Specifically on-topic contributors to the Drew boundary issue only please -

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Anonymous wrote:I'm waiting to hear the outrage about how Fairlington now has a petition to all stay together because THEY don't want to go to Drew. Where is the disdain? Did I come to the wrong board today?


Is this serious or are you being facetious?


It’s on change.org
Has about 270 signatures already


I just saw it. Makes the Henry parents look downright reasonable.


Gotta love the “don’t tear us apart” when everyone who lives there know the line between north and south fairlington is about as bad as north and south Arlington.


Fairlington is one neighborhood and Abingdon is located inside of that neighborhood. They are fighting for their children to go to the school that is literally in their neighborhood vs. being bussed past that school for another one a mile further away. Henry wanted their school community to stay together when their school building is being moved to a different neighborhood. I see why they would like to stay there but it’s absolutely not less reasonable for parents to want their children to stay at the school IN their own neighborhood!


Fleet and Henry are in the same neighborhood.


Also fairlington and shirlington are two different civic associations so it is not the same neighborhood.


Henry’s old boundary is not all the same neighborhood though. Splitting their old boundary by moving neighborhoods that are further from Fleet then another school isn’t literally dividing a neighborhood that has a school located inside of it!

Also, what does Shirlington have to do with any of this? Abingdon is in Fairlington and Fairlington families want to continue to go to there.



No school wants to be split. That's apparent. And reasonable.

Henry agreed to move 0.5 miles, with the specific understanding that this would not be used against it in future boundary disputes. Really. It was told that the boundaries would stay intact, that's the main reason the school didn't fight the move. Fairlington is literally divided by an Interstate. Also end-to-end Fairlington is bigger than from Rt 50 to the Columbia Heights units that want to stay at Fleet. So don't pretend that it's impossible or unreasonable that Fairlington could be divided. You can say you don't like it. That's fine. I don't blame you. No one likes it.


I guess what I don't understand is what kind of devil's bargain was worked out with Henry parents and where were the rest of South Arlington when these discussions occurred? Why do parents at one elementary school have such an outsized effect on the rest of the school districts? Honestly, why would Henry parents honestly believe they wouldn't be considered for Drew when they're literally 7/10 a mile away? We need boundaries that look out for the schools' best interests, not one specific neighborhood over another, whatever that neighborhood happens to be. I really feel like the entire boundary redesign is being held hostage by a pact that Henry parents may or may not have made years ago.


It wasn't a pact. It was a recommendation by the SAWG coinciding with the recommendation that some of Oakridge's PU move into Drew. Since Oakridge isn't moving into Drew the recommendation for PH to move as a whole isn't feasible.


https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/legacy_assets/www/412115d251-SB_Final_Update_11052015.pdf


The point is what? It's a recommendation. Not a binding contract. The final (summary) report conveniently ignores a lot of other recommendations included in the full report, like the part about diversity that was discussed at many meetings.


The point was what you just stated. I keep seeing these posts about some deal PH had with the SB based on SAWG.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm waiting to hear the outrage about how Fairlington now has a petition to all stay together because THEY don't want to go to Drew. Where is the disdain? Did I come to the wrong board today?


Is this serious or are you being facetious?


It’s on change.org
Has about 270 signatures already


I just saw it. Makes the Henry parents look downright reasonable.


Gotta love the “don’t tear us apart” when everyone who lives there know the line between north and south fairlington is about as bad as north and south Arlington.


Fairlington is one neighborhood and Abingdon is located inside of that neighborhood. They are fighting for their children to go to the school that is literally in their neighborhood vs. being bussed past that school for another one a mile further away. Henry wanted their school community to stay together when their school building is being moved to a different neighborhood. I see why they would like to stay there but it’s absolutely not less reasonable for parents to want their children to stay at the school IN their own neighborhood!


This isn't PH PU vs Abingdon PU. CH will go to Drew to help FARMS and SF will go to alleviate overcrowding at Abingdon.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm waiting to hear the outrage about how Fairlington now has a petition to all stay together because THEY don't want to go to Drew. Where is the disdain? Did I come to the wrong board today?


Is this serious or are you being facetious?


It’s on change.org
Has about 270 signatures already


I just saw it. Makes the Henry parents look downright reasonable.


Gotta love the “don’t tear us apart” when everyone who lives there know the line between north and south fairlington is about as bad as north and south Arlington.


