Wed no school or 2hr delay?

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Anonymous wrote:State of Maryland is opening late tomorrow and liberal leave is allowed in all countries and Baltimore City. Seems conditions are not good anywhere.

So other institutions are opening tomorrow. MCPS should be able to get their act together to open on Wednesday, probably with a delay.

No, schools are typically a full day (at least) behind everyone else. And everyone else includes the liberal leave people not coming in tomorrow.

Still not plowed at all here in our SS neighborhood!

They could definitely open child care tomorrow and certainly on Wednesday if they wanted to. They just don't want to because they dgaf about child care.

I don’t know about tomorrow, and I don’t know if the parking lots near us are cleared (questionable given the rest of our neighborhood). But I agree that reopening child care should be a priority.

The closures/delays are self-perpetuating. MCPS didn't bother trying to prepare schools today because they already closed tomorrow. So now if things don't go smoothly tomorrow, they'll need to close Wednesday, despite it being entirely avoidable.

Wednesday will be closed. I hope they let childcare open. I am skeptical.

If Taylor has building services work tomorrow, a delayed opening on Wednesday is completely possible.

I guess anything is possible, but I’ve never seen a district in this area open in these conditions and the county isn’t even projecting having all residential streets passed through at least once until tomorrow afternoon.

Even if they don't get to all neighborhoods until tomorrow afternoon, that still means Wednesday should be fine.

They’re saying they’ll get to all neighborhoods at least once, which typically is insufficient as a back to school metric.

It's absolutely sufficient. At least, it should be.

I don't understand why you're so willing to accept incompetence in decision-making.

I liked snow days as a kid and my kids like them now, so I’ll admit that’s how I lean. I do hope they open childcare for people who need it. But I also know that plowing side streets only once when it’s this icy can lead to some pretty dangerous conditions. We tend to have a higher bar for student safety than we do for other businesses opening. I’m okay with that.

I don't get it- what do you think plowing another time accomplishes? We haven't been getting more snow.

One pass doesn’t usually mean totally clearing the road.

It certainly makes it safe to drive on. Isn't that the point?

Probably if you have a decent car and don’t live on a hill and depending on ice. Again, higher standard usually for schools and students.

Which is what?

Closing doesn't help bad drivers. They'll be bad drivers every other day, too. And they're more likely to kill themselves and others when they're driving 50+mph on a snowless day.

It keeps people off the road so plows and emergency crews can get in. Many peole are driving sedans that should not be in this weather.

You're an idiot. Sedans (fwd) do fine in the snow. Learn to drive.

Close in Bethesda poster here. My kid had a friend over this afternoon and the mom decided to drive the 6 blocks in the neighborhood instead of walk. Her sedan got stuck and they had to abandon it and walk anyway and then she had to get help digging the car out.

Maybe the plows will be through tonight or tomorrow but if not, the buses sure aren’t coming.

And sometimes people crash their cars when they're not good drivers. That's not unique to snow.

Bethesda people are the worst. They can't imagine a world where people aren't as rich as they are.

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Anonymous wrote:Rec centers are open tomorrow. They can definitely open child care by Wednesday

Are you volunteering to work at the child care centers? Many of the workers are paid minimum wage and may not be able to get there.

Let the providers decide. You don't know any of these workers and are pretending you can speak for them which is completely gross and disgusting.

Many workers don't get a choice. Clearly you've never worked in child care. Why don't you offer to go pick them up and drive them home if you think its so safe. Your entitlement to risk others' lives is gross and disgusting. You can find another family and rotate child care or find a way to make it work.

You're the one who doesn't want to give them a choice.

Not only not give them a choice, but talk about how little they get paid and then insist that they miss another day of work. Absolutely ghoulish.

Are you offering to drive them? How do they get there? You think they are driving fancy 4wd on minimum wage or can afford uber?

Are you offering to pay them for their missed days of work? No. You're just being sanctimonious online pretending you care while you take food out of their mouths.

