Anti-war crime does not equal anti-Semitic

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"You weren't using it anyway" doesn't sound like a good excuse to most people.

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Anonymous wrote:op i'm a jew and i agree with you.
however I do think people are crossing a line into anti semitism now. It's really hard to tell where 'the line' is... for example, we live in nyc and spend time in dutchess county and a local businessman posted this. It feels like a lot of the rhetoric is just getting really extreme...

https://x.com/RobLister9/status/1783907912907190719

That's not anti-Semitic. It's entirely focused on the policies of the country and government of Israel. It's a bit intense and all encompassing but the situation is pretty messed up. People are fed up and want the whole Israel-Palestine blood feud thing to end.

you dont think 'f balfour, f zionism' might be construed as such, seeing as zionism is in part the belief that israel should exist at all?

The problem is not that Israel exists but that others had to be forcibly removed for it to exist, and it would’ve been nice to get that acknowledged once in a while instead the countless stories like “we made the desert bloom”.

What’s the point? Are we asking England, Spain, Portugal, France, Belgium etc to do the same? This is as useful as Chicago calling for a ceasefire. It’s all leftism feel good do nothing.

All expelled from their colonies around the globe. Here is a hint for you, extreme brutality is a sign of end stage for the colonizer.

Jews have no one country to “go back to.” That was the point of the creation of Israel. I can’t believe I have to write this. They are not “white colonizers.” This is just the brain dead, historically illiterate Gen Z attempt to gloss American racial politics onto something far more complicated.

Just because you don't have a country "to go back to", doesn't mean other people have to move to create space for your new country. But by all means, feel free to argue that settlers with Brooklyn accents really are natively connected to Eretz Israel more than a guy called Khaled whose family lived in Yaffa for generations.

I presume you’re Native American, or if not, moving back to wherever your gg grandma immigrated from?

That's a GREAT comparison so let's take it to its logical conclusions:

1. Issue Israeli passports to all Palestinians. Native Americans are American citizens are they not?

2. Acknowledge at every opportunity the great evil done to Native Americans, like the US does today.

3. Lose the fake stories you told for generations, aka "we made the desert bloom".

Proceed, please.

Disagree with your #2 and 3. We've gone backwards in acknowledging US history rather than forwards. And losing "fake" stories about our history helps no one and only tears a country apart. Adding new stories is a possible step, although to date we aren't doing it here yet.

Number 1 will never happen because people with passports can vote and Israel can never allow that many Palestinians to have voting rights. The only solution that Israel will agree to is permanent occupation or ethnic cleansing

Of course. Israel loves to brag about "but we have Arabs!" but works really really hard to keep the Arab numbers as low as possible. They want enough Arabs to pretend to be a multicultural tolerant country but not enough to become a political power. That's not allowed. A Jewish state means Jewish government and a Jewish majority.

How many majority-Jewish countries are there in the world? How many majority-Muslim states are there?

Let me rephrase your question:

How many majority muslim states are there where muslims are now the majority after having immigrated en-masse from another continent a few decades ago and having removed hundreds of thousands of locals, and where some muslims lived before but were a small minority?

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I don't care what religion is in the majority in any country.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't care what religion is in the majority in any country.

Ben gvir does!

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Anonymous wrote:op i'm a jew and i agree with you.
however I do think people are crossing a line into anti semitism now. It's really hard to tell where 'the line' is... for example, we live in nyc and spend time in dutchess county and a local businessman posted this. It feels like a lot of the rhetoric is just getting really extreme...

https://x.com/RobLister9/status/1783907912907190719

That's not anti-Semitic. It's entirely focused on the policies of the country and government of Israel. It's a bit intense and all encompassing but the situation is pretty messed up. People are fed up and want the whole Israel-Palestine blood feud thing to end.

you dont think 'f balfour, f zionism' might be construed as such, seeing as zionism is in part the belief that israel should exist at all?

The problem is not that Israel exists but that others had to be forcibly removed for it to exist, and it would’ve been nice to get that acknowledged once in a while instead the countless stories like “we made the desert bloom”.

What’s the point? Are we asking England, Spain, Portugal, France, Belgium etc to do the same? This is as useful as Chicago calling for a ceasefire. It’s all leftism feel good do nothing.

All expelled from their colonies around the globe. Here is a hint for you, extreme brutality is a sign of end stage for the colonizer.

Jews have no one country to “go back to.” That was the point of the creation of Israel. I can’t believe I have to write this. They are not “white colonizers.” This is just the brain dead, historically illiterate Gen Z attempt to gloss American racial politics onto something far more complicated.

Just because you don't have a country "to go back to", doesn't mean other people have to move to create space for your new country. But by all means, feel free to argue that settlers with Brooklyn accents really are natively connected to Eretz Israel more than a guy called Khaled whose family lived in Yaffa for generations.

