Tufts student detained by ICE

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Rubin’s own state department and consulate officials is doing a huge sweep of social media.


https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/hundreds-of-international-students-are-waking-up-to-an-email-asking-them-to-self-deport-for-campus-activism-or-even-sharing-posts-on-social-media/amp_articleshow/119679695.cms

The article references the sharing or posting of ”anti-national” posts, but it doesn’t specify anti which nation. Do they mean Israel or the US?

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Anonymous wrote:She has no future in the U.S. Even if immigration court stops her deportation, she has no pathway to legal status here. She will never get a H1B visa, she will never get a green card let alone citizenship. If her deportation is stopped she will live as a person in limbo in the U.S. if that’s her choice instead of returning to Turkey each to their own.

How is this irrelevant? She was a PhD student or postdoctoral student trying to get an education she can’t get in her home country.
That might be an unfamiliar concept to you - that someone would emigrate just to get a better education and not to try to become a US citizen.

You can’t be a phd student in Turkey? If you are trying to emigrate to get a better education keep your head down and not create waves in your host country. That’s not an unfamiliar concept either. Her time in the US is at an end. If her deportation is stopped she can’t study, get a job, do anything here. Cut her losses and go back to her own country, which somehow I bet she doesn’t want to do.

The higher the level of education, the more specialized it becomes. Obtaining a PhD means 4-5 years of focus and research on a topic that her supervisor would be an expert on. That expertise was probably not available in her home country because research dollars can be limited or the academic culture overall focuses more on teaching and not research.

I don’t see why she wouldn’t continue her studies at Tufts once she’s released. “Her time in the US is at the end”. Why so dramatic? That, and your aggressive tone, gives the impression that you’re actually a small, irrelevant, person in real life who needs to pump himself (or herself) up with bold dramatic statements like “Her time in the US is at the end”. (Quake, shiver…)

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The individuals callously indifferent or even gleeful over her abduction would squeal in outrage if their people were being targeted and spirited to a domestic blacksite for indeterminate periods of time. And they know it. But they live and breathe on a perverse belief that they are better than …

No, they just behave better than... Stir the pot, sometimes the pot gets sick of it.

If you don’t like the U.S. Constitution, you can leave the country. Most of us believe in due process and first amendment rights. We will stay and fight.

Good luck "fighting" against lawful activity you just don't like. Non-citizens run their mouths, demonstrate, and otherwise agitate against this country or its allies at their own risk. They have no absolute rights to residence. They can either conduct themselves prudently, or not. There may be consequences, entirely legal consequences, for annoying the host government.

DP

Who gives AF about criticism of our so-called “allies”? Since when does that cross a line of any consequence?

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Anonymous wrote:She has no future in the U.S. Even if immigration court stops her deportation, she has no pathway to legal status here. She will never get a H1B visa, she will never get a green card let alone citizenship. If her deportation is stopped she will live as a person in limbo in the U.S. if that’s her choice instead of returning to Turkey each to their own.

How is this irrelevant? She was a PhD student or postdoctoral student trying to get an education she can’t get in her home country.
That might be an unfamiliar concept to you - that someone would emigrate just to get a better education and not to try to become a US citizen.

You can’t be a phd student in Turkey? If you are trying to emigrate to get a better education keep your head down and not create waves in your host country. That’s not an unfamiliar concept either. Her time in the US is at an end. If her deportation is stopped she can’t study, get a job, do anything here. Cut her losses and go back to her own country, which somehow I bet she doesn’t want to do.

The higher the level of education, the more specialized it becomes. Obtaining a PhD means 4-5 years of focus and research on a topic that her supervisor would be an expert on. That expertise was probably not available in her home country because research dollars can be limited or the academic culture overall focuses more on teaching and not research.

I don’t see why she wouldn’t continue her studies at Tufts once she’s released. “Her time in the US is at the end”. Why so dramatic? That, and your aggressive tone, gives the impression that you’re actually a small, irrelevant, person in real life who needs to pump himself (or herself) up with bold dramatic statements like “Her time in the US is at the end”. (Quake, shiver…)

DP

The individuals callously indifferent or even gleeful over her abduction would squeal in outrage if their people were being targeted and spirited to a domestic blacksite for indeterminate periods of time. And they know it. But they live and breathe on a perverse belief that they are better than …

No, they just behave better than... Stir the pot, sometimes the pot gets sick of it.

