New boundary study for Churchill, Clarksburg, Damascus, Gaithersburg, RM, Northwest, Poolesville, QO, SV, WM, Wootton

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Anonymous wrote:Let's say a boundary study concludes with a recommendation that we should exchange a decent portion of our W school student body with neighboring schools that have large demographic differences. This would add slightly to bus routes, but not a huge difference.

And let's also suppose we have strong reason to believe that doing so will cause upper middle class families that are re-assigned to the non-W school leave, and that the demographics of the schools will be largely unchanged.

In that scenario, should we implement that recommended plan?

Let's make up hypothetical scenarios of doooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooom.

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Anonymous wrote:How do these priorities relate to the Boundary Study? If someone is advocating busing that will cost more money, kill it. Stop wasting money for someone's pet project.

Yes, stop busing kids from nearby schools to ones across the county just because their parents had political clout 40 years ago.

Kensington to Bethesda is across Rock Creek but NOT "across the county."

The difference in commute from Parkwood to Einstein and Parkwood to WJ is three minutes.

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Anonymous wrote:How do these priorities relate to the Boundary Study? If someone is advocating busing that will cost more money, kill it. Stop wasting money for someone's pet project.

Yes, stop busing kids from nearby schools to ones across the county just because their parents had political clout 40 years ago.

Kensington to Bethesda is across Rock Creek but NOT "across the county."

The difference in commute from Parkwood to Einstein and Parkwood to WJ is three minutes.

It’s not the Parkwood kids we’re talking about. It’s Town of Kensington neighborhood within short walking distance of Einstein.

That said, I don’t think Einstein needs those kids. It’s already big enough, and has been a fantastic school for my two kids. (Go see Beauty and the Beast, playing now!!)

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Anonymous wrote:How do these priorities relate to the Boundary Study? If someone is advocating busing that will cost more money, kill it. Stop wasting money for someone's pet project.

Yes, stop busing kids from nearby schools to ones across the county just because their parents had political clout 40 years ago.

Kensington to Bethesda is across Rock Creek but NOT "across the county."

The difference in commute from Parkwood to Einstein and Parkwood to WJ is three minutes.

The difference in driving time, from Kensington Parkwood ES to Einstein HS, and Kensington Parkwood ES to Walter Johnson HS, may be 3 minutes, but why would kids from the Town of Kensington walk to Kensington Parkwood ES on their way to Einstein HS?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Let's say a boundary study concludes with a recommendation that we should exchange a decent portion of our W school student body with neighboring schools that have large demographic differences. This would add slightly to bus routes, but not a huge difference.

And let's also suppose we have strong reason to believe that doing so will cause upper middle class families that are re-assigned to the non-W school leave, and that the demographics of the schools will be largely unchanged.

In that scenario, should we implement that recommended plan?

Let's make up hypothetical scenarios of doooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooom.

How is that "doom"? It happened literally just happened in HoCo and they are not "doomed". I'm just curious about what people think about the outcome.

[Anonymous]

Kensington students who go to WJ must cross three major N-S highways: Conn. Ave., Rockville Pike, and Old Georgetown Road. From Kensington to Einstein requires crossing one not-so-major highway: Univ. Blvd. People living in north Kensington can hear the Einstein marching band on football nights.

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Anonymous wrote:I hope they can reduce busing costs. Boundaries like Wootton's are terrible. Most of the students live closer to another school.

And then Horizon Hill neighborhood which is walkable, DOESN'T go to Wootton.

In Kensington, many families who live near Einstein also end up being bussed cross-county to WJ. These segregated boundaries from 40 years ago need to go.

Every single time I have read claims like this, and then looked into specifics of the actual boundary, it was immediately clear that the boundaries result from constraints from the distribution of population and placements of schools.

Boundaries will be improved where it's doable, but situations like what you're describing are likely to persist after redistricting.

LOL which is easily corrected. Why I should pay for your kids to be bussed when there's a perfectly fine school nearby.

Fine isn’t always good enough for people who can afford better.

If you choose private, that's your business, but I shouldn't be subsidizing segregation.

You don’t subsidize segregation. People choose to segregate themselves. They want to live in neighborhoods with their own ethnic groups. Desegregation is unnatural and costs lots of tax dollars for bussing and unnecessary emotional stress on people. Bussing failed decades ago and will never be successful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Kensington students who go to WJ must cross three major N-S highways: Conn. Ave., Rockville Pike, and Old Georgetown Road. From Kensington to Einstein requires crossing one not-so-major highway: Univ. Blvd. People living in north Kensington can hear the Einstein marching band on football nights.