Fairlington is one neighborhood and Abingdon is located inside of that neighborhood. They are fighting for their children to go to the school that is literally in their neighborhood vs. being bussed past that school for another one a mile further away. Henry wanted their school community to stay together when their school building is being moved to a different neighborhood. I see why they would like to stay there but it’s absolutely not less reasonable for parents to want their children to stay at the school IN their own neighborhood!


This isn't PH PU vs Abingdon PU. CH will go to Drew to help FARMS and SF will go to alleviate overcrowding at Abingdon.


It will be between CF or SF to alleviate the predicted over capacity issues at Abingdon. Will the SB decide to bus children past one school or will they decide to bus children past 3. In addition, SF makes more sense when one considers alignment.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm waiting to hear the outrage about how Fairlington now has a petition to all stay together because THEY don't want to go to Drew. Where is the disdain? Did I come to the wrong board today?


Is this serious or are you being facetious?


It’s on change.org
Has about 270 signatures already


I just saw it. Makes the Henry parents look downright reasonable.


Gotta love the “don’t tear us apart” when everyone who lives there know the line between north and south fairlington is about as bad as north and south Arlington.


Fairlington is one neighborhood and Abingdon is located inside of that neighborhood. They are fighting for their children to go to the school that is literally in their neighborhood vs. being bussed past that school for another one a mile further away. Henry wanted their school community to stay together when their school building is being moved to a different neighborhood. I see why they would like to stay there but it’s absolutely not less reasonable for parents to want their children to stay at the school IN their own neighborhood!


This isn't PH PU vs Abingdon PU. CH will go to Drew to help FARMS and SF will go to alleviate overcrowding at Abingdon.


It will be between CF or SF to alleviate the predicted over capacity issues at Abingdon. Will the SB decide to bus children past one school or will they decide to bus children past 3. In addition, SF makes more sense when one considers alignment.



I propose sending South Fairlington and Columbi Heights all to Drew.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm waiting to hear the outrage about how Fairlington now has a petition to all stay together because THEY don't want to go to Drew. Where is the disdain? Did I come to the wrong board today?


Is this serious or are you being facetious?


It’s on change.org
Has about 270 signatures already


I just saw it. Makes the Henry parents look downright reasonable.


Gotta love the “don’t tear us apart” when everyone who lives there know the line between north and south fairlington is about as bad as north and south Arlington.


Fairlington is one neighborhood and Abingdon is located inside of that neighborhood. They are fighting for their children to go to the school that is literally in their neighborhood vs. being bussed past that school for another one a mile further away. Henry wanted their school community to stay together when their school building is being moved to a different neighborhood. I see why they would like to stay there but it’s absolutely not less reasonable for parents to want their children to stay at the school IN their own neighborhood!


Fleet and Henry are in the same neighborhood.


Also fairlington and shirlington are two different civic associations so it is not the same neighborhood.


Henry’s old boundary is not all the same neighborhood though. Splitting their old boundary by moving neighborhoods that are further from Fleet then another school isn’t literally dividing a neighborhood that has a school located inside of it!

Also, what does Shirlington have to do with any of this? Abingdon is in Fairlington and Fairlington families want to continue to go to there.



No school wants to be split. That's apparent. And reasonable.

Henry agreed to move 0.5 miles, with the specific understanding that this would not be used against it in future boundary disputes. Really. It was told that the boundaries would stay intact, that's the main reason the school didn't fight the move. Fairlington is literally divided by an Interstate. Also end-to-end Fairlington is bigger than from Rt 50 to the Columbia Heights units that want to stay at Fleet. So don't pretend that it's impossible or unreasonable that Fairlington could be divided. You can say you don't like it. That's fine. I don't blame you. No one likes it.


I guess what I don't understand is what kind of devil's bargain was worked out with Henry parents and where were the rest of South Arlington when these discussions occurred? Why do parents at one elementary school have such an outsized effect on the rest of the school districts? Honestly, why would Henry parents honestly believe they wouldn't be considered for Drew when they're literally 7/10 a mile away? We need boundaries that look out for the schools' best interests, not one specific neighborhood over another, whatever that neighborhood happens to be. I really feel like the entire boundary redesign is being held hostage by a pact that Henry parents may or may not have made years ago.


