Is this going too far? Always removes Venus symbol to acknowledge transmen who menstruate

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Anonymous wrote:Or leave it.
And refrain from using this “pet peeve” as an excuse to throw around a misogynistic term like “HYSTERICAL” indiscriminately, okey dokey?

Sure - I don't use "HYSTERICAL" indiscriminately. Only when it's really warranted. Typically for hyperbolic "concerns" with shady intentions.

Calling women hysterical for being concerned about women's rights is misogynistic and as you are well aware calls up a long history of discrimination that counter intuitively to your comment is the reason a lot of us are fighting the pull away from female focused language.

DP. I don't think you're being called hysterical for being concerned about women's rights. I think you're being called hysterical for being so concerned about the changes to Always's packaging. And since you're the one insisting that woman = uterus, it seems quite appropriate.

Yeah when someone is doubling down on how calling a woman hysterical is right and warranted, it makes me think they aren't coming from a place that they genuinely give any actual effs about women or their rights. As many of us have said, its not about the packaging, we're arguing against what we think is your argument that there is no place for discussing 'women' or 'women's rights' and that the word woman will fall into the same historical faux pas pile as the f word or the n word.

You're just a pot stirrer IMO and are here to get your rocks off on making people upset.

DP. I don't give any actual effs about hysterical fearmongerers.

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Anonymous wrote:Or leave it.
And refrain from using this “pet peeve” as an excuse to throw around a misogynistic term like “HYSTERICAL” indiscriminately, okey dokey?

Sure - I don't use "HYSTERICAL" indiscriminately. Only when it's really warranted. Typically for hyperbolic "concerns" with shady intentions.

Calling women hysterical for being concerned about women's rights is misogynistic and as you are well aware calls up a long history of discrimination that counter intuitively to your comment is the reason a lot of us are fighting the pull away from female focused language.

DP. I don't think you're being called hysterical for being concerned about women's rights. I think you're being called hysterical for being so concerned about the changes to Always's packaging. And since you're the one insisting that woman = uterus, it seems quite appropriate.

Yeah when someone is doubling down on how calling a woman hysterical is right and warranted, it makes me think they aren't coming from a place that they genuinely give any actual effs about women or their rights. As many of us have said, its not about the packaging, we're arguing against what we think is your argument that there is no place for discussing 'women' or 'women's rights' and that the word woman will fall into the same historical faux pas pile as the f word or the n word.

You're just a pot stirrer IMO and are here to get your rocks off on making people upset.

No, this is a thread about Always packaging. Nobody has said that the word "woman" is going away except you.

I think you’re being deliberately obtuse if you truly think this thread is simply about Always packaging.

Right, some fearmongerers are trying to spin this into something that it isn't. To stir the pot.

You are doing the work of the RWNJs - why is that?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm for minority rights, if the minority is big enough!

Wait, what?

Cute!

But...not everything is a right. Some things are non-issue nonsense. And turning everything into a crusade is exhausting.

Plus, there is no universally designated spokesperson for the trans people. In fact, there’s a great deal of subjective disagreement among them. Ya know, because they are individuals with their own unique perspective and opinion.

Yes the RWNJ CRUSADE against trans people is getting exhausting.

Attaching cancel culture to absurd language use policing is basically falling right into the hands of the RWNJ crusade. Focus on actual injustice and power, and you'll find many more allies.

Yes, so let's not get all HYSTERICAL over a minor change to pad packaging.

Likewise, let’s not get HYSTERICAL (not to mention repetitive) about not removing this minor, meaningless little sign from pad packaging.

No one cares about the packaging. There are bigger issues for your "concern".

Most of us arguing the other side here ALSO don't think the packaging is a big deal. It is all about the larger ramifications and you know it, because that's what both of us are arguing about.

Oh - just a little bit of fearmongering then? Oh OK.

Hey answer the questions if you don't want us fear mongering.

1) Are you truly in support of replacing the word woman with the word person?
2) Do you believe 'woman' is equivalent to a slur that should be condemned to the scrap pile of history
3) Do you think the word 'man' is equally as offensive?

I don't think anyone should engage with you anymore until you are clear about what you are saying and answer these questions.

LOL. I will not succumb to the fearmongering. Go start a new thread if you are so "concerned" about women's rights.

I'm sure your RWNJ bosses will pay for the extra time for you to start a new thread. Be sure to throw in some comments about bathrooms and sports.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Or leave it.
And refrain from using this “pet peeve” as an excuse to throw around a misogynistic term like “HYSTERICAL” indiscriminately, okey dokey?

