Asians are suing Harvard and UNC - Chapel Hill for use of quotas

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It used to be that whites used to be overwhelmingly opposed to affirmative action because they thought they were being disadvantaged against AA and hispanics. Now they realize that they're actually being helped by affirmative action because they are taking the spots of asians who are more qualified than them. So now whites are overwhelmingly supportive of affirmative action. How funny. Years ago, there used to be arguments made that it was time to get rid of affirmative action because equality has evolved long enough that all races are at an even playing field. But then I read an essay that said affirmative action will never go away once whites realize that getting rid of it will not help them but will help asians instead. How right he was.

I'd love to see any real data on this. I and everybody else I know either 1. Supports AA because they think it's righting historical wrongs or 2. Wants all race based considerations removed. I've yet to run into a white person who wants AA so they can keep out Asians. Not saying it doesn't exist, but I don't think it's at all common. I'm 100% in support of removing race based AA; if my white child is denied entrance at some school because of that then she should have studied harder.

Studying harder won't make a shred of difference if your kid has crappy teachers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wonder what fraction of the people who do the interviewing of potential students at Harvard/Yale are Asian-Americans? In my field (which is stem), I have strongly noticed interview result in hiring of people that remind the interviewee of themselves when they were young. To get fair admissions for asians, to have people who can easily see their multi-dimensionality, we need to have Asian interviewers and a strong representation of asians on the admissions committee.

Start donating money to schools, then.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Let's wish them rots of ruck with the rawsuit

You should learn how to spell.

PP was trying to be humorous.

You mean PP was trying to sound like an ignorant racist.

well that , too.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let's wish them rots of ruck with the rawsuit

You should learn how to spell.

PP was trying to be humorous.

You mean PP was trying to sound like an ignorant racist.

well that , too.

Lighten up a bit. The joke's a little Johnny Carson style but not mean spirited.

[Anonymous]

Just an innocent laugh. Remember in the Christmas Story film the hilarious "Deck the Halls" scene in the Chinese restaurant?!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just an innocent laugh. Remember in the Christmas Story film the hilarious "Deck the Halls" scene in the Chinese restaurant?!

Mocking Asians is fine just don't mess with blacks or Hispanics? And you wonder why Asians are suing. Asians should file hundreds of more suits and see if that's still funny. The whole let's have some fun at Asian's expense demonstrates why discrmination against Asians in college admissions is still tolerated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder what fraction of the people who do the interviewing of potential students at Harvard/Yale are Asian-Americans? In my field (which is stem), I have strongly noticed interview result in hiring of people that remind the interviewee of themselves when they were young. To get fair admissions for asians, to have people who can easily see their multi-dimensionality, we need to have Asian interviewers and a strong representation of asians on the admissions committee.

Start donating money to schools, then.

I think this is an honest assessment. These schools are not going to stop letting in people who donate to the school, to accommodate those who do not traditionally donate in large numbers.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder what fraction of the people who do the interviewing of potential students at Harvard/Yale are Asian-Americans? In my field (which is stem), I have strongly noticed interview result in hiring of people that remind the interviewee of themselves when they were young. To get fair admissions for asians, to have people who can easily see their multi-dimensionality, we need to have Asian interviewers and a strong representation of asians on the admissions committee.

Start donating money to schools, then.

Another lame excuse to try to justify the discrimination against Asians.
Just google it, the recent major donations to Harvard and Yale are all from Chinese descendants. If I remembered correctly one of is the largest amount donation in school history.
Of course if this excuse fails people will move on to next one to justify their discrimination.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just an innocent laugh. Remember in the Christmas Story film the hilarious "Deck the Halls" scene in the Chinese restaurant?!

Mocking Asians is fine just don't mess with blacks or Hispanics? And you wonder why Asians are suing. Asians should file hundreds of more suits and see if that's still funny. The whole let's have some fun at Asian's expense demonstrates why discrmination against Asians in college admissions is still tolerated.

Well I am AA, and I thought the joke was out of line. Not an innocent laugh at all.

It does seem like a White person made the joke, but yet you felt the need to drag in AA's and Hispanics. Folks mock AA's and Hispanics all the time on DCUM and it is the AA's and Hispanics who speak up in their own defense. It is that speaking up that made it non-PC to crack those types of jokes. People will still crack those jokes if they think they won't be called on it. The person was out of line and you called them on it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder what fraction of the people who do the interviewing of potential students at Harvard/Yale are Asian-Americans? In my field (which is stem), I have strongly noticed interview result in hiring of people that remind the interviewee of themselves when they were young. To get fair admissions for asians, to have people who can easily see their multi-dimensionality, we need to have Asian interviewers and a strong representation of asians on the admissions committee.

Start donating money to schools, then.

Another lame excuse to try to justify the discrimination against Asians.
Just google it, the recent major donations to Harvard and Yale are all from Chinese descendants. If I remembered correctly one of is the largest amount donation in school history.
Of course if this excuse fails people will move on to next one to justify their discrimination.

