Anti-war crime does not equal anti-Semitic

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Anonymous wrote:op i'm a jew and i agree with you.
however I do think people are crossing a line into anti semitism now. It's really hard to tell where 'the line' is... for example, we live in nyc and spend time in dutchess county and a local businessman posted this. It feels like a lot of the rhetoric is just getting really extreme...

https://x.com/RobLister9/status/1783907912907190719

That's not anti-Semitic. It's entirely focused on the policies of the country and government of Israel. It's a bit intense and all encompassing but the situation is pretty messed up. People are fed up and want the whole Israel-Palestine blood feud thing to end.

you dont think 'f balfour, f zionism' might be construed as such, seeing as zionism is in part the belief that israel should exist at all?

The problem is not that Israel exists but that others had to be forcibly removed for it to exist, and it would’ve been nice to get that acknowledged once in a while instead the countless stories like “we made the desert bloom”.

What’s the point? Are we asking England, Spain, Portugal, France, Belgium etc to do the same? This is as useful as Chicago calling for a ceasefire. It’s all leftism feel good do nothing.

All expelled from their colonies around the globe. Here is a hint for you, extreme brutality is a sign of end stage for the colonizer.

Jews have no one country to “go back to.” That was the point of the creation of Israel. I can’t believe I have to write this. They are not “white colonizers.” This is just the brain dead, historically illiterate Gen Z attempt to gloss American racial politics onto something far more complicated.

Just because you don't have a country "to go back to", doesn't mean other people have to move to create space for your new country. But by all means, feel free to argue that settlers with Brooklyn accents really are natively connected to Eretz Israel more than a guy called Khaled whose family lived in Yaffa for generations.

I presume you’re Native American, or if not, moving back to wherever your gg grandma immigrated from?

That's a GREAT comparison so let's take it to its logical conclusions:

1. Issue Israeli passports to all Palestinians. Native Americans are American citizens are they not?

2. Acknowledge at every opportunity the great evil done to Native Americans, like the US does today.

3. Lose the fake stories you told for generations, aka "we made the desert bloom".

Proceed, please.

Disagree with your #2 and 3. We've gone backwards in acknowledging US history rather than forwards. And losing "fake" stories about our history helps no one and only tears a country apart. Adding new stories is a possible step, although to date we aren't doing it here yet.

Number 1 will never happen because people with passports can vote and Israel can never allow that many Palestinians to have voting rights. The only solution that Israel will agree to is permanent occupation or ethnic cleansing

Of course. Israel loves to brag about "but we have Arabs!" but works really really hard to keep the Arab numbers as low as possible. They want enough Arabs to pretend to be a multicultural tolerant country but not enough to become a political power. That's not allowed. A Jewish state means Jewish government and a Jewish majority.

How many majority-Jewish countries are there in the world? How many majority-Muslim states are there?

Who TF cares? Jews (and I'm intentionally using this term as expansively as possible) comprise less than 16M people worldwide. Muslims apparently comprise 1.9B.

There are 119 Muslims for every Jewish person. The number of Muslim-majority countries isn't even close to that figure (there are less than 50 Muslim-majority countries, most of which are tiny like Israel). So your question doesn't make the point you think it does.

In fact, there are 40 - 45M Kurds across the globe. Where's their country? Seems like, based on your logic, they are more deserving of a country than the Jewish community.

I am going to guess you think everyone is deserving of a country more than Jews.

By the way - Jews being such a small minority, is why we need a homeland. And it's a tiny one. Less than the size of New Jersey.

Nobody is "deserving" of a country. And there's no point in responding to your guess since, as someone presumably identifying yourself as a Zionist, I already know that you believe that Jews "deserve" a country before anyone else, and that Jews should be at the front of the line for every privilege imaginable. Part of the ol' Chosen People fairytale.

Besides - at worst, any view that everyone is "deserving" of a country more than Jews is no worse than a nullification of your racist, entitled view of the world.

To be frank, Hamas wouldn’t know what to do with a country if they got one. And that’s not their actual goal. They just want to kill Jews. That’s their stated goal in life. Truth.

Hopefully you can forgive non-Jews for rolling their eyes at that persistent propaganda (the only goal of Hamas is to kill Jews!) considering the fact that you have told the world repeatedly, for centuries, that this group wants to kill Jews, and then that group wants to kill Jews, and then this other group wants to kill Jews, but also you have yet another group that wants to kill Jews, ad infinitum. All of Israel's neighbors are trying to kill Jews. The U.N. is trying to kill Jews. The Vatican is trying to kill Jews. Hell, even the Irish (the Irish, FFS!) are trying to get in on the act of killing Jews.

Seriously - have you encountered any other group that you think doesn't want to kill Jews?

Who are you talking to, hon, the auditory hallucinations that you hear? I’ve only written anything about Hamas.

To be frank, Hamas wouldn’t know what to do with a country if they got one. And that’s not their actual goal. They just want to kill Jews. That’s their stated goal in life. Truth.

Tell me again about the auditory hallucinations? You said that the "stated goal in life" was "to kill Jews".

I mocked you by pointing out that the same people who make that propagandist false claim are Boys who cry Wolf because they claim that everyone tries to kill them. So why should anyone take your propaganda and existential horse manure seriously, hon?

They killed over 1000 Jews six months ago, to widespread celebration.

Israel has done 30-35x that, and continues to, to not only widespread celebration, but cheers in the Knesset. The highest levels of Israeli government are actually rejoicing at the genocide being committed in their name. Ben Gbir, Smotrich, etc. Meanwhile, in the settler communities that Israeli refuses to contain, in violation of international law, hundreds of thousands of settlers like Daniella Weiss are cackling as I type this … boy, you are one sad sack hypocrite!

What happened before 10/7? Rockets fired into Israel. And what happened before that? Rockets fired into Israel. And what happened before that? Rockets fired into Israel.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_rocket_attacks_on_Israel

And before that, suicide bombers.

But you think that Israels' response is disproportionate. Disproportionate to what?

What is the ratio of Israelis killed by Palestinians to Palestinians killed by Israelis since 1948?

Disproportionate doesn’t begin to describe how one-sided the abuse has been in this conflict …

DP. Casualty numbers sure seem like a silly way to determine which side is wrong. See, e.g., WW2.

When one neighbor kills their neighbors over 75 years at a ratio of at least several dozen : 1, I think it’s reasonable to draw some conclusions regarding “blame” in that conflict.

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Anonymous wrote:op i'm a jew and i agree with you.
however I do think people are crossing a line into anti semitism now. It's really hard to tell where 'the line' is... for example, we live in nyc and spend time in dutchess county and a local businessman posted this. It feels like a lot of the rhetoric is just getting really extreme...

https://x.com/RobLister9/status/1783907912907190719

That's not anti-Semitic. It's entirely focused on the policies of the country and government of Israel. It's a bit intense and all encompassing but the situation is pretty messed up. People are fed up and want the whole Israel-Palestine blood feud thing to end.

you dont think 'f balfour, f zionism' might be construed as such, seeing as zionism is in part the belief that israel should exist at all?

The problem is not that Israel exists but that others had to be forcibly removed for it to exist, and it would’ve been nice to get that acknowledged once in a while instead the countless stories like “we made the desert bloom”.

What’s the point? Are we asking England, Spain, Portugal, France, Belgium etc to do the same? This is as useful as Chicago calling for a ceasefire. It’s all leftism feel good do nothing.

All expelled from their colonies around the globe. Here is a hint for you, extreme brutality is a sign of end stage for the colonizer.

Jews have no one country to “go back to.” That was the point of the creation of Israel. I can’t believe I have to write this. They are not “white colonizers.” This is just the brain dead, historically illiterate Gen Z attempt to gloss American racial politics onto something far more complicated.

Just because you don't have a country "to go back to", doesn't mean other people have to move to create space for your new country. But by all means, feel free to argue that settlers with Brooklyn accents really are natively connected to Eretz Israel more than a guy called Khaled whose family lived in Yaffa for generations.

I presume you’re Native American, or if not, moving back to wherever your gg grandma immigrated from?

That's a GREAT comparison so let's take it to its logical conclusions:

1. Issue Israeli passports to all Palestinians. Native Americans are American citizens are they not?

2. Acknowledge at every opportunity the great evil done to Native Americans, like the US does today.

3. Lose the fake stories you told for generations, aka "we made the desert bloom".

Proceed, please.

Disagree with your #2 and 3. We've gone backwards in acknowledging US history rather than forwards. And losing "fake" stories about our history helps no one and only tears a country apart. Adding new stories is a possible step, although to date we aren't doing it here yet.

Number 1 will never happen because people with passports can vote and Israel can never allow that many Palestinians to have voting rights. The only solution that Israel will agree to is permanent occupation or ethnic cleansing

Of course. Israel loves to brag about "but we have Arabs!" but works really really hard to keep the Arab numbers as low as possible. They want enough Arabs to pretend to be a multicultural tolerant country but not enough to become a political power. That's not allowed. A Jewish state means Jewish government and a Jewish majority.

How many majority-Jewish countries are there in the world? How many majority-Muslim states are there?

Who TF cares? Jews (and I'm intentionally using this term as expansively as possible) comprise less than 16M people worldwide. Muslims apparently comprise 1.9B.

