Taylor's Feb. Rec for Woodward Boundary Study

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Anonymous wrote:Why not push for a better magnet? There is your win-win for the entire region.

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This is the real elephant in the room. It’s the magnets at Woodward. Not the bean counting over FARMS.

I agree. And this is not the first time that point has been brought up on this forum. It is a high FARMS and a meaningless magnet combo that will give Woodward a horrible starting point. Having an important magnet (STEM, IB or humanities) will significantly improve school's chances to succeed.

If they really invest in it, the performing arts program could be an important magnet - like LaGuardia in NYC or Duke Ellington in DC. But they need a better balance between WJ and Woodward. Not that hard.

Taylor has already shown he is only willing to support programs in name only. Have you looked at the “criteria” for these music programs? Just need a C or better. No audition required. No private lessons as part of the program, just dumb musicianship class. Taylor is purposely NOT following the successful model of Duke Ellington. He doesn’t want a full on art school. He wants a regular school with a handful of music kids so can dent allocations for music teachers at the other 5 schools ij the region.

These programs are a smokescreen for provided less to students, not more.

Expecting kids to take private lessons is unreasonable given the cost. It would be nice to have a true arts school but its not going to happen. Most kids who are into music do outside programs. The music program really comes down to the teacher and students vs. calling it a magnet or not. Some schools have top music programs and others say they do and don't.

You don’t understand how music magnets work. The kids are given private lessons during the school day by experts on their instrument. Again, somebody please look at what’s available at Duke Ellington just down the road! This is standard for any arts high school in the US. The day is longer, like Blair, to include this. MCPS can’t even get separate band and orchestra teachers at every high school let alone experts on each instrument.

Virginia has also good examples for MCPS to look at such as their Governor’s School for the Arts. None of these kids are taking CTE courses in finance or a bogus musicianship class. They are getting prepared to win auditions

Duke Ellington is not giving private individual lessons to everyone. Also the entire school is focused on arts--it's not a program within a school. And the sacrifice for that is that the "regular" classes like English and math are awful.

They have instrumental technique classes that are required each year. Like a group lesson or sectional with a teacher that’s an expert on that instrument.

How is the MCPS Music program that requires students to finish WL in MS and do health, PE, and the tech credit online or in the summer any better? It’s not worth it.

Any kid in MCYO or PVYO sees that this is just a program in name only. A joke!

MCYO and PVYO kids generally do tech in MS if offered or they do both health and PE in summer school. MCYO requires private lessons and school orchestra so it's not an option not to take orchestra all four years. PVYO is much more relaxed.

How do you do PE in summer school?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:More people selected Option B than any other option.

3490 of 6462 responses selected B.
998 of the 3490 selected only B.

Taylor gave the people what they want.

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Just catching up on this thread.

The Farmland/Luxmanor crew worried about their property values only because their kids will be going to a high school where 30% of the kids are poor or may not come from a native English home. They view 20% as acceptable by drawing an arbitrary line. There are no published academic studies that reflect that standard. None of the MCPS options resulted in 20% Farms at Woodward and WJ.

BOE should approve the recommendation and focus on things that matter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:More people selected Option B than any other option.

3490 of 6462 responses selected B.
998 of the 3490 selected only B.

Taylor gave the people what they want.

+1

Just catching up on this thread.

The Farmland/Luxmanor crew worried about their property values only because their kids will be going to a high school where 30% of the kids are poor or may not come from a native English home. They view 20% as acceptable by drawing an arbitrary line. There are no published academic studies that reflect that standard. None of the MCPS options resulted in 20% Farms at Woodward and WJ.

BOE should approve the recommendation and focus on things that matter.

Sure. Why school they want to be a part of socially engineered school boundaries? Tell yourself whatever, but school peers and cohort matter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:More people selected Option B than any other option.

3490 of 6462 responses selected B.
998 of the 3490 selected only B.

Taylor gave the people what they want.

+1

Just catching up on this thread.

The Farmland/Luxmanor crew worried about their property values only because their kids will be going to a high school where 30% of the kids are poor or may not come from a native English home. They view 20% as acceptable by drawing an arbitrary line. There are no published academic studies that reflect that standard. None of the MCPS options resulted in 20% Farms at Woodward and WJ.

BOE should approve the recommendation and focus on things that matter.

Sure. Why school they want to be a part of socially engineered school boundaries? Tell yourself whatever, but school peers and cohort matter.

I’m no imbecile … this reply is incoherent.