I presume you’re Native American, or if not, moving back to wherever your gg grandma immigrated from?

That's a GREAT comparison so let's take it to its logical conclusions:

1. Issue Israeli passports to all Palestinians. Native Americans are American citizens are they not?

2. Acknowledge at every opportunity the great evil done to Native Americans, like the US does today.

3. Lose the fake stories you told for generations, aka "we made the desert bloom".

Proceed, please.

Disagree with your #2 and 3. We've gone backwards in acknowledging US history rather than forwards. And losing "fake" stories about our history helps no one and only tears a country apart. Adding new stories is a possible step, although to date we aren't doing it here yet.

Number 1 will never happen because people with passports can vote and Israel can never allow that many Palestinians to have voting rights. The only solution that Israel will agree to is permanent occupation or ethnic cleansing

Of course. Israel loves to brag about "but we have Arabs!" but works really really hard to keep the Arab numbers as low as possible. They want enough Arabs to pretend to be a multicultural tolerant country but not enough to become a political power. That's not allowed. A Jewish state means Jewish government and a Jewish majority.

How many majority-Jewish countries are there in the world? How many majority-Muslim states are there?

Let me rephrase your question:

How many majority muslim states are there where muslims are now the majority after having immigrated en-masse from another continent a few decades ago and having removed hundreds of thousands of locals, and where some muslims lived before but were a small minority?

Israelis didn't "immigrate" to Israel. It was given to them, partly as penance for WWII and partly to get them out of Europe.

Learn some history, man.

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Anonymous wrote:op i'm a jew and i agree with you.
however I do think people are crossing a line into anti semitism now. It's really hard to tell where 'the line' is... for example, we live in nyc and spend time in dutchess county and a local businessman posted this. It feels like a lot of the rhetoric is just getting really extreme...

https://x.com/RobLister9/status/1783907912907190719

That's not anti-Semitic. It's entirely focused on the policies of the country and government of Israel. It's a bit intense and all encompassing but the situation is pretty messed up. People are fed up and want the whole Israel-Palestine blood feud thing to end.

you dont think 'f balfour, f zionism' might be construed as such, seeing as zionism is in part the belief that israel should exist at all?

The problem is not that Israel exists but that others had to be forcibly removed for it to exist, and it would’ve been nice to get that acknowledged once in a while instead the countless stories like “we made the desert bloom”.

What’s the point? Are we asking England, Spain, Portugal, France, Belgium etc to do the same? This is as useful as Chicago calling for a ceasefire. It’s all leftism feel good do nothing.

All expelled from their colonies around the globe. Here is a hint for you, extreme brutality is a sign of end stage for the colonizer.

Jews have no one country to “go back to.” That was the point of the creation of Israel. I can’t believe I have to write this. They are not “white colonizers.” This is just the brain dead, historically illiterate Gen Z attempt to gloss American racial politics onto something far more complicated.

Just because you don't have a country "to go back to", doesn't mean other people have to move to create space for your new country. But by all means, feel free to argue that settlers with Brooklyn accents really are natively connected to Eretz Israel more than a guy called Khaled whose family lived in Yaffa for generations.

I presume you’re Native American, or if not, moving back to wherever your gg grandma immigrated from?

That's a GREAT comparison so let's take it to its logical conclusions:

1. Issue Israeli passports to all Palestinians. Native Americans are American citizens are they not?

2. Acknowledge at every opportunity the great evil done to Native Americans, like the US does today.

3. Lose the fake stories you told for generations, aka "we made the desert bloom".

Proceed, please.

Disagree with your #2 and 3. We've gone backwards in acknowledging US history rather than forwards. And losing "fake" stories about our history helps no one and only tears a country apart. Adding new stories is a possible step, although to date we aren't doing it here yet.

Number 1 will never happen because people with passports can vote and Israel can never allow that many Palestinians to have voting rights. The only solution that Israel will agree to is permanent occupation or ethnic cleansing

Of course. Israel loves to brag about "but we have Arabs!" but works really really hard to keep the Arab numbers as low as possible. They want enough Arabs to pretend to be a multicultural tolerant country but not enough to become a political power. That's not allowed. A Jewish state means Jewish government and a Jewish majority.

How many majority-Jewish countries are there in the world? How many majority-Muslim states are there?

Who TF cares? Jews (and I'm intentionally using this term as expansively as possible) comprise less than 16M people worldwide. Muslims apparently comprise 1.9B.

There are 119 Muslims for every Jewish person. The number of Muslim-majority countries isn't even close to that figure (there are less than 50 Muslim-majority countries, most of which are tiny like Israel). So your question doesn't make the point you think it does.