There are 119 Muslims for every Jewish person. The number of Muslim-majority countries isn't even close to that figure (there are less than 50 Muslim-majority countries, most of which are tiny like Israel). So your question doesn't make the point you think it does.

In fact, there are 40 - 45M Kurds across the globe. Where's their country? Seems like, based on your logic, they are more deserving of a country than the Jewish community.

I am going to guess you think everyone is deserving of a country more than Jews.

By the way - Jews being such a small minority, is why we need a homeland. And it's a tiny one. Less than the size of New Jersey.

Nobody is "deserving" of a country. And there's no point in responding to your guess since, as someone presumably identifying yourself as a Zionist, I already know that you believe that Jews "deserve" a country before anyone else, and that Jews should be at the front of the line for every privilege imaginable. Part of the ol' Chosen People fairytale.

Besides - at worst, any view that everyone is "deserving" of a country more than Jews is no worse than a nullification of your racist, entitled view of the world.

To be frank, Hamas wouldn’t know what to do with a country if they got one. And that’s not their actual goal. They just want to kill Jews. That’s their stated goal in life. Truth.

Hopefully you can forgive non-Jews for rolling their eyes at that persistent propaganda (the only goal of Hamas is to kill Jews!) considering the fact that you have told the world repeatedly, for centuries, that this group wants to kill Jews, and then that group wants to kill Jews, and then this other group wants to kill Jews, but also you have yet another group that wants to kill Jews, ad infinitum. All of Israel's neighbors are trying to kill Jews. The U.N. is trying to kill Jews. The Vatican is trying to kill Jews. Hell, even the Irish (the Irish, FFS!) are trying to get in on the act of killing Jews.

Seriously - have you encountered any other group that you think doesn't want to kill Jews?

Who are you talking to, hon, the auditory hallucinations that you hear? I’ve only written anything about Hamas.

To be frank, Hamas wouldn’t know what to do with a country if they got one. And that’s not their actual goal. They just want to kill Jews. That’s their stated goal in life. Truth.

Tell me again about the auditory hallucinations? You said that the "stated goal in life" was "to kill Jews".

I mocked you by pointing out that the same people who make that propagandist false claim are Boys who cry Wolf because they claim that everyone tries to kill them. So why should anyone take your propaganda and existential horse manure seriously, hon?

They killed over 1000 Jews six months ago, to widespread celebration.

Israel has done 30-35x that, and continues to, to not only widespread celebration, but cheers in the Knesset. The highest levels of Israeli government are actually rejoicing at the genocide being committed in their name. Ben Gbir, Smotrich, etc. Meanwhile, in the settler communities that Israeli refuses to contain, in violation of international law, hundreds of thousands of settlers like Daniella Weiss are cackling as I type this … boy, you are one sad sack hypocrite!

What happened before 10/7? Rockets fired into Israel. And what happened before that? Rockets fired into Israel. And what happened before that? Rockets fired into Israel.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_rocket_attacks_on_Israel

And before that, suicide bombers.

But you think that Israels' response is disproportionate. Disproportionate to what?

What is the ratio of Israelis killed by Palestinians to Palestinians killed by Israelis since 1948?

Disproportionate doesn’t begin to describe how one-sided the abuse has been in this conflict …

DP. Casualty numbers sure seem like a silly way to determine which side is wrong. See, e.g., WW2.

When one neighbor kills their neighbors over 75 years at a ratio of at least several dozen : 1, I think it’s reasonable to draw some conclusions regarding “blame” in that conflict.

Do you draw any conclusions from which side starts conflict, generally by purposefully terrorizing attacks, every time?

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Anonymous wrote:op i'm a jew and i agree with you.
however I do think people are crossing a line into anti semitism now. It's really hard to tell where 'the line' is... for example, we live in nyc and spend time in dutchess county and a local businessman posted this. It feels like a lot of the rhetoric is just getting really extreme...

https://x.com/RobLister9/status/1783907912907190719

That's not anti-Semitic. It's entirely focused on the policies of the country and government of Israel. It's a bit intense and all encompassing but the situation is pretty messed up. People are fed up and want the whole Israel-Palestine blood feud thing to end.

you dont think 'f balfour, f zionism' might be construed as such, seeing as zionism is in part the belief that israel should exist at all?

The problem is not that Israel exists but that others had to be forcibly removed for it to exist, and it would’ve been nice to get that acknowledged once in a while instead the countless stories like “we made the desert bloom”.

What’s the point? Are we asking England, Spain, Portugal, France, Belgium etc to do the same? This is as useful as Chicago calling for a ceasefire. It’s all leftism feel good do nothing.

All expelled from their colonies around the globe. Here is a hint for you, extreme brutality is a sign of end stage for the colonizer.

Jews have no one country to “go back to.” That was the point of the creation of Israel. I can’t believe I have to write this. They are not “white colonizers.” This is just the brain dead, historically illiterate Gen Z attempt to gloss American racial politics onto something far more complicated.

Just because you don't have a country "to go back to", doesn't mean other people have to move to create space for your new country. But by all means, feel free to argue that settlers with Brooklyn accents really are natively connected to Eretz Israel more than a guy called Khaled whose family lived in Yaffa for generations.

I presume you’re Native American, or if not, moving back to wherever your gg grandma immigrated from?

That's a GREAT comparison so let's take it to its logical conclusions:

1. Issue Israeli passports to all Palestinians. Native Americans are American citizens are they not?

2. Acknowledge at every opportunity the great evil done to Native Americans, like the US does today.

3. Lose the fake stories you told for generations, aka "we made the desert bloom".

Proceed, please.

Disagree with your #2 and 3. We've gone backwards in acknowledging US history rather than forwards. And losing "fake" stories about our history helps no one and only tears a country apart. Adding new stories is a possible step, although to date we aren't doing it here yet.

Number 1 will never happen because people with passports can vote and Israel can never allow that many Palestinians to have voting rights. The only solution that Israel will agree to is permanent occupation or ethnic cleansing

Of course. Israel loves to brag about "but we have Arabs!" but works really really hard to keep the Arab numbers as low as possible. They want enough Arabs to pretend to be a multicultural tolerant country but not enough to become a political power. That's not allowed. A Jewish state means Jewish government and a Jewish majority.

How many majority-Jewish countries are there in the world? How many majority-Muslim states are there?

Who TF cares? Jews (and I'm intentionally using this term as expansively as possible) comprise less than 16M people worldwide. Muslims apparently comprise 1.9B.

There are 119 Muslims for every Jewish person. The number of Muslim-majority countries isn't even close to that figure (there are less than 50 Muslim-majority countries, most of which are tiny like Israel). So your question doesn't make the point you think it does.

In fact, there are 40 - 45M Kurds across the globe. Where's their country? Seems like, based on your logic, they are more deserving of a country than the Jewish community.

I am going to guess you think everyone is deserving of a country more than Jews.

By the way - Jews being such a small minority, is why we need a homeland. And it's a tiny one. Less than the size of New Jersey.

Nobody is "deserving" of a country. And there's no point in responding to your guess since, as someone presumably identifying yourself as a Zionist, I already know that you believe that Jews "deserve" a country before anyone else, and that Jews should be at the front of the line for every privilege imaginable. Part of the ol' Chosen People fairytale.

Besides - at worst, any view that everyone is "deserving" of a country more than Jews is no worse than a nullification of your racist, entitled view of the world.

To be frank, Hamas wouldn’t know what to do with a country if they got one. And that’s not their actual goal. They just want to kill Jews. That’s their stated goal in life. Truth.

Hopefully you can forgive non-Jews for rolling their eyes at that persistent propaganda (the only goal of Hamas is to kill Jews!) considering the fact that you have told the world repeatedly, for centuries, that this group wants to kill Jews, and then that group wants to kill Jews, and then this other group wants to kill Jews, but also you have yet another group that wants to kill Jews, ad infinitum. All of Israel's neighbors are trying to kill Jews. The U.N. is trying to kill Jews. The Vatican is trying to kill Jews. Hell, even the Irish (the Irish, FFS!) are trying to get in on the act of killing Jews.

Seriously - have you encountered any other group that you think doesn't want to kill Jews?

Who are you talking to, hon, the auditory hallucinations that you hear? I’ve only written anything about Hamas.

To be frank, Hamas wouldn’t know what to do with a country if they got one. And that’s not their actual goal. They just want to kill Jews. That’s their stated goal in life. Truth.

Tell me again about the auditory hallucinations? You said that the "stated goal in life" was "to kill Jews".

I mocked you by pointing out that the same people who make that propagandist false claim are Boys who cry Wolf because they claim that everyone tries to kill them. So why should anyone take your propaganda and existential horse manure seriously, hon?

They killed over 1000 Jews six months ago, to widespread celebration.

Israel has done 30-35x that, and continues to, to not only widespread celebration, but cheers in the Knesset. The highest levels of Israeli government are actually rejoicing at the genocide being committed in their name. Ben Gbir, Smotrich, etc. Meanwhile, in the settler communities that Israeli refuses to contain, in violation of international law, hundreds of thousands of settlers like Daniella Weiss are cackling as I type this … boy, you are one sad sack hypocrite!

What happened before 10/7? Rockets fired into Israel. And what happened before that? Rockets fired into Israel. And what happened before that? Rockets fired into Israel.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_rocket_attacks_on_Israel

And before that, suicide bombers.

