David Trone for senate

Anonymous
To the people who are legitimately worried (and I guess the Republicans who are legitimately excited)-- this is a Senate race in 2024.

Gubernatorial elections are not comparable. You can have people who are incredibly popular and beloved as governors, but then they run for Senate and the result is dictated by national politics.

And, fwiw, Alsobrooks is a way better candidate than Ben Jealous (Brown was a solid candidate, but there was a tax revolt, 2014 was a terrible Democratic year nationwide, and Brown didn't take things seriously until near the end).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Alsobrooks had more votes than the GOP combined. The excitement for her is really understated in the media.


She had the weight of Raskin and the party behind her.

Interestingly, she doesn’t speak in her own commercial with Raskin. She’s not that impressive.

I recognized a beloved mcps teacher/admin in Trone’s commercial—a black woman. Interesting that a black female educator didn’t support Alsobrooks.

I bet Hogan will win. Long history of black candidates from PG County who simply can’t carry the state. Plus: he has name recognition.


I'm starting to think that "she's not that impressive" is code for "she's a black woman from Prince George's County".


Maybe think about why she’s literally standing next to Raskin in her own commercial and they dubbed over whatever she was obviously saying since her lips were moving and she was clearly speaking?

I mean, that’s my point: her own party doesn’t think she’s equipped to speak in her own commercial. That’s what leads me to believe she’s not that impressive (among other things…like her own record in PG County).

The party tapped her because she needed them and likely sold her soul to bankroll her campaign. Trone didn’t need the party’s money and made clear he couldn’t be controlled.

As a Dem, I hope she beats Hogan. But don’t forget that Hogan easily won a second term, defeating a black Dem from PG County with experience in Annapolis.

If Hogan gets teachers or unions, he’s set.

Alsobrooks doesn’t have the best reputation with state and county employees.


Hogan is not getting teachers or unions— except maybe the cops. It’s weird and depressing how Alsobrooks completely overperformed vs expectations against Trone, will be running in a very blue state against someone who is anti-choice in a year when abortion rights are very clearly on the ballot, and all these posters are talking about how much trouble she’ll have.

Hogan is the underdog here although it may be competitive and people who argue she is doomed either have an agenda or just don’t know what they are talking about.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Alsobrooks had more votes than the GOP combined. The excitement for her is really understated in the media.


She had the weight of Raskin and the party behind her.

Interestingly, she doesn’t speak in her own commercial with Raskin. She’s not that impressive.

I recognized a beloved mcps teacher/admin in Trone’s commercial—a black woman. Interesting that a black female educator didn’t support Alsobrooks.

I bet Hogan will win. Long history of black candidates from PG County who simply can’t carry the state. Plus: he has name recognition.


I'm starting to think that "she's not that impressive" is code for "she's a black woman from Prince George's County".


Yup.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Alsobrooks had more votes than the GOP combined. The excitement for her is really understated in the media.


She had the weight of Raskin and the party behind her.

Interestingly, she doesn’t speak in her own commercial with Raskin. She’s not that impressive.

I recognized a beloved mcps teacher/admin in Trone’s commercial—a black woman. Interesting that a black female educator didn’t support Alsobrooks.

I bet Hogan will win. Long history of black candidates from PG County who simply can’t carry the state. Plus: he has name recognition.


Hogan never had to run in a presidential election year. Plus, senators and governors are very different. People will be thinking about the Supreme Court. These two factors should get Alsobrooks to 51%.

It’s obvious there are several DCUM posters focused on the Supreme Court, but I think you are overestimating how much the average moderate in say Howard or Anne Arundel or Frederick counties is focused on it. I think it’s obvious Alsobrooks will do well in MoCo and PG, but it’s the other large counties that aren’t as deep Blue as MoCo and PG that will really decide this race.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Alsobrooks had more votes than the GOP combined. The excitement for her is really understated in the media.


She had the weight of Raskin and the party behind her.

Interestingly, she doesn’t speak in her own commercial with Raskin. She’s not that impressive.

I recognized a beloved mcps teacher/admin in Trone’s commercial—a black woman. Interesting that a black female educator didn’t support Alsobrooks.

I bet Hogan will win. Long history of black candidates from PG County who simply can’t carry the state. Plus: he has name recognition.


Hogan never had to run in a presidential election year. Plus, senators and governors are very different. People will be thinking about the Supreme Court. These two factors should get Alsobrooks to 51%.

It’s obvious there are several DCUM posters focused on the Supreme Court, but I think you are overestimating how much the average moderate in say Howard or Anne Arundel or Frederick counties is focused on it. I think it’s obvious Alsobrooks will do well in MoCo and PG, but it’s the other large counties that aren’t as deep Blue as MoCo and PG that will really decide this race.