If you don’t like the U.S. Constitution, you can leave the country. Most of us believe in due process and first amendment rights. We will stay and fight.

Good luck "fighting" against lawful activity you just don't like. Non-citizens run their mouths, demonstrate, and otherwise agitate against this country or its allies at their own risk. They have no absolute rights to residence. They can either conduct themselves prudently, or not. There may be consequences, entirely legal consequences, for annoying the host government.

DP

Who gives AF about criticism of our so-called “allies”? Since when does that cross a line of any consequence?

Exactly. Not to mention it’s a little hard to tell who our allies are these days. Somehow, I don’t think anyone would be kicked out for commenting negatively about Canada—but Israel? I’m not so sure.

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Anonymous wrote:She has no future in the U.S. Even if immigration court stops her deportation, she has no pathway to legal status here. She will never get a H1B visa, she will never get a green card let alone citizenship. If her deportation is stopped she will live as a person in limbo in the U.S. if that’s her choice instead of returning to Turkey each to their own.

How is this irrelevant? She was a PhD student or postdoctoral student trying to get an education she can’t get in her home country.
That might be an unfamiliar concept to you - that someone would emigrate just to get a better education and not to try to become a US citizen.

You can’t be a phd student in Turkey? If you are trying to emigrate to get a better education keep your head down and not create waves in your host country. That’s not an unfamiliar concept either. Her time in the US is at an end. If her deportation is stopped she can’t study, get a job, do anything here. Cut her losses and go back to her own country, which somehow I bet she doesn’t want to do.

The higher the level of education, the more specialized it becomes. Obtaining a PhD means 4-5 years of focus and research on a topic that her supervisor would be an expert on. That expertise was probably not available in her home country because research dollars can be limited or the academic culture overall focuses more on teaching and not research.

I don’t see why she wouldn’t continue her studies at Tufts once she’s released. “Her time in the US is at the end”. Why so dramatic? That, and your aggressive tone, gives the impression that you’re actually a small, irrelevant, person in real life who needs to pump himself (or herself) up with bold dramatic statements like “Her time in the US is at the end”. (Quake, shiver…)

DP

The individuals callously indifferent or even gleeful over her abduction would squeal in outrage if their people were being targeted and spirited to a domestic blacksite for indeterminate periods of time. And they know it. But they live and breathe on a perverse belief that they are better than …

No, they just behave better than... Stir the pot, sometimes the pot gets sick of it.

If you don’t like the U.S. Constitution, you can leave the country. Most of us believe in due process and first amendment rights. We will stay and fight.

Good luck "fighting" against lawful activity you just don't like. Non-citizens run their mouths, demonstrate, and otherwise agitate against this country or its allies at their own risk. They have no absolute rights to residence. They can either conduct themselves prudently, or not. There may be consequences, entirely legal consequences, for annoying the host government.

DP

Who gives AF about criticism of our so-called “allies”? Since when does that cross a line of any consequence?

Exactly. Not to mention it’s a little hard to tell who our allies are these days. Somehow, I don’t think anyone would be kicked out for commenting negatively about Canada—but Israel? I’m not so sure.

The mere suggestion that criticism, especially warranted criticism FFS, of ANY foreign state is grounds for ANYTHING related to one’s liberty should be repulsive for anyone who has taken an oath to uphold and defend our Constitution. Shame on the individuals at State and within DHS who lack the moral clarity to understand the implications of their actions.

I couldn’t possibly give less F’s about any country other than the U.S. …

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Anonymous wrote:She has no future in the U.S. Even if immigration court stops her deportation, she has no pathway to legal status here. She will never get a H1B visa, she will never get a green card let alone citizenship. If her deportation is stopped she will live as a person in limbo in the U.S. if that’s her choice instead of returning to Turkey each to their own.