But you think that Israels' response is disproportionate. Disproportionate to what?

What is the ratio of Israelis killed by Palestinians to Palestinians killed by Israelis since 1948?

Disproportionate doesn’t begin to describe how one-sided the abuse has been in this conflict …

DP. Casualty numbers sure seem like a silly way to determine which side is wrong. See, e.g., WW2.

When one neighbor kills their neighbors over 75 years at a ratio of at least several dozen : 1, I think it’s reasonable to draw some conclusions regarding “blame” in that conflict.

So Kuwait and the US are to blame for the first Gulf War?

And South Korea for the Korean War?

Casualty numbers tell us only one thing: who’s better equipped to fight.

They tell us nothing about assessing blame.

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Anonymous wrote:op i'm a jew and i agree with you.
however I do think people are crossing a line into anti semitism now. It's really hard to tell where 'the line' is... for example, we live in nyc and spend time in dutchess county and a local businessman posted this. It feels like a lot of the rhetoric is just getting really extreme...

https://x.com/RobLister9/status/1783907912907190719

That's not anti-Semitic. It's entirely focused on the policies of the country and government of Israel. It's a bit intense and all encompassing but the situation is pretty messed up. People are fed up and want the whole Israel-Palestine blood feud thing to end.

you dont think 'f balfour, f zionism' might be construed as such, seeing as zionism is in part the belief that israel should exist at all?

The problem is not that Israel exists but that others had to be forcibly removed for it to exist, and it would’ve been nice to get that acknowledged once in a while instead the countless stories like “we made the desert bloom”.

What’s the point? Are we asking England, Spain, Portugal, France, Belgium etc to do the same? This is as useful as Chicago calling for a ceasefire. It’s all leftism feel good do nothing.

All expelled from their colonies around the globe. Here is a hint for you, extreme brutality is a sign of end stage for the colonizer.

Jews have no one country to “go back to.” That was the point of the creation of Israel. I can’t believe I have to write this. They are not “white colonizers.” This is just the brain dead, historically illiterate Gen Z attempt to gloss American racial politics onto something far more complicated.

Just because you don't have a country "to go back to", doesn't mean other people have to move to create space for your new country. But by all means, feel free to argue that settlers with Brooklyn accents really are natively connected to Eretz Israel more than a guy called Khaled whose family lived in Yaffa for generations.

I presume you’re Native American, or if not, moving back to wherever your gg grandma immigrated from?

That's a GREAT comparison so let's take it to its logical conclusions:

1. Issue Israeli passports to all Palestinians. Native Americans are American citizens are they not?

2. Acknowledge at every opportunity the great evil done to Native Americans, like the US does today.

3. Lose the fake stories you told for generations, aka "we made the desert bloom".

Proceed, please.

Disagree with your #2 and 3. We've gone backwards in acknowledging US history rather than forwards. And losing "fake" stories about our history helps no one and only tears a country apart. Adding new stories is a possible step, although to date we aren't doing it here yet.

Number 1 will never happen because people with passports can vote and Israel can never allow that many Palestinians to have voting rights. The only solution that Israel will agree to is permanent occupation or ethnic cleansing

Of course. Israel loves to brag about "but we have Arabs!" but works really really hard to keep the Arab numbers as low as possible. They want enough Arabs to pretend to be a multicultural tolerant country but not enough to become a political power. That's not allowed. A Jewish state means Jewish government and a Jewish majority.

How many majority-Jewish countries are there in the world? How many majority-Muslim states are there?

Who TF cares? Jews (and I'm intentionally using this term as expansively as possible) comprise less than 16M people worldwide. Muslims apparently comprise 1.9B.

There are 119 Muslims for every Jewish person. The number of Muslim-majority countries isn't even close to that figure (there are less than 50 Muslim-majority countries, most of which are tiny like Israel). So your question doesn't make the point you think it does.

In fact, there are 40 - 45M Kurds across the globe. Where's their country? Seems like, based on your logic, they are more deserving of a country than the Jewish community.

I am going to guess you think everyone is deserving of a country more than Jews.

By the way - Jews being such a small minority, is why we need a homeland. And it's a tiny one. Less than the size of New Jersey.

Nobody is "deserving" of a country. And there's no point in responding to your guess since, as someone presumably identifying yourself as a Zionist, I already know that you believe that Jews "deserve" a country before anyone else, and that Jews should be at the front of the line for every privilege imaginable. Part of the ol' Chosen People fairytale.

Besides - at worst, any view that everyone is "deserving" of a country more than Jews is no worse than a nullification of your racist, entitled view of the world.

To be frank, Hamas wouldn’t know what to do with a country if they got one. And that’s not their actual goal. They just want to kill Jews. That’s their stated goal in life. Truth.

Hopefully you can forgive non-Jews for rolling their eyes at that persistent propaganda (the only goal of Hamas is to kill Jews!) considering the fact that you have told the world repeatedly, for centuries, that this group wants to kill Jews, and then that group wants to kill Jews, and then this other group wants to kill Jews, but also you have yet another group that wants to kill Jews, ad infinitum. All of Israel's neighbors are trying to kill Jews. The U.N. is trying to kill Jews. The Vatican is trying to kill Jews. Hell, even the Irish (the Irish, FFS!) are trying to get in on the act of killing Jews.

Seriously - have you encountered any other group that you think doesn't want to kill Jews?

Who are you talking to, hon, the auditory hallucinations that you hear? I’ve only written anything about Hamas.

To be frank, Hamas wouldn’t know what to do with a country if they got one. And that’s not their actual goal. They just want to kill Jews. That’s their stated goal in life. Truth.

Tell me again about the auditory hallucinations? You said that the "stated goal in life" was "to kill Jews".

I mocked you by pointing out that the same people who make that propagandist false claim are Boys who cry Wolf because they claim that everyone tries to kill them. So why should anyone take your propaganda and existential horse manure seriously, hon?

They killed over 1000 Jews six months ago, to widespread celebration.

Israel has done 30-35x that, and continues to, to not only widespread celebration, but cheers in the Knesset. The highest levels of Israeli government are actually rejoicing at the genocide being committed in their name. Ben Gbir, Smotrich, etc. Meanwhile, in the settler communities that Israeli refuses to contain, in violation of international law, hundreds of thousands of settlers like Daniella Weiss are cackling as I type this … boy, you are one sad sack hypocrite!

What happened before 10/7? Rockets fired into Israel. And what happened before that? Rockets fired into Israel. And what happened before that? Rockets fired into Israel.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_rocket_attacks_on_Israel

And before that, suicide bombers.

But you think that Israels' response is disproportionate. Disproportionate to what?

What is the ratio of Israelis killed by Palestinians to Palestinians killed by Israelis since 1948?

Disproportionate doesn’t begin to describe how one-sided the abuse has been in this conflict …

DP. Casualty numbers sure seem like a silly way to determine which side is wrong. See, e.g., WW2.

When one neighbor kills their neighbors over 75 years at a ratio of at least several dozen : 1, I think it’s reasonable to draw some conclusions regarding “blame” in that conflict.

So Kuwait and the US are to blame for the first Gulf War?

And South Korea for the Korean War?

Casualty numbers tell us only one thing: who’s better equipped to fight.

They tell us nothing about assessing blame.

You’re incapable of seeing past your Zionist blinders. Have a great year.

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Anonymous wrote:op i'm a jew and i agree with you.
however I do think people are crossing a line into anti semitism now. It's really hard to tell where 'the line' is... for example, we live in nyc and spend time in dutchess county and a local businessman posted this. It feels like a lot of the rhetoric is just getting really extreme...

https://x.com/RobLister9/status/1783907912907190719

That's not anti-Semitic. It's entirely focused on the policies of the country and government of Israel. It's a bit intense and all encompassing but the situation is pretty messed up. People are fed up and want the whole Israel-Palestine blood feud thing to end.

you dont think 'f balfour, f zionism' might be construed as such, seeing as zionism is in part the belief that israel should exist at all?

The problem is not that Israel exists but that others had to be forcibly removed for it to exist, and it would’ve been nice to get that acknowledged once in a while instead the countless stories like “we made the desert bloom”.

What’s the point? Are we asking England, Spain, Portugal, France, Belgium etc to do the same? This is as useful as Chicago calling for a ceasefire. It’s all leftism feel good do nothing.

All expelled from their colonies around the globe. Here is a hint for you, extreme brutality is a sign of end stage for the colonizer.

Jews have no one country to “go back to.” That was the point of the creation of Israel. I can’t believe I have to write this. They are not “white colonizers.” This is just the brain dead, historically illiterate Gen Z attempt to gloss American racial politics onto something far more complicated.

Just because you don't have a country "to go back to", doesn't mean other people have to move to create space for your new country. But by all means, feel free to argue that settlers with Brooklyn accents really are natively connected to Eretz Israel more than a guy called Khaled whose family lived in Yaffa for generations.

I presume you’re Native American, or if not, moving back to wherever your gg grandma immigrated from?

That's a GREAT comparison so let's take it to its logical conclusions:

1. Issue Israeli passports to all Palestinians. Native Americans are American citizens are they not?

2. Acknowledge at every opportunity the great evil done to Native Americans, like the US does today.

3. Lose the fake stories you told for generations, aka "we made the desert bloom".

Proceed, please.

