First day drop off -- MD tags

[Anonymous]

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Lots of rough schools in PG county, and if you drive to work in DC, lots of convenient schools, some of them better than your PG options. That residency cheating exists is well-known and documented. The DC govt spends (insufficient) resources policing it and reports on their progress.

If your point was that you live in Bethesda and prefer those schools to DC, who cares, that says nothing about other MD residents.

This whole debate has a lot in common with the church parking issue. Churchgoers at many DC churches actually live in Md. They feel entitled to violate zoned parking laws and double park etc to attend church. They are defended by many native washingtonian AAs and by some long time resident white liberals. And so far, by parking enforcement. And they are criticized by newcomers of all races who think the practice is bullshit and they should move the churches to where they live, or else respect parking laws in Dc.

Same idea with MD people using DC schools (ward 9). Used to be no big deal, but as more and more newcomers arrive and the schools become popular and so on, there is more and more protest. So when you see people defending cheaters here, maybe they are cheaters, but maybe they are just old time washington and they don't like the change that is afoot.

It's so gross that people in this forum spend so much time, mind space and vitriol on this issue, especially when it's evident that if you are at the school making this observation then you've been denied absolutely nothing. If you live in the boundary, you're guaranteed a right to the school. But to go a step further and make it clear that your real disgruntlement is that your neighborhood hasn't cleared out the "old timers" fast enough for your liking is just . . . stomach turning.

DC has been making Sunday parking allowances for decades. Churchgoers are not violating anything except your assumed entitlement to keep black people out of your neighborhood and sight lines once a week. Why - and how - in the world would you expect anyone to move their church?

It has nothing in common with school residency cheating except in your small, mean, racist little mind that's longing for the day when all the people who can't afford $3000/month to live in your midst can be driven out for good. Why don't you just go ahead and do what early segregationists did and gather your neighbors to form a guantlet to spit and throw slurs at the people you don't want in your school.

Otherwise, report your suspicions and then STFU about it. Or maybe move to a place where black people wouldn't dare try to get into your school. There's someone on these boards who talks of their district in Alabama where black people who have the choice to go to better schools just don't. (Hmm. I wonder why.)

Um have you been to Capitol Hill lately? Three churches sold their space and moved to PGC. They took advantage of the increased housing prices and sold their spaces for millions and millions of dollars. So I guess moving a church is okay if you get $$$$$$$ right?

- new poster who is happy illegal parking has gone down since the churches have moved.

Yes, some more examples, Mt Pleasant Baptist on 16th also moved (to Bloomingdale?) and is being converted to condos as we speak. There is another church for sale near 11th in Columbia Heights. All over DC, churches are cashing out on real estate and following their congregations east. Contrary to the other PP's angry rant, it makes zero sense for a PG-based congregation to drive into DC every sunday, double parking and blocking other people's driveways. Churches, like elementary schools, are supposed to be close to where you live. Plus they get the real estate gains, and DC residents don't have to deal with the parking headaches. It's win-win.

I agree, a city should cater to its current residents not it's former who left it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Lots of rough schools in PG county, and if you drive to work in DC, lots of convenient schools, some of them better than your PG options. That residency cheating exists is well-known and documented. The DC govt spends (insufficient) resources policing it and reports on their progress.

If your point was that you live in Bethesda and prefer those schools to DC, who cares, that says nothing about other MD residents.

This whole debate has a lot in common with the church parking issue. Churchgoers at many DC churches actually live in Md. They feel entitled to violate zoned parking laws and double park etc to attend church. They are defended by many native washingtonian AAs and by some long time resident white liberals. And so far, by parking enforcement. And they are criticized by newcomers of all races who think the practice is bullshit and they should move the churches to where they live, or else respect parking laws in Dc.

Same idea with MD people using DC schools (ward 9). Used to be no big deal, but as more and more newcomers arrive and the schools become popular and so on, there is more and more protest. So when you see people defending cheaters here, maybe they are cheaters, but maybe they are just old time washington and they don't like the change that is afoot.

It's so gross that people in this forum spend so much time, mind space and vitriol on this issue, especially when it's evident that if you are at the school making this observation then you've been denied absolutely nothing. If you live in the boundary, you're guaranteed a right to the school. But to go a step further and make it clear that your real disgruntlement is that your neighborhood hasn't cleared out the "old timers" fast enough for your liking is just . . . stomach turning.

DC has been making Sunday parking allowances for decades. Churchgoers are not violating anything except your assumed entitlement to keep black people out of your neighborhood and sight lines once a week. Why - and how - in the world would you expect anyone to move their church?

It has nothing in common with school residency cheating except in your small, mean, racist little mind that's longing for the day when all the people who can't afford $3000/month to live in your midst can be driven out for good. Why don't you just go ahead and do what early segregationists did and gather your neighbors to form a guantlet to spit and throw slurs at the people you don't want in your school.