Sure - I don't use "HYSTERICAL" indiscriminately. Only when it's really warranted. Typically for hyperbolic "concerns" with shady intentions.

Calling women hysterical for being concerned about women's rights is misogynistic and as you are well aware calls up a long history of discrimination that counter intuitively to your comment is the reason a lot of us are fighting the pull away from female focused language.

DP. I don't think you're being called hysterical for being concerned about women's rights. I think you're being called hysterical for being so concerned about the changes to Always's packaging. And since you're the one insisting that woman = uterus, it seems quite appropriate.

Yeah when someone is doubling down on how calling a woman hysterical is right and warranted, it makes me think they aren't coming from a place that they genuinely give any actual effs about women or their rights. As many of us have said, its not about the packaging, we're arguing against what we think is your argument that there is no place for discussing 'women' or 'women's rights' and that the word woman will fall into the same historical faux pas pile as the f word or the n word.

You're just a pot stirrer IMO and are here to get your rocks off on making people upset.

No, this is a thread about Always packaging. Nobody has said that the word "woman" is going away except you.

I think you’re being deliberately obtuse if you truly think this thread is simply about Always packaging.

Right, some fearmongerers are trying to spin this into something that it isn't. To stir the pot.

You are doing the work of the RWNJs - why is that?

Because for me, looking at the bigger picture, there are ramifications to changing something for .6% of the population. I couldn’t care less about the packaging itself.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm for minority rights, if the minority is big enough!

Wait, what?

Cute!

But...not everything is a right. Some things are non-issue nonsense. And turning everything into a crusade is exhausting.

Plus, there is no universally designated spokesperson for the trans people. In fact, there’s a great deal of subjective disagreement among them. Ya know, because they are individuals with their own unique perspective and opinion.

Yes the RWNJ CRUSADE against trans people is getting exhausting.

Attaching cancel culture to absurd language use policing is basically falling right into the hands of the RWNJ crusade. Focus on actual injustice and power, and you'll find many more allies.

Yes, so let's not get all HYSTERICAL over a minor change to pad packaging.

Likewise, let’s not get HYSTERICAL (not to mention repetitive) about not removing this minor, meaningless little sign from pad packaging.

No one cares about the packaging. There are bigger issues for your "concern".

Most of us arguing the other side here ALSO don't think the packaging is a big deal. It is all about the larger ramifications and you know it, because that's what both of us are arguing about.

Oh - just a little bit of fearmongering then? Oh OK.

Hey answer the questions if you don't want us fear mongering.

1) Are you truly in support of replacing the word woman with the word person?
2) Do you believe 'woman' is equivalent to a slur that should be condemned to the scrap pile of history
3) Do you think the word 'man' is equally as offensive?

I don't think anyone should engage with you anymore until you are clear about what you are saying and answer these questions.

LOL. I will not succumb to the fearmongering. Go start a new thread if you are so "concerned" about women's rights.

I'm sure your RWNJ bosses will pay for the extra time for you to start a new thread. Be sure to throw in some comments about bathrooms and sports.

Yeah exactly. You don't want to throw out anything concrete because your purpose is not to have a discussion but to spread divisiveness. You don't care about anyone other than your own enjoyment of setting people off against each other.

[Anonymous]

Yes, it is.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm for minority rights, if the minority is big enough!

Wait, what?

Cute!

But...not everything is a right. Some things are non-issue nonsense. And turning everything into a crusade is exhausting.

Plus, there is no universally designated spokesperson for the trans people. In fact, there’s a great deal of subjective disagreement among them. Ya know, because they are individuals with their own unique perspective and opinion.

Yes the RWNJ CRUSADE against trans people is getting exhausting.

Attaching cancel culture to absurd language use policing is basically falling right into the hands of the RWNJ crusade. Focus on actual injustice and power, and you'll find many more allies.

Yes, so let's not get all HYSTERICAL over a minor change to pad packaging.

Likewise, let’s not get HYSTERICAL (not to mention repetitive) about not removing this minor, meaningless little sign from pad packaging.

No one cares about the packaging. There are bigger issues for your "concern".

Most of us arguing the other side here ALSO don't think the packaging is a big deal. It is all about the larger ramifications and you know it, because that's what both of us are arguing about.

Oh - just a little bit of fearmongering then? Oh OK.

Hey answer the questions if you don't want us fear mongering.

