All clothing is ugly these days

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Anonymous wrote:I don't work out of the house, but I would wear something like this to work with a little sweater over it and a pair of pumps:

https://www.bloomingdales.com/shop/product/lauren-ralph-lauren-petites-floral-print-dress?ID=2587405&CategoryID=3985&LinkType=#fn=BRAND%3DArmani%20Collezioni;;Burberry;;Free%20People;;HALSTON%20HERITAGE;;Joie;;Laundry%20by%20Shelli%20Segal;;Levi's;;Ralph%20Lauren;;Soft%20Joie;;T%20Tahari;;Ted%20Baker;;Theory%26ppp%3D%26spp%3D5%26sp%3D6%26rid%3D121|BOOST%20SAVED%20SET%26spc%3D782%26rsid%3Dundefined%26pn%3D6|9|5|782

That's a cocktail dress, not a dress for work, unless you are in a traditionally female job.

indeed. very pretty. a 50 year old woman could wear it on a date or to a garden party and feel quite appropriately dressed.

Um, is this a sincere or a snarky comment? So hard to tell on this thread.

well, I'm fifty and I can imagine dreaming my DH would take me someplace where I could wear that.

So why don't you go there yourself? Why are you waiting for DH to "take you" somewhere?

My husband dislikes sushi, and I love high-end Japanese restaurants. I go every now and then with girlfriends, or with my cousin, as these people in my life adore this kind of experience just as much as I do. I dress up a bit and go out with my friends. You should, too.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:These pants are adorable as well:

https://www.bloomingdales.com/shop/product/armani-collezioni-stretch-wool-cropped-skinny-pants?ID=2427119&CategoryID=3985#fn=BRAND%3DArmani%20Collezioni;;Burberry;;Free%20People;;HALSTON%20HERITAGE;;Joie;;Laundry%20by%20Shelli%20Segal;;Levi's;;Ralph%20Lauren;;Soft%20Joie;;T%20Tahari;;Ted%20Baker;;Theory%26ppp%3D%26spp%3D28%26sp%3D6%26rid%3D121|BOOST%20SAVED%20SET%26spc%3D782%26rsid%3Dundefined%26pn%3D6|9|28|782

At the low, low sales price of just $387!

No one cuts like Armani

+1, if the fit on those is good, they're worth a splurge. What's the alternative, buying not quite right black pants on discount year in year out. That adds up. And most people grab a few extra things every time they step in a discount store, it's not hard to rack up $400 in junk.

God I hate when people with sufficient money opine on the worth of purchases for poor people. When they talk about how expensive it is to be poor, this is one of the things they're talking about. DH and I weren't even poor (except by DCUM standards), but we did with Target, Lands End and Goodwill clothes. It would take us four trips to Target over several months to spend $400 because we didn't have the discretionary income to spend. $400 pants aren't worth a splurge if you haven't got $400 laying around for a single pair of pants, and literally most of us don't.

The problem is that many of us used to be able to shop at Target. The older I get the more their clothes just don't fit. Now I do spend and do have a pair of Armani pants. They were about $400, but I bought them 7 years ago and they still look great. To me, that was worth it. I own 3 pairs of expensive black pants. I've had them for many years. They were worth it.

[Anonymous]

https://www.washingtonian.com/2017/08/30/nine-best-dressed-people-washington-style-setters/

Just ugh. There's just so much wrong with this, starting with how do these people with relatively low-paying jobs (i.e. the journalists) afford these outfits? And why did they put the women who likely actually works in an office every day in an evening gown?

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Anonymous wrote:It's a mix of shitty quality and laughable cuts, and you can't decouple the two. For example, I had a FITTED, 3/4 sleeves stretch cotton blend sweater from the GAP that I wore for all four years of college in the early 2000's. It got washed and dried in dormitory appliances, never handled delicately, and it looked great with both jeans and nice trousers. Fast forward to today - that sweater from the GAP is now likely to be a TENT with slits up the sides and look most appropriate for slobbing around the house in. And after one cycle of wash and dry, will be a pilled ball of wrinkly ragged mess.