Don't discount University Boulevard. It's one of the county's worst state highways. However, MCPS currently expects non-TOK students to cross it, so presumably TOK students would also be expected to cross it.

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Anonymous wrote:I hope they can reduce busing costs. Boundaries like Wootton's are terrible. Most of the students live closer to another school.

And then Horizon Hill neighborhood which is walkable, DOESN'T go to Wootton.

In Kensington, many families who live near Einstein also end up being bussed cross-county to WJ. These segregated boundaries from 40 years ago need to go.

Every single time I have read claims like this, and then looked into specifics of the actual boundary, it was immediately clear that the boundaries result from constraints from the distribution of population and placements of schools.

Boundaries will be improved where it's doable, but situations like what you're describing are likely to persist after redistricting.

LOL which is easily corrected. Why I should pay for your kids to be bussed when there's a perfectly fine school nearby.

Fine isn’t always good enough for people who can afford better.

If you choose private, that's your business, but I shouldn't be subsidizing segregation.

You don’t subsidize segregation. People choose to segregate themselves. They want to live in neighborhoods with their own ethnic groups. Desegregation is unnatural and costs lots of tax dollars for bussing and unnecessary emotional stress on people. Bussing failed decades ago and will never be successful.

Damn you, Poe's Law!

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Anonymous wrote:I hope they can reduce busing costs. Boundaries like Wootton's are terrible. Most of the students live closer to another school.

And then Horizon Hill neighborhood which is walkable, DOESN'T go to Wootton.

In Kensington, many families who live near Einstein also end up being bussed cross-county to WJ. These segregated boundaries from 40 years ago need to go.

Every single time I have read claims like this, and then looked into specifics of the actual boundary, it was immediately clear that the boundaries result from constraints from the distribution of population and placements of schools.

Boundaries will be improved where it's doable, but situations like what you're describing are likely to persist after redistricting.

LOL which is easily corrected. Why I should pay for your kids to be bussed when there's a perfectly fine school nearby.

Fine isn’t always good enough for people who can afford better.

If you choose private, that's your business, but I shouldn't be subsidizing segregation.

You don’t subsidize segregation. People choose to segregate themselves. They want to live in neighborhoods with their own ethnic groups. Desegregation is unnatural and costs lots of tax dollars for bussing and unnecessary emotional stress on people. Bussing failed decades ago and will never be successful.

To a lesser extent, but where i have to object is these gerrymandered boundaries like take Wootton for example where 80% of the boundary is closer to another HS. This was done specifically to create a segregated boundary and this is just one of many such examples.

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Anonymous wrote:I hope they can reduce busing costs. Boundaries like Wootton's are terrible. Most of the students live closer to another school.

And then Horizon Hill neighborhood which is walkable, DOESN'T go to Wootton.

In Kensington, many families who live near Einstein also end up being bussed cross-county to WJ. These segregated boundaries from 40 years ago need to go.

Every single time I have read claims like this, and then looked into specifics of the actual boundary, it was immediately clear that the boundaries result from constraints from the distribution of population and placements of schools.

Boundaries will be improved where it's doable, but situations like what you're describing are likely to persist after redistricting.

LOL which is easily corrected. Why I should pay for your kids to be bussed when there's a perfectly fine school nearby.

Fine isn’t always good enough for people who can afford better.

If you choose private, that's your business, but I shouldn't be subsidizing segregation.

You don’t subsidize segregation. People choose to segregate themselves. They want to live in neighborhoods with their own ethnic groups. Desegregation is unnatural and costs lots of tax dollars for bussing and unnecessary emotional stress on people. Bussing failed decades ago and will never be successful.

To a lesser extent, but where i have to object is these gerrymandered boundaries like take Wootton for example where 80% of the boundary is closer to another HS. This was done specifically to create a segregated boundary and this is just one of many such examples.

Citation needed.

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Anonymous wrote:I hope they can reduce busing costs. Boundaries like Wootton's are terrible. Most of the students live closer to another school.

And then Horizon Hill neighborhood which is walkable, DOESN'T go to Wootton.

In Kensington, many families who live near Einstein also end up being bussed cross-county to WJ. These segregated boundaries from 40 years ago need to go.