Disagree with your #2 and 3. We've gone backwards in acknowledging US history rather than forwards. And losing "fake" stories about our history helps no one and only tears a country apart. Adding new stories is a possible step, although to date we aren't doing it here yet.

Number 1 will never happen because people with passports can vote and Israel can never allow that many Palestinians to have voting rights. The only solution that Israel will agree to is permanent occupation or ethnic cleansing

Of course. Israel loves to brag about "but we have Arabs!" but works really really hard to keep the Arab numbers as low as possible. They want enough Arabs to pretend to be a multicultural tolerant country but not enough to become a political power. That's not allowed. A Jewish state means Jewish government and a Jewish majority.

How many majority-Jewish countries are there in the world? How many majority-Muslim states are there?

Who TF cares? Jews (and I'm intentionally using this term as expansively as possible) comprise less than 16M people worldwide. Muslims apparently comprise 1.9B.

There are 119 Muslims for every Jewish person. The number of Muslim-majority countries isn't even close to that figure (there are less than 50 Muslim-majority countries, most of which are tiny like Israel). So your question doesn't make the point you think it does.

In fact, there are 40 - 45M Kurds across the globe. Where's their country? Seems like, based on your logic, they are more deserving of a country than the Jewish community.

I am going to guess you think everyone is deserving of a country more than Jews.

By the way - Jews being such a small minority, is why we need a homeland. And it's a tiny one. Less than the size of New Jersey.

Nobody is "deserving" of a country. And there's no point in responding to your guess since, as someone presumably identifying yourself as a Zionist, I already know that you believe that Jews "deserve" a country before anyone else, and that Jews should be at the front of the line for every privilege imaginable. Part of the ol' Chosen People fairytale.

Besides - at worst, any view that everyone is "deserving" of a country more than Jews is no worse than a nullification of your racist, entitled view of the world.

To be frank, Hamas wouldn’t know what to do with a country if they got one. And that’s not their actual goal. They just want to kill Jews. That’s their stated goal in life. Truth.

Hamas never had a problem with Jews outside of Israel.

This is like saying a group has nothing against Americans outside of America. Um, okay, we can’t live in our country, but there’s no problem with us?

Not all Jews see Israel as "our country". Jews and Israelis is not the same thing.

All Jews see it as our homeland. That is literally where we come from. DNA evidence has proven that again and again. I’m a Jew from Ukraine, I can assure you that’s not the Motherland, Israel is.

[Anonymous]

Still feeling really sad and off-kilter from a convo the other day with a friend who said “nobody likes Palestinians” and that “the blame for every single Palestinian death is on Hamas.”

Then I read in this in WSJ today: “Members of his small war cabinet are pushing him to cut a deal to free hostages, but ministers on the right wing of his broader coalition are threatening to bring down his government if he cuts a deal that prevents a Rafah operation. ”

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I’m pp, and forgot to add that some of my best friends are Jewish, but this friend knows I have Palestinian friends in our CCDC neighborhood, so it felt like an attack against me personally.

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Anonymous wrote:op i'm a jew and i agree with you.
however I do think people are crossing a line into anti semitism now. It's really hard to tell where 'the line' is... for example, we live in nyc and spend time in dutchess county and a local businessman posted this. It feels like a lot of the rhetoric is just getting really extreme...

https://x.com/RobLister9/status/1783907912907190719

That's not anti-Semitic. It's entirely focused on the policies of the country and government of Israel. It's a bit intense and all encompassing but the situation is pretty messed up. People are fed up and want the whole Israel-Palestine blood feud thing to end.

you dont think 'f balfour, f zionism' might be construed as such, seeing as zionism is in part the belief that israel should exist at all?

The problem is not that Israel exists but that others had to be forcibly removed for it to exist, and it would’ve been nice to get that acknowledged once in a while instead the countless stories like “we made the desert bloom”.

What’s the point? Are we asking England, Spain, Portugal, France, Belgium etc to do the same? This is as useful as Chicago calling for a ceasefire. It’s all leftism feel good do nothing.

All expelled from their colonies around the globe. Here is a hint for you, extreme brutality is a sign of end stage for the colonizer.

Jews have no one country to “go back to.” That was the point of the creation of Israel. I can’t believe I have to write this. They are not “white colonizers.” This is just the brain dead, historically illiterate Gen Z attempt to gloss American racial politics onto something far more complicated.

Just because you don't have a country "to go back to", doesn't mean other people have to move to create space for your new country. But by all means, feel free to argue that settlers with Brooklyn accents really are natively connected to Eretz Israel more than a guy called Khaled whose family lived in Yaffa for generations.

I presume you’re Native American, or if not, moving back to wherever your gg grandma immigrated from?

That's a GREAT comparison so let's take it to its logical conclusions:

1. Issue Israeli passports to all Palestinians. Native Americans are American citizens are they not?

2. Acknowledge at every opportunity the great evil done to Native Americans, like the US does today.

3. Lose the fake stories you told for generations, aka "we made the desert bloom".

Proceed, please.

Disagree with your #2 and 3. We've gone backwards in acknowledging US history rather than forwards. And losing "fake" stories about our history helps no one and only tears a country apart. Adding new stories is a possible step, although to date we aren't doing it here yet.

Number 1 will never happen because people with passports can vote and Israel can never allow that many Palestinians to have voting rights. The only solution that Israel will agree to is permanent occupation or ethnic cleansing

Of course. Israel loves to brag about "but we have Arabs!" but works really really hard to keep the Arab numbers as low as possible. They want enough Arabs to pretend to be a multicultural tolerant country but not enough to become a political power. That's not allowed. A Jewish state means Jewish government and a Jewish majority.

How many majority-Jewish countries are there in the world? How many majority-Muslim states are there?

Who TF cares? Jews (and I'm intentionally using this term as expansively as possible) comprise less than 16M people worldwide. Muslims apparently comprise 1.9B.

There are 119 Muslims for every Jewish person. The number of Muslim-majority countries isn't even close to that figure (there are less than 50 Muslim-majority countries, most of which are tiny like Israel). So your question doesn't make the point you think it does.

In fact, there are 40 - 45M Kurds across the globe. Where's their country? Seems like, based on your logic, they are more deserving of a country than the Jewish community.

I am going to guess you think everyone is deserving of a country more than Jews.

By the way - Jews being such a small minority, is why we need a homeland. And it's a tiny one. Less than the size of New Jersey.

Nobody is "deserving" of a country. And there's no point in responding to your guess since, as someone presumably identifying yourself as a Zionist, I already know that you believe that Jews "deserve" a country before anyone else, and that Jews should be at the front of the line for every privilege imaginable. Part of the ol' Chosen People fairytale.

Besides - at worst, any view that everyone is "deserving" of a country more than Jews is no worse than a nullification of your racist, entitled view of the world.

To be frank, Hamas wouldn’t know what to do with a country if they got one. And that’s not their actual goal. They just want to kill Jews. That’s their stated goal in life. Truth.

Hamas never had a problem with Jews outside of Israel.

This is like saying a group has nothing against Americans outside of America. Um, okay, we can’t live in our country, but there’s no problem with us?

Not all Jews see Israel as "our country". Jews and Israelis is not the same thing.

All Jews see it as our homeland. That is literally where we come from. DNA evidence has proven that again and again. I’m a Jew from Ukraine, I can assure you that’s not the Motherland, Israel is.

Your assurance, which may be sincere but is more likely just self-serving, is laughably irrelevant. Whatever ancestral claim you think you have to that “motherland”, the people in Gaza have an equal or greater claim, and that’s based on scientific fact, not my assurance.

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Anonymous wrote:op i'm a jew and i agree with you.
however I do think people are crossing a line into anti semitism now. It's really hard to tell where 'the line' is... for example, we live in nyc and spend time in dutchess county and a local businessman posted this. It feels like a lot of the rhetoric is just getting really extreme...

https://x.com/RobLister9/status/1783907912907190719

That's not anti-Semitic. It's entirely focused on the policies of the country and government of Israel. It's a bit intense and all encompassing but the situation is pretty messed up. People are fed up and want the whole Israel-Palestine blood feud thing to end.

you dont think 'f balfour, f zionism' might be construed as such, seeing as zionism is in part the belief that israel should exist at all?

The problem is not that Israel exists but that others had to be forcibly removed for it to exist, and it would’ve been nice to get that acknowledged once in a while instead the countless stories like “we made the desert bloom”.

What’s the point? Are we asking England, Spain, Portugal, France, Belgium etc to do the same? This is as useful as Chicago calling for a ceasefire. It’s all leftism feel good do nothing.

All expelled from their colonies around the globe. Here is a hint for you, extreme brutality is a sign of end stage for the colonizer.

Jews have no one country to “go back to.” That was the point of the creation of Israel. I can’t believe I have to write this. They are not “white colonizers.” This is just the brain dead, historically illiterate Gen Z attempt to gloss American racial politics onto something far more complicated.

Just because you don't have a country "to go back to", doesn't mean other people have to move to create space for your new country. But by all means, feel free to argue that settlers with Brooklyn accents really are natively connected to Eretz Israel more than a guy called Khaled whose family lived in Yaffa for generations.

