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Anonymous wrote:Does all that diversity continue into the graded program? Can't wait to see the stats on free standing Montessori when it moves into Henry. It's going to be eye opening. Maybe then we can finally have a conversation about whether to keep it past K. Maybe they won't need a home after Henry.

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Or maybe, we will have a high school Montessory too We did manage to move to our own school, didn't we? Accept it or not, Public Montessori is a good thing for Arlington.

Before we build a high school for the same number of kids who enter the program as 3 year olds, I'd like to see the preschool and elementary levels expanded instead. I think it's more important to make it available to more people than it is to create and end to end experience for a lucky few.

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Anonymous wrote:Also spare me, all the Montessori parents claiming you’ll miss Drew and how amazing it is are not helping. You choiced out, your kid didn’t and doesn’t attend the neighborhood program.

Yup, the beauty of having choices. Also when you start public Montessory at APS at 3 yo, 2/3 of kids are picked from low income families (another beauty of public Montessori, giving options to low income that can not afford it otherwise) , only 1/3 of these kids pay full tuition. So, yes we loved the diversity, and we didn't chooce out (is choiced a word?) to escape diversity. I loved listenening to my kid talking about Mongolia and showing in map because that's where their friend was from, or Tajikistan (probably you don't know where that is but my 4 yo could point it in the map). It was a choice that worked for our kids and us. We did 3 years at HB when it was rated under 3, and we have been at Drew for 3 years as well. They got bussed around instead for 1 hour. Our neighborhood school was higher rated and could might as well attended that one, we also could walk to that one. They will be further when they move to PH as well but hey whatever works. We have lots of friends in neighborhood although we don't go to same schools. So, yeah don't just spit venom on other people's choices.

It's too bad so few people get what you enjoyed. Preschool montessori is by lottery, so to get in you have to be either lucky, low income, or willing to take the application to be admitted under the 2/3rds set aside. And for elementary montessori, no one outside of the preschool program has been admitted in 2 years, maybe 3. So it's really not a choice, it's luck.

Hoffman - Boston has 4 primary Montessori classes. That's what I meant. And they are staying there.

Yup a lucky choice. Sorry you were not lucky enough to choose out of your neighborhood school.

I didn't choice out. Simply pointing out the fact that already, option schools are oversubscribed and not growing as a percentage of the overall student body. That will get worse and lead to the perception that these schools with unique instructional models and reasonable farms rates are just a lucky crap shoot.

Reasoanable FARM rates? Do you hear yourself? They were hosted at Drrew and Hoffman-Boston. Last I know, neither of them had reasoanable FARM rate.

You seem a little out of the loop.

HB hosted no option program. They hosted Nauck students who chose to go there instead of the Drew graded program. Under the proposal, those kids will return to Drew and it's a big reason HB will lose title I status next year.

It was established earlier in this thread or another that the proposal data allows one to estimate the farms rate for montessori alone- look it up - it's about 25%. Actual option school farms rates range from 26% at ATS to 54% at Campbell. Key is the next highest at 41%. So yeah, in a SA context these are very reasonable farms rates. Especially when you consider that Barcroft, Drew, Randolph, and carlin springs range from 59 to 83, with three of those schools at 75% or higher.

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Anonymous wrote:Also spare me, all the Montessori parents claiming you’ll miss Drew and how amazing it is are not helping. You choiced out, your kid didn’t and doesn’t attend the neighborhood program.

Yup, the beauty of having choices. Also when you start public Montessory at APS at 3 yo, 2/3 of kids are picked from low income families (another beauty of public Montessori, giving options to low income that can not afford it otherwise) , only 1/3 of these kids pay full tuition. So, yes we loved the diversity, and we didn't chooce out (is choiced a word?) to escape diversity. I loved listenening to my kid talking about Mongolia and showing in map because that's where their friend was from, or Tajikistan (probably you don't know where that is but my 4 yo could point it in the map). It was a choice that worked for our kids and us. We did 3 years at HB when it was rated under 3, and we have been at Drew for 3 years as well. They got bussed around instead for 1 hour. Our neighborhood school was higher rated and could might as well attended that one, we also could walk to that one. They will be further when they move to PH as well but hey whatever works. We have lots of friends in neighborhood although we don't go to same schools. So, yeah don't just spit venom on other people's choices.

