Indiana's Religious Freedom law

[Anonymous]

Why are they even in the pizza business? Mixing milk and meat violates God's law.

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Anonymous wrote:This is not the place to determine if Christianity prohibits homosexuality or allows discrimination of homosexuals. Thats a religious issue.

However, if someone cites the Bible as a basis for believing that a same-sex marriage is against their religious beliefs and therefore refuses to "participate" in it by baking a cake or whatever, but has no problem baking a cake for interfaith weddings or weddings where one spouse was previously married, etc., then I find it difficult to believe that their motivation is truly their religious beliefs.

Religious, schmeligious. Cite for me where EXACTLY it says in the Bible that a Christian should not do business with someone with different views.

If you can't give me an exact citation then you have no religious grounds to stand on.

Does the Bible prohibit marriage between two men? Or say that marriage is between a man and woman? If so, then it follows that baking cakes or delivering pizza for marriages forbidden in the faith would be wrong.

Or one could just go on and keep extrapolating and try to suggest that the mere mention of two men is against Christianity. Where does it end?

How about it ends with what JESUS ACTUALLY SAYS as opposed to extrapolating it out to the nth degree. And what Jesus *actually* said in the Bible about homosexuality was " "

He said NOTHING.

But what did Jesus say about marriage? Did he say marriage was between a man and a woman? Then homosexual relationships go against this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why are they even in the pizza business? Mixing milk and meat violates God's law.

+1

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Anonymous wrote:This is not the place to determine if Christianity prohibits homosexuality or allows discrimination of homosexuals. Thats a religious issue.

However, if someone cites the Bible as a basis for believing that a same-sex marriage is against their religious beliefs and therefore refuses to "participate" in it by baking a cake or whatever, but has no problem baking a cake for interfaith weddings or weddings where one spouse was previously married, etc., then I find it difficult to believe that their motivation is truly their religious beliefs.

Religious, schmeligious. Cite for me where EXACTLY it says in the Bible that a Christian should not do business with someone with different views.

If you can't give me an exact citation then you have no religious grounds to stand on.

Does the Bible prohibit marriage between two men? Or say that marriage is between a man and woman? If so, then it follows that baking cakes or delivering pizza for marriages forbidden in the faith would be wrong.

Or one could just go on and keep extrapolating and try to suggest that the mere mention of two men is against Christianity. Where does it end?

How about it ends with what JESUS ACTUALLY SAYS as opposed to extrapolating it out to the nth degree. And what Jesus *actually* said in the Bible about homosexuality was " "

He said NOTHING.

But what did Jesus say about marriage? Did he say marriage was between a man and a woman? Then homosexual relationships go against this.

He did not say that homosexual marriage is wrong.
However in that bible verse, he did say that divorce = adultery. Unequivocally. So I wonder whether they refuse to cater remarriages.

[Anonymous]

So far I count three strikes on the pizza parlor:

1. Violates kosher rules of mixing meat and milk
2. Open on the Sabbath
3. Does not refuse to cater remarriages of adulterers.

Now that they have been given nearly a million dollars, I guess we can see whether they heed Jesus' command to give away their newfound wealth.

[Anonymous]

I have not been on this thread for a few hours, so this may have been answered, but was that pizzeria actually asked to cater a gay wedding or did they just decide to tell the world they would not do what they would probably never have been asked to do anyway?

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Anonymous wrote:I have not been on this thread for a few hours, so this may have been answered, but was that pizzeria actually asked to cater a gay wedding or did they just decide to tell the world they would not do what they would probably never have been asked to do anyway?

The latter.

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Anonymous wrote:I have not been on this thread for a few hours, so this may have been answered, but was that pizzeria actually asked to cater a gay wedding or did they just decide to tell the world they would not do what they would probably never have been asked to do anyway?

The "reporter" was targeting businesses that had Easter decorations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So far I count three strikes on the pizza parlor:

1. Violates kosher rules of mixing meat and milk
2. Open on the Sabbath
3. Does not refuse to cater remarriages of adulterers.

Now that they have been given nearly a million dollars, I guess we can see whether they heed Jesus' command to give away their newfound wealth.

The Boy Scouts of America did not include bible study classes or bible recitation or prayer groups either, but the Supreme Court still said they were a religious organization free to reject gays if they so wished. So there you have it. The pizza parlor doesn't have to abide by EVERY verse in the Bible to be deemed a religious organization. BUT - they do need to do more than simply say they're Christian. That's not enough. If they ONLY deliver to Christian themed events, hire only Christians, include Christian themes in their pizza's somehow, etc…that would show they are religious. As far as I'm concerned, they are not a religious organization. I don't support homosexuality but that pizzeria is not a religious organization and can not discriminate.

[Anonymous]

Did you see how much money was raised for the Pizza place on gofundme???

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Anonymous wrote:Did you see how much money was raised for the Pizza place on gofundme???

People are getting pissed off about this activist BS.

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Anonymous wrote:I have not been on this thread for a few hours, so this may have been answered, but was that pizzeria actually asked to cater a gay wedding or did they just decide to tell the world they would not do what they would probably never have been asked to do anyway?

The "reporter" was targeting businesses that had Easter decorations.

...so? They didn't have to answer the questions.

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Anonymous wrote:This is not the place to determine if Christianity prohibits homosexuality or allows discrimination of homosexuals. Thats a religious issue.