I presume you’re Native American, or if not, moving back to wherever your gg grandma immigrated from?

That's a GREAT comparison so let's take it to its logical conclusions:

1. Issue Israeli passports to all Palestinians. Native Americans are American citizens are they not?

2. Acknowledge at every opportunity the great evil done to Native Americans, like the US does today.

3. Lose the fake stories you told for generations, aka "we made the desert bloom".

Proceed, please.

Disagree with your #2 and 3. We've gone backwards in acknowledging US history rather than forwards. And losing "fake" stories about our history helps no one and only tears a country apart. Adding new stories is a possible step, although to date we aren't doing it here yet.

Number 1 will never happen because people with passports can vote and Israel can never allow that many Palestinians to have voting rights. The only solution that Israel will agree to is permanent occupation or ethnic cleansing

Of course. Israel loves to brag about "but we have Arabs!" but works really really hard to keep the Arab numbers as low as possible. They want enough Arabs to pretend to be a multicultural tolerant country but not enough to become a political power. That's not allowed. A Jewish state means Jewish government and a Jewish majority.

How many majority-Jewish countries are there in the world? How many majority-Muslim states are there?

Who TF cares? Jews (and I'm intentionally using this term as expansively as possible) comprise less than 16M people worldwide. Muslims apparently comprise 1.9B.

There are 119 Muslims for every Jewish person. The number of Muslim-majority countries isn't even close to that figure (there are less than 50 Muslim-majority countries, most of which are tiny like Israel). So your question doesn't make the point you think it does.

In fact, there are 40 - 45M Kurds across the globe. Where's their country? Seems like, based on your logic, they are more deserving of a country than the Jewish community.

I am going to guess you think everyone is deserving of a country more than Jews.

By the way - Jews being such a small minority, is why we need a homeland. And it's a tiny one. Less than the size of New Jersey.

Nobody is "deserving" of a country. And there's no point in responding to your guess since, as someone presumably identifying yourself as a Zionist, I already know that you believe that Jews "deserve" a country before anyone else, and that Jews should be at the front of the line for every privilege imaginable. Part of the ol' Chosen People fairytale.

Besides - at worst, any view that everyone is "deserving" of a country more than Jews is no worse than a nullification of your racist, entitled view of the world.

To be frank, Hamas wouldn’t know what to do with a country if they got one. And that’s not their actual goal. They just want to kill Jews. That’s their stated goal in life. Truth.

Hamas never had a problem with Jews outside of Israel.

This is like saying a group has nothing against Americans outside of America. Um, okay, we can’t live in our country, but there’s no problem with us?

Not all Jews see Israel as "our country". Jews and Israelis is not the same thing.

Nope, God promised. That trumps generations of actually living somewhere

All Jews see it as our homeland. That is literally where we come from. DNA evidence has proven that again and again. I’m a Jew from Ukraine, I can assure you that’s not the Motherland, Israel is.

Your assurance, which may be sincere but is more likely just self-serving, is laughably irrelevant. Whatever ancestral claim you think you have to that “motherland”, the people in Gaza have an equal or greater claim, and that’s based on scientific fact, not my assurance.

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Anonymous wrote:op i'm a jew and i agree with you.
however I do think people are crossing a line into anti semitism now. It's really hard to tell where 'the line' is... for example, we live in nyc and spend time in dutchess county and a local businessman posted this. It feels like a lot of the rhetoric is just getting really extreme...

https://x.com/RobLister9/status/1783907912907190719

That's not anti-Semitic. It's entirely focused on the policies of the country and government of Israel. It's a bit intense and all encompassing but the situation is pretty messed up. People are fed up and want the whole Israel-Palestine blood feud thing to end.

you dont think 'f balfour, f zionism' might be construed as such, seeing as zionism is in part the belief that israel should exist at all?

The problem is not that Israel exists but that others had to be forcibly removed for it to exist, and it would’ve been nice to get that acknowledged once in a while instead the countless stories like “we made the desert bloom”.

What’s the point? Are we asking England, Spain, Portugal, France, Belgium etc to do the same? This is as useful as Chicago calling for a ceasefire. It’s all leftism feel good do nothing.

All expelled from their colonies around the globe. Here is a hint for you, extreme brutality is a sign of end stage for the colonizer.

Jews have no one country to “go back to.” That was the point of the creation of Israel. I can’t believe I have to write this. They are not “white colonizers.” This is just the brain dead, historically illiterate Gen Z attempt to gloss American racial politics onto something far more complicated.

Just because you don't have a country "to go back to", doesn't mean other people have to move to create space for your new country. But by all means, feel free to argue that settlers with Brooklyn accents really are natively connected to Eretz Israel more than a guy called Khaled whose family lived in Yaffa for generations.

I presume you’re Native American, or if not, moving back to wherever your gg grandma immigrated from?

That's a GREAT comparison so let's take it to its logical conclusions:

1. Issue Israeli passports to all Palestinians. Native Americans are American citizens are they not?

2. Acknowledge at every opportunity the great evil done to Native Americans, like the US does today.

3. Lose the fake stories you told for generations, aka "we made the desert bloom".

Proceed, please.

Disagree with your #2 and 3. We've gone backwards in acknowledging US history rather than forwards. And losing "fake" stories about our history helps no one and only tears a country apart. Adding new stories is a possible step, although to date we aren't doing it here yet.

Number 1 will never happen because people with passports can vote and Israel can never allow that many Palestinians to have voting rights. The only solution that Israel will agree to is permanent occupation or ethnic cleansing

Of course. Israel loves to brag about "but we have Arabs!" but works really really hard to keep the Arab numbers as low as possible. They want enough Arabs to pretend to be a multicultural tolerant country but not enough to become a political power. That's not allowed. A Jewish state means Jewish government and a Jewish majority.

How many majority-Jewish countries are there in the world? How many majority-Muslim states are there?

Who TF cares? Jews (and I'm intentionally using this term as expansively as possible) comprise less than 16M people worldwide. Muslims apparently comprise 1.9B.

There are 119 Muslims for every Jewish person. The number of Muslim-majority countries isn't even close to that figure (there are less than 50 Muslim-majority countries, most of which are tiny like Israel). So your question doesn't make the point you think it does.

In fact, there are 40 - 45M Kurds across the globe. Where's their country? Seems like, based on your logic, they are more deserving of a country than the Jewish community.

I am going to guess you think everyone is deserving of a country more than Jews.

By the way - Jews being such a small minority, is why we need a homeland. And it's a tiny one. Less than the size of New Jersey.

Nobody is "deserving" of a country. And there's no point in responding to your guess since, as someone presumably identifying yourself as a Zionist, I already know that you believe that Jews "deserve" a country before anyone else, and that Jews should be at the front of the line for every privilege imaginable. Part of the ol' Chosen People fairytale.

Besides - at worst, any view that everyone is "deserving" of a country more than Jews is no worse than a nullification of your racist, entitled view of the world.

To be frank, Hamas wouldn’t know what to do with a country if they got one. And that’s not their actual goal. They just want to kill Jews. That’s their stated goal in life. Truth.

Hamas never had a problem with Jews outside of Israel.

This is like saying a group has nothing against Americans outside of America. Um, okay, we can’t live in our country, but there’s no problem with us?

Not all Jews see Israel as "our country". Jews and Israelis is not the same thing.

All Jews see it as our homeland. That is literally where we come from. DNA evidence has proven that again and again. I’m a Jew from Ukraine, I can assure you that’s not the Motherland, Israel is.

Your assurance, which may be sincere but is more likely just self-serving, is laughably irrelevant. Whatever ancestral claim you think you have to that “motherland”, the people in Gaza have an equal or greater claim, and that’s based on scientific fact, not my assurance.

Israel has existed for 75 years. That’s in and of itself enough claim to their ancestral homeland. Try to get your grandma’s house back from 60 years ago. It won’t happen. That’s how the law works. Why should the laws be different for Israelis? Because you’re an antisemite, perhaps?

Also, Israelis don’t want Gaza. They gave it up under the Clinton Administration many, many years ago. The problem is that since that time, the Palestinians haven’t been up to much beyond building underground tunnels to and rockets to attack Israel. Countries have a right to defend themselves, even Israel.

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Anonymous wrote:op i'm a jew and i agree with you.
however I do think people are crossing a line into anti semitism now. It's really hard to tell where 'the line' is... for example, we live in nyc and spend time in dutchess county and a local businessman posted this. It feels like a lot of the rhetoric is just getting really extreme...

https://x.com/RobLister9/status/1783907912907190719

That's not anti-Semitic. It's entirely focused on the policies of the country and government of Israel. It's a bit intense and all encompassing but the situation is pretty messed up. People are fed up and want the whole Israel-Palestine blood feud thing to end.

you dont think 'f balfour, f zionism' might be construed as such, seeing as zionism is in part the belief that israel should exist at all?

The problem is not that Israel exists but that others had to be forcibly removed for it to exist, and it would’ve been nice to get that acknowledged once in a while instead the countless stories like “we made the desert bloom”.

What’s the point? Are we asking England, Spain, Portugal, France, Belgium etc to do the same? This is as useful as Chicago calling for a ceasefire. It’s all leftism feel good do nothing.

