Why do uneducated people homeschool?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Homeschooling has a few camps

Meaning religious nuts not educating at all. To some parents who are highly educated source outside help and their kids head off to college.

I personally have never hired someone who was homeschooled and I would not.

Some homeschooled kids are great; others are not.

Some public school kids are great; others are not.

Why are you so closed minded? Why does it offend you when others make different parenting choices than you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They don’t know what they don’t know. Matt Walsh was homeschooled himself, didn’t go to college, and homeschools his own kids (or his wife does).

The Matt Walsh to whom you refer is a right wing nut job. Not unsuccessful but not a raging success. Not sure why you would reference him in any capacity.

The cool Matt Walsh (Veep and many other acting creds) went the traditional school route.

So, what is your point?

[Anonymous]

Home school all you want I do not care what your choice is for your kid.

But when the state I live in starts floating school choice then my opinion changed.

And if you home school stay the hell out of public school policies, school boards, etc....

[Anonymous]

I think my brother and sister in law “homeschool” because they don’t have to leave the house. SIL doesn’t drive and if their kids actually experienced life outside their home they’d realized what crappy parents they are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most public school kids here are effectively homeschooled first few years. We pulled out of public because our kid learned zero there, literally NOTHING, and I work a lot of hours - too many to homeschool at night. She told us all she did was color and talk about which pilgrims liked corn or whatever. Public parents used to always say "well it's the parents responsibility to teach, not the school." Parents taught their kids to read, gave them math workbooks, took them to Kumon, Russian math or spider math, coding, test prep, etc. That is homeschooling. Then, they'd boast how "gifted" their heavily homeschooled/prepped kids were and how excellent their public was, when everyone knew it wasn't organic IQ. Oh brother. If my parents put that much effort into my academics in the home, I'd probably be freaking Dougie Houser

Coloring and pilgrim corn predilections...sounds like an eclectic school.

If I send my kid to train with a professional pitcher to work on his pitching mechanics (outside of his normal team), I don't say I "hometrained" him. Not sure how using 3rd parties where all the parent does is register their kid for the class is homeschooling.

Many of the top international school systems, Finland namely, don't spend a ton of time teaching direct educational skills until much later than in the US. Most kids in Finland don't learn to read until age 7. They actually spend a ton of time in the earlier years on group dynamics and social skills. Yet, they routinely have some of the best international test scores at the HS years.

Baseball is not a school subject, so you're right, teaching a kid baseball is not like homeschooling. We aren't in Finland either.

Ugh, I hope you don't homeschool because your reading and critical analysis skills are lacking. I guess, let's break it down in a simple way for you to understand:

- PP says that many of us that send our kids to public, effectively homeschool them because we read to them and sign them up for 3rd party services like Kumon, Mathnasium, and Russian Math;
- When I sign my kid up for Kumon, I am walking into a franchise, picking the classes, paying my $$$, asking for pick-up time and then I go shop at the grocery store or whatever and then return when it is over;
- Not sure how this is any way homeschooling, so it confuses the situation;
- That said, if you want to define this as homeschooling, then when my 16-year-old is throwing a 95mph fastball or is performing at Carnegie Hall (both having received professional instruction from a paid instructor), I will happily say that I hometrained him...or homemusicianed him. Any reasonable person when hearing those terms will assume that I in fact made them the great athlete/musician that they became...when I explain that they actually received paid instruction from professionals, their admiration for my skills will wane;
- I assume the PP's child is/was young when she described her day as coloring and learning about Pilgrim corn interests. She then went on to say that her public school receives tons of accolades. Maybe they have a philosophy or teaching method for young kids that just doesn't align with the parents that think their kids need to know how to read at age 4. It is fine if you disagree, but not necessarily reasonable to cast aspersions on this school.

Hope by dumbing this all down you now understand. I doubt you will, but not much I can do about that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most public school kids here are effectively homeschooled first few years. We pulled out of public because our kid learned zero there, literally NOTHING, and I work a lot of hours - too many to homeschool at night. She told us all she did was color and talk about which pilgrims liked corn or whatever. Public parents used to always say "well it's the parents responsibility to teach, not the school." Parents taught their kids to read, gave them math workbooks, took them to Kumon, Russian math or spider math, coding, test prep, etc. That is homeschooling. Then, they'd boast how "gifted" their heavily homeschooled/prepped kids were and how excellent their public was, when everyone knew it wasn't organic IQ. Oh brother. If my parents put that much effort into my academics in the home, I'd probably be freaking Dougie Houser

Coloring and pilgrim corn predilections...sounds like an eclectic school.

If I send my kid to train with a professional pitcher to work on his pitching mechanics (outside of his normal team), I don't say I "hometrained" him. Not sure how using 3rd parties where all the parent does is register their kid for the class is homeschooling.

Many of the top international school systems, Finland namely, don't spend a ton of time teaching direct educational skills until much later than in the US. Most kids in Finland don't learn to read until age 7. They actually spend a ton of time in the earlier years on group dynamics and social skills. Yet, they routinely have some of the best international test scores at the HS years.

