FCPS Early Release Mondays

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Anonymous wrote:The calendar already has 14 teacher/staff development workdays. They could fit this into those days????

What a joke.

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They already have so few 5 day weeks of school.

Remember when they made that HUGE deal about creating calendars for the next three years and included in bold the number of 5 day weeks?

This feels like a sneaky bait and switch. Thanks FCPS.

Do you honestly have so little trust in FCPS that you think this was a bait and switch? Come on. Use your brain.

FCPS isn't the one who planned 27-36 hours of additional required training for teachers.That was the state. Youngkin.

My kids' teachers already work too many hours, and they shouldn't have to sacrifice any more of their personal time to complete these requirements. If these trainings make literacy instruction stronger, I'm all for kids missing a few hours of instruction each month.

DP. FCPS has the same state requirements as everyone else and I don’t see Loudon adding seven half days to an already-published calendar. They could also have sought parental input (like would you rather this be Friday’s…would you rather it be four full-days…) instead of this, which yes, looks like a bait and switch since aftercare options are typically booked well in advance.

But the complaint about was about the full, five-day weeks being bolded, and now that poster feels it is a bait and switch.

The half-days being on Fridays or using full day PD days instead, wouldn't solve the PP's complaint.

Adding four full days on weeks that are already not full weeks would solve the complaint. Half days on Fridays at least suggest some thought given to working parents.

Your kid will still be at the school. So this will have no negative effects on parents.

My kid won’t because they’re not starting this year.

The negative impact on parents, since you need it explained, is that whatever they’re doing in the 21 hours is going to be costly— no where does it say it’s free— badly supervised, and a vast waste of time. Give it to the parents as weekend time and they’ll have more time to spend with their kids not more time for their kids to be stuck in front of movies (which, yes, is what happened in classrooms this week)

We pay $25-$30 per hour for short term childcare in our home. This schedule change will cost our family at least $500. Multiple that by the number of ES students and you get a huge number.

And our property taxes are going up by 11%. Awesome.

How?? How will it cost you family $500. YOUR KID CAN STAY AT SCHOOL. Childcare is being provided. You do not need to pay for your own childcare on those days.

Absolutely nowhere in that email does it guarantee no-cost childcare for all kids. Yes there will be something at school but other school-based aftercare is both space limited at a the parents expense.

The whole your kids can stay at school seems off to me....

There’s no such thing as a free lunch and
in this situation with early closing Mondays, the “free” childcare that’s not SACC is going to be your DC running around in the gym while some disengaged substitute hired for just such purpose “supervises” for 2 hours. It’s a shit*ty gig disguised as a Covid-era “assistant.”

Your DC will hate the arrangement and beg you to make other plans (or be home alone for a few hours) so as to avoid this mess.

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Anonymous wrote:Back in the 2010s they used do this
back in 2012, I was at the post office and I saw my kids teacher, My daughter was excited and screamed her name. I said Hello....... She was selling on ebay so she came to the post office........ I wanted to ask her why she wasn't at work but didn't, but this is what going to happen again..

How do you know she didn’t take leave? She was entitled to take leave, and it was probably easier to do it when she didn’t have to make sub plans.

I HATE that teachers are expected to chain themselves to their desks and that people always assume the worst.

I’m looking directly at you, PP.

I don't....... but again we lost 2+ years of school because of COVID. They need to be back at school.

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Anonymous wrote:https://wtop.com/loudoun-county/2024/06/loudoun-county-approves-plan-to-close-schools-for-4-extra-days-so-teachers-can-finish-trainings/#

London added 4 days.

After seeking parental input back in May. Don’t see much input being sought in this case.

Note that for Loudoun the 4 days effect the entire school system (preK-12, not just elementary schools).

Also, in the case of Loudoun (where I live), I wouldn't necessarily say that in May they framed the message as seeking input. More, an email was sent out saying that there was a plan under serious consideration to have numerous late arrival Wednesdays during the upcoming school year for the trainings (again for the entire school system). They didn't start off by sending out a survey or anything like that.

Then, there was such a massive backlash that LCPS retreated on the early release plan and came up with the new plan.

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Anonymous wrote:Back in the 2010s they used do this
back in 2012, I was at the post office and I saw my kids teacher, My daughter was excited and screamed her name. I said Hello....... She was selling on ebay so she came to the post office........ I wanted to ask her why she wasn't at work but didn't, but this is what going to happen again..