All expelled from their colonies around the globe. Here is a hint for you, extreme brutality is a sign of end stage for the colonizer.

Jews have no one country to “go back to.” That was the point of the creation of Israel. I can’t believe I have to write this. They are not “white colonizers.” This is just the brain dead, historically illiterate Gen Z attempt to gloss American racial politics onto something far more complicated.

Just because you don't have a country "to go back to", doesn't mean other people have to move to create space for your new country. But by all means, feel free to argue that settlers with Brooklyn accents really are natively connected to Eretz Israel more than a guy called Khaled whose family lived in Yaffa for generations.

I presume you’re Native American, or if not, moving back to wherever your gg grandma immigrated from?

That's a GREAT comparison so let's take it to its logical conclusions:

1. Issue Israeli passports to all Palestinians. Native Americans are American citizens are they not?

2. Acknowledge at every opportunity the great evil done to Native Americans, like the US does today.

3. Lose the fake stories you told for generations, aka "we made the desert bloom".

Proceed, please.

Disagree with your #2 and 3. We've gone backwards in acknowledging US history rather than forwards. And losing "fake" stories about our history helps no one and only tears a country apart. Adding new stories is a possible step, although to date we aren't doing it here yet.

Number 1 will never happen because people with passports can vote and Israel can never allow that many Palestinians to have voting rights. The only solution that Israel will agree to is permanent occupation or ethnic cleansing

Of course. Israel loves to brag about "but we have Arabs!" but works really really hard to keep the Arab numbers as low as possible. They want enough Arabs to pretend to be a multicultural tolerant country but not enough to become a political power. That's not allowed. A Jewish state means Jewish government and a Jewish majority.

How many majority-Jewish countries are there in the world? How many majority-Muslim states are there?

Who TF cares? Jews (and I'm intentionally using this term as expansively as possible) comprise less than 16M people worldwide. Muslims apparently comprise 1.9B.

There are 119 Muslims for every Jewish person. The number of Muslim-majority countries isn't even close to that figure (there are less than 50 Muslim-majority countries, most of which are tiny like Israel). So your question doesn't make the point you think it does.

In fact, there are 40 - 45M Kurds across the globe. Where's their country? Seems like, based on your logic, they are more deserving of a country than the Jewish community.

I am going to guess you think everyone is deserving of a country more than Jews.

By the way - Jews being such a small minority, is why we need a homeland. And it's a tiny one. Less than the size of New Jersey.

Nobody is "deserving" of a country. And there's no point in responding to your guess since, as someone presumably identifying yourself as a Zionist, I already know that you believe that Jews "deserve" a country before anyone else, and that Jews should be at the front of the line for every privilege imaginable. Part of the ol' Chosen People fairytale.

Besides - at worst, any view that everyone is "deserving" of a country more than Jews is no worse than a nullification of your racist, entitled view of the world.

To be frank, Hamas wouldn’t know what to do with a country if they got one. And that’s not their actual goal. They just want to kill Jews. That’s their stated goal in life. Truth.

Hopefully you can forgive non-Jews for rolling their eyes at that persistent propaganda (the only goal of Hamas is to kill Jews!) considering the fact that you have told the world repeatedly, for centuries, that this group wants to kill Jews, and then that group wants to kill Jews, and then this other group wants to kill Jews, but also you have yet another group that wants to kill Jews, ad infinitum. All of Israel's neighbors are trying to kill Jews. The U.N. is trying to kill Jews. The Vatican is trying to kill Jews. Hell, even the Irish (the Irish, FFS!) are trying to get in on the act of killing Jews.

Seriously - have you encountered any other group that you think doesn't want to kill Jews?

Who are you talking to, hon, the auditory hallucinations that you hear? I’ve only written anything about Hamas.

To be frank, Hamas wouldn’t know what to do with a country if they got one. And that’s not their actual goal. They just want to kill Jews. That’s their stated goal in life. Truth.

Tell me again about the auditory hallucinations? You said that the "stated goal in life" was "to kill Jews".

I mocked you by pointing out that the same people who make that propagandist false claim are Boys who cry Wolf because they claim that everyone tries to kill them. So why should anyone take your propaganda and existential horse manure seriously, hon?

They killed over 1000 Jews six months ago, to widespread celebration.

Israel has done 30-35x that, and continues to, to not only widespread celebration, but cheers in the Knesset. The highest levels of Israeli government are actually rejoicing at the genocide being committed in their name. Ben Gbir, Smotrich, etc. Meanwhile, in the settler communities that Israeli refuses to contain, in violation of international law, hundreds of thousands of settlers like Daniella Weiss are cackling as I type this … boy, you are one sad sack hypocrite!

What happened before 10/7? Rockets fired into Israel. And what happened before that? Rockets fired into Israel. And what happened before that? Rockets fired into Israel.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_rocket_attacks_on_Israel

And before that, suicide bombers.

But you think that Israels' response is disproportionate. Disproportionate to what?

What is the ratio of Israelis killed by Palestinians to Palestinians killed by Israelis since 1948?

Disproportionate doesn’t begin to describe how one-sided the abuse has been in this conflict …

DP. Casualty numbers sure seem like a silly way to determine which side is wrong. See, e.g., WW2.

When one neighbor kills their neighbors over 75 years at a ratio of at least several dozen : 1, I think it’s reasonable to draw some conclusions regarding “blame” in that conflict.

That’s a complete logical fallacy.

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Anonymous wrote:op i'm a jew and i agree with you.
however I do think people are crossing a line into anti semitism now. It's really hard to tell where 'the line' is... for example, we live in nyc and spend time in dutchess county and a local businessman posted this. It feels like a lot of the rhetoric is just getting really extreme...

https://x.com/RobLister9/status/1783907912907190719

That's not anti-Semitic. It's entirely focused on the policies of the country and government of Israel. It's a bit intense and all encompassing but the situation is pretty messed up. People are fed up and want the whole Israel-Palestine blood feud thing to end.

you dont think 'f balfour, f zionism' might be construed as such, seeing as zionism is in part the belief that israel should exist at all?

The problem is not that Israel exists but that others had to be forcibly removed for it to exist, and it would’ve been nice to get that acknowledged once in a while instead the countless stories like “we made the desert bloom”.

What’s the point? Are we asking England, Spain, Portugal, France, Belgium etc to do the same? This is as useful as Chicago calling for a ceasefire. It’s all leftism feel good do nothing.

All expelled from their colonies around the globe. Here is a hint for you, extreme brutality is a sign of end stage for the colonizer.

Jews have no one country to “go back to.” That was the point of the creation of Israel. I can’t believe I have to write this. They are not “white colonizers.” This is just the brain dead, historically illiterate Gen Z attempt to gloss American racial politics onto something far more complicated.

Just because you don't have a country "to go back to", doesn't mean other people have to move to create space for your new country. But by all means, feel free to argue that settlers with Brooklyn accents really are natively connected to Eretz Israel more than a guy called Khaled whose family lived in Yaffa for generations.

I presume you’re Native American, or if not, moving back to wherever your gg grandma immigrated from?

That's a GREAT comparison so let's take it to its logical conclusions:

1. Issue Israeli passports to all Palestinians. Native Americans are American citizens are they not?

2. Acknowledge at every opportunity the great evil done to Native Americans, like the US does today.

3. Lose the fake stories you told for generations, aka "we made the desert bloom".

Proceed, please.

Disagree with your #2 and 3. We've gone backwards in acknowledging US history rather than forwards. And losing "fake" stories about our history helps no one and only tears a country apart. Adding new stories is a possible step, although to date we aren't doing it here yet.

Number 1 will never happen because people with passports can vote and Israel can never allow that many Palestinians to have voting rights. The only solution that Israel will agree to is permanent occupation or ethnic cleansing

Of course. Israel loves to brag about "but we have Arabs!" but works really really hard to keep the Arab numbers as low as possible. They want enough Arabs to pretend to be a multicultural tolerant country but not enough to become a political power. That's not allowed. A Jewish state means Jewish government and a Jewish majority.

How many majority-Jewish countries are there in the world? How many majority-Muslim states are there?

Who TF cares? Jews (and I'm intentionally using this term as expansively as possible) comprise less than 16M people worldwide. Muslims apparently comprise 1.9B.

There are 119 Muslims for every Jewish person. The number of Muslim-majority countries isn't even close to that figure (there are less than 50 Muslim-majority countries, most of which are tiny like Israel). So your question doesn't make the point you think it does.

In fact, there are 40 - 45M Kurds across the globe. Where's their country? Seems like, based on your logic, they are more deserving of a country than the Jewish community.

I am going to guess you think everyone is deserving of a country more than Jews.

By the way - Jews being such a small minority, is why we need a homeland. And it's a tiny one. Less than the size of New Jersey.

Nobody is "deserving" of a country. And there's no point in responding to your guess since, as someone presumably identifying yourself as a Zionist, I already know that you believe that Jews "deserve" a country before anyone else, and that Jews should be at the front of the line for every privilege imaginable. Part of the ol' Chosen People fairytale.

Besides - at worst, any view that everyone is "deserving" of a country more than Jews is no worse than a nullification of your racist, entitled view of the world.

To be frank, Hamas wouldn’t know what to do with a country if they got one. And that’s not their actual goal. They just want to kill Jews. That’s their stated goal in life. Truth.