1) Are you truly in support of replacing the word woman with the word person?
2) Do you believe 'woman' is equivalent to a slur that should be condemned to the scrap pile of history
3) Do you think the word 'man' is equally as offensive?

I don't think anyone should engage with you anymore until you are clear about what you are saying and answer these questions.

LOL. I will not succumb to the fearmongering. Go start a new thread if you are so "concerned" about women's rights.

I'm sure your RWNJ bosses will pay for the extra time for you to start a new thread. Be sure to throw in some comments about bathrooms and sports.

Yeah exactly. You don't want to throw out anything concrete because your purpose is not to have a discussion but to spread divisiveness. You don't care about anyone other than your own enjoyment of setting people off against each other.

LOL. You are projecting - who has caused the divisiveness here by spinning up hyperbolic scenarios? You.

I am calling you out on exactly that.

[Anonymous]

Dude. Whoever you are doubling down on "hysterical" - you're either a troll, or very nicely demonstrating why actual feminists are impatient with this wing of trans activism.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Dude. Whoever you are doubling down on "hysterical" - you're either a troll, or very nicely demonstrating why actual feminists are impatient with this wing of trans activism.

Are those the anti-trans feminists? TERFs?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm for minority rights, if the minority is big enough!

Wait, what?

Cute!

But...not everything is a right. Some things are non-issue nonsense. And turning everything into a crusade is exhausting.

Plus, there is no universally designated spokesperson for the trans people. In fact, there’s a great deal of subjective disagreement among them. Ya know, because they are individuals with their own unique perspective and opinion.

Yes the RWNJ CRUSADE against trans people is getting exhausting.

Attaching cancel culture to absurd language use policing is basically falling right into the hands of the RWNJ crusade. Focus on actual injustice and power, and you'll find many more allies.

Yes, so let's not get all HYSTERICAL over a minor change to pad packaging.

Likewise, let’s not get HYSTERICAL (not to mention repetitive) about not removing this minor, meaningless little sign from pad packaging.

No one cares about the packaging. There are bigger issues for your "concern".

Most of us arguing the other side here ALSO don't think the packaging is a big deal. It is all about the larger ramifications and you know it, because that's what both of us are arguing about.

Oh - just a little bit of fearmongering then? Oh OK.

Hey answer the questions if you don't want us fear mongering.

1) Are you truly in support of replacing the word woman with the word person?
2) Do you believe 'woman' is equivalent to a slur that should be condemned to the scrap pile of history
3) Do you think the word 'man' is equally as offensive?

I don't think anyone should engage with you anymore until you are clear about what you are saying and answer these questions.

LOL. I will not succumb to the fearmongering. Go start a new thread if you are so "concerned" about women's rights.

I'm sure your RWNJ bosses will pay for the extra time for you to start a new thread. Be sure to throw in some comments about bathrooms and sports.

Yeah exactly. You don't want to throw out anything concrete because your purpose is not to have a discussion but to spread divisiveness. You don't care about anyone other than your own enjoyment of setting people off against each other.

LOL. You are projecting - who has caused the divisiveness here by spinning up hyperbolic scenarios? You.

I am calling you out on exactly that.

Tell me what you actually believe. I'm not responding to any of your taunts until I believe that you actually have something to say.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm for minority rights, if the minority is big enough!

Wait, what?

Cute!

But...not everything is a right. Some things are non-issue nonsense. And turning everything into a crusade is exhausting.

Plus, there is no universally designated spokesperson for the trans people. In fact, there’s a great deal of subjective disagreement among them. Ya know, because they are individuals with their own unique perspective and opinion.

Yes the RWNJ CRUSADE against trans people is getting exhausting.

Attaching cancel culture to absurd language use policing is basically falling right into the hands of the RWNJ crusade. Focus on actual injustice and power, and you'll find many more allies.

Yes, so let's not get all HYSTERICAL over a minor change to pad packaging.

Likewise, let’s not get HYSTERICAL (not to mention repetitive) about not removing this minor, meaningless little sign from pad packaging.

No one cares about the packaging. There are bigger issues for your "concern".

Most of us arguing the other side here ALSO don't think the packaging is a big deal. It is all about the larger ramifications and you know it, because that's what both of us are arguing about.

Oh - just a little bit of fearmongering then? Oh OK.

Hey answer the questions if you don't want us fear mongering.

1) Are you truly in support of replacing the word woman with the word person?
2) Do you believe 'woman' is equivalent to a slur that should be condemned to the scrap pile of history
3) Do you think the word 'man' is equally as offensive?

