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Anonymous
| These numbers are encouraging regarding of how much the Dems continue the shutdown. Since the March shutdown our economy has recovered (or created) over 10 million of the 22 million lost. Would be more if not for the continued shutdown by the Dems. If Biden wins in November it will take years to recover. If trump wins the other 12 million will come back and within the year. To me, 12 months is a V shape revovery |
Anonymous
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Shutdown by the Dems eh? The airline industry never shut down. How’s it doing?
People WANT to stay home. Because of trumps sht response to the virus. |
Anonymous
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America's coming back baby!
“Nothing can stop America when you get right down to it. Never bet against America” - Warren Buffett |
Anonymous
Well, he said that while he dumped all his US airline stocks. He dumped his bank stocks in August and bought gold. So, yes, long term, I think he believes in the US and it’s market. But that doesn’t mean that regular folks don’t get crushed by recessions or steep cyclical pull backs. October is almost here. |
Anonymous
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When the economy was booming Trump did nothing but tweet and golf and take credit.
He was planning on coasting through on the strength of the economy. when the economy tanked due to a global pandemic now wants to punt everything onto the Democrats Definitely a sign of weak leadership to take credit for things you didn't do and punt the blame on his lack of leadership |
Anonymous
| it's amazing how people on this board have this will most atavistic religious belief that the president controls the economy. |
Anonymous
I don’t think anyone sensible really believes that, but come on. It’s supposed to be a hand on the tiller; Trump just has his hand in the till. A president isn’t supposed to be getting involved in a lot of the ways that Trump has, goosing the economy and using up tools we’d need in case of a recession, lying about numbers and whatnot, but here we are. |
Anonymous
Policies of the administration can have impact on the economy. The president's actions are almost completely decoupled from what happens to the stock market. HOWEVER, if a president takes credit for how well the stock market is doing, or the economy is doing, then it stands to reason that they'll get blamed if either tanks. Especially with this president, who routinely says he knows more about everything than everyone else does, and routinely takes credit for things he has nothing to do with. |
Anonymous
I started a thread, maybe a year ago, asking what we'd do if we got into an actual recession given that we'd already used up what seemed like our tools for getting us out of one. If I remember right mostly Trump fans responded saying I was a p*ssy. |
Anonymous
Trump is not America, he is Putin's puppet. |
Anonymous
He is the one ties himself to the economy. Karma. |
Anonymous
Yup "Trump warns again that the stock market would crash if he is impeached" (Actual headline - y'all forget) |
Anonymous
My sister was called back to work, so she is no longer in that unemployment job claims. Unfortunately she was only called back for 3/4 of her 40 hour work week, so not full-time and not full-salary. So nope she is not qualified for unemployment, but she is not made whole. And yes, she has been applying for other positions, but nobody is hiring except amazon. She's too old for the Amazon positions. |
Anonymous
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Imagine if the 6th (California) and 11th (New York) largest economies in the world opened back up? We'd be below 5% unemployment.
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Anonymous
Puppet #1 https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/05/politics/michael-cohen-book-trump-white-house/index.html After Trump sold a Palm Beach mansion he purchased for $41 million to a Russian oligarch named Dmitry Rybolovlev for $95 million in 2008, Cohen says, Trump told Cohen he believed the real buyer was Putin Puppet #2 The property and mansion, Maison de L'Amitié , was the auction that caused the rift between Trump and Epstein. They had partied together for years in NYC, Palm Beach and more. Dmitry Rybolovlev tore down the mansion. Puppet #3 https://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/commentary/2018/05/08/how-putin-s-oligarchs-funneled-millions-into-gop-campaigns/ It’s the same Russian oligarch network that funded GOP campaigns. Thereby entangling the ultra-rich Russian Orthodox church to US Christian rightwing candidates into perpetuity. Puppet #4 - Reflect on everything we now know including the pre-2013 and what we've seen from Trump regarding RUS over the last 4 years. The switch from knowing him very well to not knowing at all. Everything Trump has done in the last 4 years has to aid Russia's goals. - (1st of Aug 2020) This 2 min clip contrasting reality (post 2016 Trump) vs Kayleigh McEnany's press con (31st of July 2020). - It's not all-encompassing but gives a good overview of what Trump has done to further Putin's agenda over the last 4 yrs. Why does Trump think Putin bought the Mansion? That would be because Rybolovlev launders Putin’s money— Rybolovlev’s nearly $100M private airplane is owned through a British Virgin Islands holding company -Flight records determined that he was in Las Vegas on the same day Trump was holding a rally there, October 30, 2016 -While Trump rallied in nearby Concord, NC, on November 3, 2016 Rybolovlev’s airplane flew from New York to Concord, arriving at 9:30 am, and a few hours later flew from Concord to Charlotte, NC, where it was on the tarmac with Trump’s airplane -February 11, 2017, while Trump entertained the Prime Minister of Japan at Mar-a-Lago during the N. Korean missile launch, Dimitry Rybolovlev, Russian oligarch and President of Monaco's football club AS Monaco flew from Marseille, France, to Miami, arrived that Friday evening - Rybolovlev is a major shareholder of the Cyprus Bank whose Vice Chairman, is/was Wilbur Ross -To shield wealth from his wife during a divorce in roughly 2008, Rybolovlev bought a $150 mil private Greek island, a French soccer team, the most expensive NY apartment at the time -In May 2013, the Swiss dealer Yves Bouvier purchased the Salvator Mundi for just over US$75M -The Salvator Mundi was then sold to Dmitry Rybolovlev for US$127.5 million in 2013 -Dmitry Rybolovlev pocked an unexpected $300M when he auctioned the Mundi through Christie’s in November 2017 -Turns out the Saudi Prince’s Mohamed bin Salman and Mohammed bin Zayed both bid on the Mundi forcing the value to skyrocket-hence Rybolovlev pockets 300M -Bidders of Rybolovlev’s Salvatore Mundi-bin Salman and bin Zayed are the very same crown princes George Nader represented at the August 3rd 2016 meeting with Don Jr. and whom, Nader promised, would pay for the social media campaign to disparage Clinton and help Trump win -Rybolovlev and PSY-Group PSY-Group is an an Israel-based private intelligence firm that sells social-media manipulation services -Psy-Group is based in Israel registered in Cyprus; aligns in off-shore holding databases with companies owned by Russian oligarchs and banks -Donald Trump Jr., Erik Prince and George Nader met with Joel Zamel, the founder of PSY-Group in August 2016 to manipulate social media to help Trump win -Psy-Group’s side-hustle was providing services in the dark arts of honey-trapping, hacking and blackmail, for a fee About Rybolovlev and Wilbur Ross -Rybolovlev is an owner shareholder of money-laundering Cyprus Bank -The top shareholder of Cyprus Bank—Wilbur Ross -The 2nd largest shareholder in Bank of Cyprus is Russian Renova Corp., which is headed by Viktor Vekselberg -Vekselberg, Deripaska, Len Blavatnik, Roman Abramovich et al—aluminum magnates and in Trump’s circle -Rybolovlev is an owner shareholder in Cyprus Bank -Ross is the top shareholder and was VP 1.Wilbur Ross’ money is in the Caymans 2.Ross led private bailout of Bank of Cyprus 3.Ross has a 40 yr 2.9B with Putin’s family 4.Ross put a Trumpster in Cyprus Bank’s Board before he left to be Commerce Secretary Did someone say Derispaska and Aluminum? Oh, ya https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a27259438/oleg-deripaska-kentucky-aluminum-mitch-mcconnell-rand-paul/ So let's talk about no Russia connections, no puppet, no GOP being compromised. |