However, if someone cites the Bible as a basis for believing that a same-sex marriage is against their religious beliefs and therefore refuses to "participate" in it by baking a cake or whatever, but has no problem baking a cake for interfaith weddings or weddings where one spouse was previously married, etc., then I find it difficult to believe that their motivation is truly their religious beliefs.

Religious, schmeligious. Cite for me where EXACTLY it says in the Bible that a Christian should not do business with someone with different views.

If you can't give me an exact citation then you have no religious grounds to stand on.

Does the Bible prohibit marriage between two men? Or say that marriage is between a man and woman? If so, then it follows that baking cakes or delivering pizza for marriages forbidden in the faith would be wrong.

Or one could just go on and keep extrapolating and try to suggest that the mere mention of two men is against Christianity. Where does it end?

How about it ends with what JESUS ACTUALLY SAYS as opposed to extrapolating it out to the nth degree. And what Jesus *actually* said in the Bible about homosexuality was " "

He said NOTHING.

But what did Jesus say about marriage? Did he say marriage was between a man and a woman? Then homosexual relationships go against this.

He did not say that homosexual marriage is wrong.
However in that bible verse, he did say that divorce = adultery. Unequivocally. So I wonder whether they refuse to cater remarriages.

Jesus doesn't have to say homosexuality was wrong. If he stated what marriage was - between a man and a woman, the corollary of that is that any other union is wrong. Did Jesus also say unions between men and animals is wrong? How about unions between men and children? No, he didn't, but that doesn't mean it's right.

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Anonymous wrote:This is not the place to determine if Christianity prohibits homosexuality or allows discrimination of homosexuals. Thats a religious issue.

However, if someone cites the Bible as a basis for believing that a same-sex marriage is against their religious beliefs and therefore refuses to "participate" in it by baking a cake or whatever, but has no problem baking a cake for interfaith weddings or weddings where one spouse was previously married, etc., then I find it difficult to believe that their motivation is truly their religious beliefs.

Religious, schmeligious. Cite for me where EXACTLY it says in the Bible that a Christian should not do business with someone with different views.

If you can't give me an exact citation then you have no religious grounds to stand on.

Does the Bible prohibit marriage between two men? Or say that marriage is between a man and woman? If so, then it follows that baking cakes or delivering pizza for marriages forbidden in the faith would be wrong.

Or one could just go on and keep extrapolating and try to suggest that the mere mention of two men is against Christianity. Where does it end?

How about it ends with what JESUS ACTUALLY SAYS as opposed to extrapolating it out to the nth degree. And what Jesus *actually* said in the Bible about homosexuality was " "

He said NOTHING.

But what did Jesus say about marriage? Did he say marriage was between a man and a woman? Then homosexual relationships go against this.

He did not say that homosexual marriage is wrong.
However in that bible verse, he did say that divorce = adultery. Unequivocally. So I wonder whether they refuse to cater remarriages.

Jesus doesn't have to say homosexuality was wrong. If he stated what marriage was - between a man and a woman, the corollary of that is that any other union is wrong. Did Jesus also say unions between men and animals is wrong? How about unions between men and children? No, he didn't, but that doesn't mean it's right.

The bible refers frequently to "man" and we assume it means "man or woman". I don't think you can hang his view on homosexuality based on the fact that he referred to the dominant type of relationship. In any case, that was the chapter that he condemned divorce as adultery. That, he was really specific about. Know anyone who remarried?

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Anonymous wrote:This is not the place to determine if Christianity prohibits homosexuality or allows discrimination of homosexuals. Thats a religious issue.

However, if someone cites the Bible as a basis for believing that a same-sex marriage is against their religious beliefs and therefore refuses to "participate" in it by baking a cake or whatever, but has no problem baking a cake for interfaith weddings or weddings where one spouse was previously married, etc., then I find it difficult to believe that their motivation is truly their religious beliefs.

Religious, schmeligious. Cite for me where EXACTLY it says in the Bible that a Christian should not do business with someone with different views.

If you can't give me an exact citation then you have no religious grounds to stand on.

Does the Bible prohibit marriage between two men? Or say that marriage is between a man and woman? If so, then it follows that baking cakes or delivering pizza for marriages forbidden in the faith would be wrong.

Or one could just go on and keep extrapolating and try to suggest that the mere mention of two men is against Christianity. Where does it end?



How about it ends with what JESUS ACTUALLY SAYS as opposed to extrapolating it out to the nth degree. And what Jesus *actually* said in the Bible about homosexuality was " "

He said NOTHING.

But what did Jesus say about marriage? Did he say marriage was between a man and a woman? Then homosexual relationships go against this.

He did not say that homosexual marriage is wrong.
However in that bible verse, he did say that divorce = adultery. Unequivocally. So I wonder whether they refuse to cater remarriages.

Jesus doesn't have to say homosexuality was wrong. If he stated what marriage was - between a man and a woman, the corollary of that is that any other union is wrong. Did Jesus also say unions between men and animals is wrong? How about unions between men and children? No, he didn't, but that doesn't mean it's right.

The bible refers frequently to "man" and we assume it means "man or woman". I don't think you can hang his view on homosexuality based on the fact that he referred to the dominant type of relationship. In any case, that was the chapter that he condemned divorce as adultery. That, he was really specific about. Know anyone who remarried?[/quote
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Yes, sometimes the Bible refers to "man" figuratively and they mean mankind. But when the Bible clearly refers to marriage unions as between "men AND women" there should be no mistaking who the Bible is referring to. It's not figurative; it's intended to be a literal reading.

Secondly, just because people abuse the adultery rule does not nullify Jesus' position on homosexuality.