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Anonymous wrote:If the school is closed then one of the parents just has to take a day off.

You people complain about EVERYTHING.

I'm glad that your family can easily absorb having a parent take 3 to 5 days off work in a row, without pay for many of us (myself included.). Maybe realize we're not all as lucky as you are and have a little compassion?

We will be unpaid too. I'd rather my spouse be alive than risk driving in this. We were unpaid during the shutdown as well. You think you are the only one. My spouse gets zero PTO. We plan our finances around it. Why don't you?

"In this"? The roads look near-perfect near us. If they're unsafe near you then you shouldn't drive. It's that simple.

And, you think your child care workers streets are fully plowed to the center/school? Think again. You think the public buses can get everywhere? Think again. Get the number of workers and offer to Uber or drive them back and forth to your house, and pay well. Problem solved. What do you do that's so important that you don't have back up child care?

You seem very dense so I will explain it slowly. If there are schools where the school lot is plowed and there are enough staff with safe routes to the school for the program to operate, they should be allowed to open. If the school is not safe and/or the there aren't enough staff who can safely get there, those programs should close MCPS should not forbid all programs to open just because there are a few that are unsafe-- the unsafe ones should stay closed and the safe ones should open. It's very simple. What are you not understanding?

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Anonymous wrote:If the school is closed then one of the parents just has to take a day off.

You people complain about EVERYTHING.

I'm glad that your family can easily absorb having a parent take 3 to 5 days off work in a row, without pay for many of us (myself included.). Maybe realize we're not all as lucky as you are and have a little compassion?

We will be unpaid too. I'd rather my spouse be alive than risk driving in this. We were unpaid during the shutdown as well. You think you are the only one. My spouse gets zero PTO. We plan our finances around it. Why don't you?

"In this"? The roads look near-perfect near us. If they're unsafe near you then you shouldn't drive. It's that simple.

And, you think your child care workers streets are fully plowed to the center/school? Think again. You think the public buses can get everywhere? Think again. Get the number of workers and offer to Uber or drive them back and forth to your house, and pay well. Problem solved. What do you do that's so important that you don't have back up child care?

You seem very dense so I will explain it slowly. If there are schools where the school lot is plowed and there are enough staff with safe routes to the school for the program to operate, they should be allowed to open. If the school is not safe and/or the there aren't enough staff who can safely get there, those programs should and of course will be closed regardless. MCPS should not forbid all programs to open just because there are a few that are unsafe-- the unsafe ones should stay closed and the safe ones should open. It's very simple. What are you not understanding?[

(Reposted to fix typo/missing language.)

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Anonymous wrote:State of Maryland is opening late tomorrow and liberal leave is allowed in all countries and Baltimore City. Seems conditions are not good anywhere.

So other institutions are opening tomorrow. MCPS should be able to get their act together to open on Wednesday, probably with a delay.

No, schools are typically a full day (at least) behind everyone else. And everyone else includes the liberal leave people not coming in tomorrow.

Still not plowed at all here in our SS neighborhood!

They could definitely open child care tomorrow and certainly on Wednesday if they wanted to. They just don't want to because they dgaf about child care.

I don’t know about tomorrow, and I don’t know if the parking lots near us are cleared (questionable given the rest of our neighborhood). But I agree that reopening child care should be a priority.

The closures/delays are self-perpetuating. MCPS didn't bother trying to prepare schools today because they already closed tomorrow. So now if things don't go smoothly tomorrow, they'll need to close Wednesday, despite it being entirely avoidable.

Wednesday will be closed. I hope they let childcare open. I am skeptical.

If Taylor has building services work tomorrow, a delayed opening on Wednesday is completely possible.

I guess anything is possible, but I’ve never seen a district in this area open in these conditions and the county isn’t even projecting having all residential streets passed through at least once until tomorrow afternoon.

