UHC CEO Gunned Down in Midtown Manhattan

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Anonymous wrote:So lots of people in Baltimore, including his family must have recognized his photo from the news, but nobody turned him in?

+1 random McDonald’s worker ids him but not one of his 30 cousins do?

Ah, you're the type that rats out family...

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14177405/Luigi-Mangione-Unitedhealthcare-CEO-brian-thompson-shooter-family-manifesto.html

He started yelling at the courthouse today at the cameras that someone (I couldn’t tell if he meant the cops or the news or whoever) was ‘completely out of touch' and 'insulting the intelligence of the American people'. This trial is going to be a ride. We now have footage of cops shoving Americas favorite criminal into the wall.

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Anonymous wrote:In case you are one of those who are morally confused:

Good guy: Daniel Penny
Bad Guy: Luigi Mangione

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There are lots of seriously twisted and perverted people out there. So much justification over an assassination. There are people comparing this to what the founding fathers did for political change and text pretzel logic to reach those conclusions.

I think there's a LOT of righteous anger in this country towards the insurance industry. Righteous.

Sure, some people try to game the system. Those individuals pale in comparison to how the insurance industry is gaming the system.

If you can't understand these simple facts, neither I nor anyone else can help you.

So far as the vast majority of people are concerned, the murder of a corrupt, crooked member of this perverted insurance scam industry was a *shrug* event.

You must work in the insurance industry if you can't appreciate the frustration and anger the average America feels.

I don’t work for the insurance industry and I have had claims denied by insurance companies. I understand there is a lot of frustration, but frustration does not make murder acceptable. I bet you yourself feel frustration about many things. I bet you feel frustrations over things like politics, but you’re not going to go out and assassinate a politician, a president or a CEO. Just because you’re frustrated does not mean murder is acceptable.

If you’re advocating for people assassinating people they’re frustrated with well then I can’t help you understand how wrong it is.

What Luigi did wasn’t heroic. In fact, he was a coward. He shot the man in the back. He didn’t even have the righteous indignation or guts to say something to his face.

I am telling you that people are frustrated and angry. Where did I state I am advocating for murder?

Please read what I stated again.

The industry needs to get overhauled with closer regulation. Sure, they shouldn't be required to cover weight loss medication for cosmetic reasons. Sure, they shouldn't be required to cover every politicized and popular medical procedure that is not medically necessary. But denying and delaying medically critical covered procedures is immoral, unethical, and inexcusable. BC/BS trying to limit anesthesia in the middle of a complicated surgery is BEYOND reasonable denial. They were going for it. BC/BS was really going for it.

Discussions of the proposed BCBS policy have been insane. Anesthesiologists' lobbying firm deserves a huge bonus.

Obviously they weren't going to wake people up in the middle of the surgery. The idea was clearly to limit billing and reimbursement based on how long the procedure should have taken. Kind of like a mechanic billing you for labor hours based on the book times. If they opened you up and found another problem, then that could and would be added to the claim.

Yes, sometimes one case will take a little bit longer than another case, and you'll get paid the same for both, but that's pretty normal. This is basically how it works for other doctors.

This is a weird thing to complain about when people generally want to know how much a procedure will cost before going in.

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A big insurer backed off its plan to pay less for anesthesia. That’s bad.
https://www.vox.com/policy/390031/anthem-blue-cross-blue-shield-anesthesia-limits-insurance

Many pages ago, a poster asked why health care costs are so much higher than other countries. Anesthesiologists are just one of many reasons, but it's a big one. As an example, the most expensive part of a colonoscopy is the anesthesia, not the gastroenterologist. And that's for a procedure where the gastroenterologist themselves could administer and monitor the anesthesia, but they don't want to piss off the anesthesiologists that they need for the more complicated cases. So the anesthesiologists typically come in for every case, resulting in much higher costs. Colonoscopies are great deals for anesthesiologists.

I just had a colonoscopy. I had a nurse anesthetist administer the anesthesia. She was overseen by the gastroenterologist. No anesthesiologist was present.

Same

YOU will still get billed the same for general anaesthesia, whether a CRNA does it or a MD does it. Only difference is the hospital gets to pay the CRNA less. Other countries don’t use general anaesthesia at all for colonoscopies or EGDs. They either use nothing or light conscious sedation.

I didn’t think “general anesthesia “ was used for colonoscopies? There’s no tube down your throat. In fact, I’ve not had general anesthesia for lots of surgeries (knees, bunion, etc.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14177405/Luigi-Mangione-Unitedhealthcare-CEO-brian-thompson-shooter-family-manifesto.html

He started yelling at the courthouse today at the cameras that someone (I couldn’t tell if he meant the cops or the news or whoever) was ‘completely out of touch' and 'insulting the intelligence of the American people'. This trial is going to be a ride. We now have footage of cops shoving Americas favorite criminal into the wall.

