2030 Girls Lacrosse

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Anonymous wrote:I thought the DMV 2030 parents were ridiculous but add in the B-more parents, and this just became pure gold! Keep it up.

Pretty sure one of the main HG parents complaining is actually from the DMV... Known complainer.

I mean I get it, adding another player to take away from your kid getting looks right before colleges actually start paying attention is rough

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Anonymous wrote:I think 50% playtime only applies to showcase tournaments. Championship tournaments they still play to win.

I got questions about this and the few prior posts on playing time come HS:

—Aren’t most HS tournaments showcase?
—Is the distinction made between equal playing time vs 50% of the game just because if <24 players on team that means some get to play more?
—If you are, say, bottom 3rd (or even say bottom 5 girls) of team in terms of playtime and skill, is the idea just to make it to HS on the top team because then you get 50% play time, get seen by all the recruiters, get access to the top team’s recruiting apparatus, and get name recognition of being on the top team?

Thanks

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Anonymous wrote:There’s no such thing as equal playing time, but most clubs will make sure each kid plays 50% of the game for recruiting.

I also have a 2033 goalie. Is this true for goalies as well, come high school.

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Anonymous wrote:There’s no such thing as equal playing time, but most clubs will make sure each kid plays 50% of the game for recruiting.

Capital does close to 50% most other top clubs will make sure that everyone plays in each half of every game, but not necessarily equal time.

You are speaking of high school?

What clubs do and do not have 50% playing time when you get to high school?

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Anonymous wrote:There’s no such thing as equal playing time, but most clubs will make sure each kid plays 50% of the game for recruiting.

I also have a 2033 goalie. Is this true for goalies as well, come high school.

Yes, goalie parent here, it was 50:50, roster GM which half they got starting in rising 9th grade summer on.

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you can’t even compare high school and club playing time totally different agendas and totally different goals for those teams and coaches

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Anonymous wrote:MDU not blowing up, lost 1 player right now, I’d expect 2-3 more gone at end of summer but I expect them to pick up a few too.

I think the one that left already joined a local team.

Don't think mdu can replace the players leaving with equivalent talent. But if they can keep down to just a couple players leaving, they should be alright.

There’s nowhere to get anywhere near the equivalent talent for the girls they’re losing. They had a hell of a run keeping those top girls together for so long.

I’ve seen this at club level and HS level, sometimes adding or losing talent doesn’t translate to more success or more goals. As example, HG not going to score X more goals per game adding a great goal scorer, the production will just come from less other people.

Others will step up in the absence of others, same with injuries hitting a team

Club and high school are different enough that I’ll focus on club, where rosters can stay relatively stable for years. In that setting, the impact of each additional strong player depends on how much talent a club team already has. Adding top players to an already excellent club team usually yields only modest gains because their skills overlap with existing players. Losing those same players, however, can cause a much sharper decline for the team they leave, because each one represented a meaningful share of its overall ability and leaves gaps that are harder to replace. If there is no clear path to replacing that talent, other players often decide to leave as well. Once the collapse begins, it rarely stops, and there are few or no recent examples of a strong MS team losing its best players and still competing at a similar level in HS.

I have an older daughter as well and I recall this playing out with Coppermine when she was in MS. Up through 8th grade they were one of the top teams, and then lost a bunch of top players before high school. They actually did a decent job backfilling with good players, including a very good player from NJ who will probably be a T100. Anyway, they are now ranked 40.

Best player from that 28 Coppermine team went to HG. Sounds like history is repeating itself, rough for the girls further down on the depth chart.

Best two players really, and it didn’t help HG.

My DD plays for HG. Agree wholeheartedly. But now our girls have a higher level of anxiety and learning about this new player by way of email left a bitter taste in all of our mouths.

Wouldn’t email be the best way to communicate? Why would that make you bitter?

It’s the club world, replacing good with great, that’s how you stay at top and let’s be honest, HG 2030 has never lived up to the clubs reputation. They typically are top 5 nationally in every grad year, now they are on their way.

HG going to replace MDU in top 5 after this is over

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Anonymous wrote:MDU not blowing up, lost 1 player right now, I’d expect 2-3 more gone at end of summer but I expect them to pick up a few too.

I think the one that left already joined a local team.

