either way, might as well make decisions that make the most sense financially and logistically.

100% this

I do think community input should be taken into account, but community input in regards to logistical challenges that the people drawing the boundaries may not be aware of.

For example, the person drawing the boundary might not take into account that even though a neighborhood may be contiguous to other areas going to a school on a map, they are effectively creating an island due to being across a highway from the rest of that school's community and it would be logistically easier to zone them to a school on the other side of that highway (and no mommas, the major road your kids cross on their bicycles to go get ice cream after school does not count).

However, "we want to stay with kids our children do after school activities with" or "this high school is a highly ranked school" just doesn't matter. Your kids will still do sports with those kids, they'll still see their friends outside of school. As for ranking, a high achieving kid will be successful in any school. If the school's specific curriculum really matters, then you can pupil place your child there. But both of those things - social aspects and school reputation - should not be taken into consideration with boundaries.

Also, for example--the new school.

The community affected made it clear they wanted a traditional high school. But, Reid wants a magnet. Is she using the protests from a community that should "logically" go to the new school as an excuse to create a magnet?

My fear is that the traditional school needed will be watered down with a magnet and result with "in boundary" kids being deprived of a traditional school experience.

Do you hear anyone at Chantilly or Edison complaining about the lack of a traditional experience? So why do you think that the pathways are going to deter from the traditional experience? I don't understand.

DP. Chantilly and Edison were traditional schools with large enrollments before Academy programs were added. In Skyview’s case, it’s possible they are going to draw small boundaries and then have large numbers of kids transfer in for the pathways programs. If that happens, it will be the “hybrid”Reid wanted, but less of a community school.