In fact, there are 40 - 45M Kurds across the globe. Where's their country? Seems like, based on your logic, they are more deserving of a country than the Jewish community.

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Anonymous wrote:op i'm a jew and i agree with you.
however I do think people are crossing a line into anti semitism now. It's really hard to tell where 'the line' is... for example, we live in nyc and spend time in dutchess county and a local businessman posted this. It feels like a lot of the rhetoric is just getting really extreme...

https://x.com/RobLister9/status/1783907912907190719

That's not anti-Semitic. It's entirely focused on the policies of the country and government of Israel. It's a bit intense and all encompassing but the situation is pretty messed up. People are fed up and want the whole Israel-Palestine blood feud thing to end.

you dont think 'f balfour, f zionism' might be construed as such, seeing as zionism is in part the belief that israel should exist at all?

The problem is not that Israel exists but that others had to be forcibly removed for it to exist, and it would’ve been nice to get that acknowledged once in a while instead the countless stories like “we made the desert bloom”.

What’s the point? Are we asking England, Spain, Portugal, France, Belgium etc to do the same? This is as useful as Chicago calling for a ceasefire. It’s all leftism feel good do nothing.

All expelled from their colonies around the globe. Here is a hint for you, extreme brutality is a sign of end stage for the colonizer.

Jews have no one country to “go back to.” That was the point of the creation of Israel. I can’t believe I have to write this. They are not “white colonizers.” This is just the brain dead, historically illiterate Gen Z attempt to gloss American racial politics onto something far more complicated.

Just because you don't have a country "to go back to", doesn't mean other people have to move to create space for your new country. But by all means, feel free to argue that settlers with Brooklyn accents really are natively connected to Eretz Israel more than a guy called Khaled whose family lived in Yaffa for generations.

I presume you’re Native American, or if not, moving back to wherever your gg grandma immigrated from?

That's a GREAT comparison so let's take it to its logical conclusions:

1. Issue Israeli passports to all Palestinians. Native Americans are American citizens are they not?

2. Acknowledge at every opportunity the great evil done to Native Americans, like the US does today.

3. Lose the fake stories you told for generations, aka "we made the desert bloom".

Proceed, please.

Disagree with your #2 and 3. We've gone backwards in acknowledging US history rather than forwards. And losing "fake" stories about our history helps no one and only tears a country apart. Adding new stories is a possible step, although to date we aren't doing it here yet.

Number 1 will never happen because people with passports can vote and Israel can never allow that many Palestinians to have voting rights. The only solution that Israel will agree to is permanent occupation or ethnic cleansing

Of course. Israel loves to brag about "but we have Arabs!" but works really really hard to keep the Arab numbers as low as possible. They want enough Arabs to pretend to be a multicultural tolerant country but not enough to become a political power. That's not allowed. A Jewish state means Jewish government and a Jewish majority.

How many majority-Jewish countries are there in the world? How many majority-Muslim states are there?

Let me rephrase your question:

How many majority muslim states are there where muslims are now the majority after having immigrated en-masse from another continent a few decades ago and having removed hundreds of thousands of locals, and where some muslims lived before but were a small minority?

Israelis didn't "immigrate" to Israel. It was given to them, partly as penance for WWII and partly to get them out of Europe.

Learn some history, man.

Learn how immigration works, man. Over 90% of current Israelis (or the ancestors) immigrated to Israel since the state inception. That makes them immigrants.

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Anonymous wrote:op i'm a jew and i agree with you.
however I do think people are crossing a line into anti semitism now. It's really hard to tell where 'the line' is... for example, we live in nyc and spend time in dutchess county and a local businessman posted this. It feels like a lot of the rhetoric is just getting really extreme...

https://x.com/RobLister9/status/1783907912907190719

That's not anti-Semitic. It's entirely focused on the policies of the country and government of Israel. It's a bit intense and all encompassing but the situation is pretty messed up. People are fed up and want the whole Israel-Palestine blood feud thing to end.

you dont think 'f balfour, f zionism' might be construed as such, seeing as zionism is in part the belief that israel should exist at all?

The problem is not that Israel exists but that others had to be forcibly removed for it to exist, and it would’ve been nice to get that acknowledged once in a while instead the countless stories like “we made the desert bloom”.

What’s the point? Are we asking England, Spain, Portugal, France, Belgium etc to do the same? This is as useful as Chicago calling for a ceasefire. It’s all leftism feel good do nothing.

All expelled from their colonies around the globe. Here is a hint for you, extreme brutality is a sign of end stage for the colonizer.

Jews have no one country to “go back to.” That was the point of the creation of Israel. I can’t believe I have to write this. They are not “white colonizers.” This is just the brain dead, historically illiterate Gen Z attempt to gloss American racial politics onto something far more complicated.