How is this irrelevant? She was a PhD student or postdoctoral student trying to get an education she can’t get in her home country.
That might be an unfamiliar concept to you - that someone would emigrate just to get a better education and not to try to become a US citizen.

You can’t be a phd student in Turkey? If you are trying to emigrate to get a better education keep your head down and not create waves in your host country. That’s not an unfamiliar concept either. Her time in the US is at an end. If her deportation is stopped she can’t study, get a job, do anything here. Cut her losses and go back to her own country, which somehow I bet she doesn’t want to do.

The higher the level of education, the more specialized it becomes. Obtaining a PhD means 4-5 years of focus and research on a topic that her supervisor would be an expert on. That expertise was probably not available in her home country because research dollars can be limited or the academic culture overall focuses more on teaching and not research.

I don’t see why she wouldn’t continue her studies at Tufts once she’s released. “Her time in the US is at the end”. Why so dramatic? That, and your aggressive tone, gives the impression that you’re actually a small, irrelevant, person in real life who needs to pump himself (or herself) up with bold dramatic statements like “Her time in the US is at the end”. (Quake, shiver…)

DP

The individuals callously indifferent or even gleeful over her abduction would squeal in outrage if their people were being targeted and spirited to a domestic blacksite for indeterminate periods of time. And they know it. But they live and breathe on a perverse belief that they are better than …

No, they just behave better than... Stir the pot, sometimes the pot gets sick of it.

If you don’t like the U.S. Constitution, you can leave the country. Most of us believe in due process and first amendment rights. We will stay and fight.

Good luck "fighting" against lawful activity you just don't like. Non-citizens run their mouths, demonstrate, and otherwise agitate against this country or its allies at their own risk. They have no absolute rights to residence. They can either conduct themselves prudently, or not. There may be consequences, entirely legal consequences, for annoying the host government.

Ew, this is gross.

Don’t you have some boots to polish?

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Anonymous wrote:She has no future in the U.S. Even if immigration court stops her deportation, she has no pathway to legal status here. She will never get a H1B visa, she will never get a green card let alone citizenship. If her deportation is stopped she will live as a person in limbo in the U.S. if that’s her choice instead of returning to Turkey each to their own.

How is this irrelevant? She was a PhD student or postdoctoral student trying to get an education she can’t get in her home country.
That might be an unfamiliar concept to you - that someone would emigrate just to get a better education and not to try to become a US citizen.

You can’t be a phd student in Turkey? If you are trying to emigrate to get a better education keep your head down and not create waves in your host country. That’s not an unfamiliar concept either. Her time in the US is at an end. If her deportation is stopped she can’t study, get a job, do anything here. Cut her losses and go back to her own country, which somehow I bet she doesn’t want to do.

The higher the level of education, the more specialized it becomes. Obtaining a PhD means 4-5 years of focus and research on a topic that her supervisor would be an expert on. That expertise was probably not available in her home country because research dollars can be limited or the academic culture overall focuses more on teaching and not research.

I don’t see why she wouldn’t continue her studies at Tufts once she’s released. “Her time in the US is at the end”. Why so dramatic? That, and your aggressive tone, gives the impression that you’re actually a small, irrelevant, person in real life who needs to pump himself (or herself) up with bold dramatic statements like “Her time in the US is at the end”. (Quake, shiver…)

DP

The individuals callously indifferent or even gleeful over her abduction would squeal in outrage if their people were being targeted and spirited to a domestic blacksite for indeterminate periods of time. And they know it. But they live and breathe on a perverse belief that they are better than …

No, they just behave better than... Stir the pot, sometimes the pot gets sick of it.

If you don’t like the U.S. Constitution, you can leave the country. Most of us believe in due process and first amendment rights. We will stay and fight.

Good luck "fighting" against lawful activity you just don't like. Non-citizens run their mouths, demonstrate, and otherwise agitate against this country or its allies at their own risk. They have no absolute rights to residence. They can either conduct themselves prudently, or not. There may be consequences, entirely legal consequences, for annoying the host government.

DP

Who gives AF about criticism of our so-called “allies”? Since when does that cross a line of any consequence?

