How does Trayon White still have a job?

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jsteele wrote:

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I'm sorry to say it, but your attitude will make White more popular rather than less. From the perspective of the people he represents, White apologized for his initial remark, but that wasn't enough. He reached out to the Jewish community to be educated, but that wasn't enough. He toured the Holocaust Museum, but that wasn't enough. Now he is being asked to reject the support of a group that is in his community doing real, tangible work. You are literally demanding that hungry people turn down food because you don't like who is feeding them. How do you think that is going to go over?

I am sorry, but from what I have read all the prominent Jewish leaders in the District acccepted his initial apology. Then the holocaust museum tour went very badly (I mean really?) Now this (and is a donation to NOI needed for W8 to get food?)

The Nation of Islam provides a range of social services in Ward 8 including distributing food. While those services are not contingent upon a $500 donation, they would end if the NOI was not allowed to continue its work in DC.

Who is calling for a ban on them working in DC? Would that even be legal? What people are complaining about is White's donation. And AFAICT the admiration for NOI in AA communities has less to do with handouts (done by many organizations) than with the turning around of lives by religious conversion.

Religious conversion to what? Not to an NOI follower, I hope. We don't need any more antisemitic thinkers, and if they follow Farrakhan, that's what he'll turn them into. Why is everyone OK with this?

You honestly think that if David Duke went to white poor rural areas, handing out food, spreading his mission, and "converting" people to his "ministry" , there would not be an outcry from AAs? (Someone else brought this up a little while ago, and there was no response.)

Poor rural areas are no different than poor urban areas in that no one pays any attention to them.
No one pays attention to the people living in them or their plight which makes it all the more easy for predatory lenders and bankers to wreak havoc on those areas for profit thus worsening their predicaments, but also because no one pays attention to them it makes it all the more easy for all kinds of extremist groups to proliferate their propaganda in those areas under the guise philanthropic programs.

I mean think about it - did you even know about the NOI's charitable work in Ward 8 prior to this big news story about Councilmember White? I'm betting you didn't know because most people don't pay any attention to what goes on in a poor urban area like Ward 8 because most people simply didn't care.

Now think about this - did you know that in 2000 the organization David Duke founded called the National Association for the Advancement of White People (NAAWP) began it's "Operation Appalachian"? It was a program designed to "deliver the basic staples of life to the deserving folk of Appalachia particularly whites of European ancestry" and sure they gave away bookbags, notebooks, calculators, and pencils, but they also gave away hateful propaganda. I'm betting you didn't know because most people don't pay attention to what goes on poor rural areas like Loudendale, West Virginia because most people simply don't care.

So you see the pendulum swings both ways and it's not that folks are okay with anti-Semitism nor are people okay with white nationalism or any other vile race-based hatred out there - the simple fact is when it comes to poor people NO ONE CARES. That's why there's no outcry because the people in trenches are too caught up in the struggle to care who it is that's providing them assistance and the people on the outside of the trenches are too wrapped up in their own little bubbles to notice what's going on elsewhere.

Very True.

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Anonymous wrote:We've gone from a discussion of Trayon's horrible behavior in regard to Jews to heaping praise of Farrakhan's antisemtitic NOI? Seems like some of you are intent on proving that you DGAD about Jews or antisemtitem (unless it's coming from the alt-right). You don't think this type of antisemtism is as harmful, if not moreso, than the isolated rallies of nutjobs?

Also, White did not only say that the Rothschild's control the weather. He also said they control the World Bank AND the federal government. Everyone knows about the false conspiracy theories about the all-powerful Jews controlling the banks. He KNEW, especially when you put it together the venom he heard coming from Farrakhan.

And now, in the face of not one, not two, but THREE separate incidences showing White's "insensitivity" to antisemtism, the response is to stsrt talking about the positives of a virulently antisemitic organization that seeks to gain more followers.

O. M. G.

If Mr White had those same things about the Koch brothers, what would your reaction have been ? Please stop !

What do you mean? It's the same thing exactly! Antisemitism. Why is this even a question?

Except the Koch brothers aren't Jewish , see how much a fool you've made of yourself ?

Then why are you using them as an example? They're irrelevant to this discussion of Stereotypes of powerful Jews who control banks and the government.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You know, I thought Sarah Palin was a symbol of everything wrong with the Republican national party in 2008, but I was still appalled at the sexism that characterized the attacks against her.

It is possible to both disagree with someone politically and recognize when they're right about prejudice...

That's what's happening here, in some instances. The Jews who are being raked over the coals for recognizing White's antisemtism and calling it like it is are being vilified because they are not going along with the liberals, and in this case it means to find ways to excuse or deny antisemitism among liberals. Now, if we were to bring up bigotry by conservatives, we'd be cheered on.