There was no such pact, and there is no public statement from APS backing such a claim. APS knew very well the construction of Fleet would entail boundary changes and chose it words carefully. For the past year, a small group of Henry parents, the core of whom have lived in the neighborhoods south of the Pikefor less than 5 years, and specifically the million dollar new construction on 12 st that is less than 2 years old, have been lobbying the staff and SB to protect their real estate investments. That is the crux of this. I've spent time in that neighborhood and I've attended the public meetings and Ive seen the same people in both places.
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False. That street is not even in Columbia Heights. Maybe look at a map and the FRL rates before running your mouth.
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If Fairlington is that strong and cohesive a community, it seem like moving the chunk south of 395 to Drew could be a great solution. A significant population that is engaged and has a strong sense of community could do a lot for things like helping the rebuild the PTA. It seems like a much better solution than grabbing a handful of kids here and there to create a disconnected hodge podge.
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Anonymous wrote:False. That street is not even in Columbia Heights. Maybe look at a map and the FRL rates before running your mouth.


LOL, whut? you look at the map, genius. I guess you're such a newcomer, you don't even know your own neighborhood.

12 street south stretches east west across both Columbia heights and new Arlington/DP. You can take it from Cleveland in Columbia heights straight west over Walter Reed, past the million dollar houses, another two blocks to Glebe where it ends at the post office parking lot. It pick up again begin he post office and goes parallel to the pike until meeting Quincy at Randolph elementary.
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Fact: Two school board members had a meeting with Henry parents 2+ years ago about all this

Fact: At said meeting, school board member ascertained that APS' intent was not to drop part of Henry's boundaries

Fact: School board member said intent was to make boundaries larger, not smaller, since the new building was larger than the existing building

You might not like it. You might think it was a stupid thing for them to say. But it happened.
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^^ asserted, not ascertained
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Anonymous wrote:Fact: Two school board members had a meeting with Henry parents 2+ years ago about all this

Fact: At said meeting, school board member ascertained that APS' intent was not to drop part of Henry's boundaries

Fact: School board member said intent was to make boundaries larger, not smaller, since the new building was larger than the existing building

You might not like it. You might think it was a stupid thing for them to say. But it happened.


Like I said, no public statement. Got a recording? No? Then it a matter of interpretation.
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Anonymous wrote:If Fairlington is that strong and cohesive a community, it seem like moving the chunk south of 395 to Drew could be a great solution. A significant population that is engaged and has a strong sense of community could do a lot for things like helping the rebuild the PTA. It seems like a much better solution than grabbing a handful of kids here and there to create a disconnected hodge podge.

If it’s so strong and vibrant they should be able to handle the separation just fine.
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Anonymous wrote:Fact: Two school board members had a meeting with Henry parents 2+ years ago about all this

Fact: At said meeting, school board member ascertained that APS' intent was not to drop part of Henry's boundaries

Fact: School board member said intent was to make boundaries larger, not smaller, since the new building was larger than the existing building

You might not like it. You might think it was a stupid thing for them to say. But it happened.


They never said what those boundaries would be. It could be larger and pick up different neighborhoods.
You sound like petulant, pedantic, pathetic, preteens arguing with Daddy about promises made.
No one cares what Lander told you guys.
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Anonymous wrote:Fact: Two school board members had a meeting with Henry parents 2+ years ago about all this

Fact: At said meeting, school board member ascertained that APS' intent was not to drop part of Henry's boundaries

Fact: School board member said intent was to make boundaries larger, not smaller, since the new building was larger than the existing building

You might not like it. You might think it was a stupid thing for them to say. But it happened.


That's not part of SAWG. That wasn't the "promise" that happened before SAWG's final recommendation and the Board's final approval. That's just some meeting for SB members to "hear" the community's "concerns" and reassure them that it isn't their intention to break up the community and they want to keep everyone together. Note your own wording: APS' "intent" - not promise.
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Anonymous wrote:If Fairlington is that strong and cohesive a community, it seem like moving the chunk south of 395 to Drew could be a great solution. A significant population that is engaged and has a strong sense of community could do a lot for things like helping the rebuild the PTA. It seems like a much better solution than grabbing a handful of kids here and there to create a disconnected hodge podge.

If it’s so strong and vibrant they should be able to handle the separation just fine.


And they will. They can still be "one big happy community" at their Farmer's Market, there TWO voting precincts, and their 5K.
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