He needs to chill out. He's going to come across as "dangerous angry man" if he has outbursts. If he plays it cool and just flashes a few smiles, people will love him even more.

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Anonymous wrote:So lots of people in Baltimore, including his family must have recognized his photo from the news, but nobody turned him in?

If I were a neighbor/friend, I would think, "wow, the guy in that photo looks like Luigi," but I would never believe it was ACTUALLY Luigi or call it in, based on his background/education. Stupid, I know, but that's the truth.

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Anonymous wrote:He’s probably got bipolar and is in a mixed state. Just watched the video and that kid is not well. Sad.

I wonder if he always had mental illness and his family was just able to manage it extremely well. It sounds like he was living in California away from family post surgery and probably couldn’t manage and was also doing drugs and lost it.

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Anonymous wrote:So lots of people in Baltimore, including his family must have recognized his photo from the news, but nobody turned him in?

The same people were complicit in harboring multiple pedophiles at Gilman. Better to keep your reputation intact and let a few people suffer than do the right thing.

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Anonymous wrote:He’s probably got bipolar and is in a mixed state. Just watched the video and that kid is not well. Sad.

I wonder if he always had mental illness and his family was just able to manage it extremely well. It sounds like he was living in California away from family post surgery and probably couldn’t manage and was also doing drugs and lost it.

There does appear to be some relationship between high IQ and bipolar disorder...

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Anonymous wrote:So lots of people in Baltimore, including his family must have recognized his photo from the news, but nobody turned him in?

If I were a neighbor/friend, I would think, "wow, the guy in that photo looks like Luigi," but I would never believe it was ACTUALLY Luigi or call it in, based on his background/education. Stupid, I know, but that's the truth.

Exactly. The pictures actually looked like someone I know which gave me a chuckle but it’s not like I was going to call the police and give the name of this person who is a successful professional and I knew was not the shooter. People who knew Luigi likely had the same reaction but were just incorrect.

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Anonymous wrote:He’s probably got bipolar and is in a mixed state. Just watched the video and that kid is not well. Sad.

He looked like a wet rat in the McD's photos.

He looks downright enraged here:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/luigi-mangione-rages-about-insult-to-the-american-people-before-unitedhealthcare-murder-extradition-hearing/ar-AA1vCgvb

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Anonymous wrote:He’s probably got bipolar and is in a mixed state. Just watched the video and that kid is not well. Sad.

He looked like a wet rat in the McD's photos.

He looks downright enraged here:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/luigi-mangione-rages-about-insult-to-the-american-people-before-unitedhealthcare-murder-extradition-hearing/ar-AA1vCgvb

He probably couldn’t get a hotel without a credit card or valid id. He was probably wandering around Altoona and sleeping outside for multiple days.

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Anonymous wrote:When they said he ran across Central Park I thought that made such good sense—that he had stashed a bag with change of shirt and jacket and new fake ID, and would easily be able to ditch the gun in the park and make it really hard to find. But it seems like he did none of that. If he had fresh clothes and new bag and ID, he could have stayed on that bus until Oregon and disappeared forever.

He should have used his rich pretty privilege to his advantage and threw on a Penn sweatshirt and nobody would have batted an eye at him. He probably look insane in that McDonalds

He really could have disappeared forever. He was sloppy. WHY? He should have ditched the gun ASAP.

It’s possible he wanted to kill himself and/or others. Aka Andrew Cunanan. Manifesto wasn’t just about that one guy.

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Anonymous wrote:He’s probably got bipolar and is in a mixed state. Just watched the video and that kid is not well. Sad.

He looked like a wet rat in the McD's photos.

He looks downright enraged here:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/luigi-mangione-rages-about-insult-to-the-american-people-before-unitedhealthcare-murder-extradition-hearing/ar-AA1vCgvb

He’s a real Gen Z hero raging about “lived experience”. He’s about to have some interesting new lived experiences. I wonder if he will ever get stabilized enough to realize what he did.

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t post it here but google The Allopathic Complex and Its Consequences. It’s the manifesto. His mother suffered from debilitating pain and UnitedHealthCare was not helpful. Then he suffered his own back pain.

I read that but I think it is fake. It did not contain talk of average life expectancy nor of the “parasites,” did it?

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I can't believe some of you thought he was good looking. He's hideous.