It's too bad so few people get what you enjoyed. Preschool montessori is by lottery, so to get in you have to be either lucky, low income, or willing to take the application to be admitted under the 2/3rds set aside. And for elementary montessori, no one outside of the preschool program has been admitted in 2 years, maybe 3. So it's really not a choice, it's luck.

Yup a lucky choice. Sorry you were not lucky enough to choose out of your neighborhood school.

I didn't choice out. Simply pointing out the fact that already, option schools are oversubscribed and not growing as a percentage of the overall student body. That will get worse and lead to the perception that these schools with unique instructional models and reasonable farms rates are just a lucky crap shoot.

Reasoanable FARM rates? Do you hear yourself? They were hosted at Drrew and Hoffman-Boston. Last I know, neither of them had reasoanable FARM rate.

You seem a little out of the loop.

HB hosted no option program. They hosted Nauck students who chose to go there instead of the Drew graded program. Under the proposal, those kids will return to Drew and it's a big reason HB will lose title I status next year.

It was established earlier in this thread or another that the proposal data allows one to estimate the farms rate for montessori alone- look it up - it's about 25%. Actual option school farms rates range from 26% at ATS to 54% at Campbell. Key is the next highest at 41%. So yeah, in a SA context these are very reasonable farms rates. Especially when you consider that Barcroft, Drew, Randolph, and carlin springs range from 59 to 83, with three of those schools at 75% or higher.

Hoffman - Boston has 4 primary Montessori classes. That's what I meant. And they are staying there.

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Anonymous wrote:Also spare me, all the Montessori parents claiming you’ll miss Drew and how amazing it is are not helping. You choiced out, your kid didn’t and doesn’t attend the neighborhood program.

Yup, the beauty of having choices. Also when you start public Montessory at APS at 3 yo, 2/3 of kids are picked from low income families (another beauty of public Montessori, giving options to low income that can not afford it otherwise) , only 1/3 of these kids pay full tuition. So, yes we loved the diversity, and we didn't chooce out (is choiced a word?) to escape diversity. I loved listenening to my kid talking about Mongolia and showing in map because that's where their friend was from, or Tajikistan (probably you don't know where that is but my 4 yo could point it in the map). It was a choice that worked for our kids and us. We did 3 years at HB when it was rated under 3, and we have been at Drew for 3 years as well. They got bussed around instead for 1 hour. Our neighborhood school was higher rated and could might as well attended that one, we also could walk to that one. They will be further when they move to PH as well but hey whatever works. We have lots of friends in neighborhood although we don't go to same schools. So, yeah don't just spit venom on other people's choices.

It's too bad so few people get what you enjoyed. Preschool montessori is by lottery, so to get in you have to be either lucky, low income, or willing to take the application to be admitted under the 2/3rds set aside. And for elementary montessori, no one outside of the preschool program has been admitted in 2 years, maybe 3. So it's really not a choice, it's luck.

Yup a lucky choice. Sorry you were not lucky enough to choose out of your neighborhood school.

I didn't choice out. Simply pointing out the fact that already, option schools are oversubscribed and not growing as a percentage of the overall student body. That will get worse and lead to the perception that these schools with unique instructional models and reasonable farms rates are just a lucky crap shoot.

Reasoanable FARM rates? Do you hear yourself? They were hosted at Drrew and Hoffman-Boston. Last I know, neither of them had reasoanable FARM rate.

You seem a little out of the loop.

HB hosted no option program. They hosted Nauck students who chose to go there instead of the Drew graded program. Under the proposal, those kids will return to Drew and it's a big reason HB will lose title I status next year.