Don't think mdu can replace the players leaving with equivalent talent. But if they can keep down to just a couple players leaving, they should be alright.

There’s nowhere to get anywhere near the equivalent talent for the girls they’re losing. They had a hell of a run keeping those top girls together for so long.

I’ve seen this at club level and HS level, sometimes adding or losing talent doesn’t translate to more success or more goals. As example, HG not going to score X more goals per game adding a great goal scorer, the production will just come from less other people.

Others will step up in the absence of others, same with injuries hitting a team

Club and high school are different enough that I’ll focus on club, where rosters can stay relatively stable for years. In that setting, the impact of each additional strong player depends on how much talent a club team already has. Adding top players to an already excellent club team usually yields only modest gains because their skills overlap with existing players. Losing those same players, however, can cause a much sharper decline for the team they leave, because each one represented a meaningful share of its overall ability and leaves gaps that are harder to replace. If there is no clear path to replacing that talent, other players often decide to leave as well. Once the collapse begins, it rarely stops, and there are few or no recent examples of a strong MS team losing its best players and still competing at a similar level in HS.

I have an older daughter as well and I recall this playing out with Coppermine when she was in MS. Up through 8th grade they were one of the top teams, and then lost a bunch of top players before high school. They actually did a decent job backfilling with good players, including a very good player from NJ who will probably be a T100. Anyway, they are now ranked 40.

Best player from that 28 Coppermine team went to HG. Sounds like history is repeating itself, rough for the girls further down on the depth chart.

Best two players really, and it didn’t help HG.

My DD plays for HG. Agree wholeheartedly. But now our girls have a higher level of anxiety and learning about this new player by way of email left a bitter taste in all of our mouths.

Wouldn’t email be the best way to communicate? Why would that make you bitter?

It’s the club world, replacing good with great, that’s how you stay at top and let’s be honest, HG 2030 has never lived up to the clubs reputation. They typically are top 5 nationally in every grad year, now they are on their way.

HG going to replace MDU in top 5 after this is over

I mean probably, at the expense of HG starters.

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Heard two MDU kids are leaving. I wonder how well MDU will do without them

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Did something happen to cause them to leave?

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Anonymous wrote:Did something happen to cause them to leave?

I can’t speak for them specifically, but I know a few families that have left and it is usually bc the director and admin staff are useless and the teams almost always fall off. Most directors are plugged into the showcase circuits like BIC and American Select, she couldn’t care less about them. Most teams actively recruit talent to keep teams competitive, MDU usually doesn’t do anything unless a parent of coach decides to do something. Underperforming coaches are allowed to keep coaching, and underperforming teams almost never turn it around.

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Anonymous wrote:Did something happen to cause them to leave?

I can’t speak for them specifically, but I know a few families that have left and it is usually bc the director and admin staff are useless and the teams almost always fall off. Most directors are plugged into the showcase circuits like BIC and American Select, she couldn’t care less about them. Most teams actively recruit talent to keep teams competitive, MDU usually doesn’t do anything unless a parent of coach decides to do something. Underperforming coaches are allowed to keep coaching, and underperforming teams almost never turn it around.

Not saying you are wrong but none of that relates to the MDU 2030 team which has been top 3 nationally since they started rankings in 6th grade.

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Anonymous wrote:I thought the DMV 2030 parents were ridiculous but add in the B-more parents, and this just became pure gold! Keep it up.

Pretty sure one of the main HG parents complaining is actually from the DMV... Known complainer.

HG parent. This is true. But there are a few others. You know who won’t complain? The untalented attack whose parents try to bankroll everything the team does to keep her there. HG needs to make a couple of attack changes… but they won’t bc of politics.

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Anonymous wrote:MDU not blowing up, lost 1 player right now, I’d expect 2-3 more gone at end of summer but I expect them to pick up a few too.

I think the one that left already joined a local team.

Don't think mdu can replace the players leaving with equivalent talent. But if they can keep down to just a couple players leaving, they should be alright.

There’s nowhere to get anywhere near the equivalent talent for the girls they’re losing. They had a hell of a run keeping those top girls together for so long.

I’ve seen this at club level and HS level, sometimes adding or losing talent doesn’t translate to more success or more goals. As example, HG not going to score X more goals per game adding a great goal scorer, the production will just come from less other people.