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Anonymous wrote:You know, I thought Sarah Palin was a symbol of everything wrong with the Republican national party in 2008, but I was still appalled at the sexism that characterized the attacks against her.

It is possible to both disagree with someone politically and recognize when they're right about prejudice...

That's what's happening here, in some instances. The Jews who are being raked over the coals for recognizing White's antisemtism and calling it like it is are being vilified because they are not going along with the liberals, and in this case it means to find ways to excuse or deny antisemitism among liberals. Now, if we were to bring up bigotry by conservatives, we'd be cheered on.

I am not aware of any liberals other than Mr Steele who are attacking the Jewish CMs or JCRC, etc for taking issue with CM White. Don't generalize from Mr Steele to all liberals.

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Anonymous wrote:You know, I thought Sarah Palin was a symbol of everything wrong with the Republican national party in 2008, but I was still appalled at the sexism that characterized the attacks against her.

It is possible to both disagree with someone politically and recognize when they're right about prejudice...

That's what's happening here, in some instances. The Jews who are being raked over the coals for recognizing White's antisemtism and calling it like it is are being vilified because they are not going along with the liberals, and in this case it means to find ways to excuse or deny antisemitism among liberals. Now, if we were to bring up bigotry by conservatives, we'd be cheered on.

Mr white's comments were not he clean cut case of anti Semitism that you're making it out to be ,no matter how many times you falsely repeat the claim

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You know, I thought Sarah Palin was a symbol of everything wrong with the Republican national party in 2008, but I was still appalled at the sexism that characterized the attacks against her.

It is possible to both disagree with someone politically and recognize when they're right about prejudice...

That's what's happening here, in some instances. The Jews who are being raked over the coals for recognizing White's antisemtism and calling it like it is are being vilified because they are not going along with the liberals, and in this case it means to find ways to excuse or deny antisemitism among liberals. Now, if we were to bring up bigotry by conservatives, we'd be cheered on.

I am not aware of any liberals other than Mr Steele who are attacking the Jewish CMs or JCRC, etc for taking issue with CM White. Don't generalize from Mr Steele to all liberals.

Mr Steele attacked nobody ,stop manufacturing facts to fit your twisted view of reality

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Anonymous wrote:We've gone from a discussion of Trayon's horrible behavior in regard to Jews to heaping praise of Farrakhan's antisemtitic NOI? Seems like some of you are intent on proving that you DGAD about Jews or antisemtitem (unless it's coming from the alt-right). You don't think this type of antisemtism is as harmful, if not moreso, than the isolated rallies of nutjobs?

Also, White did not only say that the Rothschild's control the weather. He also said they control the World Bank AND the federal government. Everyone knows about the false conspiracy theories about the all-powerful Jews controlling the banks. He KNEW, especially when you put it together the venom he heard coming from Farrakhan.

And now, in the face of not one, not two, but THREE separate incidences showing White's "insensitivity" to antisemtism, the response is to stsrt talking about the positives of a virulently antisemitic organization that seeks to gain more followers.

O. M. G.

If Mr White had those same things about the Koch brothers, what would your reaction have been ? Please stop !

What do you mean? It's the same thing exactly! Antisemitism. Why is this even a question?

Except the Koch brothers aren't Jewish , see how much a fool you've made of yourself ?

Then why are you using them as an example? They're irrelevant to this discussion of Stereotypes of powerful Jews who control banks and the government.

I used them as an example to point that out those comments could've been made about any industrialist , yet you agreed that it will still be anti Semitism despite obviously not knowing that the Koch brothers are not Jewish . Go away

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You know, I thought Sarah Palin was a symbol of everything wrong with the Republican national party in 2008, but I was still appalled at the sexism that characterized the attacks against her.

It is possible to both disagree with someone politically and recognize when they're right about prejudice...

That's what's happening here, in some instances. The Jews who are being raked over the coals for recognizing White's antisemtism and calling it like it is are being vilified because they are not going along with the liberals, and in this case it means to find ways to excuse or deny antisemitism among liberals. Now, if we were to bring up bigotry by conservatives, we'd be cheered on.

I am not aware of any liberals other than Mr Steele who are attacking the Jewish CMs or JCRC, etc for taking issue with CM White. Don't generalize from Mr Steele to all liberals.

....no, I meant attacking Jewish posters here for viewing Mr. White's words and actions as antisemtic and being so brazen as to express it (and I did say....in SOME instances). But you're right, most of the frontal assault is coming from Mr. Steele (who will unfortunately be back here to admonish me further.) It speaks volumes that a thread introduced to discuss White's antisemitism - and more came out on it since the OP - has turned around to excusing White's behavior and instead attacking Jews who object to it.