It was established earlier in this thread or another that the proposal data allows one to estimate the farms rate for montessori alone- look it up - it's about 25%. Actual option school farms rates range from 26% at ATS to 54% at Campbell. Key is the next highest at 41%. So yeah, in a SA context these are very reasonable farms rates. Especially when you consider that Barcroft, Drew, Randolph, and carlin springs range from 59 to 83, with three of those schools at 75% or higher.

Hoffman - Boston has 4 primary Montessori classes. That's what I meant. And they are staying there.

So do several other schools. We're talking about k-5 in SA here. What's your point? Mine is that unless we grow option schools their reputation for being refuges for the lucky few, refuges from high farms rates, from boring instructional models, from overcrowding will be reality.

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Anonymous wrote:Also spare me, all the Montessori parents claiming you’ll miss Drew and how amazing it is are not helping. You choiced out, your kid didn’t and doesn’t attend the neighborhood program.

Yup, the beauty of having choices. Also when you start public Montessory at APS at 3 yo, 2/3 of kids are picked from low income families (another beauty of public Montessori, giving options to low income that can not afford it otherwise) , only 1/3 of these kids pay full tuition. So, yes we loved the diversity, and we didn't chooce out (is choiced a word?) to escape diversity. I loved listenening to my kid talking about Mongolia and showing in map because that's where their friend was from, or Tajikistan (probably you don't know where that is but my 4 yo could point it in the map). It was a choice that worked for our kids and us. We did 3 years at HB when it was rated under 3, and we have been at Drew for 3 years as well. They got bussed around instead for 1 hour. Our neighborhood school was higher rated and could might as well attended that one, we also could walk to that one. They will be further when they move to PH as well but hey whatever works. We have lots of friends in neighborhood although we don't go to same schools. So, yeah don't just spit venom on other people's choices.

It's too bad so few people get what you enjoyed. Preschool montessori is by lottery, so to get in you have to be either lucky, low income, or willing to take the application to be admitted under the 2/3rds set aside. And for elementary montessori, no one outside of the preschool program has been admitted in 2 years, maybe 3. So it's really not a choice, it's luck.

Yup a lucky choice. Sorry you were not lucky enough to choose out of your neighborhood school.

I didn't choice out. Simply pointing out the fact that already, option schools are oversubscribed and not growing as a percentage of the overall student body. That will get worse and lead to the perception that these schools with unique instructional models and reasonable farms rates are just a lucky crap shoot.

Reasoanable FARM rates? Do you hear yourself? They were hosted at Drrew and Hoffman-Boston. Last I know, neither of them had reasoanable FARM rate.

You seem a little out of the loop.

HB hosted no option program. They hosted Nauck students who chose to go there instead of the Drew graded program. Under the proposal, those kids will return to Drew and it's a big reason HB will lose title I status next year.

It was established earlier in this thread or another that the proposal data allows one to estimate the farms rate for montessori alone- look it up - it's about 25%. Actual option school farms rates range from 26% at ATS to 54% at Campbell. Key is the next highest at 41%. So yeah, in a SA context these are very reasonable farms rates. Especially when you consider that Barcroft, Drew, Randolph, and carlin springs range from 59 to 83, with three of those schools at 75% or higher.

Hoffman - Boston has 4 primary Montessori classes. That's what I meant. And they are staying there.

So do several other schools. We're talking about k-5 in SA here. What's your point? Mine is that unless we grow option schools their reputation for being refuges for the lucky few, refuges from high farms rates, from boring instructional models, from overcrowding will be reality.

Well start advocating for more instead of wasting all your energy on assuming how long Montessori will last alone. This attitude wont help adding seats on those programs.

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Anonymous wrote:Does all that diversity continue into the graded program? Can't wait to see the stats on free standing Montessori when it moves into Henry. It's going to be eye opening. Maybe then we can finally have a conversation about whether to keep it past K. Maybe they won't need a home after Henry.

+1.

