Trump today and MAGA still claiming Harris never worked at McDonald’s

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Anonymous wrote:This whole incident is just more proof that MAGAs are a bunch of silver-spoon nepo-toads who have never had a real minimum wage job punching a time card.

I worked at Disneyland at a fast food restaurant in the early 90s in high school. Did about 15 hours per week for a year. I do not know the name of a single person I worked with. And nor would any of them remember me. I have no photos of me in one of those god awful uniforms. No W2s or taxes from when I was 16.

Only rich kid nepo-toads who never held a real job would be unfamiliar with this set of facts, or demand proof (that doesn't exist). If they had jobs, it was at their dad's Ford dealership or babysitting for family friends. Not real jobs where you had a mean supervisor, punched a time card, and/or got sexually harassed by older colleauges or customers.

That's the tell in this whole debacle - Trump and his country club circle have never worked a day in their lives at a tough minimum wage job.

It’s also people at the other end of the spectrum. People from small towns, rural areas, places where there aren’t a lot of opportunities or diversity. Areas where everyone knows everyone else, including all the McDonald’s employees, because they’ve lived there their whole life, and went to school with the McDonald’s employee’s parents or cousin, and go to church with the breakfast shift manager. Places like this might have one or two other fast food restaurants, so it’s not like there are a lot of other places for someone to work after school. It’s impossible to confuse if they worked at McDonald’s or another fast food restaurant because they only have McDonald’s. It’s very easy to remember who worked there 40 years ago, because that’s the only restaurant they could’ve worked at and that’s the only restaurant anyone could’ve eaten at in town, because that’s all there is. They know who worked with them after school because they went all the way K-12 with the same group of people. And if you grow up in a place like that, it’s hard to fathom not remembering who worked where, or how you can forget your coworkers’ names.

I grew up in a place like that, except we didn’t even have a McDonald’s until around 1990. (Before that, the closest McDonald’s was about 25-30 miles away.) That area is thick with MAGA folks now, but they’re quieter this go round. They’ll still vote for Trump, but they don’t seem quite as excited.

I grew up in a rural, sparsely-populated red township in PA and the idea of some rich New York billionaire showing up at a McDonalds and play-acting at "work" doesn't sit well with me.

This is what a lot of people seem to be missing. A lot of people have done these jobs for real — worked until their feet and backs hurt, sweat over grills and fryers, felt their hands grow slimy inside latex gloves, kept their cool as unreasonable customers bullied them, inhaled bleach as they mopped grimy floors, lay in bed at night knowing that they were going to do it all again in the morning.

Do these people feel “seen” because a silver-spoon nepo baby put on an apron and leaned out a window handing fries to pre-selected supporters? I did these sorts of low-wage jobs, and I don’t think for a minute that Trump “worked at McDonald’s.”

It’s just so weird. This whole conversation is so so weird.

+1000. I still have burn scars and the "asbestos fingers" I gained working a convection oven roasting chickens, potatoes and other things working in a restaurant kitchen when I was working my way through college. Anyone who worked in a restaurant kitchen knows exactly what I'm talking about. Trump on the other hand grew up with a silver spoon in his mouth and was handed a half-billion dollar business empire.

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Anonymous wrote:This whole incident is just more proof that MAGAs are a bunch of silver-spoon nepo-toads who have never had a real minimum wage job punching a time card.

I worked at Disneyland at a fast food restaurant in the early 90s in high school. Did about 15 hours per week for a year. I do not know the name of a single person I worked with. And nor would any of them remember me. I have no photos of me in one of those god awful uniforms. No W2s or taxes from when I was 16.

Only rich kid nepo-toads who never held a real job would be unfamiliar with this set of facts, or demand proof (that doesn't exist). If they had jobs, it was at their dad's Ford dealership or babysitting for family friends. Not real jobs where you had a mean supervisor, punched a time card, and/or got sexually harassed by older colleauges or customers.

That's the tell in this whole debacle - Trump and his country club circle have never worked a day in their lives at a tough minimum wage job.

