UHC CEO Gunned Down in Midtown Manhattan

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Anonymous wrote:When they said he ran across Central Park I thought that made such good sense—that he had stashed a bag with change of shirt and jacket and new fake ID, and would easily be able to ditch the gun in the park and make it really hard to find. But it seems like he did none of that. If he had fresh clothes and new bag and ID, he could have stayed on that bus until Oregon and disappeared forever.

Yes. If he'd not put down his mask, too. Plus, if he had not stopped in Altoona. You will look much weirder with a mask in Altoona than with a mask in NYC.

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Anonymous wrote:I can't believe some of you thought he was good looking. He's hideous.

He looks good in his old pics. He is way skinny now and looks rough. He has reported missing November 18th by his family so he probably hasn’t been taking care of himself well.

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Anonymous wrote:He’s probably got bipolar and is in a mixed state. Just watched the video and that kid is not well. Sad.

He looked like a wet rat in the McD's photos.

He looks downright enraged here:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/luigi-mangione-rages-about-insult-to-the-american-people-before-unitedhealthcare-murder-extradition-hearing/ar-AA1vCgvb

He probably couldn’t get a hotel without a credit card or valid id. He was probably wandering around Altoona and sleeping outside for multiple days.

I read he had come off of a Greyhound bus that stopped at McDonalds.

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Anonymous wrote:I can't believe some of you thought he was good looking. He's hideous.

Yes, he looks really bad. I also suggested Justin Baldoni could play him in movie. Baldoni looks like a nicer looking version of him.

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Anonymous wrote:When they said he ran across Central Park I thought that made such good sense—that he had stashed a bag with change of shirt and jacket and new fake ID, and would easily be able to ditch the gun in the park and make it really hard to find. But it seems like he did none of that. If he had fresh clothes and new bag and ID, he could have stayed on that bus until Oregon and disappeared forever.

Yes. If he'd not put down his mask, too. Plus, if he had not stopped in Altoona. You will look much weirder with a mask in Altoona than with a mask in NYC.

the mask drew attention and, paradoxically, helped identify him. after the pictures came out, he was safer without mask.

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Anonymous wrote:In case you are one of those who are morally confused:

Good guy: Daniel Penny
Bad Guy: Luigi Mangione

+1

There are lots of seriously twisted and perverted people out there. So much justification over an assassination. There are people comparing this to what the founding fathers did for political change and text pretzel logic to reach those conclusions.

I think there's a LOT of righteous anger in this country towards the insurance industry. Righteous.

Sure, some people try to game the system. Those individuals pale in comparison to how the insurance industry is gaming the system.

If you can't understand these simple facts, neither I nor anyone else can help you.

So far as the vast majority of people are concerned, the murder of a corrupt, crooked member of this perverted insurance scam industry was a *shrug* event.

You must work in the insurance industry if you can't appreciate the frustration and anger the average America feels.

I don’t work for the insurance industry and I have had claims denied by insurance companies. I understand there is a lot of frustration, but frustration does not make murder acceptable. I bet you yourself feel frustration about many things. I bet you feel frustrations over things like politics, but you’re not going to go out and assassinate a politician, a president or a CEO. Just because you’re frustrated does not mean murder is acceptable.

If you’re advocating for people assassinating people they’re frustrated with well then I can’t help you understand how wrong it is.

What Luigi did wasn’t heroic. In fact, he was a coward. He shot the man in the back. He didn’t even have the righteous indignation or guts to say something to his face.

I am telling you that people are frustrated and angry. Where did I state I am advocating for murder?

Please read what I stated again.

The industry needs to get overhauled with closer regulation. Sure, they shouldn't be required to cover weight loss medication for cosmetic reasons. Sure, they shouldn't be required to cover every politicized and popular medical procedure that is not medically necessary. But denying and delaying medically critical covered procedures is immoral, unethical, and inexcusable. BC/BS trying to limit anesthesia in the middle of a complicated surgery is BEYOND reasonable denial. They were going for it. BC/BS was really going for it.

Discussions of the proposed BCBS policy have been insane. Anesthesiologists' lobbying firm deserves a huge bonus.

Obviously they weren't going to wake people up in the middle of the surgery. The idea was clearly to limit billing and reimbursement based on how long the procedure should have taken. Kind of like a mechanic billing you for labor hours based on the book times. If they opened you up and found another problem, then that could and would be added to the claim.

Yes, sometimes one case will take a little bit longer than another case, and you'll get paid the same for both, but that's pretty normal. This is basically how it works for other doctors.

This is a weird thing to complain about when people generally want to know how much a procedure will cost before going in.