Hopefully you can forgive non-Jews for rolling their eyes at that persistent propaganda (the only goal of Hamas is to kill Jews!) considering the fact that you have told the world repeatedly, for centuries, that this group wants to kill Jews, and then that group wants to kill Jews, and then this other group wants to kill Jews, but also you have yet another group that wants to kill Jews, ad infinitum. All of Israel's neighbors are trying to kill Jews. The U.N. is trying to kill Jews. The Vatican is trying to kill Jews. Hell, even the Irish (the Irish, FFS!) are trying to get in on the act of killing Jews.

Seriously - have you encountered any other group that you think doesn't want to kill Jews?

Who are you talking to, hon, the auditory hallucinations that you hear? I’ve only written anything about Hamas.

To be frank, Hamas wouldn’t know what to do with a country if they got one. And that’s not their actual goal. They just want to kill Jews. That’s their stated goal in life. Truth.

Tell me again about the auditory hallucinations? You said that the "stated goal in life" was "to kill Jews".

I mocked you by pointing out that the same people who make that propagandist false claim are Boys who cry Wolf because they claim that everyone tries to kill them. So why should anyone take your propaganda and existential horse manure seriously, hon?

They killed over 1000 Jews six months ago, to widespread celebration.

Israel has done 30-35x that, and continues to, to not only widespread celebration, but cheers in the Knesset. The highest levels of Israeli government are actually rejoicing at the genocide being committed in their name. Ben Gbir, Smotrich, etc. Meanwhile, in the settler communities that Israeli refuses to contain, in violation of international law, hundreds of thousands of settlers like Daniella Weiss are cackling as I type this … boy, you are one sad sack hypocrite!

What happened before 10/7? Rockets fired into Israel. And what happened before that? Rockets fired into Israel. And what happened before that? Rockets fired into Israel.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_rocket_attacks_on_Israel

And before that, suicide bombers.

But you think that Israels' response is disproportionate. Disproportionate to what?

And what happened before rockets?

Land theft.

Water theft.

Administrative detention.

Criminalization of any dissent or peaceful protest.

Indiscriminate killing by the IDF.

Complete lack of accountability for the killing and maiming.

House demolitions.

Tell me: what would you like Palestinians to do "to defend themselves" that your lilywhite self would find non-terroristic?

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Anonymous wrote:op i'm a jew and i agree with you.
however I do think people are crossing a line into anti semitism now. It's really hard to tell where 'the line' is... for example, we live in nyc and spend time in dutchess county and a local businessman posted this. It feels like a lot of the rhetoric is just getting really extreme...

https://x.com/RobLister9/status/1783907912907190719

That's not anti-Semitic. It's entirely focused on the policies of the country and government of Israel. It's a bit intense and all encompassing but the situation is pretty messed up. People are fed up and want the whole Israel-Palestine blood feud thing to end.

you dont think 'f balfour, f zionism' might be construed as such, seeing as zionism is in part the belief that israel should exist at all?

The problem is not that Israel exists but that others had to be forcibly removed for it to exist, and it would’ve been nice to get that acknowledged once in a while instead the countless stories like “we made the desert bloom”.

What’s the point? Are we asking England, Spain, Portugal, France, Belgium etc to do the same? This is as useful as Chicago calling for a ceasefire. It’s all leftism feel good do nothing.

All expelled from their colonies around the globe. Here is a hint for you, extreme brutality is a sign of end stage for the colonizer.

Jews have no one country to “go back to.” That was the point of the creation of Israel. I can’t believe I have to write this. They are not “white colonizers.” This is just the brain dead, historically illiterate Gen Z attempt to gloss American racial politics onto something far more complicated.

Just because you don't have a country "to go back to", doesn't mean other people have to move to create space for your new country. But by all means, feel free to argue that settlers with Brooklyn accents really are natively connected to Eretz Israel more than a guy called Khaled whose family lived in Yaffa for generations.

I presume you’re Native American, or if not, moving back to wherever your gg grandma immigrated from?

That's a GREAT comparison so let's take it to its logical conclusions:

1. Issue Israeli passports to all Palestinians. Native Americans are American citizens are they not?

2. Acknowledge at every opportunity the great evil done to Native Americans, like the US does today.

3. Lose the fake stories you told for generations, aka "we made the desert bloom".

Proceed, please.

Disagree with your #2 and 3. We've gone backwards in acknowledging US history rather than forwards. And losing "fake" stories about our history helps no one and only tears a country apart. Adding new stories is a possible step, although to date we aren't doing it here yet.

Number 1 will never happen because people with passports can vote and Israel can never allow that many Palestinians to have voting rights. The only solution that Israel will agree to is permanent occupation or ethnic cleansing

Of course. Israel loves to brag about "but we have Arabs!" but works really really hard to keep the Arab numbers as low as possible. They want enough Arabs to pretend to be a multicultural tolerant country but not enough to become a political power. That's not allowed. A Jewish state means Jewish government and a Jewish majority.

How many majority-Jewish countries are there in the world? How many majority-Muslim states are there?

Who TF cares? Jews (and I'm intentionally using this term as expansively as possible) comprise less than 16M people worldwide. Muslims apparently comprise 1.9B.

There are 119 Muslims for every Jewish person. The number of Muslim-majority countries isn't even close to that figure (there are less than 50 Muslim-majority countries, most of which are tiny like Israel). So your question doesn't make the point you think it does.

In fact, there are 40 - 45M Kurds across the globe. Where's their country? Seems like, based on your logic, they are more deserving of a country than the Jewish community.

I am going to guess you think everyone is deserving of a country more than Jews.

By the way - Jews being such a small minority, is why we need a homeland. And it's a tiny one. Less than the size of New Jersey.

Nobody is "deserving" of a country. And there's no point in responding to your guess since, as someone presumably identifying yourself as a Zionist, I already know that you believe that Jews "deserve" a country before anyone else, and that Jews should be at the front of the line for every privilege imaginable. Part of the ol' Chosen People fairytale.

Besides - at worst, any view that everyone is "deserving" of a country more than Jews is no worse than a nullification of your racist, entitled view of the world.

To be frank, Hamas wouldn’t know what to do with a country if they got one. And that’s not their actual goal. They just want to kill Jews. That’s their stated goal in life. Truth.

Hamas never had a problem with Jews outside of Israel.

This is like saying a group has nothing against Americans outside of America. Um, okay, we can’t live in our country, but there’s no problem with us?

Not all Jews see Israel as "our country". Jews and Israelis is not the same thing.

All Jews see it as our homeland. That is literally where we come from. DNA evidence has proven that again and again. I’m a Jew from Ukraine, I can assure you that’s not the Motherland, Israel is.

Your assurance, which may be sincere but is more likely just self-serving, is laughably irrelevant. Whatever ancestral claim you think you have to that “motherland”, the people in Gaza have an equal or greater claim, and that’s based on scientific fact, not my assurance.

Israel has existed for 75 years. That’s in and of itself enough claim to their ancestral homeland. Try to get your grandma’s house back from 60 years ago. It won’t happen. That’s how the law works. Why should the laws be different for Israelis? Because you’re an antisemite, perhaps?

Also, Israelis don’t want Gaza. They gave it up under the Clinton Administration many, many years ago. The problem is that since that time, the Palestinians haven’t been up to much beyond building underground tunnels to and rockets to attack Israel. Countries have a right to defend themselves, even Israel.

So you're saying that if the German banks have held the money and assets confiscated from the German Jews for 75 years, that makes it theirs, right? Are they misguided in giving the assets back? Why should the laws be different for the German Jews?

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Anonymous wrote:op i'm a jew and i agree with you.
however I do think people are crossing a line into anti semitism now. It's really hard to tell where 'the line' is... for example, we live in nyc and spend time in dutchess county and a local businessman posted this. It feels like a lot of the rhetoric is just getting really extreme...

https://x.com/RobLister9/status/1783907912907190719

That's not anti-Semitic. It's entirely focused on the policies of the country and government of Israel. It's a bit intense and all encompassing but the situation is pretty messed up. People are fed up and want the whole Israel-Palestine blood feud thing to end.

you dont think 'f balfour, f zionism' might be construed as such, seeing as zionism is in part the belief that israel should exist at all?

The problem is not that Israel exists but that others had to be forcibly removed for it to exist, and it would’ve been nice to get that acknowledged once in a while instead the countless stories like “we made the desert bloom”.

What’s the point? Are we asking England, Spain, Portugal, France, Belgium etc to do the same? This is as useful as Chicago calling for a ceasefire. It’s all leftism feel good do nothing.

All expelled from their colonies around the globe. Here is a hint for you, extreme brutality is a sign of end stage for the colonizer.

Jews have no one country to “go back to.” That was the point of the creation of Israel. I can’t believe I have to write this. They are not “white colonizers.” This is just the brain dead, historically illiterate Gen Z attempt to gloss American racial politics onto something far more complicated.

Just because you don't have a country "to go back to", doesn't mean other people have to move to create space for your new country. But by all means, feel free to argue that settlers with Brooklyn accents really are natively connected to Eretz Israel more than a guy called Khaled whose family lived in Yaffa for generations.

I presume you’re Native American, or if not, moving back to wherever your gg grandma immigrated from?