Baseball is not a school subject, so you're right, teaching a kid baseball is not like homeschooling. We aren't in Finland either.

Ugh, I hope you don't homeschool because your reading and critical analysis skills are lacking. I guess, let's break it down in a simple way for you to understand:

- PP says that many of us that send our kids to public, effectively homeschool them because we read to them and sign them up for 3rd party services like Kumon, Mathnasium, and Russian Math;
- When I sign my kid up for Kumon, I am walking into a franchise, picking the classes, paying my $$$, asking for pick-up time and then I go shop at the grocery store or whatever and then return when it is over;
- Not sure how this is any way homeschooling, so it confuses the situation;
- That said, if you want to define this as homeschooling, then when my 16-year-old is throwing a 95mph fastball or is performing at Carnegie Hall (both having received professional instruction from a paid instructor), I will happily say that I hometrained him...or homemusicianed him. Any reasonable person when hearing those terms will assume that I in fact made them the great athlete/musician that they became...when I explain that they actually received paid instruction from professionals, their admiration for my skills will wane;
- I assume the PP's child is/was young when she described her day as coloring and learning about Pilgrim corn interests. She then went on to say that her public school receives tons of accolades. Maybe they have a philosophy or teaching method for young kids that just doesn't align with the parents that think their kids need to know how to read at age 4. It is fine if you disagree, but not necessarily reasonable to cast aspersions on this school.

Hope by dumbing this all down you now understand. I doubt you will, but not much I can do about that.

Homeschooling is a legal term. It means you’re legally responsible for your own child’s education. You can use kumon or teach them yourself. Either way, it’s homeschooling.

[Anonymous]

My cousin does this. It’s because they are poor white in an area that’s mostly black. The school is rough, but they do it for segregation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My cousin does this. It’s because they are poor white in an area that’s mostly black. The school is rough, but they do it for segregation.

Her kids would probably get bullied.

[Anonymous]

Homeschooling is about control.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My cousin does this. It’s because they are poor white in an area that’s mostly black. The school is rough, but they do it for segregation.

Her kids would probably get bullied.

The kids absolutely would be bullied.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Homeschooling is about control.

So is public education.

[Anonymous]

I think there are some people out there who do it really, really well….but a scary amount who do not. And the general lack of oversight / accountability is really terrifying.

Regarding why uneducated people do it, I think a lot of time the answer is religion. Also it’s seen as the “right” or “admirable” thing to do in certain communities. More sinisterly, there are less eyes watching your children / their well-being

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think there are some people out there who do it really, really well….but a scary amount who do not. And the general lack of oversight / accountability is really terrifying.

Regarding why uneducated people do it, I think a lot of time the answer is religion. Also it’s seen as the “right” or “admirable” thing to do in certain communities. More sinisterly, there are less eyes watching your children / their well-being

I'm a Christian and I know a lot of homeschooling families from my church. All of them are college graduates (and no, not all from Liberty) and many of them have advanced degrees.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If homeschoolers are so uneducated, they'll fail in life and will pose no threat to you and your school-going kids.

Well, except that they’re allowed to vote…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Educated homeschoolers are posting in response to OP's question to push back against the stereotype that only uneducated religious extremists homeschool.

+1, I don't homeschool but the homeschool families I know all have highly educated parents who have done it for reasons like:

- escaping bullying or serious inadequacies in local public school, sometimes as a bridge before moving or transferring to private (these examples involve school situations that were really bad and required immediate action, though sometimes the family discovered that home school was a great option and stuck with it past the immediate urgent need)
- to support a child's interest in a demanding extra-curricular, like very serious musicians or dancers who are at a pre-professional level, and homeschooling facilitates an intense practice and performance schedule that would be hard to undertake with a traditional school
- one parent has a job that moves the family to an area with inadequate schools and the other (educated) parent homeschools because the opportunity is too good to pass on, in most cases this has involved an international move that also facilitated a lot of travel and amazing experiences for the kids so it's not just about an opportunity for the one parent, it's like a way of doing a once in a lifetime family experience with sacrificing education
- one parent is an actual teacher with high or very specific education standards and figures, I know how to do this anyway why not for my own kids. More likely if the teacher parent's background is Montessori or something like that which is different from traditional education, and also more likely for early grades but kids will go to regular schools for later elementary and definitely MS/HS.

I've never met a stereotypical religious extremist homeschooling family. I'm sure they exist, but I wouldn't assume that was the situation if I met a family and all I knew about them was that they homeschooled.

I’m on the other side of the spectrum where I grew up in an ultra conservative and religious church. There were several families who homeschooled, and they were the most “Devout” and “faithful”, in reality, they were probably the most extreme of the group. I don’t claim to know the parent’s educational levels because I was a kid myself. However, until I was an adult, I didn’t realize that non religious people also homeschooled.