I think you're underestimating how many people believe women should have reproductive rights, and vote accordingly.
Anonymous
Trone's loss bodes well for democracy in the sense that it once again confirms that wealthy people can't just buy elections.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:MoCo voter who voted for Trone but will quickly switch to Alsobrooks in the general. I worry more about HoCo, Frederick, Charles, etc.
I think Alsobrooks is actually more conservative than Trone but everyone just assumes she’s more left because she’s a Black woman and he’s a white business man.


A LOT more conservative.... she was the state cop for PG. She supported blue lives over black lives


It’s always eyerollingly pathetic reading the bleatings of white liberals who think they accurately imagine what it’s like to be a black person in a high crime neighborhood.

Do you even comprehend that most black people fear being crime victims wayyyyyy more than being police victims??? Of course you don’t. Because you’re a simpleton who believes your own stereotypes and cliches. Black people want safe places to live. And they understand you need police doing their jobs to achieve that. And they’ll support people who will work to make their community safer. And that’s what she did as a prosecutor and county exec.

Stick to protesting Israel or making posts about whatever Trump said today. Because you don’t know sh!t about black folks or PG county.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Alsobrooks had more votes than the GOP combined. The excitement for her is really understated in the media.


She had the weight of Raskin and the party behind her.

Interestingly, she doesn’t speak in her own commercial with Raskin. She’s not that impressive.

I recognized a beloved mcps teacher/admin in Trone’s commercial—a black woman. Interesting that a black female educator didn’t support Alsobrooks.

I bet Hogan will win. Long history of black candidates from PG County who simply can’t carry the state. Plus: he has name recognition.


I'm starting to think that "she's not that impressive" is code for "she's a black woman from Prince George's County".


Maybe think about why she’s literally standing next to Raskin in her own commercial and they dubbed over whatever she was obviously saying since her lips were moving and she was clearly speaking?

I mean, that’s my point: her own party doesn’t think she’s equipped to speak in her own commercial. That’s what leads me to believe she’s not that impressive (among other things…like her own record in PG County).

The party tapped her because she needed them and likely sold her soul to bankroll her campaign. Trone didn’t need the party’s money and made clear he couldn’t be controlled.

As a Dem, I hope she beats Hogan. But don’t forget that Hogan easily won a second term, defeating a black Dem from PG County with experience in Annapolis.

If Hogan gets teachers or unions, he’s set.

Alsobrooks doesn’t have the best reputation with state and county employees.


Hogan is not getting teachers or unions— except maybe the cops. It’s weird and depressing how Alsobrooks completely overperformed vs expectations against Trone, will be running in a very blue state against someone who is anti-choice in a year when abortion rights are very clearly on the ballot, and all these posters are talking about how much trouble she’ll have.

Hogan is the underdog here although it may be competitive and people who argue she is doomed either have an agenda or just don’t know what they are talking about.


She is anything but doomed. This will be a tough race and Hogan knows it. I’m voting for Hogan but I can see how people view her as an attractive candidate.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:In the race for governor, Hogan beat a democrat...twice. I think he has a decent chance of doing it again, in the senate race.


In the race for governor, which happens in non-presidential years, Hogan beat a bad candidate, twice.

Now he's running for senator, in a presidential year, against a good candidate.


I nearly voted for Hogan when he ran for his 2nd term, even though I always vote for democrats. I was happy with him as our governor for 8 years. I wouldn't DREAM of voting for him in this senate race, the stakes are completely different and I am sure hoping any dems who voted for him as governor realize that.

+1 and this philosophy has been borne out in other states like Tennessee and Montana who had extremely popular D governors who lost races for Senate.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Still voting for Hogan/Biden


Hogan adds a vote to the GOP in the senate which means abortion bans and crappy judges.


He won’t vote to ban abortion. We need more senators who are sensible and willing to cross the aisle to work with the other side. He could be the new Manchin.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Still voting for Hogan/Biden


Hogan adds a vote to the GOP in the senate which means abortion bans and crappy judges.


He won’t vote to ban abortion. We need more senators who are sensible and willing to cross the aisle to work with the other side. He could be the new Manchin.


Yes, he will. He has consistently, throughout his whole public life, opposed women's reproductive rights. Don't look at what he's saying right now; look at what he's done.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Alsobrooks had more votes than the GOP combined. The excitement for her is really understated in the media.


She had the weight of Raskin and the party behind her.

Interestingly, she doesn’t speak in her own commercial with Raskin. She’s not that impressive.

I recognized a beloved mcps teacher/admin in Trone’s commercial—a black woman. Interesting that a black female educator didn’t support Alsobrooks.

I bet Hogan will win. Long history of black candidates from PG County who simply can’t carry the state. Plus: he has name recognition.


I'm starting to think that "she's not that impressive" is code for "she's a black woman from Prince George's County".


Unfortunately, Black women from PG county aren't making an impression on the state.

Hogan won two elections for Governor. The main problem he faces is fear of what a Republican majority would do, not himself specifically. That's a point in Alsobrooks's favor, but not something impressive about her.