How do you know she didn’t take leave? She was entitled to take leave, and it was probably easier to do it when she didn’t have to make sub plans.

I HATE that teachers are expected to chain themselves to their desks and that people always assume the worst.

I’m looking directly at you, PP.

I don't....... but again we lost 2+ years of school because of COVID. They need to be back at school.

And what does that have to do with the teacher’s trip to the post office?

And how is it this teacher’s fault that Covid happened? Or any teacher’s fault? Do you think teachers actually have that much power to close schools? (The answer is no, but they sure have had to take the blame. It’s easy to blame teachers, I know.)

And when are you going to move on?

My eyes can’t roll enough.

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The Virginia literacy act is adding required training that teachers have to complete. In addition to the other required training and professional development from FCPs/VDOE

Most of you parents complain about incompetent teachers and inadequate instruction. So this will help address that. So stop*#%^** about giving teachers time to get the training.

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Anonymous wrote:The Virginia literacy act is adding required training that teachers have to complete. In addition to the other required training and professional development from FCPs/VDOE

Most of you parents complain about incompetent teachers and inadequate instruction. So this will help address that. So stop*#%^** about giving teachers time to get the training.

Part of the point is that the bleeping colleges should have taught the teachers how to teach reading in the first place. Science of reading has been known by many names, but it's been known for 4 decades at least. Direct instruction (the way Benchmark is at least supposed to work) has been proven to work for 5 decades. This is not new information, it's just new to people who weren't taught.

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The steering committee is also working on bringing in other groups to the school during those times, in addition to SACC: YMCA, scouts, tutors, being running enrichment clubs; and remember, not every staff member is attending this training.

How the heck are scouts supposed to help. I'm a Girl Scout leader, who is a volunteer and a full time working mom. In my troop many moms or teachers and the few who do not work have small children too young for school. I'm not taking PTO to come and watch kids. My own kids are in SACC.

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Anonymous wrote:Back in the 2010s they used do this
back in 2012, I was at the post office and I saw my kids teacher, My daughter was excited and screamed her name. I said Hello....... She was selling on ebay so she came to the post office........ I wanted to ask her why she wasn't at work but didn't, but this is what going to happen again..

How do you know she didn’t take leave? She was entitled to take leave, and it was probably easier to do it when she didn’t have to make sub plans.

I HATE that teachers are expected to chain themselves to their desks and that people always assume the worst.

I’m looking directly at you, PP.

I don't....... but again we lost 2+ years of school because of COVID. They need to be back at school.

And this post office interaction was in 2012, eight years prior to COVID, not a great correlation.

I see so many exaggerated timelines (stop saying 2+ years.) It was from March 2020 to March 2021 (1 year), if your kid didn’t return in March of 2021 it because YOU choose virtual. Even if I use to September 2021 as a start date, it was still a year and a half (including 2 summers in that timeframe).

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Anonymous wrote:Back in the 2010s they used do this
back in 2012, I was at the post office and I saw my kids teacher, My daughter was excited and screamed her name. I said Hello....... She was selling on ebay so she came to the post office........ I wanted to ask her why she wasn't at work but didn't, but this is what going to happen again..

How do you know she didn’t take leave? She was entitled to take leave, and it was probably easier to do it when she didn’t have to make sub plans.

I HATE that teachers are expected to chain themselves to their desks and that people always assume the worst.

I’m looking directly at you, PP.

I don't....... but again we lost 2+ years of school because of COVID. They need to be back at school.

Do you mean one year? Because my kid was out of school from mid-March 2020 to mid-March 2021. Where was yours?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Back in the 2010s they used do this
back in 2012, I was at the post office and I saw my kids teacher, My daughter was excited and screamed her name. I said Hello....... She was selling on ebay so she came to the post office........ I wanted to ask her why she wasn't at work but didn't, but this is what going to happen again..

How do you know she didn’t take leave? She was entitled to take leave, and it was probably easier to do it when she didn’t have to make sub plans.

I HATE that teachers are expected to chain themselves to their desks and that people always assume the worst.

I’m looking directly at you, PP.

I don't....... but again we lost 2+ years of school because of COVID. They need to be back at school.

And what does that have to do with the teacher’s trip to the post office?