Preach

Exactly!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonian.com/2017/08/30/nine-best-dressed-people-washington-style-setters/

Just ugh. There's just so much wrong with this, starting with how do these people with relatively low-paying jobs (i.e. the journalists) afford these outfits? And why did they put the women who likely actually works in an office every day in an evening gown?

I think all these women look awful. The dress the blonde woman is wearing is sort of cute, but is not flattering on her. That gingham shirt with the poof sleeves is beyond awful. I actually like gingham and have some gingham stuff, but that looks like a high school musical costume for a hip hop Wizard of Oz. Complete with the silver shoes. Yikes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonian.com/2017/08/30/nine-best-dressed-people-washington-style-setters/

Just ugh. There's just so much wrong with this, starting with how do these people with relatively low-paying jobs (i.e. the journalists) afford these outfits? And why did they put the women who likely actually works in an office every day in an evening gown?

weird, why isn't our dear publicist featured???

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:These pants are adorable as well:

https://www.bloomingdales.com/shop/product/armani-collezioni-stretch-wool-cropped-skinny-pants?ID=2427119&CategoryID=3985#fn=BRAND%3DArmani%20Collezioni;;Burberry;;Free%20People;;HALSTON%20HERITAGE;;Joie;;Laundry%20by%20Shelli%20Segal;;Levi's;;Ralph%20Lauren;;Soft%20Joie;;T%20Tahari;;Ted%20Baker;;Theory%26ppp%3D%26spp%3D28%26sp%3D6%26rid%3D121|BOOST%20SAVED%20SET%26spc%3D782%26rsid%3Dundefined%26pn%3D6|9|28|782

At the low, low sales price of just $387!

No one cuts like Armani

+1, if the fit on those is good, they're worth a splurge. What's the alternative, buying not quite right black pants on discount year in year out. That adds up. And most people grab a few extra things every time they step in a discount store, it's not hard to rack up $400 in junk.

I've never paid more than about $80 for pants. I would actually consider paying $387 for a pair of the perfect pants that I was confident would last me for year BUT I wouldn't do it for pants that are basically cropped. It's too trendy a look, can't be worn year-round, and can only be worn with heels (which I can't do on a regular basis). If I am going to buy a pair of "investment" pants, they better be a real workhorse, and these pants are just not.

[Anonymous]

Even BR is getting into the act:
http://bananarepublic.gap.com/browse/product.do?cid=1061551&pcid=1014739&vid=1&pid=876157002

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These pants are adorable as well:

https://www.bloomingdales.com/shop/product/armani-collezioni-stretch-wool-cropped-skinny-pants?ID=2427119&CategoryID=3985#fn=BRAND%3DArmani%20Collezioni;;Burberry;;Free%20People;;HALSTON%20HERITAGE;;Joie;;Laundry%20by%20Shelli%20Segal;;Levi's;;Ralph%20Lauren;;Soft%20Joie;;T%20Tahari;;Ted%20Baker;;Theory%26ppp%3D%26spp%3D28%26sp%3D6%26rid%3D121|BOOST%20SAVED%20SET%26spc%3D782%26rsid%3Dundefined%26pn%3D6|9|28|782

At the low, low sales price of just $387!

No one cuts like Armani

+1, if the fit on those is good, they're worth a splurge. What's the alternative, buying not quite right black pants on discount year in year out. That adds up. And most people grab a few extra things every time they step in a discount store, it's not hard to rack up $400 in junk.

I've never paid more than about $80 for pants. I would actually consider paying $387 for a pair of the perfect pants that I was confident would last me for year BUT I wouldn't do it for pants that are basically cropped. It's too trendy a look, can't be worn year-round, and can only be worn with heels (which I can't do on a regular basis). If I am going to buy a pair of "investment" pants, they better be a real workhorse, and these pants are just not.

Yeah, I said if, I don't own or recommend that particular pair of pants but I wouldn't write off a good pair of pants at that price either. I just think it's foolish to bemoan the state of fashion and then balk at price when so much of what's wrong with fashion is because of the race to the bottom.