Every single time I have read claims like this, and then looked into specifics of the actual boundary, it was immediately clear that the boundaries result from constraints from the distribution of population and placements of schools.

Boundaries will be improved where it's doable, but situations like what you're describing are likely to persist after redistricting.

LOL which is easily corrected. Why I should pay for your kids to be bussed when there's a perfectly fine school nearby.

Fine isn’t always good enough for people who can afford better.

If you choose private, that's your business, but I shouldn't be subsidizing segregation.

You don’t subsidize segregation. People choose to segregate themselves. They want to live in neighborhoods with their own ethnic groups. Desegregation is unnatural and costs lots of tax dollars for bussing and unnecessary emotional stress on people. Bussing failed decades ago and will never be successful.

To a lesser extent, but where i have to object is these gerrymandered boundaries like take Wootton for example where 80% of the boundary is closer to another HS. This was done specifically to create a segregated boundary and this is just one of many such examples.

Citation needed.

easy just look at the boundaries it's self-evident

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Anonymous wrote:I hope they can reduce busing costs. Boundaries like Wootton's are terrible. Most of the students live closer to another school.

And then Horizon Hill neighborhood which is walkable, DOESN'T go to Wootton.

In Kensington, many families who live near Einstein also end up being bussed cross-county to WJ. These segregated boundaries from 40 years ago need to go.

Every single time I have read claims like this, and then looked into specifics of the actual boundary, it was immediately clear that the boundaries result from constraints from the distribution of population and placements of schools.

Boundaries will be improved where it's doable, but situations like what you're describing are likely to persist after redistricting.

LOL which is easily corrected. Why I should pay for your kids to be bussed when there's a perfectly fine school nearby.

Fine isn’t always good enough for people who can afford better.

If you choose private, that's your business, but I shouldn't be subsidizing segregation.

You don’t subsidize segregation. People choose to segregate themselves. They want to live in neighborhoods with their own ethnic groups. Desegregation is unnatural and costs lots of tax dollars for bussing and unnecessary emotional stress on people. Bussing failed decades ago and will never be successful.

To a lesser extent, but where i have to object is these gerrymandered boundaries like take Wootton for example where 80% of the boundary is closer to another HS. This was done specifically to create a segregated boundary and this is just one of many such examples.

Citation needed.

easy just look at the boundaries it's self-evident

It’s not at all. Many HS are all close together. Walking distance of Wootton doesn’t have many houses.
There are a lot of people who are looking forward to this redistricting so they can benefit from being rezoned into Wootton.

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The real reason we have so much bussing in Montgomery County is suburban sprawl. If so many people didn't insist on living on massive lots with private parks behind their houses, everyone could live a lot closer to their school. There should be an extra school bus tax for people who live on big lots.

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Anonymous wrote:I hope they can reduce busing costs. Boundaries like Wootton's are terrible. Most of the students live closer to another school.

And then Horizon Hill neighborhood which is walkable, DOESN'T go to Wootton.

In Kensington, many families who live near Einstein also end up being bussed cross-county to WJ. These segregated boundaries from 40 years ago need to go.

Every single time I have read claims like this, and then looked into specifics of the actual boundary, it was immediately clear that the boundaries result from constraints from the distribution of population and placements of schools.

Boundaries will be improved where it's doable, but situations like what you're describing are likely to persist after redistricting.

LOL which is easily corrected. Why I should pay for your kids to be bussed when there's a perfectly fine school nearby.

Fine isn’t always good enough for people who can afford better.

If you choose private, that's your business, but I shouldn't be subsidizing segregation.

You don’t subsidize segregation. People choose to segregate themselves. They want to live in neighborhoods with their own ethnic groups. Desegregation is unnatural and costs lots of tax dollars for bussing and unnecessary emotional stress on people. Bussing failed decades ago and will never be successful.

To a lesser extent, but where i have to object is these gerrymandered boundaries like take Wootton for example where 80% of the boundary is closer to another HS. This was done specifically to create a segregated boundary and this is just one of many such examples.

Citation needed.

easy just look at the boundaries it's self-evident

It’s not at all. Many HS are all close together. Walking distance of Wootton doesn’t have many houses.
There are a lot of people who are looking forward to this redistricting so they can benefit from being rezoned into Wootton.

What? Crown is being built a few miles north for hundreds of millions of dollars, and it's going to need people zoned to it to justify its existence. Who are you expecting to get redistricted INTO Wootton?