Which is why African Americans are applying to college in such high numbers that they're denying spots to white applicants....oh wait. |
Families were ripped apart and sold off, women raped by their masters or task-masters etc. The idea of a cohesive family unit among slaves is laughable if it wasn't so outrageous that you would even suggest it. |
Well, don't suck me back into Oppression Olympics, but I'd say - from a historical perspective - it's slavery. But that doesn't explain the high out-of-wedlock births now. The rate is much higher than a generation ago. Why? |
No. It has to do with the fact that if a Jewish (or Asian, or UMC White) kid comes home with a B+, his parents will blow their stack. It's not like this in most AA households. |
No. You misunderstand. I'm not saying the families were intact. I'm saying the desire for intact family units was strong. We are talking about the values. |
Yes. A nice Jewish girl here, and I came home with a B in math. My father asked me why I didn't tell him I was "struggling" in math and ask to get help. And then I remember playing kickball, and my mom calling me in to "practice my math." Because of a B! |
Slavery tore apart families. http://www.pbs.org/wnet/slavery/experience/family/history.html The family breakdown is just in recent years? |
| NP. How was it in the 50's and 60's? |
I know you don't want to respond to my comment. At the end of the day you're more than welcome to stick out your chest and hold your head high. By all means please do take pride in the accomplishments and achievements of Jews, especially considering the obstacles they've had to overcome it truly is remarkable and worthy of praise. And with all due respect, I intend to do the exact same. There is nothing you can say that can deter me from sticking out my chest and holding my head high and believe me when I say that despite the tendency of some not unlike yourself who try to diminish and degrade blacks as being "lesser" I nonetheless take great pride in the accomplishments and achievements of African-Americans. ESPECIALLY considering the many obstacles that we've had to overcome and continue to wrestle with to this day. |
Who knows (I'm sure social scientists and historians do), but your improper use of the phrase "beg the question" makes me question your own commitment to education. |
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The black concentration is half the Asian concentration at Harvard.
Any analysis of standardized testing score distribution shows clearly that a non- race based system would NOT enable that demographic enrollment mix. If you are black and get a 1450 on the sat, you can walk into the Ivy League. |
I'm relatively new to this thread. Did someone say that AA's are "lesser"? Or are you just projecting that onto other people? What people are saying that is certain cultures take education more seriously than others. Or, maybe it would be more accurate to say that certain cultures are more effective at keeping their kids disciplined about school and more willing to push them to get good grades than others. AAs might take education "seriously," but I just don't think you realize how much more demanding the parents of jewish, asian and UMC whites are of their children when it comes to education. |
No one is diminishing or degrading blacks. Blacks just have different strengths. For example, there will never be a Jewish or Asian Serena Williams, Lebron, Jordan, usain bolt, mo Farrah, etc. That will never ever ever happen. Black men are also way better at sex. |
Jews faced that in Egypt, no? |
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I went to public (state) schools with diverse populations. I distinctly remember that in nearly every class, roughly half of the AAs were getting terrible grades. They would do poorly on tests, rarely do homework and end up with Ds and Fs. Yes, some AAs would do well. And some kids from other races would do poorly, but there was clearly a disparity.
Was it because AAs are less intelligent? No. You don't have to be smart to get good grades in a public K-12. You just have to study and do your homework! Why is it that some kids study and do their homework, and others do not? The answer is because their parents force them to! That is THE reason. Kids do not naturally want to study or do homework. You have to pressure them. Jewsish, Asian and UMC White kids are forced to do their homework and study. Their parents check their homework EVERY DAY and if they get bad grades, there is hell to pay. They ride their kids' asses for their entire childhood to make sure that they get good grades and get into decent schools because they know that this is hugely important. I can't express enough how much of a difference there is between a typical Jewish/Asian/UMC White household an a typical AA/Latino/Poor White household when it comes to the expectations that they put on their children for education. |