Just because you don't have a country "to go back to", doesn't mean other people have to move to create space for your new country. But by all means, feel free to argue that settlers with Brooklyn accents really are natively connected to Eretz Israel more than a guy called Khaled whose family lived in Yaffa for generations.

I presume you’re Native American, or if not, moving back to wherever your gg grandma immigrated from?

That's a GREAT comparison so let's take it to its logical conclusions:

1. Issue Israeli passports to all Palestinians. Native Americans are American citizens are they not?

2. Acknowledge at every opportunity the great evil done to Native Americans, like the US does today.

3. Lose the fake stories you told for generations, aka "we made the desert bloom".

Proceed, please.

Disagree with your #2 and 3. We've gone backwards in acknowledging US history rather than forwards. And losing "fake" stories about our history helps no one and only tears a country apart. Adding new stories is a possible step, although to date we aren't doing it here yet.

Number 1 will never happen because people with passports can vote and Israel can never allow that many Palestinians to have voting rights. The only solution that Israel will agree to is permanent occupation or ethnic cleansing

Of course. Israel loves to brag about "but we have Arabs!" but works really really hard to keep the Arab numbers as low as possible. They want enough Arabs to pretend to be a multicultural tolerant country but not enough to become a political power. That's not allowed. A Jewish state means Jewish government and a Jewish majority.

How many majority-Jewish countries are there in the world? How many majority-Muslim states are there?

Who TF cares? Jews (and I'm intentionally using this term as expansively as possible) comprise less than 16M people worldwide. Muslims apparently comprise 1.9B.

There are 119 Muslims for every Jewish person. The number of Muslim-majority countries isn't even close to that figure (there are less than 50 Muslim-majority countries, most of which are tiny like Israel). So your question doesn't make the point you think it does.

In fact, there are 40 - 45M Kurds across the globe. Where's their country? Seems like, based on your logic, they are more deserving of a country than the Jewish community.

I am going to guess you think everyone is deserving of a country more than Jews.

By the way - Jews being such a small minority, is why we need a homeland. And it's a tiny one. Less than the size of New Jersey.

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Democrats threatening Jewish people was totally predictable

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Anonymous wrote:op i'm a jew and i agree with you.
however I do think people are crossing a line into anti semitism now. It's really hard to tell where 'the line' is... for example, we live in nyc and spend time in dutchess county and a local businessman posted this. It feels like a lot of the rhetoric is just getting really extreme...

https://x.com/RobLister9/status/1783907912907190719

That's not anti-Semitic. It's entirely focused on the policies of the country and government of Israel. It's a bit intense and all encompassing but the situation is pretty messed up. People are fed up and want the whole Israel-Palestine blood feud thing to end.

you dont think 'f balfour, f zionism' might be construed as such, seeing as zionism is in part the belief that israel should exist at all?

The problem is not that Israel exists but that others had to be forcibly removed for it to exist, and it would’ve been nice to get that acknowledged once in a while instead the countless stories like “we made the desert bloom”.

What’s the point? Are we asking England, Spain, Portugal, France, Belgium etc to do the same? This is as useful as Chicago calling for a ceasefire. It’s all leftism feel good do nothing.

All expelled from their colonies around the globe. Here is a hint for you, extreme brutality is a sign of end stage for the colonizer.

Jews have no one country to “go back to.” That was the point of the creation of Israel. I can’t believe I have to write this. They are not “white colonizers.” This is just the brain dead, historically illiterate Gen Z attempt to gloss American racial politics onto something far more complicated.

Just because you don't have a country "to go back to", doesn't mean other people have to move to create space for your new country. But by all means, feel free to argue that settlers with Brooklyn accents really are natively connected to Eretz Israel more than a guy called Khaled whose family lived in Yaffa for generations.

I presume you’re Native American, or if not, moving back to wherever your gg grandma immigrated from?

That's a GREAT comparison so let's take it to its logical conclusions:

1. Issue Israeli passports to all Palestinians. Native Americans are American citizens are they not?

2. Acknowledge at every opportunity the great evil done to Native Americans, like the US does today.

3. Lose the fake stories you told for generations, aka "we made the desert bloom".

Proceed, please.

Disagree with your #2 and 3. We've gone backwards in acknowledging US history rather than forwards. And losing "fake" stories about our history helps no one and only tears a country apart. Adding new stories is a possible step, although to date we aren't doing it here yet.

Number 1 will never happen because people with passports can vote and Israel can never allow that many Palestinians to have voting rights. The only solution that Israel will agree to is permanent occupation or ethnic cleansing

Of course. Israel loves to brag about "but we have Arabs!" but works really really hard to keep the Arab numbers as low as possible. They want enough Arabs to pretend to be a multicultural tolerant country but not enough to become a political power. That's not allowed. A Jewish state means Jewish government and a Jewish majority.

How many majority-Jewish countries are there in the world? How many majority-Muslim states are there?

Who TF cares? Jews (and I'm intentionally using this term as expansively as possible) comprise less than 16M people worldwide. Muslims apparently comprise 1.9B.

There are 119 Muslims for every Jewish person. The number of Muslim-majority countries isn't even close to that figure (there are less than 50 Muslim-majority countries, most of which are tiny like Israel). So your question doesn't make the point you think it does.

In fact, there are 40 - 45M Kurds across the globe. Where's their country? Seems like, based on your logic, they are more deserving of a country than the Jewish community.

I am going to guess you think everyone is deserving of a country more than Jews.

By the way - Jews being such a small minority, is why we need a homeland. And it's a tiny one. Less than the size of New Jersey.

Nobody is "deserving" of a country. And there's no point in responding to your guess since, as someone presumably identifying yourself as a Zionist, I already know that you believe that Jews "deserve" a country before anyone else, and that Jews should be at the front of the line for every privilege imaginable. Part of the ol' Chosen People fairytale.

Besides - at worst, any view that everyone is "deserving" of a country more than Jews is no worse than a nullification of your racist, entitled view of the world.

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Anonymous wrote:op i'm a jew and i agree with you.
however I do think people are crossing a line into anti semitism now. It's really hard to tell where 'the line' is... for example, we live in nyc and spend time in dutchess county and a local businessman posted this. It feels like a lot of the rhetoric is just getting really extreme...

https://x.com/RobLister9/status/1783907912907190719

That's not anti-Semitic. It's entirely focused on the policies of the country and government of Israel. It's a bit intense and all encompassing but the situation is pretty messed up. People are fed up and want the whole Israel-Palestine blood feud thing to end.

you dont think 'f balfour, f zionism' might be construed as such, seeing as zionism is in part the belief that israel should exist at all?

The problem is not that Israel exists but that others had to be forcibly removed for it to exist, and it would’ve been nice to get that acknowledged once in a while instead the countless stories like “we made the desert bloom”.

What’s the point? Are we asking England, Spain, Portugal, France, Belgium etc to do the same? This is as useful as Chicago calling for a ceasefire. It’s all leftism feel good do nothing.

All expelled from their colonies around the globe. Here is a hint for you, extreme brutality is a sign of end stage for the colonizer.

Jews have no one country to “go back to.” That was the point of the creation of Israel. I can’t believe I have to write this. They are not “white colonizers.” This is just the brain dead, historically illiterate Gen Z attempt to gloss American racial politics onto something far more complicated.

Just because you don't have a country "to go back to", doesn't mean other people have to move to create space for your new country. But by all means, feel free to argue that settlers with Brooklyn accents really are natively connected to Eretz Israel more than a guy called Khaled whose family lived in Yaffa for generations.

I presume you’re Native American, or if not, moving back to wherever your gg grandma immigrated from?

That's a GREAT comparison so let's take it to its logical conclusions:

1. Issue Israeli passports to all Palestinians. Native Americans are American citizens are they not?

2. Acknowledge at every opportunity the great evil done to Native Americans, like the US does today.

3. Lose the fake stories you told for generations, aka "we made the desert bloom".

Proceed, please.

Disagree with your #2 and 3. We've gone backwards in acknowledging US history rather than forwards. And losing "fake" stories about our history helps no one and only tears a country apart. Adding new stories is a possible step, although to date we aren't doing it here yet.

Number 1 will never happen because people with passports can vote and Israel can never allow that many Palestinians to have voting rights. The only solution that Israel will agree to is permanent occupation or ethnic cleansing

Of course. Israel loves to brag about "but we have Arabs!" but works really really hard to keep the Arab numbers as low as possible. They want enough Arabs to pretend to be a multicultural tolerant country but not enough to become a political power. That's not allowed. A Jewish state means Jewish government and a Jewish majority.

How many majority-Jewish countries are there in the world? How many majority-Muslim states are there?

Who TF cares? Jews (and I'm intentionally using this term as expansively as possible) comprise less than 16M people worldwide. Muslims apparently comprise 1.9B.

There are 119 Muslims for every Jewish person. The number of Muslim-majority countries isn't even close to that figure (there are less than 50 Muslim-majority countries, most of which are tiny like Israel). So your question doesn't make the point you think it does.

In fact, there are 40 - 45M Kurds across the globe. Where's their country? Seems like, based on your logic, they are more deserving of a country than the Jewish community.

I am going to guess you think everyone is deserving of a country more than Jews.

By the way - Jews being such a small minority, is why we need a homeland. And it's a tiny one. Less than the size of New Jersey.

Nobody is "deserving" of a country. And there's no point in responding to your guess since, as someone presumably identifying yourself as a Zionist, I already know that you believe that Jews "deserve" a country before anyone else, and that Jews should be at the front of the line for every privilege imaginable. Part of the ol' Chosen People fairytale.

Besides - at worst, any view that everyone is "deserving" of a country more than Jews is no worse than a nullification of your racist, entitled view of the world.

lots of jargon there, not a lot of serious thought

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Anonymous wrote:op i'm a jew and i agree with you.
however I do think people are crossing a line into anti semitism now. It's really hard to tell where 'the line' is... for example, we live in nyc and spend time in dutchess county and a local businessman posted this. It feels like a lot of the rhetoric is just getting really extreme...

https://x.com/RobLister9/status/1783907912907190719

That's not anti-Semitic. It's entirely focused on the policies of the country and government of Israel. It's a bit intense and all encompassing but the situation is pretty messed up. People are fed up and want the whole Israel-Palestine blood feud thing to end.

you dont think 'f balfour, f zionism' might be construed as such, seeing as zionism is in part the belief that israel should exist at all?

The problem is not that Israel exists but that others had to be forcibly removed for it to exist, and it would’ve been nice to get that acknowledged once in a while instead the countless stories like “we made the desert bloom”.

What’s the point? Are we asking England, Spain, Portugal, France, Belgium etc to do the same? This is as useful as Chicago calling for a ceasefire. It’s all leftism feel good do nothing.

All expelled from their colonies around the globe. Here is a hint for you, extreme brutality is a sign of end stage for the colonizer.

Jews have no one country to “go back to.” That was the point of the creation of Israel. I can’t believe I have to write this. They are not “white colonizers.” This is just the brain dead, historically illiterate Gen Z attempt to gloss American racial politics onto something far more complicated.

Just because you don't have a country "to go back to", doesn't mean other people have to move to create space for your new country. But by all means, feel free to argue that settlers with Brooklyn accents really are natively connected to Eretz Israel more than a guy called Khaled whose family lived in Yaffa for generations.

I presume you’re Native American, or if not, moving back to wherever your gg grandma immigrated from?

That's a GREAT comparison so let's take it to its logical conclusions:

1. Issue Israeli passports to all Palestinians. Native Americans are American citizens are they not?

2. Acknowledge at every opportunity the great evil done to Native Americans, like the US does today.

3. Lose the fake stories you told for generations, aka "we made the desert bloom".

Proceed, please.

Disagree with your #2 and 3. We've gone backwards in acknowledging US history rather than forwards. And losing "fake" stories about our history helps no one and only tears a country apart. Adding new stories is a possible step, although to date we aren't doing it here yet.

Number 1 will never happen because people with passports can vote and Israel can never allow that many Palestinians to have voting rights. The only solution that Israel will agree to is permanent occupation or ethnic cleansing

Of course. Israel loves to brag about "but we have Arabs!" but works really really hard to keep the Arab numbers as low as possible. They want enough Arabs to pretend to be a multicultural tolerant country but not enough to become a political power. That's not allowed. A Jewish state means Jewish government and a Jewish majority.

How many majority-Jewish countries are there in the world? How many majority-Muslim states are there?

Who TF cares? Jews (and I'm intentionally using this term as expansively as possible) comprise less than 16M people worldwide. Muslims apparently comprise 1.9B.

There are 119 Muslims for every Jewish person. The number of Muslim-majority countries isn't even close to that figure (there are less than 50 Muslim-majority countries, most of which are tiny like Israel). So your question doesn't make the point you think it does.

In fact, there are 40 - 45M Kurds across the globe. Where's their country? Seems like, based on your logic, they are more deserving of a country than the Jewish community.

I am going to guess you think everyone is deserving of a country more than Jews.

By the way - Jews being such a small minority, is why we need a homeland. And it's a tiny one. Less than the size of New Jersey.

By the way, one of the few things that's more bothersome than the inherent racism and entitlement within Zionism is the fact that so many people, like you, believe that a separate country was the only way to ensure that Jewish people would be able to live safely. I wouldn't have believed that. Even if I had believed it, the only solution that would have made sense at the time would have been directly and forcefully addressing the conditions that supposedly led to those safety concerns, wherever they existed.

Jews should not have been partially segregated, and certainly not in land that was already occupied. That partial segregation has intensified the sense of entitlement and the racism that were bound to flower through Zionism following WWII.

Bottom line, the opportunity to subjugate and viciously dominate another group was too tempting after the horrors of the war.

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Left wing Jews support things like this thread and attacking Netanyahu because he is a right-wing leader. They want to be in agreement with their fellow left-wingers, except for that pesky little detail about their right to exist.

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Anonymous wrote:op i'm a jew and i agree with you.
however I do think people are crossing a line into anti semitism now. It's really hard to tell where 'the line' is... for example, we live in nyc and spend time in dutchess county and a local businessman posted this. It feels like a lot of the rhetoric is just getting really extreme...

https://x.com/RobLister9/status/1783907912907190719

That's not anti-Semitic. It's entirely focused on the policies of the country and government of Israel. It's a bit intense and all encompassing but the situation is pretty messed up. People are fed up and want the whole Israel-Palestine blood feud thing to end.

you dont think 'f balfour, f zionism' might be construed as such, seeing as zionism is in part the belief that israel should exist at all?

The problem is not that Israel exists but that others had to be forcibly removed for it to exist, and it would’ve been nice to get that acknowledged once in a while instead the countless stories like “we made the desert bloom”.

What’s the point? Are we asking England, Spain, Portugal, France, Belgium etc to do the same? This is as useful as Chicago calling for a ceasefire. It’s all leftism feel good do nothing.

All expelled from their colonies around the globe. Here is a hint for you, extreme brutality is a sign of end stage for the colonizer.

Jews have no one country to “go back to.” That was the point of the creation of Israel. I can’t believe I have to write this. They are not “white colonizers.” This is just the brain dead, historically illiterate Gen Z attempt to gloss American racial politics onto something far more complicated.

Just because you don't have a country "to go back to", doesn't mean other people have to move to create space for your new country. But by all means, feel free to argue that settlers with Brooklyn accents really are natively connected to Eretz Israel more than a guy called Khaled whose family lived in Yaffa for generations.

I presume you’re Native American, or if not, moving back to wherever your gg grandma immigrated from?

That's a GREAT comparison so let's take it to its logical conclusions:

1. Issue Israeli passports to all Palestinians. Native Americans are American citizens are they not?

2. Acknowledge at every opportunity the great evil done to Native Americans, like the US does today.

3. Lose the fake stories you told for generations, aka "we made the desert bloom".

Proceed, please.

Disagree with your #2 and 3. We've gone backwards in acknowledging US history rather than forwards. And losing "fake" stories about our history helps no one and only tears a country apart. Adding new stories is a possible step, although to date we aren't doing it here yet.

Number 1 will never happen because people with passports can vote and Israel can never allow that many Palestinians to have voting rights. The only solution that Israel will agree to is permanent occupation or ethnic cleansing

Of course. Israel loves to brag about "but we have Arabs!" but works really really hard to keep the Arab numbers as low as possible. They want enough Arabs to pretend to be a multicultural tolerant country but not enough to become a political power. That's not allowed. A Jewish state means Jewish government and a Jewish majority.

How many majority-Jewish countries are there in the world? How many majority-Muslim states are there?

Who TF cares? Jews (and I'm intentionally using this term as expansively as possible) comprise less than 16M people worldwide. Muslims apparently comprise 1.9B.

There are 119 Muslims for every Jewish person. The number of Muslim-majority countries isn't even close to that figure (there are less than 50 Muslim-majority countries, most of which are tiny like Israel). So your question doesn't make the point you think it does.

In fact, there are 40 - 45M Kurds across the globe. Where's their country? Seems like, based on your logic, they are more deserving of a country than the Jewish community.

I am going to guess you think everyone is deserving of a country more than Jews.

By the way - Jews being such a small minority, is why we need a homeland. And it's a tiny one. Less than the size of New Jersey.

Nobody is "deserving" of a country. And there's no point in responding to your guess since, as someone presumably identifying yourself as a Zionist, I already know that you believe that Jews "deserve" a country before anyone else, and that Jews should be at the front of the line for every privilege imaginable. Part of the ol' Chosen People fairytale.

Besides - at worst, any view that everyone is "deserving" of a country more than Jews is no worse than a nullification of your racist, entitled view of the world.

lots of jargon there, not a lot of serious thought

I know - everyone expressing opposition to Zionist propaganda is not as smart, not a serious thinker, an idiot, and basically inferior to those stellar Zionist thought leaders. Your tactics are as boring and tired as they are age-old and, frankly, embarrassing.

Back here in reality, you responded with that boring, tired schtick to something that was direct and to the point.

Nobody deserves a country. Even if you believe that a country can be deserved, you would obviously make the case that Jews deserve the first bite at the apple. And for that reason, even if thug accusation you made about me is true (i.e., that I would rank order Jewish statehood at the bottom of my list), that would make me no worse than you.

But, no - lots of jargon (do you know what that word actually means?) and "not a lot of serious thought". Just ugh. Honestly, those like you make it nearly impossible to experience sympathetic feelings for anyone like you.

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Anonymous wrote:op i'm a jew and i agree with you.
however I do think people are crossing a line into anti semitism now. It's really hard to tell where 'the line' is... for example, we live in nyc and spend time in dutchess county and a local businessman posted this. It feels like a lot of the rhetoric is just getting really extreme...

https://x.com/RobLister9/status/1783907912907190719

That's not anti-Semitic. It's entirely focused on the policies of the country and government of Israel. It's a bit intense and all encompassing but the situation is pretty messed up. People are fed up and want the whole Israel-Palestine blood feud thing to end.

you dont think 'f balfour, f zionism' might be construed as such, seeing as zionism is in part the belief that israel should exist at all?

The problem is not that Israel exists but that others had to be forcibly removed for it to exist, and it would’ve been nice to get that acknowledged once in a while instead the countless stories like “we made the desert bloom”.

What’s the point? Are we asking England, Spain, Portugal, France, Belgium etc to do the same? This is as useful as Chicago calling for a ceasefire. It’s all leftism feel good do nothing.

All expelled from their colonies around the globe. Here is a hint for you, extreme brutality is a sign of end stage for the colonizer.

Jews have no one country to “go back to.” That was the point of the creation of Israel. I can’t believe I have to write this. They are not “white colonizers.” This is just the brain dead, historically illiterate Gen Z attempt to gloss American racial politics onto something far more complicated.

Just because you don't have a country "to go back to", doesn't mean other people have to move to create space for your new country. But by all means, feel free to argue that settlers with Brooklyn accents really are natively connected to Eretz Israel more than a guy called Khaled whose family lived in Yaffa for generations.

I presume you’re Native American, or if not, moving back to wherever your gg grandma immigrated from?

That's a GREAT comparison so let's take it to its logical conclusions:

1. Issue Israeli passports to all Palestinians. Native Americans are American citizens are they not?

2. Acknowledge at every opportunity the great evil done to Native Americans, like the US does today.

3. Lose the fake stories you told for generations, aka "we made the desert bloom".

Proceed, please.

Disagree with your #2 and 3. We've gone backwards in acknowledging US history rather than forwards. And losing "fake" stories about our history helps no one and only tears a country apart. Adding new stories is a possible step, although to date we aren't doing it here yet.

Number 1 will never happen because people with passports can vote and Israel can never allow that many Palestinians to have voting rights. The only solution that Israel will agree to is permanent occupation or ethnic cleansing

Of course. Israel loves to brag about "but we have Arabs!" but works really really hard to keep the Arab numbers as low as possible. They want enough Arabs to pretend to be a multicultural tolerant country but not enough to become a political power. That's not allowed. A Jewish state means Jewish government and a Jewish majority.

How many majority-Jewish countries are there in the world? How many majority-Muslim states are there?

Who TF cares? Jews (and I'm intentionally using this term as expansively as possible) comprise less than 16M people worldwide. Muslims apparently comprise 1.9B.

There are 119 Muslims for every Jewish person. The number of Muslim-majority countries isn't even close to that figure (there are less than 50 Muslim-majority countries, most of which are tiny like Israel). So your question doesn't make the point you think it does.

In fact, there are 40 - 45M Kurds across the globe. Where's their country? Seems like, based on your logic, they are more deserving of a country than the Jewish community.

I am going to guess you think everyone is deserving of a country more than Jews.

By the way - Jews being such a small minority, is why we need a homeland. And it's a tiny one. Less than the size of New Jersey.

Nobody is "deserving" of a country. And there's no point in responding to your guess since, as someone presumably identifying yourself as a Zionist, I already know that you believe that Jews "deserve" a country before anyone else, and that Jews should be at the front of the line for every privilege imaginable. Part of the ol' Chosen People fairytale.

Besides - at worst, any view that everyone is "deserving" of a country more than Jews is no worse than a nullification of your racist, entitled view of the world.

lots of jargon there, not a lot of serious thought

I know - everyone expressing opposition to Zionist propaganda is not as smart, not a serious thinker, an idiot, and basically inferior to those stellar Zionist thought leaders. Your tactics are as boring and tired as they are age-old and, frankly, embarrassing.

Back here in reality, you responded with that boring, tired schtick to something that was direct and to the point.

Nobody deserves a country. Even if you believe that a country can be deserved, you would obviously make the case that Jews deserve the first bite at the apple. And for that reason, even if thug accusation you made about me is true (i.e., that I would rank order Jewish statehood at the bottom of my list), that would make me no worse than you.

But, no - lots of jargon (do you know what that word actually means?) and "not a lot of serious thought". Just ugh. Honestly, those like you make it nearly impossible to experience sympathetic feelings for anyone like you.

DP. Who deserves a country? Anyone who can take and keep it. So far, that includes us, Israel, and Britain. But does not include Palestine or Crimea.

Did Israel take their country post-WWII? No, it was given to them, but they have held it since then. Has it been the best thing that could have happened to them? Maybe, maybe not. But they have held it, despite hostile neighbors.