Or maybe, we will have a high school Montessory too We did manage to move to our own school, didn't we? Accept it or not, Public Montessori is a good thing for Arlington.

Before we build a high school for the same number of kids who enter the program as 3 year olds, I'd like to see the preschool and elementary levels expanded instead. I think it's more important to make it available to more people than it is to create and end to end experience for a lucky few.

Please start your own thread on montessori if you want to keep discussing this. This is supposed to be about Drew. Not interested in growing Montessori here. Much more concerned about growing a Drew people desire and won't fight going to. T hanks.

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Anonymous wrote:Does all that diversity continue into the graded program? Can't wait to see the stats on free standing Montessori when it moves into Henry. It's going to be eye opening. Maybe then we can finally have a conversation about whether to keep it past K. Maybe they won't need a home after Henry.

+1.

Or maybe, we will have a high school Montessory too We did manage to move to our own school, didn't we? Accept it or not, Public Montessori is a good thing for Arlington.

Before we build a high school for the same number of kids who enter the program as 3 year olds, I'd like to see the preschool and elementary levels expanded instead. I think it's more important to make it available to more people than it is to create and end to end experience for a lucky few.

Please start your own thread on montessori if you want to keep discussing this. This is supposed to be about Drew. Not interested in growing Montessori here. Much more concerned about growing a Drew people desire and won't fight going to. T hanks.

That's right, that's what I was trying to do and someone just decided to go different direction accusing for false claims on greatness of Drew. Here is the post I wrote above. Carry on, without snarky comments and add more to the list.

"My kids went to HB when we had that principal and she was amazing and all about STEM so I'm guessing that will continue. They have an amazing band and chorus. Drew teachers and community are amazing!!! We will miss Drew and the community when we move to PH next fall. And that school will become one that you would wish you moved to. Just saying!!! "

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Anonymous wrote:Does all that diversity continue into the graded program? Can't wait to see the stats on free standing Montessori when it moves into Henry. It's going to be eye opening. Maybe then we can finally have a conversation about whether to keep it past K. Maybe they won't need a home after Henry.

+1.

Or maybe, we will have a high school Montessory too We did manage to move to our own school, didn't we? Accept it or not, Public Montessori is a good thing for Arlington.

Before we build a high school for the same number of kids who enter the program as 3 year olds, I'd like to see the preschool and elementary levels expanded instead. I think it's more important to make it available to more people than it is to create and end to end experience for a lucky few.

Please start your own thread on montessori if you want to keep discussing this. This is supposed to be about Drew. Not interested in growing Montessori here. Much more concerned about growing a Drew people desire and won't fight going to. T hanks.

That's right, that's what I was trying to do and someone just decided to go different direction accusing for false claims on greatness of Drew. Here is the post I wrote above. Carry on, without snarky comments and add more to the list.

"My kids went to HB when we had that principal and she was amazing and all about STEM so I'm guessing that will continue. They have an amazing band and chorus. Drew teachers and community are amazing!!! We will miss Drew and the community when we move to PH next fall. And that school will become one that you would wish you moved to. Just saying!!! "

Just sayin, Drew will have a farms rate 30 points higher than HB and while I've no doubt that the principal is going to be great, she had the wind at her back with a declining farms rate and a lot of central asian immigrants who value education more than anything. You can see this cohort in the race statistics; HB has one of the highest percentages of Asian students in the county. The post has written stories about this.

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To get back to the original purpose of this thread, I would just like to see a sensible, reasonable boundary proposed for Drew. If my kids go to Drew next year (and they very may well), I'd like assurances that APS drew the best possible boundary for the school, and not a gerrymandered hatch of lines as a result of bowing to political pressure, or a map based on baked FRL numbers. I'm keenly interested in seeing what comes out tomorrow night. Regardless of whether my actual home is within the Drew boundaries, I'd like to be able to look at the map and say, "Ok, yeah, that makes sense. I can get behind that plan."