I don't think anyone should engage with you anymore until you are clear about what you are saying and answer these questions.

LOL. I will not succumb to the fearmongering. Go start a new thread if you are so "concerned" about women's rights.

I'm sure your RWNJ bosses will pay for the extra time for you to start a new thread. Be sure to throw in some comments about bathrooms and sports.

Yeah exactly. You don't want to throw out anything concrete because your purpose is not to have a discussion but to spread divisiveness. You don't care about anyone other than your own enjoyment of setting people off against each other.

LOL. You are projecting - who has caused the divisiveness here by spinning up hyperbolic scenarios? You.

I am calling you out on exactly that.

Tell me what you actually believe. I'm not responding to any of your taunts until I believe that you actually have something to say.

I believe you have anti-trans motives for spinning up hyperbolic scenarios and trying to spread fear à la RWNJ propaganda.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm for minority rights, if the minority is big enough!

Wait, what?

Cute!

But...not everything is a right. Some things are non-issue nonsense. And turning everything into a crusade is exhausting.

Plus, there is no universally designated spokesperson for the trans people. In fact, there’s a great deal of subjective disagreement among them. Ya know, because they are individuals with their own unique perspective and opinion.

Yes the RWNJ CRUSADE against trans people is getting exhausting.

Attaching cancel culture to absurd language use policing is basically falling right into the hands of the RWNJ crusade. Focus on actual injustice and power, and you'll find many more allies.

Yes, so let's not get all HYSTERICAL over a minor change to pad packaging.

Likewise, let’s not get HYSTERICAL (not to mention repetitive) about not removing this minor, meaningless little sign from pad packaging.

No one cares about the packaging. There are bigger issues for your "concern".

Most of us arguing the other side here ALSO don't think the packaging is a big deal. It is all about the larger ramifications and you know it, because that's what both of us are arguing about.

Oh - just a little bit of fearmongering then? Oh OK.

Hey answer the questions if you don't want us fear mongering.

1) Are you truly in support of replacing the word woman with the word person?
2) Do you believe 'woman' is equivalent to a slur that should be condemned to the scrap pile of history
3) Do you think the word 'man' is equally as offensive?

I don't think anyone should engage with you anymore until you are clear about what you are saying and answer these questions.

LOL. I will not succumb to the fearmongering. Go start a new thread if you are so "concerned" about women's rights.

I'm sure your RWNJ bosses will pay for the extra time for you to start a new thread. Be sure to throw in some comments about bathrooms and sports.

Yeah exactly. You don't want to throw out anything concrete because your purpose is not to have a discussion but to spread divisiveness. You don't care about anyone other than your own enjoyment of setting people off against each other.

LOL. You are projecting - who has caused the divisiveness here by spinning up hyperbolic scenarios? You.

I am calling you out on exactly that.

Tell me what you actually believe. I'm not responding to any of your taunts until I believe that you actually have something to say.

I believe you have anti-trans motives for spinning up hyperbolic scenarios and trying to spread fear à la RWNJ propaganda.

And I have repeatedly explained that I don't and what my thoughts are, and you never respond to the substance you just disregard me. I have no problem with transgendered people living their life as freely as possible.

Tell me what you think about women's rights, feminism, reproductive rights, the terms "feminism" and "women's rights" and if you feel like gendered male language needs to change in the same way that gendered women's language is changing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm for minority rights, if the minority is big enough!

Wait, what?

Cute!

But...not everything is a right. Some things are non-issue nonsense. And turning everything into a crusade is exhausting.

Plus, there is no universally designated spokesperson for the trans people. In fact, there’s a great deal of subjective disagreement among them. Ya know, because they are individuals with their own unique perspective and opinion.

Yes the RWNJ CRUSADE against trans people is getting exhausting.

Attaching cancel culture to absurd language use policing is basically falling right into the hands of the RWNJ crusade. Focus on actual injustice and power, and you'll find many more allies.

Yes, so let's not get all HYSTERICAL over a minor change to pad packaging.

Likewise, let’s not get HYSTERICAL (not to mention repetitive) about not removing this minor, meaningless little sign from pad packaging.

No one cares about the packaging. There are bigger issues for your "concern".

Most of us arguing the other side here ALSO don't think the packaging is a big deal. It is all about the larger ramifications and you know it, because that's what both of us are arguing about.

Oh - just a little bit of fearmongering then? Oh OK.