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A big insurer backed off its plan to pay less for anesthesia. That’s bad.
https://www.vox.com/policy/390031/anthem-blue-cross-blue-shield-anesthesia-limits-insurance

I found the salary discrepancy in this article interesting. DCUM posters often claim DMV providers need to go concierge to make ends meet, to live in this area or pay off student loans. Doctors seem to be getting by in Paris and Berlin on way less.

PP, you don’t have your thinking cap on today. Of course European doctors can get by on less, because the cost of living is much less in Europe!

Think about it: no need to save for a six figure college education for one or multiple kids (easily reaching the millions); you won’t go bankrupt from exorbitant medical fees, the cost of eating out and the cost of food and wine is significantly less than here, and aside from the most high end addresses in Berlin or Paris, real estate is far less as well!

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14177405/Luigi-Mangione-Unitedhealthcare-CEO-brian-thompson-shooter-family-manifesto.html

He started yelling at the courthouse today at the cameras that someone (I couldn’t tell if he meant the cops or the news or whoever) was ‘completely out of touch' and 'insulting the intelligence of the American people'. This trial is going to be a ride. We now have footage of cops shoving Americas favorite criminal into the wall.

I have to admit that was very dramatic. Straight out of the movies.

If I saw the picture and I knew him, I would’ve thought it looked like him, but I wouldn’t actually thought it was him. I would not have called it in because I just wouldn’t have believed it was him.

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ugh. he looks gross. nasty.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think people realize how many innocent people are killed by way of limiting access to affordable healthcare in this country by none other than Brian Thompson and those like him leading private health insurance companies.

This kid murdered Thompson in cold blood publicly and got caught.

That's the difference. If you saw even one insurance case of a family at their wits end trying to get a claim approved to help their loved one, I'm not sure how you would not feel that it's a kind of murder or your torture. Because these things are not put forth on a public forum enacted as a play for all to see, it's considered acceptable.

It's very much cold blooded murder however. Ask anyone who has worked a length of time in the healthcare industries.

Why are you blaming the insurer and not the hospitals and doctors for their outrageous charges? The insurance industry evolved because hospitals and doctors were just charging whatever they wanted and ordering procedures for anything and everything until just paying claims became unsustainable.

This is correct, both sides are to blame. The entire industry needs to be regulated.

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Anonymous wrote:ugh. he looks gross. nasty.

the reddit crowd still think he’s dreamy

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Anonymous wrote:He’s probably got bipolar and is in a mixed state. Just watched the video and that kid is not well. Sad.

I wonder if he always had mental illness and his family was just able to manage it extremely well. It sounds like he was living in California away from family post surgery and probably couldn’t manage and was also doing drugs and lost it.

The fact that he made it through undergrad, a masters program, and lived on the other side of the states suggests that his mental health was fine prior to 2022.

- parent of bipolar young adult

[Anonymous]

Still looks fine to me.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think people realize how many innocent people are killed by way of limiting access to affordable healthcare in this country by none other than Brian Thompson and those like him leading private health insurance companies.

This kid murdered Thompson in cold blood publicly and got caught.

That's the difference. If you saw even one insurance case of a family at their wits end trying to get a claim approved to help their loved one, I'm not sure how you would not feel that it's a kind of murder or your torture. Because these things are not put forth on a public forum enacted as a play for all to see, it's considered acceptable.

It's very much cold blooded murder however. Ask anyone who has worked a length of time in the healthcare industries.

Why are you blaming the insurer and not the hospitals and doctors for their outrageous charges? The insurance industry evolved because hospitals and doctors were just charging whatever they wanted and ordering procedures for anything and everything until just paying claims became unsustainable.

No, that's not why insurance industry evolved. Nobody can charge whatever they want because there will be someone else charging less. That's how markets work.

Insurance industry evolved because small number of people needs very expensive treatments. As a result, everyone is supposed to pay a little, and those unlucky to need these treatments can use the money. This is how insurance work in every area except US healthcare.

Here, we are paying "insurance" as a way to cover routine procedures + to gather benefits of insurance companies squeeze from hospitals through bargaining power. This dynamic, in addition to employed-based health insurance, is at the core of disfunction.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14177405/Luigi-Mangione-Unitedhealthcare-CEO-brian-thompson-shooter-family-manifesto.html

He started yelling at the courthouse today at the cameras that someone (I couldn’t tell if he meant the cops or the news or whoever) was ‘completely out of touch' and 'insulting the intelligence of the American people'. This trial is going to be a ride. We now have footage of cops shoving Americas favorite criminal into the wall.

I have to admit that was very dramatic. Straight out of the movies.

If I saw the picture and I knew him, I would’ve thought it looked like him, but I wouldn’t actually thought it was him. I would not have called it in because I just wouldn’t have believed it was him.

He wants to litigate this in the press before his lawyer tells him to stop speaking. If he’s silent, he’s not keeping the “conversation” going.