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Will Abingdon be over capacity before 2021? If CF gets a new neighborhood school in 2020, moving SF would be too much. Could Abingdon wait it out?

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Anonymous wrote:Does all that diversity continue into the graded program? Can't wait to see the stats on free standing Montessori when it moves into Henry. It's going to be eye opening. Maybe then we can finally have a conversation about whether to keep it past K. Maybe they won't need a home after Henry.

+1.

Or maybe, we will have a high school Montessory too We did manage to move to our own school, didn't we? Accept it or not, Public Montessori is a good thing for Arlington.

Before we build a high school for the same number of kids who enter the program as 3 year olds, I'd like to see the preschool and elementary levels expanded instead. I think it's more important to make it available to more people than it is to create and end to end experience for a lucky few.

Please start your own thread on montessori if you want to keep discussing this. This is supposed to be about Drew. Not interested in growing Montessori here. Much more concerned about growing a Drew people desire and won't fight going to. T hanks.

That's right, that's what I was trying to do and someone just decided to go different direction accusing for false claims on greatness of Drew. Here is the post I wrote above. Carry on, without snarky comments and add more to the list.

"My kids went to HB when we had that principal and she was amazing and all about STEM so I'm guessing that will continue. They have an amazing band and chorus. Drew teachers and community are amazing!!! We will miss Drew and the community when we move to PH next fall. And that school will become one that you would wish you moved to. Just saying!!! "

Just sayin, Drew will have a farms rate 30 points higher than HB and while I've no doubt that the principal is going to be great, she had the wind at her back with a declining farms rate and a lot of central asian immigrants who value education more than anything. You can see this cohort in the race statistics; HB has one of the highest percentages of Asian students in the county. The post has written stories about this.

Not necessarily. They can get it a lot closer to Hoffman-Boston (just under 50% currently).

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Anonymous wrote:Will Abingdon be over capacity before 2021? If CF gets a new neighborhood school in 2020, moving SF would be too much. Could Abingdon wait it out?

that is a concern. We also do not have any trailers as of now since we just finished construction so we could make the "space" with trailers for new people if needed and kick out CF in 2020. (sorry guys!)

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Anonymous wrote:Will Abingdon be over capacity before 2021? If CF gets a new neighborhood school in 2020, moving SF would be too much. Could Abingdon wait it out?

that is a concern. We also do not have any trailers as of now since we just finished construction so we could make the "space" with trailers for new people if needed and kick out CF in 2020. (sorry guys!)

Kick out? That's a bit harsh considering Abingdon has been CF neighborhood school for over 30 years. Wow. This boundary process has shown the true colors of people.

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Anonymous wrote:Will Abingdon be over capacity before 2021? If CF gets a new neighborhood school in 2020, moving SF would be too much. Could Abingdon wait it out?

that is a concern. We also do not have any trailers as of now since we just finished construction so we could make the "space" with trailers for new people if needed and kick out CF in 2020. (sorry guys!)

Kick out? That's a bit harsh considering Abingdon has been CF neighborhood school for over 30 years. Wow. This boundary process has shown the true colors of people.

It was a joke calm down.


Someone has to leave eventually and CF is geographically closer to several other schools and the furthest from Abingdon. As a matter of several of those in the community have said in the whole process with Drew that that they thought they would be redistricted to Barcroft or Carlin Springs. APS has put out maps saying to hold off moving those units so they can be moved in 2020.

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Anonymous wrote:To get back to the original purpose of this thread, I would just like to see a sensible, reasonable boundary proposed for Drew. If my kids go to Drew next year (and they very may well), I'd like assurances that APS drew the best possible boundary for the school, and not a gerrymandered hatch of lines as a result of bowing to political pressure, or a map based on baked FRL numbers. I'm keenly interested in seeing what comes out tomorrow night. Regardless of whether my actual home is within the Drew boundaries, I'd like to be able to look at the map and say, "Ok, yeah, that makes sense. I can get behind that plan."

+1,000