Hey answer the questions if you don't want us fear mongering.

1) Are you truly in support of replacing the word woman with the word person?
2) Do you believe 'woman' is equivalent to a slur that should be condemned to the scrap pile of history
3) Do you think the word 'man' is equally as offensive?

I don't think anyone should engage with you anymore until you are clear about what you are saying and answer these questions.

LOL. I will not succumb to the fearmongering. Go start a new thread if you are so "concerned" about women's rights.

I'm sure your RWNJ bosses will pay for the extra time for you to start a new thread. Be sure to throw in some comments about bathrooms and sports.

Yeah exactly. You don't want to throw out anything concrete because your purpose is not to have a discussion but to spread divisiveness. You don't care about anyone other than your own enjoyment of setting people off against each other.

LOL. You are projecting - who has caused the divisiveness here by spinning up hyperbolic scenarios? You.

I am calling you out on exactly that.

Tell me what you actually believe. I'm not responding to any of your taunts until I believe that you actually have something to say.

I believe you have anti-trans motives for spinning up hyperbolic scenarios and trying to spread fear à la RWNJ propaganda.

And I have repeatedly explained that I don't and what my thoughts are, and you never respond to the substance you just disregard me. I have no problem with transgendered people living their life as freely as possible.

Tell me what you think about women's rights, feminism, reproductive rights, the terms "feminism" and "women's rights" and if you feel like gendered male language needs to change in the same way that gendered women's language is changing.

I don’t trust your intentions.

I’m open to language evolving to be more inclusive. It does not affect me or my experiences.

[Anonymous]

Always, as part of an amoral corporation, probably correctly surmised that this move would be appreciated by a few liberal people or trans people and basically not register with anyone else. I would guess they are right.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm for minority rights, if the minority is big enough!

Wait, what?

Cute!

But...not everything is a right. Some things are non-issue nonsense. And turning everything into a crusade is exhausting.

Plus, there is no universally designated spokesperson for the trans people. In fact, there’s a great deal of subjective disagreement among them. Ya know, because they are individuals with their own unique perspective and opinion.

Yes the RWNJ CRUSADE against trans people is getting exhausting.

Attaching cancel culture to absurd language use policing is basically falling right into the hands of the RWNJ crusade. Focus on actual injustice and power, and you'll find many more allies.

Yes, so let's not get all HYSTERICAL over a minor change to pad packaging.

Likewise, let’s not get HYSTERICAL (not to mention repetitive) about not removing this minor, meaningless little sign from pad packaging.

No one cares about the packaging. There are bigger issues for your "concern".

Most of us arguing the other side here ALSO don't think the packaging is a big deal. It is all about the larger ramifications and you know it, because that's what both of us are arguing about.

Oh - just a little bit of fearmongering then? Oh OK.

Hey answer the questions if you don't want us fear mongering.

1) Are you truly in support of replacing the word woman with the word person?
2) Do you believe 'woman' is equivalent to a slur that should be condemned to the scrap pile of history
3) Do you think the word 'man' is equally as offensive?

I don't think anyone should engage with you anymore until you are clear about what you are saying and answer these questions.

LOL. I will not succumb to the fearmongering. Go start a new thread if you are so "concerned" about women's rights.

I'm sure your RWNJ bosses will pay for the extra time for you to start a new thread. Be sure to throw in some comments about bathrooms and sports.

Yeah exactly. You don't want to throw out anything concrete because your purpose is not to have a discussion but to spread divisiveness. You don't care about anyone other than your own enjoyment of setting people off against each other.

LOL. You are projecting - who has caused the divisiveness here by spinning up hyperbolic scenarios? You.

I am calling you out on exactly that.

Tell me what you actually believe. I'm not responding to any of your taunts until I believe that you actually have something to say.

I believe you have anti-trans motives for spinning up hyperbolic scenarios and trying to spread fear à la RWNJ propaganda.

And I have repeatedly explained that I don't and what my thoughts are, and you never respond to the substance you just disregard me. I have no problem with transgendered people living their life as freely as possible.

Tell me what you think about women's rights, feminism, reproductive rights, the terms "feminism" and "women's rights" and if you feel like gendered male language needs to change in the same way that gendered women's language is changing.

I don’t trust your intentions.

I’m open to language evolving to be more inclusive. It does not affect me or my experiences.

You continue to be more intent on attacking me and my theoretical motives rather than saying anything of actual substance. You're a pot stirrer trying to avoid being boxed in.