Otherwise, report your suspicions and then STFU about it. Or maybe move to a place where black people wouldn't dare try to get into your school. There's someone on these boards who talks of their district in Alabama where black people who have the choice to go to better schools just don't. (Hmm. I wonder why.)

Um have you been to Capitol Hill lately? Three churches sold their space and moved to PGC. They took advantage of the increased housing prices and sold their spaces for millions and millions of dollars. So I guess moving a church is okay if you get $$$$$$$ right?

- new poster who is happy illegal parking has gone down since the churches have moved.

Yes, some more examples, Mt Pleasant Baptist on 16th also moved (to Bloomingdale?) and is being converted to condos as we speak. There is another church for sale near 11th in Columbia Heights. All over DC, churches are cashing out on real estate and following their congregations east. Contrary to the other PP's angry rant, it makes zero sense for a PG-based congregation to drive into DC every sunday, double parking and blocking other people's driveways. Churches, like elementary schools, are supposed to be close to where you live. Plus they get the real estate gains, and DC residents don't have to deal with the parking headaches. It's win-win.

I agree, a city should cater to its current residents not it's former who left it.

You clearly don't understand the nature of the special relationship between DC and "Ward 9."

[Anonymous]

Still running about 50% Maryland tags at my kid's Capitol Hill public school. Cars come in from Maryland, drop them off, head downtown.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Still running about 50% Maryland tags at my kid's Capitol Hill public school. Cars come in from Maryland, drop them off, head downtown.

What school is 50%?! That's insane. I know it happens and I know people claim they keep cars registered in MD due to $ (a claim I must admit is fair since I live in ward 5 and see a lot of MD plates in driveways) but there no way 50% is fair. I'm also surrounded by vacant houses that have addresses easily abused for this sort of fraud. Report it. Report it. Report it!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Still running about 50% Maryland tags at my kid's Capitol Hill public school. Cars come in from Maryland, drop them off, head downtown.

What school is 50%?! That's insane. I know it happens and I know people claim they keep cars registered in MD due to $ (a claim I must admit is fair since I live in ward 5 and see a lot of MD plates in driveways) but there no way 50% is fair. I'm also surrounded by vacant houses that have addresses easily abused for this sort of fraud. Report it. Report it. Report it!!!

Where in Ward 5 are you surrounded by vacant houses? And yes, there are a lot of MD tags in DC driveways and backyards.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Still running about 50% Maryland tags at my kid's Capitol Hill public school. Cars come in from Maryland, drop them off, head downtown.

How many walk?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Lots of rough schools in PG county, and if you drive to work in DC, lots of convenient schools, some of them better than your PG options. That residency cheating exists is well-known and documented. The DC govt spends (insufficient) resources policing it and reports on their progress.

If your point was that you live in Bethesda and prefer those schools to DC, who cares, that says nothing about other MD residents.

This whole debate has a lot in common with the church parking issue. Churchgoers at many DC churches actually live in Md. They feel entitled to violate zoned parking laws and double park etc to attend church. They are defended by many native washingtonian AAs and by some long time resident white liberals. And so far, by parking enforcement. And they are criticized by newcomers of all races who think the practice is bullshit and they should move the churches to where they live, or else respect parking laws in Dc.

Same idea with MD people using DC schools (ward 9). Used to be no big deal, but as more and more newcomers arrive and the schools become popular and so on, there is more and more protest. So when you see people defending cheaters here, maybe they are cheaters, but maybe they are just old time washington and they don't like the change that is afoot.

It's so gross that people in this forum spend so much time, mind space and vitriol on this issue, especially when it's evident that if you are at the school making this observation then you've been denied absolutely nothing. If you live in the boundary, you're guaranteed a right to the school. But to go a step further and make it clear that your real disgruntlement is that your neighborhood hasn't cleared out the "old timers" fast enough for your liking is just . . . stomach turning.

DC has been making Sunday parking allowances for decades. Churchgoers are not violating anything except your assumed entitlement to keep black people out of your neighborhood and sight lines once a week. Why - and how - in the world would you expect anyone to move their church?

It has nothing in common with school residency cheating except in your small, mean, racist little mind that's longing for the day when all the people who can't afford $3000/month to live in your midst can be driven out for good. Why don't you just go ahead and do what early segregationists did and gather your neighbors to form a guantlet to spit and throw slurs at the people you don't want in your school.

Otherwise, report your suspicions and then STFU about it. Or maybe move to a place where black people wouldn't dare try to get into your school. There's someone on these boards who talks of their district in Alabama where black people who have the choice to go to better schools just don't. (Hmm. I wonder why.)

Um have you been to Capitol Hill lately? Three churches sold their space and moved to PGC. They took advantage of the increased housing prices and sold their spaces for millions and millions of dollars. So I guess moving a church is okay if you get $$$$$$$ right?