It’s also people at the other end of the spectrum. People from small towns, rural areas, places where there aren’t a lot of opportunities or diversity. Areas where everyone knows everyone else, including all the McDonald’s employees, because they’ve lived there their whole life, and went to school with the McDonald’s employee’s parents or cousin, and go to church with the breakfast shift manager. Places like this might have one or two other fast food restaurants, so it’s not like there are a lot of other places for someone to work after school. It’s impossible to confuse if they worked at McDonald’s or another fast food restaurant because they only have McDonald’s. It’s very easy to remember who worked there 40 years ago, because that’s the only restaurant they could’ve worked at and that’s the only restaurant anyone could’ve eaten at in town, because that’s all there is. They know who worked with them after school because they went all the way K-12 with the same group of people. And if you grow up in a place like that, it’s hard to fathom not remembering who worked where, or how you can forget your coworkers’ names.

I grew up in a place like that, except we didn’t even have a McDonald’s until around 1990. (Before that, the closest McDonald’s was about 25-30 miles away.) That area is thick with MAGA folks now, but they’re quieter this go round. They’ll still vote for Trump, but they don’t seem quite as excited.

I grew up in a rural, sparsely-populated red township in PA and the idea of some rich New York billionaire showing up at a McDonalds and play-acting at "work" doesn't sit well with me.

This is what a lot of people seem to be missing. A lot of people have done these jobs for real — worked until their feet and backs hurt, sweat over grills and fryers, felt their hands grow slimy inside latex gloves, kept their cool as unreasonable customers bullied them, inhaled bleach as they mopped grimy floors, lay in bed at night knowing that they were going to do it all again in the morning.

Do these people feel “seen” because a silver-spoon nepo baby put on an apron and leaned out a window handing fries to pre-selected supporters? I did these sorts of low-wage jobs, and I don’t think for a minute that Trump “worked at McDonald’s.”

It’s just so weird. This whole conversation is so so weird.

Only business owners, crypto bros, and country club goers who love Trump and have education trusts to pay for their kids' private school think this was a "brilliant move" politically.

Anyone who has actually worked a low-wage fast food job knows that cosplaying "working class" is one of the phoniest and most-cringe things a politician can do.

Exactly.

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And, more than that, by just showing up and putting on that apron, he signaled that he thinks that work has dignity, is important, and the people who both work at McDonalds and have to eat rushed meals at McDonalds aren’t beneath him. This is an arrow straight to the heart of the Democrats who really struggle to hide their disdain for working class voters.

All he thinks about this is that it had value as an opportunistic political stunt.

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Anonymous wrote:I could care less whether Harris worked at McDonalds; I just think it was a great campaign strategy for Trump to work at one.

can you say why? A serious question because it’s not clear to me why people see this as a great stunt.

Maybe I would feel differently if he’d put in an actual shift, with real customers. But nothing about this was working. Surely anyone who has ever held a job like this can see that.

Just because a kid wears a hat that says “principal for a day” and makes a few announcements over the PA system doesn’t actually mean she’s in charge of the school.

I just genuinely don’t get this one and am trying to understand what people are seeing and celebrating here.

I am not the PP, but I’m a Harris voter, albeit one who believes Harris clearly lied about working at McDonalds (but who cares in the face of freaking J6).

Here is why this is a good campaign stunt:

First, nobody believes he actually worked (eg will get W2 income, went through food safety training, etc.). The people who keep on talking about how this is fake are missing the point. Of course a man with multiple assassination attempts on his life is not opening the drive-through window for random strangers. The idea that he worked a real shift is not the point—nobody who is moved by this ad or voters he is trying to reach expected him to work a full shift. I’m not even sure how that would have been operationally possible given the security issues.

But he did, unquestionably, do the actual labor involved for a few minutes. He served the fries. He chatted with the drive-through window and came across as genuine and likeable (and I say that as someone who despises the man). He operated the fryer. He, in other words, showed he wasn’t above getting his hands a little greasy and putting on an apron like millions of other Americans.

And, more than that, by just showing up and putting on that apron, he signaled that he thinks that work has dignity, is important, and the people who both work at McDonalds and have to eat rushed meals at McDonalds aren’t beneath him. This is an arrow straight to the heart of the Democrats who really struggle to hide their disdain for working class voters.

It is an emotionally brilliant campaign move. I’m dismayed about it since I am a Harris voter, but I can’t help but see the brilliance of the maneuver. The photo of him waving out the window is going to be iconic in political campaign history.

Iconic? Any image that survives history will be a meme of how unserious of a President/candidate he is, particularly when juxtaposed on the damage he ends up doing to those same workers.