To the other PP, Of course not everyone can afford those pants and many depend on discounters or goodwill, etc, just to be clothed. But plenty of people who insist on buying discount aren't doing it because they have to and aren't even saving any money. They're pumping the perceived savings into more purchases and disposable items. That person would be wise to at least consider paying significantly more for one great item, doesn't have to be this pair of pants, of course.

[Anonymous]

I popped into Banana Republic today, and noticed they're selling a version of the Sgt. Pepper's jacket. Or maybe it's Michael Jackson meets bellhop?

http://bananarepublic.gap.com/browse/product.do?cid=1091938&pcid=99915&vid=1&pid=875222002

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I popped into Banana Republic today, and noticed they're selling a version of the Sgt. Pepper's jacket. Or maybe it's Michael Jackson meets bellhop?

http://bananarepublic.gap.com/browse/product.do?cid=1091938&pcid=99915&vid=1&pid=875222002

No, that coat straight up looks like you're going to roll up to a boss party in Munchinkinland. And when they ask where you got your awesome coat, you can say, sorry - I got it somewhere over the rainbow.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I popped into Banana Republic today, and noticed they're selling a version of the Sgt. Pepper's jacket. Or maybe it's Michael Jackson meets bellhop?

http://bananarepublic.gap.com/browse/product.do?cid=1091938&pcid=99915&vid=1&pid=875222002

Marching band chic!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I popped into Banana Republic today, and noticed they're selling a version of the Sgt. Pepper's jacket. Or maybe it's Michael Jackson meets bellhop?

http://bananarepublic.gap.com/browse/product.do?cid=1091938&pcid=99915&vid=1&pid=875222002

Marching band chic!!

This is obviously a knock off of Kellyanne Conway's hideous inaugural coat!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Even BR is getting into the act:
http://bananarepublic.gap.com/browse/product.do?cid=1061551&pcid=1014739&vid=1&pid=876157002

I think my problem with this type of fashion is this: it screams I don't actually work for a living. I sit very still and have others around me do the actual work because if I tried to work, my bows and sleeves would catch in everything. they might even come untied. Please don't count on me to do anything besides sit here and look fashionable.

Definitely not my look.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't work out of the house, but I would wear something like this to work with a little sweater over it and a pair of pumps:

https://www.bloomingdales.com/shop/product/lauren-ralph-lauren-petites-floral-print-dress?ID=2587405&CategoryID=3985&LinkType=#fn=BRAND%3DArmani%20Collezioni;;Burberry;;Free%20People;;HALSTON%20HERITAGE;;Joie;;Laundry%20by%20Shelli%20Segal;;Levi's;;Ralph%20Lauren;;Soft%20Joie;;T%20Tahari;;Ted%20Baker;;Theory%26ppp%3D%26spp%3D5%26sp%3D6%26rid%3D121|BOOST%20SAVED%20SET%26spc%3D782%26rsid%3Dundefined%26pn%3D6|9|5|782

That's a cocktail dress, not a dress for work, unless you are in a traditionally female job.

indeed. very pretty. a 50 year old woman could wear it on a date or to a garden party and feel quite appropriately dressed.

Um, is this a sincere or a snarky comment? So hard to tell on this thread.

well, I'm fifty and I can imagine dreaming my DH would take me someplace where I could wear that.

So why don't you go there yourself? Why are you waiting for DH to "take you" somewhere?

My husband dislikes sushi, and I love high-end Japanese restaurants. I go every now and then with girlfriends, or with my cousin, as these people in my life adore this kind of experience just as much as I do. I dress up a bit and go out with my friends. You should, too.

I go to high-end restaurants with my colleagues in my line of work. But they are a very casual crowd. Actually, all my friends are casual as well, and are also too poor to go to high end restaurants (saving all their money to pay more for their kid's college education than they paid for their house). I know there must be dressy people left somewhere in the world, but they don't run in my crowds. And that dress is so pretty, it seems sad not to have somebody staring at you all dinner, waiting as patiently as he can for us to go home, so he can express his appreciation. (remember that I am 50, and wouldn't produce that reaction if I wore something more revealing anymore...

but, once my DH is through college, definitely on our wedding anniversary I'm going to go out with DH to a fancy restaurant wearing a dress that makes a late-50s woman look as attractive as she can