- new poster who is happy illegal parking has gone down since the churches have moved.

Yes, some more examples, Mt Pleasant Baptist on 16th also moved (to Bloomingdale?) and is being converted to condos as we speak. There is another church for sale near 11th in Columbia Heights. All over DC, churches are cashing out on real estate and following their congregations east. Contrary to the other PP's angry rant, it makes zero sense for a PG-based congregation to drive into DC every sunday, double parking and blocking other people's driveways. Churches, like elementary schools, are supposed to be close to where you live. Plus they get the real estate gains, and DC residents don't have to deal with the parking headaches. It's win-win.

I agree, a city should cater to its current residents not it's former who left it.

You clearly don't understand the nature of the special relationship between DC and "Ward 9."

New Poster here-

I do not give a crap about any special relationship. Trust me I will report anyone I suspect of residency fraud.

Ever park illegally in Capitol Hill and get a parking ticket? You're welcome.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Still running about 50% Maryland tags at my kid's Capitol Hill public school. Cars come in from Maryland, drop them off, head downtown.

What school is 50%?! That's insane. I know it happens and I know people claim they keep cars registered in MD due to $ (a claim I must admit is fair since I live in ward 5 and see a lot of MD plates in driveways) but there no way 50% is fair. I'm also surrounded by vacant houses that have addresses easily abused for this sort of fraud. Report it. Report it. Report it!!!

Report what? DCPS' anti-fraud unit isn't going to do anything; they can't get out from behind the desk. The principals don't care and DCPS central doesn't make them care. You may need a new chancellor to set the tone.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Fraud is fraud. Don't justify fraudsters with transgressions about borrowing someone's car or disobeying the law by not wanting to tag a car appropriately. Principals need to get out from behind their desks and nail this stuff down. Oh, but they all live in Md. too, so why do they care?

Is that what you want your principal spending time doing?

I can see dedicating a staff member to do it, but the principal? Really? He or she doesn't have better things to do at your school? Like observing teachers, reviewing data, talking with students and parents?

Yes, really. That's exactly what they should be doing: monitoring cars in the AM and the PM, and greeting parents OUTSIDE. During the day, the can do the other crap you mention.

[Anonymous]

How many walk?

With lazy-ass DC parents?

NONE. No one walks.

I'm so tired of everyone in this city.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fraud is fraud. Don't justify fraudsters with transgressions about borrowing someone's car or disobeying the law by not wanting to tag a car appropriately. Principals need to get out from behind their desks and nail this stuff down. Oh, but they all live in Md. too, so why do they care?

Is that what you want your principal spending time doing?

I can see dedicating a staff member to do it, but the principal? Really? He or she doesn't have better things to do at your school? Like observing teachers, reviewing data, talking with students and parents?

Yes, really. That's exactly what they should be doing: monitoring cars in the AM and the PM, and greeting parents OUTSIDE. During the day, the can do the other crap you mention.

I agree. And the best principals are those who also make time to be outside at drop off and pick up. They form connections with the kids that way and parents, who can trade a quick word with him or her. It's a great way of enhancing communications and having a finger on the pulse of the school. The slackers and poor performing principals tend to be the ones who hide in their offices, ride their desks and use email as their primary means of communicating.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fraud is fraud. Don't justify fraudsters with transgressions about borrowing someone's car or disobeying the law by not wanting to tag a car appropriately. Principals need to get out from behind their desks and nail this stuff down. Oh, but they all live in Md. too, so why do they care?

Is that what you want your principal spending time doing?

I can see dedicating a staff member to do it, but the principal? Really? He or she doesn't have better things to do at your school? Like observing teachers, reviewing data, talking with students and parents?

Yes, really. That's exactly what they should be doing: monitoring cars in the AM and the PM, and greeting parents OUTSIDE. During the day, the can do the other crap you mention.

I agree. And the best principals are those who also make time to be outside at drop off and pick up. They form connections with the kids that way and parents, who can trade a quick word with him or her. It's a great way of enhancing communications and having a finger on the pulse of the school. The slackers and poor performing principals tend to be the ones who hide in their offices, ride their desks and use email as their primary means of communicating.

Are these posters serious? Our new principal is outside every morning, but she's greeting the parents and students, not patrolling cars with MD license plates.

[Anonymous]

^^^Then she is either blind or intentionally obtuse.

[Anonymous]

^^^Then she is either blind or intentionally obtuse.

Or she's not an asshole, has already reviewed everyone's residence information, as is her job, and realizes, like most sane people, that there are many reasons for someone to be dropping off a kid with MD plates on their car.

But let's also talk about how all these supposed residence cheaters (and YOU) are too damn lazy to park a few blocks from the school and walk your kids in. Do you not have feet?

[Anonymous]

It does make sense, doesn't it? That if someone was actually being a residence cheater, they'd park a block away and walk in?