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So Trump spent last week talking about Arnold Palmer's schlong, saying - twice - that he'd send the military after his political opponents (and this isn't the first time he's made that threat), swaying to his personal Spotify play list for forty minutes at a "town hall" before simply leaving, backing out of at least a half-dozen interviews with outlets not named Fox, serving fake fries to fake customers at a restaurant that had been closed down for the occasion...

But Kamala can't prove she worked at McDonalds for ten weeks in 1983.

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So you people are focused on this rather than, say the impact of social security being bankrupt faster under Trump, or inflation increasing due to Trump tariffs, or schools being forced to limit what they can teach under Trump.

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You mean this was staged?

I am shocked! I always thought Donald worked and McDonald's. That's why they call it McDonald's.

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Anonymous wrote:This whole incident is just more proof that MAGAs are a bunch of silver-spoon nepo-toads who have never had a real minimum wage job punching a time card.

I worked at Disneyland at a fast food restaurant in the early 90s in high school. Did about 15 hours per week for a year. I do not know the name of a single person I worked with. And nor would any of them remember me. I have no photos of me in one of those god awful uniforms. No W2s or taxes from when I was 16.

Only rich kid nepo-toads who never held a real job would be unfamiliar with this set of facts, or demand proof (that doesn't exist). If they had jobs, it was at their dad's Ford dealership or babysitting for family friends. Not real jobs where you had a mean supervisor, punched a time card, and/or got sexually harassed by older colleauges or customers.

That's the tell in this whole debacle - Trump and his country club circle have never worked a day in their lives at a tough minimum wage job.

It’s also people at the other end of the spectrum. People from small towns, rural areas, places where there aren’t a lot of opportunities or diversity. Areas where everyone knows everyone else, including all the McDonald’s employees, because they’ve lived there their whole life, and went to school with the McDonald’s employee’s parents or cousin, and go to church with the breakfast shift manager. Places like this might have one or two other fast food restaurants, so it’s not like there are a lot of other places for someone to work after school. It’s impossible to confuse if they worked at McDonald’s or another fast food restaurant because they only have McDonald’s. It’s very easy to remember who worked there 40 years ago, because that’s the only restaurant they could’ve worked at and that’s the only restaurant anyone could’ve eaten at in town, because that’s all there is. They know who worked with them after school because they went all the way K-12 with the same group of people. And if you grow up in a place like that, it’s hard to fathom not remembering who worked where, or how you can forget your coworkers’ names.

I grew up in a place like that, except we didn’t even have a McDonald’s until around 1990. (Before that, the closest McDonald’s was about 25-30 miles away.) That area is thick with MAGA folks now, but they’re quieter this go round. They’ll still vote for Trump, but they don’t seem quite as excited.

I grew up in a rural, sparsely-populated red township in PA and the idea of some rich New York billionaire showing up at a McDonalds and play-acting at "work" doesn't sit well with me.

This is what a lot of people seem to be missing. A lot of people have done these jobs for real — worked until their feet and backs hurt, sweat over grills and fryers, felt their hands grow slimy inside latex gloves, kept their cool as unreasonable customers bullied them, inhaled bleach as they mopped grimy floors, lay in bed at night knowing that they were going to do it all again in the morning.

Do these people feel “seen” because a silver-spoon nepo baby put on an apron and leaned out a window handing fries to pre-selected supporters? I did these sorts of low-wage jobs, and I don’t think for a minute that Trump “worked at McDonald’s.”

It’s just so weird. This whole conversation is so so weird.

+1000. I still have burn scars and the "asbestos fingers" I gained working a convection oven roasting chickens, potatoes and other things working in a restaurant kitchen when I was working my way through college. Anyone who worked in a restaurant kitchen knows exactly what I'm talking about. Trump on the other hand grew up with a silver spoon in his mouth and was handed a half-billion dollar business empire.

I was a fry cook for four months. I had two sets of clothes (I wore one and washed the other and swapped) that I wore for work and were destroyed by work. I had to replace my shoes and kept the old ones just for work. The amount of oil, grease and dirt that got on those clothes from one shift was amazing. I got really good as sliding around corners to get from fryer to freezer and then back again because my midway through the day, the kitchen floor was like an ice skating rink. And I had to mop the floor with a heavy degreaser every night. And yes, I had fryer burns up and down my arms. The scars faded after about 3-4 years, but they lasted a long time.