If the plaintiffs are US residents suing, I don't have a problem with it. If they're overseas Asians (many of whom come from well-connected families in China, Hong Kong, etc. are are trying to buy their way in or are submitting "composite" applications" on behalf of their DS or DD), I say, "enough!" Our universities already have tons of foreign students. Some foreign student representation is good, but it's gotten way out of kilter. U.S. taxpayer funding has built a lot of labs and programs on American college and university campuses, and these institutions have a responsibility to ensure that U.S. citizens get a reciprocally strong share of the student places. American taxpayers should not be spending money to educate the elite of China.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder what fraction of the people who do the interviewing of potential students at Harvard/Yale are Asian-Americans? In my field (which is stem), I have strongly noticed interview result in hiring of people that remind the interviewee of themselves when they were young. To get fair admissions for asians, to have people who can easily see their multi-dimensionality, we need to have Asian interviewers and a strong representation of asians on the admissions committee.

Start donating money to schools, then.

Another lame excuse to try to justify the discrimination against Asians.
Just google it, the recent major donations to Harvard and Yale are all from Chinese descendants. If I remembered correctly one of is the largest amount donation in school history.
Of course if this excuse fails people will move on to next one to justify their discrimination.

If the plaintiffs are US residents suing, I don't have a problem with it. If they're overseas Asians (many of whom come from well-connected families in China, Hong Kong, etc. are are trying to buy their way in or are submitting "composite" applications" on behalf of their DS or DD), I say, "enough!" Our universities already have tons of foreign students. Some foreign student representation is good, but it's gotten way out of kilter. U.S. taxpayer funding has built a lot of labs and programs on American college and university campuses, and these institutions have a responsibility to ensure that U.S. citizens get a reciprocally strong share of the student places. American taxpayers should not be spending money to educate the elite of China.

Note that the title says Asian Americans which answers your question.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder what fraction of the people who do the interviewing of potential students at Harvard/Yale are Asian-Americans? In my field (which is stem), I have strongly noticed interview result in hiring of people that remind the interviewee of themselves when they were young. To get fair admissions for asians, to have people who can easily see their multi-dimensionality, we need to have Asian interviewers and a strong representation of asians on the admissions committee.

Start donating money to schools, then.

Another lame excuse to try to justify the discrimination against Asians.
Just google it, the recent major donations to Harvard and Yale are all from Chinese descendants. If I remembered correctly one of is the largest amount donation in school history.
Of course if this excuse fails people will move on to next one to justify their discrimination.

If the plaintiffs are US residents suing, I don't have a problem with it. If they're overseas Asians (many of whom come from well-connected families in China, Hong Kong, etc. are are trying to buy their way in or are submitting "composite" applications" on behalf of their DS or DD), I say, "enough!" Our universities already have tons of foreign students. Some foreign student representation is good, but it's gotten way out of kilter. U.S. taxpayer funding has built a lot of labs and programs on American college and university campuses, and these institutions have a responsibility to ensure that U.S. citizens get a reciprocally strong share of the student places. American taxpayers should not be spending money to educate the elite of China.

Plaintiffs are Asian Americans or Asians with permanent resident status.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder what fraction of the people who do the interviewing of potential students at Harvard/Yale are Asian-Americans? In my field (which is stem), I have strongly noticed interview result in hiring of people that remind the interviewee of themselves when they were young. To get fair admissions for asians, to have people who can easily see their multi-dimensionality, we need to have Asian interviewers and a strong representation of asians on the admissions committee.

Start donating money to schools, then.

Another lame excuse to try to justify the discrimination against Asians.
Just google it, the recent major donations to Harvard and Yale are all from Chinese descendants. If I remembered correctly one of is the largest amount donation in school history.
Of course if this excuse fails people will move on to next one to justify their discrimination.

Study harder then.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder what fraction of the people who do the interviewing of potential students at Harvard/Yale are Asian-Americans? In my field (which is stem), I have strongly noticed interview result in hiring of people that remind the interviewee of themselves when they were young. To get fair admissions for asians, to have people who can easily see their multi-dimensionality, we need to have Asian interviewers and a strong representation of asians on the admissions committee.

Start donating money to schools, then.

Another lame excuse to try to justify the discrimination against Asians.
Just google it, the recent major donations to Harvard and Yale are all from Chinese descendants. If I remembered correctly one of is the largest amount donation in school history.
Of course if this excuse fails people will move on to next one to justify their discrimination.

Study harder then.

Asians do study hard and have the highest academic performance of all the groups. You should say "study hard" to other groups who are apparently not studying hard and not performing as well as Asian Americans. The issue is Asian Americans are discriminated against in college admissions despite studying hard and excelling not just with GPA and SAT but ECs, volunteer activities, leadership positions, sport, music etc. Racial discrimination is morally wrong and unconstitutional.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder what fraction of the people who do the interviewing of potential students at Harvard/Yale are Asian-Americans? In my field (which is stem), I have strongly noticed interview result in hiring of people that remind the interviewee of themselves when they were young. To get fair admissions for asians, to have people who can easily see their multi-dimensionality, we need to have Asian interviewers and a strong representation of asians on the admissions committee.

Start donating money to schools, then.

Another lame excuse to try to justify the discrimination against Asians.
Just google it, the recent major donations to Harvard and Yale are all from Chinese descendants. If I remembered correctly one of is the largest amount donation in school history.
Of course if this excuse fails people will move on to next one to justify their discrimination.

Study harder then.

Asians do study hard and have the highest academic performance of all the groups. You should say "study hard" to other groups who are apparently not studying hard and not performing as well as Asian Americans. The issue is Asian Americans are discriminated against in college admissions despite studying hard and excelling not just with GPA and SAT but ECs, volunteer activities, leadership positions, sport, music etc. Racial discrimination is morally wrong and unconstitutional.

Check your sarcasm meter.