Others will step up in the absence of others, same with injuries hitting a team

Club and high school are different enough that I’ll focus on club, where rosters can stay relatively stable for years. In that setting, the impact of each additional strong player depends on how much talent a club team already has. Adding top players to an already excellent club team usually yields only modest gains because their skills overlap with existing players. Losing those same players, however, can cause a much sharper decline for the team they leave, because each one represented a meaningful share of its overall ability and leaves gaps that are harder to replace. If there is no clear path to replacing that talent, other players often decide to leave as well. Once the collapse begins, it rarely stops, and there are few or no recent examples of a strong MS team losing its best players and still competing at a similar level in HS.

I have an older daughter as well and I recall this playing out with Coppermine when she was in MS. Up through 8th grade they were one of the top teams, and then lost a bunch of top players before high school. They actually did a decent job backfilling with good players, including a very good player from NJ who will probably be a T100. Anyway, they are now ranked 40.

Best player from that 28 Coppermine team went to HG. Sounds like history is repeating itself, rough for the girls further down on the depth chart.

Best two players really, and it didn’t help HG.

My DD plays for HG. Agree wholeheartedly. But now our girls have a higher level of anxiety and learning about this new player by way of email left a bitter taste in all of our mouths.

Wouldn’t email be the best way to communicate? Why would that make you bitter?

It’s the club world, replacing good with great, that’s how you stay at top and let’s be honest, HG 2030 has never lived up to the clubs reputation. They typically are top 5 nationally in every grad year, now they are on their way.

HG going to replace MDU in top 5 after this is over

Perhaps. But MDU encouraged their player to go ahead and leave if she was looking, so MDU may have talent coming. MDU midfielder is very good but there are definitely multiple better middies in Baltimore - already on my DD’s MnD black and on HG

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Anonymous wrote:MDU not blowing up, lost 1 player right now, I’d expect 2-3 more gone at end of summer but I expect them to pick up a few too.

I think the one that left already joined a local team.

Don't think mdu can replace the players leaving with equivalent talent. But if they can keep down to just a couple players leaving, they should be alright.

There’s nowhere to get anywhere near the equivalent talent for the girls they’re losing. They had a hell of a run keeping those top girls together for so long.

I’ve seen this at club level and HS level, sometimes adding or losing talent doesn’t translate to more success or more goals. As example, HG not going to score X more goals per game adding a great goal scorer, the production will just come from less other people.

Others will step up in the absence of others, same with injuries hitting a team

Club and high school are different enough that I’ll focus on club, where rosters can stay relatively stable for years. In that setting, the impact of each additional strong player depends on how much talent a club team already has. Adding top players to an already excellent club team usually yields only modest gains because their skills overlap with existing players. Losing those same players, however, can cause a much sharper decline for the team they leave, because each one represented a meaningful share of its overall ability and leaves gaps that are harder to replace. If there is no clear path to replacing that talent, other players often decide to leave as well. Once the collapse begins, it rarely stops, and there are few or no recent examples of a strong MS team losing its best players and still competing at a similar level in HS.

I have an older daughter as well and I recall this playing out with Coppermine when she was in MS. Up through 8th grade they were one of the top teams, and then lost a bunch of top players before high school. They actually did a decent job backfilling with good players, including a very good player from NJ who will probably be a T100. Anyway, they are now ranked 40.

Best player from that 28 Coppermine team went to HG. Sounds like history is repeating itself, rough for the girls further down on the depth chart.

Best two players really, and it didn’t help HG.

My DD plays for HG. Agree wholeheartedly. But now our girls have a higher level of anxiety and learning about this new player by way of email left a bitter taste in all of our mouths.

Wouldn’t email be the best way to communicate? Why would that make you bitter?

It’s the club world, replacing good with great, that’s how you stay at top and let’s be honest, HG 2030 has never lived up to the clubs reputation. They typically are top 5 nationally in every grad year, now they are on their way.

HG going to replace MDU in top 5 after this is over

Perhaps. But MDU encouraged their player to go ahead and leave if she was looking, so MDU may have talent coming. MDU midfielder is very good but there are definitely multiple better middies in Baltimore - already on my DD’s MnD black and on HG

She’s playing for HG this summer so someone going to get bumped.