[Anonymous]

The Farmland/Luxmanor crew worried about their property values only because their kids will be going to a high school where 30% of the kids are poor or may not come from a native English home. They view 20% as acceptable by drawing an arbitrary line. There are no published academic studies that reflect that standard. None of the MCPS options resulted in 20% Farms at Woodward and WJ.

BOE should approve the recommendation and focus on things that matter.

Yeah, only Farmland/Luxmanor families care about property values. You, on the other hand, care what is right. Please. WJ-zoned property owners are already on the real estate forum discussing and celebrating how their property value will jump as a result of the recommendation.

All seven options were to leave Woodward with higher FARMS than WJ. It is to be expected since NBMS (closer to WJ) has lower FARMS than Tilden (closer to Woodward). But Taylor made this much worse - he picked the worst option from the FARMS divide point of view and made it even deeper. He added two ES with high FARMS to Woodward while leaving WJ with mostly NBMS and only at 77% capacity. That is why Farmland/Luxmanor families are upset and not because some arbitrary FARMS line.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:More people selected Option B than any other option.

3490 of 6462 responses selected B.
998 of the 3490 selected only B.

Taylor gave the people what they want.

+1

Just catching up on this thread.

The Farmland/Luxmanor crew worried about their property values only because their kids will be going to a high school where 30% of the kids are poor or may not come from a native English home. They view 20% as acceptable by drawing an arbitrary line. There are no published academic studies that reflect that standard. None of the MCPS options resulted in 20% Farms at Woodward and WJ.

BOE should approve the recommendation and focus on things that matter.

Sure. Why school they want to be a part of socially engineered school boundaries? Tell yourself whatever, but school peers and cohort matter.

I’m no imbecile … this reply is incoherent.

You are an imbecile if you think that people don't see through your (let's keep WJ as low FARMS as possible so my property value jumps) BS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Farmland/Luxmanor crew worried about their property values only because their kids will be going to a high school where 30% of the kids are poor or may not come from a native English home. They view 20% as acceptable by drawing an arbitrary line. There are no published academic studies that reflect that standard. None of the MCPS options resulted in 20% Farms at Woodward and WJ.

BOE should approve the recommendation and focus on things that matter.

Yeah, only Farmland/Luxmanor families care about property values. You, on the other hand, care what is right. Please. WJ-zoned property owners are already on the real estate forum discussing and celebrating how their property value will jump as a result of the recommendation.

All seven options were to leave Woodward with higher FARMS than WJ. It is to be expected since NBMS (closer to WJ) has lower FARMS than Tilden (closer to Woodward). But Taylor made this much worse - he picked the worst option from the FARMS divide point of view and made it even deeper. He added two ES with high FARMS to Woodward while leaving WJ with mostly NBMS and only at 77% capacity. That is why Farmland/Luxmanor families are upset and not because some arbitrary FARMS line.

The Delta would be about 3% less FARMS at Woodward. Not worth the change.org petition

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Farmland/Luxmanor crew worried about their property values only because their kids will be going to a high school where 30% of the kids are poor or may not come from a native English home. They view 20% as acceptable by drawing an arbitrary line. There are no published academic studies that reflect that standard. None of the MCPS options resulted in 20% Farms at Woodward and WJ.

BOE should approve the recommendation and focus on things that matter.

Yeah, only Farmland/Luxmanor families care about property values. You, on the other hand, care what is right. Please. WJ-zoned property owners are already on the real estate forum discussing and celebrating how their property value will jump as a result of the recommendation.

All seven options were to leave Woodward with higher FARMS than WJ. It is to be expected since NBMS (closer to WJ) has lower FARMS than Tilden (closer to Woodward). But Taylor made this much worse - he picked the worst option from the FARMS divide point of view and made it even deeper. He added two ES with high FARMS to Woodward while leaving WJ with mostly NBMS and only at 77% capacity. That is why Farmland/Luxmanor families are upset and not because some arbitrary FARMS line.

Nah, the Superintendent solved for that capacity issue. The Farmland and Luxmanor mommy and daddy crew can apply to WJ magnets. And all schools are under capacity. Not compelling. These ideas do not change the FARMs needle.

Just have your realtor advertise the fashion design magnet and your house will fly off the shelf.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:More people selected Option B than any other option.

3490 of 6462 responses selected B.
998 of the 3490 selected only B.

Taylor gave the people what they want.

+1

Just catching up on this thread.

The Farmland/Luxmanor crew worried about their property values only because their kids will be going to a high school where 30% of the kids are poor or may not come from a native English home. They view 20% as acceptable by drawing an arbitrary line. There are no published academic studies that reflect that standard. None of the MCPS options resulted in 20% Farms at Woodward and WJ.

BOE should approve the recommendation and focus on things that matter.