And how is it this teacher’s fault that Covid happened? Or any teacher’s fault? Do you think teachers actually have that much power to close schools? (The answer is no, but they sure have had to take the blame. It’s easy to blame teachers, I know.)

And when are you going to move on?

My eyes can’t roll enough.

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Don’t forget the part about losing “2+years” of school.

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Anonymous wrote:Back in the 2010s they used do this
back in 2012, I was at the post office and I saw my kids teacher, My daughter was excited and screamed her name. I said Hello....... She was selling on ebay so she came to the post office........ I wanted to ask her why she wasn't at work but didn't, but this is what going to happen again..

How do you know she didn’t take leave? She was entitled to take leave, and it was probably easier to do it when she didn’t have to make sub plans.

I HATE that teachers are expected to chain themselves to their desks and that people always assume the worst.

I’m looking directly at you, PP.

I don't....... but again we lost 2+ years of school because of COVID. They need to be back at school.

Do you mean one year? Because my kid was out of school from mid-March 2020 to mid-March 2021. Where was yours?

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Our teachers created and recorded lessons to finish out April-June 2020. Students were still submitting assignments and getting feedback. My kids were then online the next year until they went back in March or April. It wasn’t ideal, but it was something and didn’t span 2 years.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The Virginia literacy act is adding required training that teachers have to complete. In addition to the other required training and professional development from FCPs/VDOE

Most of you parents complain about incompetent teachers and inadequate instruction. So this will help address that. So stop*#%^** about giving teachers time to get the training.

Part of the point is that the bleeping colleges should have taught the teachers how to teach reading in the first place. Science of reading has been known by many names, but it's been known for 4 decades at least. Direct instruction (the way Benchmark is at least supposed to work) has been proven to work for 5 decades. This is not new information, it's just new to people who weren't taught.

Great! Then get of this webpage and go reprogram all the educational programs in America!

Also, think of a plan for every teacher in the US who didn’t major in elementary Ed. I’ve been teaching for over 20 years. I majored in mathematics and computer science. Started off in MS, I have been teaching 2nd grade for the past 10 years. There are quite a few of us out there who don’t have a degree in elementary education.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Back in the 2010s they used do this
back in 2012, I was at the post office and I saw my kids teacher, My daughter was excited and screamed her name. I said Hello....... She was selling on ebay so she came to the post office........ I wanted to ask her why she wasn't at work but didn't, but this is what going to happen again..

How do you know she didn’t take leave? She was entitled to take leave, and it was probably easier to do it when she didn’t have to make sub plans.

I HATE that teachers are expected to chain themselves to their desks and that people always assume the worst.

I’m looking directly at you, PP.

I don't....... but again we lost 2+ years of school because of COVID. They need to be back at school.

Do you mean one year? Because my kid was out of school from mid-March 2020 to mid-March 2021. Where was yours?

In mid-March 2021, my kid went back for 2 days of in-person school, but still had 2 days of virtual school. And every Monday off for teacher workdays. But maybe your FCPS school was different. Mine was just a 2nd grader.

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Anonymous wrote:Back in the 2010s they used do this
back in 2012, I was at the post office and I saw my kids teacher, My daughter was excited and screamed her name. I said Hello....... She was selling on ebay so she came to the post office........ I wanted to ask her why she wasn't at work but didn't, but this is what going to happen again..

How do you know she didn’t take leave? She was entitled to take leave, and it was probably easier to do it when she didn’t have to make sub plans.

I HATE that teachers are expected to chain themselves to their desks and that people always assume the worst.

I’m looking directly at you, PP.

I don't....... but again we lost 2+ years of school because of COVID. They need to be back at school.

Do you mean one year? Because my kid was out of school from mid-March 2020 to mid-March 2021. Where was yours?

In mid-March 2021, my kid went back for 2 days of in-person school, but still had 2 days of virtual school. And every Monday off for teacher workdays. But maybe your FCPS school was different. Mine was just a 2nd grader.

Yes, A decent percentage of the schools had the same kids there four days a week instead of the rotating two days a week. Those decisions were based on CDC guidelines on social distancing and spacing in the classrooms. Again, not FCPS or teachers fault.

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Teachers don’t have enough time during the day to do everything!!!! That is why they need the extra time. Not to mention the county keeps changing the curriculum on teachers.