That's a GREAT comparison so let's take it to its logical conclusions:

1. Issue Israeli passports to all Palestinians. Native Americans are American citizens are they not?

2. Acknowledge at every opportunity the great evil done to Native Americans, like the US does today.

3. Lose the fake stories you told for generations, aka "we made the desert bloom".

Proceed, please.

Disagree with your #2 and 3. We've gone backwards in acknowledging US history rather than forwards. And losing "fake" stories about our history helps no one and only tears a country apart. Adding new stories is a possible step, although to date we aren't doing it here yet.

Number 1 will never happen because people with passports can vote and Israel can never allow that many Palestinians to have voting rights. The only solution that Israel will agree to is permanent occupation or ethnic cleansing

Of course. Israel loves to brag about "but we have Arabs!" but works really really hard to keep the Arab numbers as low as possible. They want enough Arabs to pretend to be a multicultural tolerant country but not enough to become a political power. That's not allowed. A Jewish state means Jewish government and a Jewish majority.

How many majority-Jewish countries are there in the world? How many majority-Muslim states are there?

Who TF cares? Jews (and I'm intentionally using this term as expansively as possible) comprise less than 16M people worldwide. Muslims apparently comprise 1.9B.

There are 119 Muslims for every Jewish person. The number of Muslim-majority countries isn't even close to that figure (there are less than 50 Muslim-majority countries, most of which are tiny like Israel). So your question doesn't make the point you think it does.

In fact, there are 40 - 45M Kurds across the globe. Where's their country? Seems like, based on your logic, they are more deserving of a country than the Jewish community.

I am going to guess you think everyone is deserving of a country more than Jews.

By the way - Jews being such a small minority, is why we need a homeland. And it's a tiny one. Less than the size of New Jersey.

Nobody is "deserving" of a country. And there's no point in responding to your guess since, as someone presumably identifying yourself as a Zionist, I already know that you believe that Jews "deserve" a country before anyone else, and that Jews should be at the front of the line for every privilege imaginable. Part of the ol' Chosen People fairytale.

Besides - at worst, any view that everyone is "deserving" of a country more than Jews is no worse than a nullification of your racist, entitled view of the world.

To be frank, Hamas wouldn’t know what to do with a country if they got one. And that’s not their actual goal. They just want to kill Jews. That’s their stated goal in life. Truth.

Hamas never had a problem with Jews outside of Israel.

This is like saying a group has nothing against Americans outside of America. Um, okay, we can’t live in our country, but there’s no problem with us?

Not all Jews see Israel as "our country". Jews and Israelis is not the same thing.

All Jews see it as our homeland. That is literally where we come from. DNA evidence has proven that again and again. I’m a Jew from Ukraine, I can assure you that’s not the Motherland, Israel is.

How are you a spokesperson for all Jews? You, who was raised on a steady diet of chocolate-covered salo?

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Anonymous wrote:op i'm a jew and i agree with you.
however I do think people are crossing a line into anti semitism now. It's really hard to tell where 'the line' is... for example, we live in nyc and spend time in dutchess county and a local businessman posted this. It feels like a lot of the rhetoric is just getting really extreme...

https://x.com/RobLister9/status/1783907912907190719

That's not anti-Semitic. It's entirely focused on the policies of the country and government of Israel. It's a bit intense and all encompassing but the situation is pretty messed up. People are fed up and want the whole Israel-Palestine blood feud thing to end.

you dont think 'f balfour, f zionism' might be construed as such, seeing as zionism is in part the belief that israel should exist at all?

The problem is not that Israel exists but that others had to be forcibly removed for it to exist, and it would’ve been nice to get that acknowledged once in a while instead the countless stories like “we made the desert bloom”.

What’s the point? Are we asking England, Spain, Portugal, France, Belgium etc to do the same? This is as useful as Chicago calling for a ceasefire. It’s all leftism feel good do nothing.

All expelled from their colonies around the globe. Here is a hint for you, extreme brutality is a sign of end stage for the colonizer.

Jews have no one country to “go back to.” That was the point of the creation of Israel. I can’t believe I have to write this. They are not “white colonizers.” This is just the brain dead, historically illiterate Gen Z attempt to gloss American racial politics onto something far more complicated.

Just because you don't have a country "to go back to", doesn't mean other people have to move to create space for your new country. But by all means, feel free to argue that settlers with Brooklyn accents really are natively connected to Eretz Israel more than a guy called Khaled whose family lived in Yaffa for generations.

I presume you’re Native American, or if not, moving back to wherever your gg grandma immigrated from?

That's a GREAT comparison so let's take it to its logical conclusions:

1. Issue Israeli passports to all Palestinians. Native Americans are American citizens are they not?

2. Acknowledge at every opportunity the great evil done to Native Americans, like the US does today.

3. Lose the fake stories you told for generations, aka "we made the desert bloom".

Proceed, please.

Disagree with your #2 and 3. We've gone backwards in acknowledging US history rather than forwards. And losing "fake" stories about our history helps no one and only tears a country apart. Adding new stories is a possible step, although to date we aren't doing it here yet.

Number 1 will never happen because people with passports can vote and Israel can never allow that many Palestinians to have voting rights. The only solution that Israel will agree to is permanent occupation or ethnic cleansing

Of course. Israel loves to brag about "but we have Arabs!" but works really really hard to keep the Arab numbers as low as possible. They want enough Arabs to pretend to be a multicultural tolerant country but not enough to become a political power. That's not allowed. A Jewish state means Jewish government and a Jewish majority.

How many majority-Jewish countries are there in the world? How many majority-Muslim states are there?

Who TF cares? Jews (and I'm intentionally using this term as expansively as possible) comprise less than 16M people worldwide. Muslims apparently comprise 1.9B.

There are 119 Muslims for every Jewish person. The number of Muslim-majority countries isn't even close to that figure (there are less than 50 Muslim-majority countries, most of which are tiny like Israel). So your question doesn't make the point you think it does.

In fact, there are 40 - 45M Kurds across the globe. Where's their country? Seems like, based on your logic, they are more deserving of a country than the Jewish community.

I am going to guess you think everyone is deserving of a country more than Jews.

By the way - Jews being such a small minority, is why we need a homeland. And it's a tiny one. Less than the size of New Jersey.

Nobody is "deserving" of a country. And there's no point in responding to your guess since, as someone presumably identifying yourself as a Zionist, I already know that you believe that Jews "deserve" a country before anyone else, and that Jews should be at the front of the line for every privilege imaginable. Part of the ol' Chosen People fairytale.

Besides - at worst, any view that everyone is "deserving" of a country more than Jews is no worse than a nullification of your racist, entitled view of the world.

To be frank, Hamas wouldn’t know what to do with a country if they got one. And that’s not their actual goal. They just want to kill Jews. That’s their stated goal in life. Truth.

Hopefully you can forgive non-Jews for rolling their eyes at that persistent propaganda (the only goal of Hamas is to kill Jews!) considering the fact that you have told the world repeatedly, for centuries, that this group wants to kill Jews, and then that group wants to kill Jews, and then this other group wants to kill Jews, but also you have yet another group that wants to kill Jews, ad infinitum. All of Israel's neighbors are trying to kill Jews. The U.N. is trying to kill Jews. The Vatican is trying to kill Jews. Hell, even the Irish (the Irish, FFS!) are trying to get in on the act of killing Jews.

Seriously - have you encountered any other group that you think doesn't want to kill Jews?

Who are you talking to, hon, the auditory hallucinations that you hear? I’ve only written anything about Hamas.

To be frank, Hamas wouldn’t know what to do with a country if they got one. And that’s not their actual goal. They just want to kill Jews. That’s their stated goal in life. Truth.

Tell me again about the auditory hallucinations? You said that the "stated goal in life" was "to kill Jews".

I mocked you by pointing out that the same people who make that propagandist false claim are Boys who cry Wolf because they claim that everyone tries to kill them. So why should anyone take your propaganda and existential horse manure seriously, hon?

They killed over 1000 Jews six months ago, to widespread celebration.

Israel has done 30-35x that, and continues to, to not only widespread celebration, but cheers in the Knesset. The highest levels of Israeli government are actually rejoicing at the genocide being committed in their name. Ben Gbir, Smotrich, etc. Meanwhile, in the settler communities that Israeli refuses to contain, in violation of international law, hundreds of thousands of settlers like Daniella Weiss are cackling as I type this … boy, you are one sad sack hypocrite!

What happened before 10/7? Rockets fired into Israel. And what happened before that? Rockets fired into Israel. And what happened before that? Rockets fired into Israel.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_rocket_attacks_on_Israel

And before that, suicide bombers.

But you think that Israels' response is disproportionate. Disproportionate to what?

And what happened before rockets?

Land theft.

Water theft.

Administrative detention.

Criminalization of any dissent or peaceful protest.

Indiscriminate killing by the IDF.

Complete lack of accountability for the killing and maiming.

House demolitions.

Tell me: what would you like Palestinians to do "to defend themselves" that your lilywhite self would find non-terroristic?

Um, they can use all that aid money to build schools, fund birth control. Maybe if they didn’t have twelve kids a piece, they’d be more concerned about educating them instead of making martyrs. Egypt has so many tourist resorts, right by Gaza. They could build resorts like the Egyptians instead of tunnels. You know, do something productive….