Sure. Why school they want to be a part of socially engineered school boundaries? Tell yourself whatever, but school peers and cohort matter.

I’m no imbecile … this reply is incoherent.

You are an imbecile if you think that people don't see through your (let's keep WJ as low FARMS as possible so my property value jumps) BS.

You mean maintain the status quo? Good luck with the uphill battle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Farmland/Luxmanor crew worried about their property values only because their kids will be going to a high school where 30% of the kids are poor or may not come from a native English home. They view 20% as acceptable by drawing an arbitrary line. There are no published academic studies that reflect that standard. None of the MCPS options resulted in 20% Farms at Woodward and WJ.

BOE should approve the recommendation and focus on things that matter.

Yeah, only Farmland/Luxmanor families care about property values. You, on the other hand, care what is right. Please. WJ-zoned property owners are already on the real estate forum discussing and celebrating how their property value will jump as a result of the recommendation.

All seven options were to leave Woodward with higher FARMS than WJ. It is to be expected since NBMS (closer to WJ) has lower FARMS than Tilden (closer to Woodward). But Taylor made this much worse - he picked the worst option from the FARMS divide point of view and made it even deeper. He added two ES with high FARMS to Woodward while leaving WJ with mostly NBMS and only at 77% capacity. That is why Farmland/Luxmanor families are upset and not because some arbitrary FARMS line.

No he only added 1 school…Wheaton woods. VM was in the option B for Woodward already.

Woodward was never supposed to be Tilden High. Sorry guys. It was going to add DCC. He solved the Wheaton capacity issues with the Wheaton Woods.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The Farmland/Luxmanor crew worried about their property values only because their kids will be going to a high school where 30% of the kids are poor or may not come from a native English home. They view 20% as acceptable by drawing an arbitrary line. There are no published academic studies that reflect that standard. None of the MCPS options resulted in 20% Farms at Woodward and WJ.

BOE should approve the recommendation and focus on things that matter.

Yeah, only Farmland/Luxmanor families care about property values. You, on the other hand, care what is right. Please. WJ-zoned property owners are already on the real estate forum discussing and celebrating how their property value will jump as a result of the recommendation.

All seven options were to leave Woodward with higher FARMS than WJ. It is to be expected since NBMS (closer to WJ) has lower FARMS than Tilden (closer to Woodward). But Taylor made this much worse - he picked the worst option from the FARMS divide point of view and made it even deeper. He added two ES with high FARMS to Woodward while leaving WJ with mostly NBMS and only at 77% capacity. That is why Farmland/Luxmanor families are upset and not because some arbitrary FARMS line.

Nah, the Superintendent solved for that capacity issue. The Farmland and Luxmanor mommy and daddy crew can apply to WJ magnets. And all schools are under capacity. Not compelling. These ideas do not change the FARMs needle.

Just have your realtor advertise the fashion design magnet and your house will fly off the shelf.

Farmland and Luxmanor families will do what they deem necessary. They certainly won't rely on your assessment of what is compelling. Your motives are clear.

And don't overthink the magnet implications, it may be too complicated for you.

[Anonymous]

Woodward was never supposed to be Tilden High. Sorry guys. It was going to add DCC. He solved the Wheaton capacity issues with the Wheaton Woods.

And WJ was never supposed to be the new Walt Whitman and yet, that is what you got, and now you are working here overtime to convince everybody that this is a wonderful recommendation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Woodward was never supposed to be Tilden High. Sorry guys. It was going to add DCC. He solved the Wheaton capacity issues with the Wheaton Woods.

And WJ was never supposed to be the new Walt Whitman and yet, that is what you got, and now you are working here overtime to convince everybody that this is a wonderful recommendation.

It wasn’t? They need some high end homes to fund the rest of the region. It just sucks it won’t be yours and it’ll be mine

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Woodward was never supposed to be Tilden High. Sorry guys. It was going to add DCC. He solved the Wheaton capacity issues with the Wheaton Woods.

And WJ was never supposed to be the new Walt Whitman and yet, that is what you got, and now you are working here overtime to convince everybody that this is a wonderful recommendation.

Convincing DCUM is not needed. It’s already there recommendation. And the survey data indicated it had the consensus support. Sorry you lost.

[Anonymous]

Convincing DCUM is not needed. It’s already there recommendation. And the survey data indicated it had the consensus support. Sorry you lost.

Even more, posting on DCUM to influence MCPS decisions is a complete waste of time. I only jumped in here to expose you as a property value obsessed phony who started this whole mini exchange by accusing Farmland and Luxmanor families (people who actually have kids and care about school options going forward) of the same. Mission accomplished.