Considering how unstable he is on his feet, there is no way he'd be able to work a full shift as a fry cook.

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Anonymous wrote:I could care less whether Harris worked at McDonalds; I just think it was a great campaign strategy for Trump to work at one.

can you say why? A serious question because it’s not clear to me why people see this as a great stunt.

Maybe I would feel differently if he’d put in an actual shift, with real customers. But nothing about this was working. Surely anyone who has ever held a job like this can see that.

Just because a kid wears a hat that says “principal for a day” and makes a few announcements over the PA system doesn’t actually mean she’s in charge of the school.

I just genuinely don’t get this one and am trying to understand what people are seeing and celebrating here.

I am not the PP, but I’m a Harris voter, albeit one who believes Harris clearly lied about working at McDonalds (but who cares in the face of freaking J6).

Here is why this is a good campaign stunt:

First, nobody believes he actually worked (eg will get W2 income, went through food safety training, etc.). The people who keep on talking about how this is fake are missing the point. Of course a man with multiple assassination attempts on his life is not opening the drive-through window for random strangers. The idea that he worked a real shift is not the point—nobody who is moved by this ad or voters he is trying to reach expected him to work a full shift. I’m not even sure how that would have been operationally possible given the security issues.

But he did, unquestionably, do the actual labor involved for a few minutes. He served the fries. He chatted with the drive-through window and came across as genuine and likeable (and I say that as someone who despises the man). He operated the fryer. He, in other words, showed he wasn’t above getting his hands a little greasy and putting on an apron like millions of other Americans.

And, more than that, by just showing up and putting on that apron, he signaled that he thinks that work has dignity, is important, and the people who both work at McDonalds and have to eat rushed meals at McDonalds aren’t beneath him. This is an arrow straight to the heart of the Democrats who really struggle to hide their disdain for working class voters.

It is an emotionally brilliant campaign move. I’m dismayed about it since I am a Harris voter, but I can’t help but see the brilliance of the maneuver. The photo of him waving out the window is going to be iconic in political campaign history.

Iconic? Any image that survives history will be a meme of how unserious of a President/candidate he is, particularly when juxtaposed on the damage he ends up doing to those same workers.

I only mean iconic in the sense of political campaign history. Iconic as in one of those images that get studied in political campaign history classes.

I do think that if the Harris campaign responds quickly and effectively, they could (as someone linked above) turn this into Trump’s Dukakis moment. But they’ve already lost time; I would have expected a sharp mocking ad to be out already. I think the issue is that Harris probably did lie about her job, and so the campaign is uncertain about how to handle it. It’s too bad because handled well, they could absolutely torpedo Trump’s gains with this stunt. There is still a chance for Harris to turn this around but they’ve got to act quickly and decisively.

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So which is worse, the prospect that Harris may not have worked at McDonalds (there is no reason not to believe it but whatever) or this...

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Team Harris can’t give details on her alleged McDonald’s job to reporters, but they can refresh DCUM all day and flag posts. Crisis mode.

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Anonymous wrote:I could care less whether Harris worked at McDonalds; I just think it was a great campaign strategy for Trump to work at one.

Except Trump didn't work at a McDonalds. He went to a McDonalds that was closed for business during his visit, where he did some cosplay and play-acted working, with actors pretending to be customers.

It's comical that you claim (without evidence) that Kamala Harris lied about working at a McDonalds, yet here we now have proof that Trump claims to have now worked at a McDonalds except it's a lie and he only pretended to work at one, given it was closed for business and only had fake customers. Seems like a backfire to any thinking person.

The evidence is that McDonald’s has no records of her working there and no one has come forward to say they worked with her.

That’s lack of evidence, not evidence.

Exactly. A basic education would have told the PP that is the Argument From Ignorance fallacy--that the lack of evidence is somehow evidence. Doh.

Oh please. This isn’t a court of law, it’s about people asking questions of a known plagiarist. They do have reasons to back up their disbelief as shown, unlike what that PP was claiming (the “without evidence” phrasing).

DP. Oh please yourself. STOP DEFENDING lies. STOP DEFENDING obvious fallacious rhetorical devices. STOP DEFENDING TRUMP'S VASTLY GREATER NUMBER OF LIES compared to literally anyone else in US politics.