There has been more hostility toward Jews revealed in this thread than that expressed by White.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You know, I thought Sarah Palin was a symbol of everything wrong with the Republican national party in 2008, but I was still appalled at the sexism that characterized the attacks against her.

It is possible to both disagree with someone politically and recognize when they're right about prejudice...

That's what's happening here, in some instances. The Jews who are being raked over the coals for recognizing White's antisemtism and calling it like it is are being vilified because they are not going along with the liberals, and in this case it means to find ways to excuse or deny antisemitism among liberals. Now, if we were to bring up bigotry by conservatives, we'd be cheered on.

Mr white's comments were not he clean cut case of anti Semitism that you're making it out to be ,no matter how many times you falsely repeat the claim

Yes, yes...I know you're in denial.

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Anonymous wrote:We've gone from a discussion of Trayon's horrible behavior in regard to Jews to heaping praise of Farrakhan's antisemtitic NOI? Seems like some of you are intent on proving that you DGAD about Jews or antisemtitem (unless it's coming from the alt-right). You don't think this type of antisemtism is as harmful, if not moreso, than the isolated rallies of nutjobs?

Also, White did not only say that the Rothschild's control the weather. He also said they control the World Bank AND the federal government. Everyone knows about the false conspiracy theories about the all-powerful Jews controlling the banks. He KNEW, especially when you put it together the venom he heard coming from Farrakhan.

And now, in the face of not one, not two, but THREE separate incidences showing White's "insensitivity" to antisemtism, the response is to stsrt talking about the positives of a virulently antisemitic organization that seeks to gain more followers.

O. M. G.

If Mr White had those same things about the Koch brothers, what would your reaction have been ? Please stop !

What do you mean? It's the same thing exactly! Antisemitism. Why is this even a question?

Except the Koch brothers aren't Jewish , see how much a fool you've made of yourself ?

Then why are you using them as an example? They're irrelevant to this discussion of Stereotypes of powerful Jews who control banks and the government.

I used them as an example to point that out those comments could've been made about any industrialist , yet you agreed that it will still be anti Semitism despite obviously not knowing that the Koch brothers are not Jewish . Go away

Duh. Now you're really stretching it. Claiming a Jewish family owns the World Bank is the antisemtitc steretype. And now that White's association and support of Farrakhan came out, it's so obvious where he got it. Farrakhan is always railing against the "rich powerful Jews" who own the world.

But wow. The anger toward Jews is this thread....scary.

[jsteele]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You know, I thought Sarah Palin was a symbol of everything wrong with the Republican national party in 2008, but I was still appalled at the sexism that characterized the attacks against her.

It is possible to both disagree with someone politically and recognize when they're right about prejudice...

That's what's happening here, in some instances. The Jews who are being raked over the coals for recognizing White's antisemtism and calling it like it is are being vilified because they are not going along with the liberals, and in this case it means to find ways to excuse or deny antisemitism among liberals. Now, if we were to bring up bigotry by conservatives, we'd be cheered on.

I am not aware of any liberals other than Mr Steele who are attacking the Jewish CMs or JCRC, etc for taking issue with CM White. Don't generalize from Mr Steele to all liberals.

What are you talking about? I am not attacking the Jewish CMs or the JCRC. I agree with the CMs -- who are not all Jewish -- who have called for censuring White. I emailed Mendelson and Todd myself asking them to take action against White. This is how lies get started. Assholes like you just make up things. Please retract this allegation immediately.

[jsteele]

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Anonymous wrote:And this, in a nutshell, is a form of antisemtitsm itself on the left. It's not just about tiki torches. It's the indifference to antisemtism, the call for patience and understanding in the face of repeated infractions, and the excuse-making - compared to the attack and negative motives upon Jews who are upset about it.

Just out of curiosity, how much difference do you see between conspiracy theories about the Rothschilds and conspiracy theories about George Soros? A lot of the Soros discourse is wrapped up in blatant anti-Semitism. Are you equally offended by that? We see Soros being blamed for all sorts of things almost daily in the Political Forum. Does that concern you? Where does this fit in your theories about "hard" and "soft" anti-Semitism?

Soros himself grew up in what he described as a Jewish ant-Semitic home.

Soros grew up in a Jewish home. What kind of drugs are you on?

Ask Soros. He’s the one who said it:


As a Jew in Hungary in 1944, Soros was in serious danger of deportation. To avoid Soros’ apprehension by the Nazis, his father had him spend the summer of 1944 living with a non-Jewish Ministry of Agriculture employee, posing as his godson. George Soros later said that he “grew up in a Jewish, anti-Semitic home,” and that his parents were “uncomfortable with their religious roots.” They even changed their name from Shwartz to Soros in 1936 to disassociate themselves from the Jewish community.

You don't provide a source for your quote, but a search for that exact language turned up a website that gave the source as Wikipedia. Wikipedia says this:

"Soros has wryly described his home as a Jewish antisemitic home."

"Wryly" is defined as "in a way that expresses dry, especially mocking, humor." Soros was joking, not saying that he literally grew up in an anti-Semitic house.

Ironically, in other circumstances, misrepresenting something in this way would itself be described as anti-Semitic.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You know, I thought Sarah Palin was a symbol of everything wrong with the Republican national party in 2008, but I was still appalled at the sexism that characterized the attacks against her.

It is possible to both disagree with someone politically and recognize when they're right about prejudice...

That's what's happening here, in some instances. The Jews who are being raked over the coals for recognizing White's antisemtism and calling it like it is are being vilified because they are not going along with the liberals, and in this case it means to find ways to excuse or deny antisemitism among liberals. Now, if we were to bring up bigotry by conservatives, we'd be cheered on.

Mr white's comments were not he clean cut case of anti Semitism that you're making it out to be ,no matter how many times you falsely repeat the claim

Yes, yes...I know you're in denial.

And so are you

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We've gone from a discussion of Trayon's horrible behavior in regard to Jews to heaping praise of Farrakhan's antisemtitic NOI? Seems like some of you are intent on proving that you DGAD about Jews or antisemtitem (unless it's coming from the alt-right). You don't think this type of antisemtism is as harmful, if not moreso, than the isolated rallies of nutjobs?

Also, White did not only say that the Rothschild's control the weather. He also said they control the World Bank AND the federal government. Everyone knows about the false conspiracy theories about the all-powerful Jews controlling the banks. He KNEW, especially when you put it together the venom he heard coming from Farrakhan.

And now, in the face of not one, not two, but THREE separate incidences showing White's "insensitivity" to antisemtism, the response is to stsrt talking about the positives of a virulently antisemitic organization that seeks to gain more followers.

O. M. G.

If Mr White had those same things about the Koch brothers, what would your reaction have been ? Please stop !

What do you mean? It's the same thing exactly! Antisemitism. Why is this even a question?

Except the Koch brothers aren't Jewish , see how much a fool you've made of yourself ?

Then why are you using them as an example? They're irrelevant to this discussion of Stereotypes of powerful Jews who control banks and the government.

I used them as an example to point that out those comments could've been made about any industrialist , yet you agreed that it will still be anti Semitism despite obviously not knowing that the Koch brothers are not Jewish . Go away

Duh. Now you're really stretching it. Claiming a Jewish family owns the World Bank is the antisemtitc steretype. And now that White's association and support of Farrakhan came out, it's so obvious where he got it. Farrakhan is always railing against the "rich powerful Jews" who own the world.

But wow. The anger toward Jews is this thread....scary.

It's nice out there , take a walk or something . Your insufferability is unbecoming

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We've gone from a discussion of Trayon's horrible behavior in regard to Jews to heaping praise of Farrakhan's antisemtitic NOI? Seems like some of you are intent on proving that you DGAD about Jews or antisemtitem (unless it's coming from the alt-right). You don't think this type of antisemtism is as harmful, if not moreso, than the isolated rallies of nutjobs?

Also, White did not only say that the Rothschild's control the weather. He also said they control the World Bank AND the federal government. Everyone knows about the false conspiracy theories about the all-powerful Jews controlling the banks. He KNEW, especially when you put it together the venom he heard coming from Farrakhan.

And now, in the face of not one, not two, but THREE separate incidences showing White's "insensitivity" to antisemtism, the response is to stsrt talking about the positives of a virulently antisemitic organization that seeks to gain more followers.

O. M. G.

If Mr White had those same things about the Koch brothers, what would your reaction have been ? Please stop !

What do you mean? It's the same thing exactly! Antisemitism. Why is this even a question?

Except the Koch brothers aren't Jewish , see how much a fool you've made of yourself ?

Then why are you using them as an example? They're irrelevant to this discussion of Stereotypes of powerful Jews who control banks and the government.

I used them as an example to point that out those comments could've been made about any industrialist , yet you agreed that it will still be anti Semitism despite obviously not knowing that the Koch brothers are not Jewish . Go away

Duh. Now you're really stretching it. Claiming a Jewish family owns the World Bank is the antisemtitc steretype. And now that White's association and support of Farrakhan came out, it's so obvious where he got it. Farrakhan is always railing against the "rich powerful Jews" who own the world.

But wow. The anger toward Jews is this thread....scary.

You can criticize someone who happens to be Jew without being anti Semite , Jews are not above criticism