Even if they don't get to all neighborhoods until tomorrow afternoon, that still means Wednesday should be fine.

They’re saying they’ll get to all neighborhoods at least once, which typically is insufficient as a back to school metric.

It's absolutely sufficient. At least, it should be.

I don't understand why you're so willing to accept incompetence in decision-making.

I liked snow days as a kid and my kids like them now, so I’ll admit that’s how I lean. I do hope they open childcare for people who need it. But I also know that plowing side streets only once when it’s this icy can lead to some pretty dangerous conditions. We tend to have a higher bar for student safety than we do for other businesses opening. I’m okay with that.

I don't get it- what do you think plowing another time accomplishes? We haven't been getting more snow.

One pass doesn’t usually mean totally clearing the road.

It certainly makes it safe to drive on. Isn't that the point?

Probably if you have a decent car and don’t live on a hill and depending on ice. Again, higher standard usually for schools and students.

Which is what?

Closing doesn't help bad drivers. They'll be bad drivers every other day, too. And they're more likely to kill themselves and others when they're driving 50+mph on a snowless day.

It keeps people off the road so plows and emergency crews can get in. Many peole are driving sedans that should not be in this weather.

You're an idiot. Sedans (fwd) do fine in the snow. Learn to drive.

Close in Bethesda poster here. My kid had a friend over this afternoon and the mom decided to drive the 6 blocks in the neighborhood instead of walk. Her sedan got stuck and they had to abandon it and walk anyway and then she had to get help digging the car out.

Maybe the plows will be through tonight or tomorrow but if not, the buses sure aren’t coming.

And sometimes people crash their cars when they're not good drivers. That's not unique to snow.

Bethesda people are the worst. They can't imagine a world where people aren't as rich as they are.

You seem to be the one having a hard time imagining that not everyone’s neighborhood looks like yours. MCPS is all about equity and they aren’t going to open if they can’t get school buses to all routes. Not my decision or yours but that’s how it will be.

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Just spent the last 90 minutes shoveling around my high school i work at. We are short like 2 building services workers so I felt it wouldn’t be cool to make a short crew work extra hard. Would have done more but i am fat and heard Jesus call me home a few times.

Will return tomorrow

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Anonymous wrote:I think no school all week.

Doug called it!

yup

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Anonymous wrote:Where are you guys getting information on what percentage of your service area has been plowed from?

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/snow/

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Anonymous wrote:Just spent the last 90 minutes shoveling around my high school i work at. We are short like 2 building services workers so I felt it wouldn’t be cool to make a short crew work extra hard. Would have done more but i am fat and heard Jesus call me home a few times.

Will return tomorrow

You are awesome, PP. Thank you.

(Does MCPS not have "floaters" to send to schools who are short on building service workers, though? Either actual maintenance stuff or central office staff filling in? That's nuts.)

Any guesses how likely it is to be finished up tomorrow at your school?

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Anonymous wrote:Just spent the last 90 minutes shoveling around my high school i work at. We are short like 2 building services workers so I felt it wouldn’t be cool to make a short crew work extra hard. Would have done more but i am fat and heard Jesus call me home a few times.

Will return tomorrow

You are awesome, PP. Thank you.

(Does MCPS not have "floaters" to send to schools who are short on building service workers, though? Either actual maintenance stuff or central office staff filling in? That's nuts.)

Any guesses how likely it is to be finished up tomorrow at your school?

Seeing how i was only able to do the perimeter sidewalks because my truck wasn’t able to get into the parking lots, not expecting much to be done any time soon

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Anonymous wrote:State of Maryland is opening late tomorrow and liberal leave is allowed in all countries and Baltimore City. Seems conditions are not good anywhere.

So other institutions are opening tomorrow. MCPS should be able to get their act together to open on Wednesday, probably with a delay.

No, schools are typically a full day (at least) behind everyone else. And everyone else includes the liberal leave people not coming in tomorrow.

Still not plowed at all here in our SS neighborhood!

They could definitely open child care tomorrow and certainly on Wednesday if they wanted to. They just don't want to because they dgaf about child care.

I don’t know about tomorrow, and I don’t know if the parking lots near us are cleared (questionable given the rest of our neighborhood). But I agree that reopening child care should be a priority.

The closures/delays are self-perpetuating. MCPS didn't bother trying to prepare schools today because they already closed tomorrow. So now if things don't go smoothly tomorrow, they'll need to close Wednesday, despite it being entirely avoidable.

Wednesday will be closed. I hope they let childcare open. I am skeptical.

If Taylor has building services work tomorrow, a delayed opening on Wednesday is completely possible.

I guess anything is possible, but I’ve never seen a district in this area open in these conditions and the county isn’t even projecting having all residential streets passed through at least once until tomorrow afternoon.

Even if they don't get to all neighborhoods until tomorrow afternoon, that still means Wednesday should be fine.

They’re saying they’ll get to all neighborhoods at least once, which typically is insufficient as a back to school metric.

It's absolutely sufficient. At least, it should be.

I don't understand why you're so willing to accept incompetence in decision-making.

I liked snow days as a kid and my kids like them now, so I’ll admit that’s how I lean. I do hope they open childcare for people who need it. But I also know that plowing side streets only once when it’s this icy can lead to some pretty dangerous conditions. We tend to have a higher bar for student safety than we do for other businesses opening. I’m okay with that.

I don't get it- what do you think plowing another time accomplishes? We haven't been getting more snow.

One pass doesn’t usually mean totally clearing the road.

It certainly makes it safe to drive on. Isn't that the point?

Probably if you have a decent car and don’t live on a hill and depending on ice. Again, higher standard usually for schools and students.

Which is what?

Closing doesn't help bad drivers. They'll be bad drivers every other day, too. And they're more likely to kill themselves and others when they're driving 50+mph on a snowless day.

It keeps people off the road so plows and emergency crews can get in. Many peole are driving sedans that should not be in this weather.

You're an idiot. Sedans (fwd) do fine in the snow. Learn to drive.

Close in Bethesda poster here. My kid had a friend over this afternoon and the mom decided to drive the 6 blocks in the neighborhood instead of walk. Her sedan got stuck and they had to abandon it and walk anyway and then she had to get help digging the car out.

Maybe the plows will be through tonight or tomorrow but if not, the buses sure aren’t coming.

And sometimes people crash their cars when they're not good drivers. That's not unique to snow.

Bethesda people are the worst. They can't imagine a world where people aren't as rich as they are.

You seem to be the one having a hard time imagining that not everyone’s neighborhood looks like yours. MCPS is all about equity and they aren’t going to open if they can’t get school buses to all routes. Not my decision or yours but that’s how it will be.

Equity isn't catering to the anxieties of Bethesda SAHMs.

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Anonymous wrote:State of Maryland is opening late tomorrow and liberal leave is allowed in all countries and Baltimore City. Seems conditions are not good anywhere.

So other institutions are opening tomorrow. MCPS should be able to get their act together to open on Wednesday, probably with a delay.

No, schools are typically a full day (at least) behind everyone else. And everyone else includes the liberal leave people not coming in tomorrow.

Still not plowed at all here in our SS neighborhood!

They could definitely open child care tomorrow and certainly on Wednesday if they wanted to. They just don't want to because they dgaf about child care.

I don’t know about tomorrow, and I don’t know if the parking lots near us are cleared (questionable given the rest of our neighborhood). But I agree that reopening child care should be a priority.

The closures/delays are self-perpetuating. MCPS didn't bother trying to prepare schools today because they already closed tomorrow. So now if things don't go smoothly tomorrow, they'll need to close Wednesday, despite it being entirely avoidable.

Wednesday will be closed. I hope they let childcare open. I am skeptical.

If Taylor has building services work tomorrow, a delayed opening on Wednesday is completely possible.

I guess anything is possible, but I’ve never seen a district in this area open in these conditions and the county isn’t even projecting having all residential streets passed through at least once until tomorrow afternoon.

Even if they don't get to all neighborhoods until tomorrow afternoon, that still means Wednesday should be fine.

They’re saying they’ll get to all neighborhoods at least once, which typically is insufficient as a back to school metric.

It's absolutely sufficient. At least, it should be.

I don't understand why you're so willing to accept incompetence in decision-making.

I liked snow days as a kid and my kids like them now, so I’ll admit that’s how I lean. I do hope they open childcare for people who need it. But I also know that plowing side streets only once when it’s this icy can lead to some pretty dangerous conditions. We tend to have a higher bar for student safety than we do for other businesses opening. I’m okay with that.

I don't get it- what do you think plowing another time accomplishes? We haven't been getting more snow.

One pass doesn’t usually mean totally clearing the road.

It certainly makes it safe to drive on. Isn't that the point?

Probably if you have a decent car and don’t live on a hill and depending on ice. Again, higher standard usually for schools and students.

Which is what?

Closing doesn't help bad drivers. They'll be bad drivers every other day, too. And they're more likely to kill themselves and others when they're driving 50+mph on a snowless day.

It keeps people off the road so plows and emergency crews can get in. Many peole are driving sedans that should not be in this weather.

You're an idiot. Sedans (fwd) do fine in the snow. Learn to drive.

Close in Bethesda poster here. My kid had a friend over this afternoon and the mom decided to drive the 6 blocks in the neighborhood instead of walk. Her sedan got stuck and they had to abandon it and walk anyway and then she had to get help digging the car out.

Maybe the plows will be through tonight or tomorrow but if not, the buses sure aren’t coming.

And sometimes people crash their cars when they're not good drivers. That's not unique to snow.

Bethesda people are the worst. They can't imagine a world where people aren't as rich as they are.

You seem to be the one having a hard time imagining that not everyone’s neighborhood looks like yours. MCPS is all about equity and they aren’t going to open if they can’t get school buses to all routes. Not my decision or yours but that’s how it will be.

Equity isn't catering to the anxieties of Bethesda SAHMs.

+1 it's not

Also MCPS doesn't understand the definition of equity and Thomas Taylor refuses to look it up.

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Anonymous wrote:Just spent the last 90 minutes shoveling around my high school i work at. We are short like 2 building services workers so I felt it wouldn’t be cool to make a short crew work extra hard. Would have done more but i am fat and heard Jesus call me home a few times.

Will return tomorrow

I know you're joking, but this kind of snow makes shoveling so dangerous on the body. MCPS is posting pics on Facebook making it look so fun and exciting, but I really hope the building service workers are taking care of themselves and taking breaks. I feel horrible for the women shoveling in jeans. They should have proper winter gear, provided by MCPS.

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Anonymous wrote:Just spent the last 90 minutes shoveling around my high school i work at. We are short like 2 building services workers so I felt it wouldn’t be cool to make a short crew work extra hard. Would have done more but i am fat and heard Jesus call me home a few times.

Will return tomorrow

I know you're joking, but this kind of snow makes shoveling so dangerous on the body. MCPS is posting pics on Facebook making it look so fun and exciting, but I really hope the building service workers are taking care of themselves and taking breaks. I feel horrible for the women shoveling in jeans. They should have proper winter gear, provided by MCPS.

I wouldn't want to be shoveling in more the jeans. It wasn't that cold today. You're going to get hot quickly if you're working.

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Anonymous wrote:Closed for the week. 50/50 new system comes through on Saturday. Make your plans now.

No, there's practically no chance of a Saturday event. It's not coming together.

Wrong. There’s a 50% chance so there is, in fact, a chance.

Sigh. Can't argue with stupid, I guess. The 50% number is wrong. This is what I'm trying to tell you.

hold my beer