Obviously, it now crosses a line, and government policymakers care. That you don't is not germane to anything.

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Anonymous wrote:She has no future in the U.S. Even if immigration court stops her deportation, she has no pathway to legal status here. She will never get a H1B visa, she will never get a green card let alone citizenship. If her deportation is stopped she will live as a person in limbo in the U.S. if that’s her choice instead of returning to Turkey each to their own.

How is this irrelevant? She was a PhD student or postdoctoral student trying to get an education she can’t get in her home country.
That might be an unfamiliar concept to you - that someone would emigrate just to get a better education and not to try to become a US citizen.

You can’t be a phd student in Turkey? If you are trying to emigrate to get a better education keep your head down and not create waves in your host country. That’s not an unfamiliar concept either. Her time in the US is at an end. If her deportation is stopped she can’t study, get a job, do anything here. Cut her losses and go back to her own country, which somehow I bet she doesn’t want to do.

The higher the level of education, the more specialized it becomes. Obtaining a PhD means 4-5 years of focus and research on a topic that her supervisor would be an expert on. That expertise was probably not available in her home country because research dollars can be limited or the academic culture overall focuses more on teaching and not research.

I don’t see why she wouldn’t continue her studies at Tufts once she’s released. “Her time in the US is at the end”. Why so dramatic? That, and your aggressive tone, gives the impression that you’re actually a small, irrelevant, person in real life who needs to pump himself (or herself) up with bold dramatic statements like “Her time in the US is at the end”. (Quake, shiver…)

DP

The individuals callously indifferent or even gleeful over her abduction would squeal in outrage if their people were being targeted and spirited to a domestic blacksite for indeterminate periods of time. And they know it. But they live and breathe on a perverse belief that they are better than …

No, they just behave better than... Stir the pot, sometimes the pot gets sick of it.

If you don’t like the U.S. Constitution, you can leave the country. Most of us believe in due process and first amendment rights. We will stay and fight.

Good luck "fighting" against lawful activity you just don't like. Non-citizens run their mouths, demonstrate, and otherwise agitate against this country or its allies at their own risk. They have no absolute rights to residence. They can either conduct themselves prudently, or not. There may be consequences, entirely legal consequences, for annoying the host government.

DP

Who gives AF about criticism of our so-called “allies”? Since when does that cross a line of any consequence?

Obviously, it now crosses a line, and government policymakers care. That you don't is not germane to anything.

What a weird statement. so if Trump wakes up one morning and says anyone who criticizes South African apartheid should be put on a plane to El Salvador prison you'd be ok with that?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:She has no future in the U.S. Even if immigration court stops her deportation, she has no pathway to legal status here. She will never get a H1B visa, she will never get a green card let alone citizenship. If her deportation is stopped she will live as a person in limbo in the U.S. if that’s her choice instead of returning to Turkey each to their own.

How is this irrelevant? She was a PhD student or postdoctoral student trying to get an education she can’t get in her home country.
That might be an unfamiliar concept to you - that someone would emigrate just to get a better education and not to try to become a US citizen.

You can’t be a phd student in Turkey? If you are trying to emigrate to get a better education keep your head down and not create waves in your host country. That’s not an unfamiliar concept either. Her time in the US is at an end. If her deportation is stopped she can’t study, get a job, do anything here. Cut her losses and go back to her own country, which somehow I bet she doesn’t want to do.

The higher the level of education, the more specialized it becomes. Obtaining a PhD means 4-5 years of focus and research on a topic that her supervisor would be an expert on. That expertise was probably not available in her home country because research dollars can be limited or the academic culture overall focuses more on teaching and not research.

I don’t see why she wouldn’t continue her studies at Tufts once she’s released. “Her time in the US is at the end”. Why so dramatic? That, and your aggressive tone, gives the impression that you’re actually a small, irrelevant, person in real life who needs to pump himself (or herself) up with bold dramatic statements like “Her time in the US is at the end”. (Quake, shiver…)

DP

The individuals callously indifferent or even gleeful over her abduction would squeal in outrage if their people were being targeted and spirited to a domestic blacksite for indeterminate periods of time. And they know it. But they live and breathe on a perverse belief that they are better than …

No, they just behave better than... Stir the pot, sometimes the pot gets sick of it.

If you don’t like the U.S. Constitution, you can leave the country. Most of us believe in due process and first amendment rights. We will stay and fight.

Good luck "fighting" against lawful activity you just don't like. Non-citizens run their mouths, demonstrate, and otherwise agitate against this country or its allies at their own risk. They have no absolute rights to residence. They can either conduct themselves prudently, or not. There may be consequences, entirely legal consequences, for annoying the host government.

DP

Who gives AF about criticism of our so-called “allies”? Since when does that cross a line of any consequence?

Obviously, it now crosses a line, and government policymakers care. That you don't is not germane to anything.

What a weird statement. so if Trump wakes up one morning and says anyone who criticizes South African apartheid should be put on a plane to El Salvador prison you'd be ok with that?

Apartheid is not terrorism. Pretty important difference.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:She has no future in the U.S. Even if immigration court stops her deportation, she has no pathway to legal status here. She will never get a H1B visa, she will never get a green card let alone citizenship. If her deportation is stopped she will live as a person in limbo in the U.S. if that’s her choice instead of returning to Turkey each to their own.

How is this irrelevant? She was a PhD student or postdoctoral student trying to get an education she can’t get in her home country.
That might be an unfamiliar concept to you - that someone would emigrate just to get a better education and not to try to become a US citizen.

You can’t be a phd student in Turkey? If you are trying to emigrate to get a better education keep your head down and not create waves in your host country. That’s not an unfamiliar concept either. Her time in the US is at an end. If her deportation is stopped she can’t study, get a job, do anything here. Cut her losses and go back to her own country, which somehow I bet she doesn’t want to do.

The higher the level of education, the more specialized it becomes. Obtaining a PhD means 4-5 years of focus and research on a topic that her supervisor would be an expert on. That expertise was probably not available in her home country because research dollars can be limited or the academic culture overall focuses more on teaching and not research.

I don’t see why she wouldn’t continue her studies at Tufts once she’s released. “Her time in the US is at the end”. Why so dramatic? That, and your aggressive tone, gives the impression that you’re actually a small, irrelevant, person in real life who needs to pump himself (or herself) up with bold dramatic statements like “Her time in the US is at the end”. (Quake, shiver…)

DP

The individuals callously indifferent or even gleeful over her abduction would squeal in outrage if their people were being targeted and spirited to a domestic blacksite for indeterminate periods of time. And they know it. But they live and breathe on a perverse belief that they are better than …

No, they just behave better than... Stir the pot, sometimes the pot gets sick of it.

If you don’t like the U.S. Constitution, you can leave the country. Most of us believe in due process and first amendment rights. We will stay and fight.

Good luck "fighting" against lawful activity you just don't like. Non-citizens run their mouths, demonstrate, and otherwise agitate against this country or its allies at their own risk. They have no absolute rights to residence. They can either conduct themselves prudently, or not. There may be consequences, entirely legal consequences, for annoying the host government.

DP

Who gives AF about criticism of our so-called “allies”? Since when does that cross a line of any consequence?

Obviously, it now crosses a line, and government policymakers care. That you don't is not germane to anything.

Cannot wait until the attention turns to your people, whomever they are.

Once again, I’ll be unaffected because my only concern is the U.S.

You? Lol

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Anonymous wrote:She has no future in the U.S. Even if immigration court stops her deportation, she has no pathway to legal status here. She will never get a H1B visa, she will never get a green card let alone citizenship. If her deportation is stopped she will live as a person in limbo in the U.S. if that’s her choice instead of returning to Turkey each to their own.

How is this irrelevant? She was a PhD student or postdoctoral student trying to get an education she can’t get in her home country.
That might be an unfamiliar concept to you - that someone would emigrate just to get a better education and not to try to become a US citizen.

You can’t be a phd student in Turkey? If you are trying to emigrate to get a better education keep your head down and not create waves in your host country. That’s not an unfamiliar concept either. Her time in the US is at an end. If her deportation is stopped she can’t study, get a job, do anything here. Cut her losses and go back to her own country, which somehow I bet she doesn’t want to do.

The higher the level of education, the more specialized it becomes. Obtaining a PhD means 4-5 years of focus and research on a topic that her supervisor would be an expert on. That expertise was probably not available in her home country because research dollars can be limited or the academic culture overall focuses more on teaching and not research.

I don’t see why she wouldn’t continue her studies at Tufts once she’s released. “Her time in the US is at the end”. Why so dramatic? That, and your aggressive tone, gives the impression that you’re actually a small, irrelevant, person in real life who needs to pump himself (or herself) up with bold dramatic statements like “Her time in the US is at the end”. (Quake, shiver…)

DP

The individuals callously indifferent or even gleeful over her abduction would squeal in outrage if their people were being targeted and spirited to a domestic blacksite for indeterminate periods of time. And they know it. But they live and breathe on a perverse belief that they are better than …

No, they just behave better than... Stir the pot, sometimes the pot gets sick of it.

If you don’t like the U.S. Constitution, you can leave the country. Most of us believe in due process and first amendment rights. We will stay and fight.

Good luck "fighting" against lawful activity you just don't like. Non-citizens run their mouths, demonstrate, and otherwise agitate against this country or its allies at their own risk. They have no absolute rights to residence. They can either conduct themselves prudently, or not. There may be consequences, entirely legal consequences, for annoying the host government.

DP

Who gives AF about criticism of our so-called “allies”? Since when does that cross a line of any consequence?

Obviously, it now crosses a line, and government policymakers care. That you don't is not germane to anything.

What a weird statement. so if Trump wakes up one morning and says anyone who criticizes South African apartheid should be put on a plane to El Salvador prison you'd be ok with that?

Apartheid is not terrorism. Pretty important difference.

Labels affixed by corrupt individuals are meaningless.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:She has no future in the U.S. Even if immigration court stops her deportation, she has no pathway to legal status here. She will never get a H1B visa, she will never get a green card let alone citizenship. If her deportation is stopped she will live as a person in limbo in the U.S. if that’s her choice instead of returning to Turkey each to their own.

How is this irrelevant? She was a PhD student or postdoctoral student trying to get an education she can’t get in her home country.
That might be an unfamiliar concept to you - that someone would emigrate just to get a better education and not to try to become a US citizen.

You can’t be a phd student in Turkey? If you are trying to emigrate to get a better education keep your head down and not create waves in your host country. That’s not an unfamiliar concept either. Her time in the US is at an end. If her deportation is stopped she can’t study, get a job, do anything here. Cut her losses and go back to her own country, which somehow I bet she doesn’t want to do.

The higher the level of education, the more specialized it becomes. Obtaining a PhD means 4-5 years of focus and research on a topic that her supervisor would be an expert on. That expertise was probably not available in her home country because research dollars can be limited or the academic culture overall focuses more on teaching and not research.

I don’t see why she wouldn’t continue her studies at Tufts once she’s released. “Her time in the US is at the end”. Why so dramatic? That, and your aggressive tone, gives the impression that you’re actually a small, irrelevant, person in real life who needs to pump himself (or herself) up with bold dramatic statements like “Her time in the US is at the end”. (Quake, shiver…)

DP

The individuals callously indifferent or even gleeful over her abduction would squeal in outrage if their people were being targeted and spirited to a domestic blacksite for indeterminate periods of time. And they know it. But they live and breathe on a perverse belief that they are better than …

No, they just behave better than... Stir the pot, sometimes the pot gets sick of it.

If you don’t like the U.S. Constitution, you can leave the country. Most of us believe in due process and first amendment rights. We will stay and fight.

Good luck "fighting" against lawful activity you just don't like. Non-citizens run their mouths, demonstrate, and otherwise agitate against this country or its allies at their own risk. They have no absolute rights to residence. They can either conduct themselves prudently, or not. There may be consequences, entirely legal consequences, for annoying the host government.

DP

Who gives AF about criticism of our so-called “allies”? Since when does that cross a line of any consequence?

Obviously, it now crosses a line, and government policymakers care. That you don't is not germane to anything.

What a weird statement. so if Trump wakes up one morning and says anyone who criticizes South African apartheid should be put on a plane to El Salvador prison you'd be ok with that?

Apartheid is not terrorism. Pretty important difference.

Writing an op-ed is not terrorism.

[Anonymous]

It's scary times for sure when LEO can grab you in daylight and force you out of state detain you and basically do whatever they want to you with force. It is not even about what that student did but about our government taking it to this level. What it means is that there's no kind they can't or won't cross and everyone is in danger. All you folks who say there's justification because she's a terrorist don't understand that you could easily be the next target for disagreeing with someone in government. You think you're safe because you're a white person I suppose but I really don't think there's any interest in who you are, only whether you are who they allow to leave be. It's really about them letting you stick around. What they did to her is exactly what an undem, tyrannical regime does to its people. They choose you because they want to - this is not about what she did but about how they approached her. This is pretty evil.

I really do think that we're moving to a US society that is very dark. We're clearly not that free from society anymore.

[Anonymous]

Free Dem society ^

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Anonymous wrote:She has no future in the U.S. Even if immigration court stops her deportation, she has no pathway to legal status here. She will never get a H1B visa, she will never get a green card let alone citizenship. If her deportation is stopped she will live as a person in limbo in the U.S. if that’s her choice instead of returning to Turkey each to their own.

How is this irrelevant? She was a PhD student or postdoctoral student trying to get an education she can’t get in her home country.
That might be an unfamiliar concept to you - that someone would emigrate just to get a better education and not to try to become a US citizen.

You can’t be a phd student in Turkey? If you are trying to emigrate to get a better education keep your head down and not create waves in your host country. That’s not an unfamiliar concept either. Her time in the US is at an end. If her deportation is stopped she can’t study, get a job, do anything here. Cut her losses and go back to her own country, which somehow I bet she doesn’t want to do.

The higher the level of education, the more specialized it becomes. Obtaining a PhD means 4-5 years of focus and research on a topic that her supervisor would be an expert on. That expertise was probably not available in her home country because research dollars can be limited or the academic culture overall focuses more on teaching and not research.

I don’t see why she wouldn’t continue her studies at Tufts once she’s released. “Her time in the US is at the end”. Why so dramatic? That, and your aggressive tone, gives the impression that you’re actually a small, irrelevant, person in real life who needs to pump himself (or herself) up with bold dramatic statements like “Her time in the US is at the end”. (Quake, shiver…)

DP

The individuals callously indifferent or even gleeful over her abduction would squeal in outrage if their people were being targeted and spirited to a domestic blacksite for indeterminate periods of time. And they know it. But they live and breathe on a perverse belief that they are better than …

No, they just behave better than... Stir the pot, sometimes the pot gets sick of it.

If you don’t like the U.S. Constitution, you can leave the country. Most of us believe in due process and first amendment rights. We will stay and fight.

Good luck "fighting" against lawful activity you just don't like. Non-citizens run their mouths, demonstrate, and otherwise agitate against this country or its allies at their own risk. They have no absolute rights to residence. They can either conduct themselves prudently, or not. There may be consequences, entirely legal consequences, for annoying the host government.

DP

Who gives AF about criticism of our so-called “allies”? Since when does that cross a line of any consequence?

Obviously, it now crosses a line, and government policymakers care. That you don't is not germane to anything.

What a weird statement. so if Trump wakes up one morning and says anyone who criticizes South African apartheid should be put on a plane to El Salvador prison you'd be ok with that?

Apartheid is not terrorism. Pretty important difference.

Writing an op-ed is not terrorism.

You’re right, of course.

But that point demonstrates the toxic, insidious underpinning of extremist Zionism - it relies on false claims, labels that actually reflect on their own nature, to distort reality and smear their critics.

No wonder extremist Zionists and MAGA are such comfortable bedfellows: for both, every accusation is a confession.

[Anonymous]

I worry about my naturalized citizen parents who openly post on social media against Trump - are they next?? Seriously I am starting to be concerned, democracy is done.