You are dishonest and acting in tremendously bad faith for doing this, and doubly so for trying to attack or marginalize anyone who calls out the fact of what Trump is doing and what you are doing.

Kamala has claimed, without evidence, to have worked at McDonalds.

You can stop your shrieking.

I had summer jobs during high school and college. There is absolutely no way I could substantiate them today.

Tax records. Social security.

SS does not show where you worked, only the amount earned per year.

Nobody keeps paper tax records from a job in the 1980s.

Employment records are tossed after 7 years.

She can show what she earned that summer in alameda county.

What part of SS does not show this information do you not understand?

SS shows an amount earned in a year and zero other information as to where that was.

Find a co-worker. Find the franchise owner. Find a single freaking photo from that summer. Anything? Nope. Now her team is ghosting reporters who are prodding her. This is a crisis.

Nobody took photos of themself at work in the 1980s. Not a common thing. I have zero photos of myself at work prior to the 2000s. Stop with the photo argument, it is dumb.

Nobody remembers who they worked with forty years ago even if they became famous forty years later. I cannot name anyone I worked with at my college job. Too long ago and I am fifteen years younger than Harris. If they became famous forty years later, hell if I would recognize them

Franchise owner likely dead or senile at this point. It was 1983, 40 years ago!!!

I am Harris' age (a year younger). In high school, I worked at a radio station that one of my classmates' mother worked at. I worked at the local hospital as a patient aide (volunteer). In college, I worked at a Subway (three locations in the same franchise, actually), a Captain D's (southern chain like a Long John Silver's) and as a computer room monitor at school. These are all around the same time as Harris' alleged McDonald's stint. The radio station has gone out of business and I don't remember where it was (other than the general part of town). The computer room I worked with on campus has been gone for over 30 years as people no longer have to go to a room on campus to use college computer servers. The only thing I remember about the other jobs is where the locations are. I do not remember a single person, manager, co-worker who I worked with in any of those jobs.

Who would? I doubt many of our peers could remember any co-workers from part-time high school and college jobs unless they continued being friends after employment, but very few people continued as friends with co-workers from those early part-time jobs.

Nobody has come forward to corroborate Kamala's assertion.

That’s kind of the point of PP’s post. Most people don’t remember randos they worked with 40 years ago, unless they knew them in some other context besides work.

She’s now the most famous woman in the world.

In 1983 was a Canadian transplant at this alleged Northern California McDonald’s. She has a very unique first name. She was gorgeous. She was an articulate student at Howard.

And not a soul remembers her? lol. Stop.

No they don't. Just as I don't remember the people I worked with 25 years ago including people who probably had unique names (I worked in an urban area) or were cute. And we're talking 40 years ago... they could be famous now, I wouldn't recognize them whatsoever.

And even if they did, who wants to come forward and be critiqued by MAGA nuts? I wouldn't want to even if I did remember someone.

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Anonymous wrote:Team Harris can’t give details on her alleged McDonald’s job to reporters, but they can refresh DCUM all day and flag posts. Crisis mode.

You missed the part where you are limited in the number of jobs you can list and put the most relevant ones. Nobody lists their McD job when they have better jobs that get priority.

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So this lie appeared from thin air in 2019. Then it’s the focal point of a book and she’s stumping on it. It reads like she got the idea to steal this McValor from Doug, who also claims he worked at McDonald’s.

Not until Harris ran for president in 2019 and spoke to a labor rally in Las Vegas did she mention the job, telling the crowd that she "was a student when I was working in a McDonald’s."

https://freebeacon.com/elections/i-did-fries-kamala-harris-claims-she-worked-at-mcdonalds-but-she-never-mentioned-it-until-she-ran-for-president-did-she-really-toil-beneath-the-golden-arches/

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And, more than that, by just showing up and putting on that apron, he signaled that he thinks that work has dignity, is important, and the people who both work at McDonalds and have to eat rushed meals at McDonalds aren’t beneath him. This is an arrow straight to the heart of the Democrats who really struggle to hide their disdain for working class voters.

All he thinks about this is that it had value as an opportunistic political stunt.

I don’t think he thinks much of anything anymore. I don’t think he’s making decisions, I don’t think he’s calling shots, I don’t think he’s alert and oriented probably 90% of the time. He is, as the youth say, “cooked.” He can’t handle anything anymore. He’s still telling outright lies that only the slowest and dumbest would believe.