I didn't see anything about Alsobrooks except for one yard sign 2 weeks ago. I also remember a commercial recently, but I don't remember who the candidate they were. That's not impressive either, for whoever it was.

Finally, it seems petty, but "Alsobrooks" is an cool but awkward name. As a fellow awkward name holder, I know that harms popularity.


She just last night blew out Trone in the primary. 243,637 voters voted for her. The vote total for governor in the Republican primary, for all candidates combined, was 238,469. So it seems like maybe black women from PG County actually are making an impression on the state.


Sorry, but no. Hard NO.

She’s totally unfit for the job. The US Senate isn’t PG county, and you don’t send someone so woefully unprepared to the Senate. She’s going to be a laughingstock.

Trone was the only serious option. A seasoned member of Congress, familiar with navigating the halls of power, and not beholden to anyone. He should’ve been the obvious, runaway choice for the Senate seat. But people got caught up in the emotion of wanting to vote for a Black woman. Any Black woman would do, in this case. Just be Black. And a woman. Qualified? What’s that mean? Who cares, right? Just vote for the Black woman. That’s what got us here.

That’s it, I’m done. I’m out. I’ll NEVER vote for Hogan or any other GQP’r rethuglicans, but I’m not voting for her either. I won’t be responsible for sending someone so woefully unqualified to the Senate.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Alsobrooks had more votes than the GOP combined. The excitement for her is really understated in the media.


She had the weight of Raskin and the party behind her.

Interestingly, she doesn’t speak in her own commercial with Raskin. She’s not that impressive.

I recognized a beloved mcps teacher/admin in Trone’s commercial—a black woman. Interesting that a black female educator didn’t support Alsobrooks.

I bet Hogan will win. Long history of black candidates from PG County who simply can’t carry the state. Plus: he has name recognition.


I'm starting to think that "she's not that impressive" is code for "she's a black woman from Prince George's County".


Unfortunately, Black women from PG county aren't making an impression on the state.

Hogan won two elections for Governor. The main problem he faces is fear of what a Republican majority would do, not himself specifically. That's a point in Alsobrooks's favor, but not something impressive about her.

I didn't see anything about Alsobrooks except for one yard sign 2 weeks ago. I also remember a commercial recently, but I don't remember who the candidate they were. That's not impressive either, for whoever it was.

Finally, it seems petty, but "Alsobrooks" is an cool but awkward name. As a fellow awkward name holder, I know that harms popularity.


She just last night blew out Trone in the primary. 243,637 voters voted for her. The vote total for governor in the Republican primary, for all candidates combined, was 238,469. So it seems like maybe black women from PG County actually are making an impression on the state.


Sorry, but no. Hard NO.

She’s totally unfit for the job. The US Senate isn’t PG county, and you don’t send someone so woefully unprepared to the Senate. She’s going to be a laughingstock.

Trone was the only serious option. A seasoned member of Congress, familiar with navigating the halls of power, and not beholden to anyone. He should’ve been the obvious, runaway choice for the Senate seat. But people got caught up in the emotion of wanting to vote for a Black woman. Any Black woman would do, in this case. Just be Black. And a woman. Qualified? What’s that mean? Who cares, right? Just vote for the Black woman. That’s what got us here.

That’s it, I’m done. I’m out. I’ll NEVER vote for Hogan or any other GQP’r rethuglicans, but I’m not voting for her either. I won’t be responsible for sending someone so woefully unqualified to the Senate.


Trone lost because he thinks throwing large amounts of money at the situation is a campaign and it's just not. He consistently turns people off the way he campaigns. He got destroyed by Alsobrooks despite spending 10x as much money.

Throwing a tantrum because the person you favored in the primary lost is silly.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Still voting for Hogan/Biden


Hogan adds a vote to the GOP in the senate which means abortion bans and crappy judges.


He won’t vote to ban abortion. We need more senators who are sensible and willing to cross the aisle to work with the other side. He could be the new Manchin.


Yes, he will. He has consistently, throughout his whole public life, opposed women's reproductive rights. Don't look at what he's saying right now; look at what he's done.


+100. You can also see it in how he has refused to say anything on the topic. Maybe at some point he will try to come up with some waffley “middle ground” but the fact that he won’t give a position is an obvious sign he has extreme (for MD at least) views.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Still voting for Hogan/Biden


Hogan adds a vote to the GOP in the senate which means abortion bans and crappy judges.


He won’t vote to ban abortion. We need more senators who are sensible and willing to cross the aisle to work with the other side. He could be the new Manchin.


Yes, he will. He has consistently, throughout his whole public life, opposed women's reproductive rights. Don't look at what he's saying right now; look at what he's done.


+100. You can also see it in how he has refused to say anything on the topic. Maybe at some point he will try to come up with some waffley “middle ground” but the fact that he won’t give a position is an obvious sign he has extreme (for MD at least) views.


He'll probably pull a Youngkin and try to claim 15 weeks is reasonable (it's not, for the record).
Forum Index » Metropolitan DC Local Politics
Go to: