Boycott/ Divest and Pull your College App from All States which violate Our Daughters' Civil Rights

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, I would never ever send my daughter to one of these states for college, and that unfortunately may include Virginia soon.


Great!

Will be easier for my kid to get into UVA!!

Seriously you will skip a top college like UVA, Rice, etc in these states for the ruling of the govt in that state? It’s not the colleges’s fault and they are not going to leave the state either. Anyways , your kids are only in school for like 6 months anyways…


What they type here and what they do when their kids get rejected from the other schools because of increased competition is very different.


These Red state Universities that today denied our daughters' their civil rights will go belly Up when we pull our daughters and son's college Apps

They have literally already committed the funds from this years admission yields to formulate their staff budget,the health insurance payments for their faculty, their returee pensions and the payments on their debt

The price for treating our daughters as less than equal citizens and exposing them to a Felony record is mass default to:

Tulane, Emory, Vanderbilt, Wash- U, Furman, Texas- Austin, Ole Miss, University of Kentucky... on and on and on

Each and every family will be taking its 200,00- $ 250,000 ( 1/4 million dollars ) tuition elsewhere.....

Your states will return to being economic backwaters


Did you ever stop to think that someone else can take those seats you choose to vacate?


DP Are you familiar with the phrase "out of state tuition?" It's different than what residents pay. Universities tend to like it.


So only people from Alabama will go to colleges in Alabama?


Look, I know what Alabama is like. UAB supports an incredible medical hub and great medical education. Alabama worked really hard to build that. They were rightfully proud of it.

But ... all that now comes with even bigger asterisk. So sure, if you have kids in Mississippi whose parents can afford out of state tuition, then maybe? But it's cheaper to go to Mississippi. The real money was coming from states not in the South.

And those wealthy Southerners are not going to want their kids' degrees to come with that big asterisk. Why would they pay OOS for Alabama, when they could afford a degree not tainted with the yee-haw hillbilly work?

You all have lost the progress you were working on for decades. Decades, and generations.

I'm a Northerner with a degree from UAB, which I knew because I grew up a cardiac kid, and the father-son Kirklin team in Birmingham with the clinic designed by I.M. Pei had perfected the technique I needed.

I spent a lot of conversations trying to explain the "new Alabama" to people. It was a damn hard sell. But if that was hard, just think about trying to sell something nobody wants to buy anymore. Sorry, you guys lost the ball on this one. That's something you will have to deal with. I guess it's worth it to you. Oh, well.


“It was cool for me to go to Bama for my top-notch medical education, but post-Dobbs nobody can or should go to Bama for their top-notch education.”

Whatever.

Go look at the teeny tiny map that shows the few states who still have abortion rights. Are you really suggesting everyone limits ourselves that way?

Did you see that Wisconsin is regressing? It’s not just the south.


Ah. Do you always confuse "can or should" with "want to?"


Actually, I’m underscoring the judgmental aspect of the post. It was totes cool for them to go to Bama (precisely because of the high quality education/specialized renowned program), but now it’s a terrible choice because the world will judge them. Never mind the highly specialized program; just stick to New England lest anyone judge you…with their bias based on abortion.


No, I didn't say "it's a terrible choice."

Get this through your apparently thick skull: I said that even fewer people seem to be willing to make that choice. I'm just pointing that out.

Also, "Oh, well."


Go read the dcum college thread. Applications at Auburn were off the hook this year. Kids with 4.0s were rejected.

The uptick in applications to southern schools is real. Those schools aren’t hurting for applications. Kids from northern and coastal states are heading south in droves. Google it, or go check out the dcum college forum.


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Such wishful thinking, that somehow all these great southern schools will be lacking applicants.


They won’t be lacking applicants. They will be lacking blue state and liberal applicants. This will most definitely lower their ranking for years. As a Duke graduate, I can promise you that the brilliant kids who go on to graduate programs were all generally from the north.


And those brilliant kids from the north will continue to go to Duke. Go read the dcum college thread.


I don’t think so, PP. And as a retired college administrator I can guarantee you that there were emergency meetings at all the schools in the country - those fearing a loss of out of state students and those anticipating an influx of out of state students.

Duke is freaking out.


So, links to these claims? None? Didn't think so.
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Duke is freaking out. NP here.


And so I'm sure you have links to support that claim. Still waiting.


Why do you need a link to prove something is true? And why do you care if duke loses applicants? These southern schools had a nice run, but now it’s over.


Thank you for admitting you're simply stating your opinion and that opinion has no basis in reality or truth. Moving on...


Stop embarrassing yourself, PP. Your diversion tactics don’t work. NP here and I understand that you’re embarrassed to be wrong but you are the one who needs to move on.


On the contrary, I haven't made absurd claims without any links to back them up. Nowhere is there any evidence that "Duke is freaking out." Only in your silly little hive minds. Wishful thinking at its finest.
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Anonymous wrote:Some of us parents are not paying for college. Our kids are taking out loans and getting scholarships, working and living OOS and attending college. We realize we have zero say in where they attend college.

Such a foreign thought to so many of the posters here, but it happens every single year.


No one is doubting that.

That said, as a woman who joined the army for the college scholarship and paid for everything, 100%, I still have enormous respect and admiration for my mother and if she thought going to x state for college would endanger my health or was against her principles, I would have listened to her.

My girls are the same. They would hear out my rationale and respect my opinion.


My spouse and I cancel each other’s vote. My kids do not vote the same either one of us so, we respect each other’s decision including going to school in states that don’t support our decisions.


NP here. I couldn’t be in a marriage like that. “people are their principles”.

I know my kids and they would respect my feeling on their choice of college even if they were paying for it themselves.


You realize you can respect someone’s feelings and opinions even when you disagree with them.
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DS was considering a red state for grad school. Scratched off the list now.
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Anonymous wrote:Yes, I would never ever send my daughter to one of these states for college, and that unfortunately may include Virginia soon.


Great!

Will be easier for my kid to get into UVA!!

Seriously you will skip a top college like UVA, Rice, etc in these states for the ruling of the govt in that state? It’s not the colleges’s fault and they are not going to leave the state either. Anyways , your kids are only in school for like 6 months anyways…


What they type here and what they do when their kids get rejected from the other schools because of increased competition is very different.


These Red state Universities that today denied our daughters' their civil rights will go belly Up when we pull our daughters and son's college Apps

They have literally already committed the funds from this years admission yields to formulate their staff budget,the health insurance payments for their faculty, their returee pensions and the payments on their debt

The price for treating our daughters as less than equal citizens and exposing them to a Felony record is mass default to:

Tulane, Emory, Vanderbilt, Wash- U, Furman, Texas- Austin, Ole Miss, University of Kentucky... on and on and on

Each and every family will be taking its 200,00- $ 250,000 ( 1/4 million dollars ) tuition elsewhere.....

Your states will return to being economic backwaters


Did you ever stop to think that someone else can take those seats you choose to vacate?


DP Are you familiar with the phrase "out of state tuition?" It's different than what residents pay. Universities tend to like it.


So only people from Alabama will go to colleges in Alabama?


Look, I know what Alabama is like. UAB supports an incredible medical hub and great medical education. Alabama worked really hard to build that. They were rightfully proud of it.

But ... all that now comes with even bigger asterisk. So sure, if you have kids in Mississippi whose parents can afford out of state tuition, then maybe? But it's cheaper to go to Mississippi. The real money was coming from states not in the South.

And those wealthy Southerners are not going to want their kids' degrees to come with that big asterisk. Why would they pay OOS for Alabama, when they could afford a degree not tainted with the yee-haw hillbilly work?

You all have lost the progress you were working on for decades. Decades, and generations.

I'm a Northerner with a degree from UAB, which I knew because I grew up a cardiac kid, and the father-son Kirklin team in Birmingham with the clinic designed by I.M. Pei had perfected the technique I needed.

I spent a lot of conversations trying to explain the "new Alabama" to people. It was a damn hard sell. But if that was hard, just think about trying to sell something nobody wants to buy anymore. Sorry, you guys lost the ball on this one. That's something you will have to deal with. I guess it's worth it to you. Oh, well.


“It was cool for me to go to Bama for my top-notch medical education, but post-Dobbs nobody can or should go to Bama for their top-notch education.”

Whatever.

Go look at the teeny tiny map that shows the few states who still have abortion rights. Are you really suggesting everyone limits ourselves that way?

Did you see that Wisconsin is regressing? It’s not just the south.


Ah. Do you always confuse "can or should" with "want to?"


Actually, I’m underscoring the judgmental aspect of the post. It was totes cool for them to go to Bama (precisely because of the high quality education/specialized renowned program), but now it’s a terrible choice because the world will judge them. Never mind the highly specialized program; just stick to New England lest anyone judge you…with their bias based on abortion.


No, I didn't say "it's a terrible choice."

Get this through your apparently thick skull: I said that even fewer people seem to be willing to make that choice. I'm just pointing that out.

Also, "Oh, well."


Go read the dcum college thread. Applications at Auburn were off the hook this year. Kids with 4.0s were rejected.

The uptick in applications to southern schools is real. Those schools aren’t hurting for applications. Kids from northern and coastal states are heading south in droves. Google it, or go check out the dcum college forum.


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Such wishful thinking, that somehow all these great southern schools will be lacking applicants.


They won’t be lacking applicants. They will be lacking blue state and liberal applicants. This will most definitely lower their ranking for years. As a Duke graduate, I can promise you that the brilliant kids who go on to graduate programs were all generally from the north.


And those brilliant kids from the north will continue to go to Duke. Go read the dcum college thread.


I don’t think so, PP. And as a retired college administrator I can guarantee you that there were emergency meetings at all the schools in the country - those fearing a loss of out of state students and those anticipating an influx of out of state students.

Duke is freaking out.


So, links to these claims? None? Didn't think so.
DP



Duke is freaking out. NP here.


And so I'm sure you have links to support that claim. Still waiting.


Why do you need a link to prove something is true? And why do you care if duke loses applicants? These southern schools had a nice run, but now it’s over.


Thank you for admitting you're simply stating your opinion and that opinion has no basis in reality or truth. Moving on...


Stop embarrassing yourself, PP. Your diversion tactics don’t work. NP here and I understand that you’re embarrassed to be wrong but you are the one who needs to move on.


On the contrary, I haven't made absurd claims without any links to back them up. Nowhere is there any evidence that "Duke is freaking out." Only in your silly little hive minds. Wishful thinking at its finest.


It happened on Friday, PP. The poster know college administration. What proof did you want? He/she gave us an inside perspective on what was most likely happening.

So stop with the childish name calling. Post “I don’t agree based on my experience” and move on.
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Anonymous wrote:Some of us parents are not paying for college. Our kids are taking out loans and getting scholarships, working and living OOS and attending college. We realize we have zero say in where they attend college.

Such a foreign thought to so many of the posters here, but it happens every single year.


No one is doubting that.

That said, as a woman who joined the army for the college scholarship and paid for everything, 100%, I still have enormous respect and admiration for my mother and if she thought going to x state for college would endanger my health or was against her principles, I would have listened to her.

My girls are the same. They would hear out my rationale and respect my opinion.


My spouse and I cancel each other’s vote. My kids do not vote the same either one of us so, we respect each other’s decision including going to school in states that don’t support our decisions.


NP here. I couldn’t be in a marriage like that. “people are their principles”.

I know my kids and they would respect my feeling on their choice of college even if they were paying for it themselves.


You realize you can respect someone’s feelings and opinions even when you disagree with them.



Yes, of course. But if I said “no schools in Texas - please - I don’t think it’s safe for you” she would respect my feelings and go elsewhere. She’s a fiercely independent woman but respects me.
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Anonymous wrote:Yes, I would never ever send my daughter to one of these states for college, and that unfortunately may include Virginia soon.


Great!

Will be easier for my kid to get into UVA!!

Seriously you will skip a top college like UVA, Rice, etc in these states for the ruling of the govt in that state? It’s not the colleges’s fault and they are not going to leave the state either. Anyways , your kids are only in school for like 6 months anyways…


What they type here and what they do when their kids get rejected from the other schools because of increased competition is very different.


These Red state Universities that today denied our daughters' their civil rights will go belly Up when we pull our daughters and son's college Apps

They have literally already committed the funds from this years admission yields to formulate their staff budget,the health insurance payments for their faculty, their returee pensions and the payments on their debt

The price for treating our daughters as less than equal citizens and exposing them to a Felony record is mass default to:

Tulane, Emory, Vanderbilt, Wash- U, Furman, Texas- Austin, Ole Miss, University of Kentucky... on and on and on

Each and every family will be taking its 200,00- $ 250,000 ( 1/4 million dollars ) tuition elsewhere.....

Your states will return to being economic backwaters


Did you ever stop to think that someone else can take those seats you choose to vacate?


DP Are you familiar with the phrase "out of state tuition?" It's different than what residents pay. Universities tend to like it.


So only people from Alabama will go to colleges in Alabama?


Look, I know what Alabama is like. UAB supports an incredible medical hub and great medical education. Alabama worked really hard to build that. They were rightfully proud of it.

But ... all that now comes with even bigger asterisk. So sure, if you have kids in Mississippi whose parents can afford out of state tuition, then maybe? But it's cheaper to go to Mississippi. The real money was coming from states not in the South.

And those wealthy Southerners are not going to want their kids' degrees to come with that big asterisk. Why would they pay OOS for Alabama, when they could afford a degree not tainted with the yee-haw hillbilly work?

You all have lost the progress you were working on for decades. Decades, and generations.

I'm a Northerner with a degree from UAB, which I knew because I grew up a cardiac kid, and the father-son Kirklin team in Birmingham with the clinic designed by I.M. Pei had perfected the technique I needed.

I spent a lot of conversations trying to explain the "new Alabama" to people. It was a damn hard sell. But if that was hard, just think about trying to sell something nobody wants to buy anymore. Sorry, you guys lost the ball on this one. That's something you will have to deal with. I guess it's worth it to you. Oh, well.


“It was cool for me to go to Bama for my top-notch medical education, but post-Dobbs nobody can or should go to Bama for their top-notch education.”

Whatever.

Go look at the teeny tiny map that shows the few states who still have abortion rights. Are you really suggesting everyone limits ourselves that way?

Did you see that Wisconsin is regressing? It’s not just the south.


Ah. Do you always confuse "can or should" with "want to?"


Actually, I’m underscoring the judgmental aspect of the post. It was totes cool for them to go to Bama (precisely because of the high quality education/specialized renowned program), but now it’s a terrible choice because the world will judge them. Never mind the highly specialized program; just stick to New England lest anyone judge you…with their bias based on abortion.


No, I didn't say "it's a terrible choice."

Get this through your apparently thick skull: I said that even fewer people seem to be willing to make that choice. I'm just pointing that out.

Also, "Oh, well."


Go read the dcum college thread. Applications at Auburn were off the hook this year. Kids with 4.0s were rejected.

The uptick in applications to southern schools is real. Those schools aren’t hurting for applications. Kids from northern and coastal states are heading south in droves. Google it, or go check out the dcum college forum.


+1
Such wishful thinking, that somehow all these great southern schools will be lacking applicants.


They won’t be lacking applicants. They will be lacking blue state and liberal applicants. This will most definitely lower their ranking for years. As a Duke graduate, I can promise you that the brilliant kids who go on to graduate programs were all generally from the north.


And those brilliant kids from the north will continue to go to Duke. Go read the dcum college thread.


I don’t think so, PP. And as a retired college administrator I can guarantee you that there were emergency meetings at all the schools in the country - those fearing a loss of out of state students and those anticipating an influx of out of state students.

Duke is freaking out.


So, links to these claims? None? Didn't think so.
DP



Duke is freaking out. NP here.


And so I'm sure you have links to support that claim. Still waiting.


Why do you need a link to prove something is true? And why do you care if duke loses applicants? These southern schools had a nice run, but now it’s over.


Thank you for admitting you're simply stating your opinion and that opinion has no basis in reality or truth. Moving on...


Stop embarrassing yourself, PP. Your diversion tactics don’t work. NP here and I understand that you’re embarrassed to be wrong but you are the one who needs to move on.


On the contrary, I haven't made absurd claims without any links to back them up. Nowhere is there any evidence that "Duke is freaking out." Only in your silly little hive minds. Wishful thinking at its finest.


It happened on Friday, PP. The poster know college administration. What proof did you want? He/she gave us an inside perspective on what was most likely happening.

So stop with the childish name calling. Post “I don’t agree based on my experience” and move on.


An anonymous poster claims to know Duke college administration. You go right ahead and believe that fiction. Doesn't mean I have to. And btw - I don't see you calling out your fellow liberals and their "childish name calling." Typical.
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Anonymous wrote:Yes, I would never ever send my daughter to one of these states for college, and that unfortunately may include Virginia soon.


Great!

Will be easier for my kid to get into UVA!!

Seriously you will skip a top college like UVA, Rice, etc in these states for the ruling of the govt in that state? It’s not the colleges’s fault and they are not going to leave the state either. Anyways , your kids are only in school for like 6 months anyways…


What they type here and what they do when their kids get rejected from the other schools because of increased competition is very different.


These Red state Universities that today denied our daughters' their civil rights will go belly Up when we pull our daughters and son's college Apps

They have literally already committed the funds from this years admission yields to formulate their staff budget,the health insurance payments for their faculty, their returee pensions and the payments on their debt

The price for treating our daughters as less than equal citizens and exposing them to a Felony record is mass default to:

Tulane, Emory, Vanderbilt, Wash- U, Furman, Texas- Austin, Ole Miss, University of Kentucky... on and on and on

Each and every family will be taking its 200,00- $ 250,000 ( 1/4 million dollars ) tuition elsewhere.....

Your states will return to being economic backwaters


Did you ever stop to think that someone else can take those seats you choose to vacate?


DP Are you familiar with the phrase "out of state tuition?" It's different than what residents pay. Universities tend to like it.


So only people from Alabama will go to colleges in Alabama?


Look, I know what Alabama is like. UAB supports an incredible medical hub and great medical education. Alabama worked really hard to build that. They were rightfully proud of it.

But ... all that now comes with even bigger asterisk. So sure, if you have kids in Mississippi whose parents can afford out of state tuition, then maybe? But it's cheaper to go to Mississippi. The real money was coming from states not in the South.

And those wealthy Southerners are not going to want their kids' degrees to come with that big asterisk. Why would they pay OOS for Alabama, when they could afford a degree not tainted with the yee-haw hillbilly work?

You all have lost the progress you were working on for decades. Decades, and generations.

I'm a Northerner with a degree from UAB, which I knew because I grew up a cardiac kid, and the father-son Kirklin team in Birmingham with the clinic designed by I.M. Pei had perfected the technique I needed.

I spent a lot of conversations trying to explain the "new Alabama" to people. It was a damn hard sell. But if that was hard, just think about trying to sell something nobody wants to buy anymore. Sorry, you guys lost the ball on this one. That's something you will have to deal with. I guess it's worth it to you. Oh, well.


“It was cool for me to go to Bama for my top-notch medical education, but post-Dobbs nobody can or should go to Bama for their top-notch education.”

Whatever.

Go look at the teeny tiny map that shows the few states who still have abortion rights. Are you really suggesting everyone limits ourselves that way?

Did you see that Wisconsin is regressing? It’s not just the south.


Ah. Do you always confuse "can or should" with "want to?"


Actually, I’m underscoring the judgmental aspect of the post. It was totes cool for them to go to Bama (precisely because of the high quality education/specialized renowned program), but now it’s a terrible choice because the world will judge them. Never mind the highly specialized program; just stick to New England lest anyone judge you…with their bias based on abortion.


No, I didn't say "it's a terrible choice."

Get this through your apparently thick skull: I said that even fewer people seem to be willing to make that choice. I'm just pointing that out.

Also, "Oh, well."


Go read the dcum college thread. Applications at Auburn were off the hook this year. Kids with 4.0s were rejected.

The uptick in applications to southern schools is real. Those schools aren’t hurting for applications. Kids from northern and coastal states are heading south in droves. Google it, or go check out the dcum college forum.


+1
Such wishful thinking, that somehow all these great southern schools will be lacking applicants.


They won’t be lacking applicants. They will be lacking blue state and liberal applicants. This will most definitely lower their ranking for years. As a Duke graduate, I can promise you that the brilliant kids who go on to graduate programs were all generally from the north.


And those brilliant kids from the north will continue to go to Duke. Go read the dcum college thread.


I don’t think so, PP. And as a retired college administrator I can guarantee you that there were emergency meetings at all the schools in the country - those fearing a loss of out of state students and those anticipating an influx of out of state students.

Duke is freaking out.


So, links to these claims? None? Didn't think so.
DP



Duke is freaking out. NP here.


And so I'm sure you have links to support that claim. Still waiting.


Why do you need a link to prove something is true? And why do you care if duke loses applicants? These southern schools had a nice run, but now it’s over.


Thank you for admitting you're simply stating your opinion and that opinion has no basis in reality or truth. Moving on...


Stop embarrassing yourself, PP. Your diversion tactics don’t work. NP here and I understand that you’re embarrassed to be wrong but you are the one who needs to move on.


On the contrary, I haven't made absurd claims without any links to back them up. Nowhere is there any evidence that "Duke is freaking out." Only in your silly little hive minds. Wishful thinking at its finest.


It happened on Friday, PP. The poster know college administration. What proof did you want? He/she gave us an inside perspective on what was most likely happening.

So stop with the childish name calling. Post “I don’t agree based on my experience” and move on.


An anonymous poster claims to know Duke college administration. You go right ahead and believe that fiction. Doesn't mean I have to. And btw - I don't see you calling out your fellow liberals and their "childish name calling." Typical.


Go to bed.
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Anonymous wrote:Some of us parents are not paying for college. Our kids are taking out loans and getting scholarships, working and living OOS and attending college. We realize we have zero say in where they attend college.

Such a foreign thought to so many of the posters here, but it happens every single year.


No one is doubting that.

That said, as a woman who joined the army for the college scholarship and paid for everything, 100%, I still have enormous respect and admiration for my mother and if she thought going to x state for college would endanger my health or was against her principles, I would have listened to her.

My girls are the same. They would hear out my rationale and respect my opinion.


My spouse and I cancel each other’s vote. My kids do not vote the same either one of us so, we respect each other’s decision including going to school in states that don’t support our decisions.


NP here. I couldn’t be in a marriage like that. “people are their principles”.

I know my kids and they would respect my feeling on their choice of college even if they were paying for it themselves.


You realize you can respect someone’s feelings and opinions even when you disagree with them.



Yes, of course. But if I said “no schools in Texas - please - I don’t think it’s safe for you” she would respect my feelings and go elsewhere. She’s a fiercely independent woman but respects me.


There is NOTHING unsafe about a school in Texas. Keep going with that false narrative in your head. If you are wealthy enough to send her to an OOS, you are wealthy enough to take her to a state which will permit abortions. Again, being an adult is about respecting differing opinions.

Besides these unsafe schools are not going to miss your kid anyway, they are that competitive and the slot will be filled. So you are not really threatening those schools anyway.
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Anonymous wrote:Yes, I would never ever send my daughter to one of these states for college, and that unfortunately may include Virginia soon.


Great!

Will be easier for my kid to get into UVA!!

Seriously you will skip a top college like UVA, Rice, etc in these states for the ruling of the govt in that state? It’s not the colleges’s fault and they are not going to leave the state either. Anyways , your kids are only in school for like 6 months anyways…


What they type here and what they do when their kids get rejected from the other schools because of increased competition is very different.


These Red state Universities that today denied our daughters' their civil rights will go belly Up when we pull our daughters and son's college Apps

They have literally already committed the funds from this years admission yields to formulate their staff budget,the health insurance payments for their faculty, their returee pensions and the payments on their debt

The price for treating our daughters as less than equal citizens and exposing them to a Felony record is mass default to:

Tulane, Emory, Vanderbilt, Wash- U, Furman, Texas- Austin, Ole Miss, University of Kentucky... on and on and on

Each and every family will be taking its 200,00- $ 250,000 ( 1/4 million dollars ) tuition elsewhere.....

Your states will return to being economic backwaters


Did you ever stop to think that someone else can take those seats you choose to vacate?


DP Are you familiar with the phrase "out of state tuition?" It's different than what residents pay. Universities tend to like it.


So only people from Alabama will go to colleges in Alabama?


Look, I know what Alabama is like. UAB supports an incredible medical hub and great medical education. Alabama worked really hard to build that. They were rightfully proud of it.

But ... all that now comes with even bigger asterisk. So sure, if you have kids in Mississippi whose parents can afford out of state tuition, then maybe? But it's cheaper to go to Mississippi. The real money was coming from states not in the South.

And those wealthy Southerners are not going to want their kids' degrees to come with that big asterisk. Why would they pay OOS for Alabama, when they could afford a degree not tainted with the yee-haw hillbilly work?

You all have lost the progress you were working on for decades. Decades, and generations.

I'm a Northerner with a degree from UAB, which I knew because I grew up a cardiac kid, and the father-son Kirklin team in Birmingham with the clinic designed by I.M. Pei had perfected the technique I needed.

I spent a lot of conversations trying to explain the "new Alabama" to people. It was a damn hard sell. But if that was hard, just think about trying to sell something nobody wants to buy anymore. Sorry, you guys lost the ball on this one. That's something you will have to deal with. I guess it's worth it to you. Oh, well.


“It was cool for me to go to Bama for my top-notch medical education, but post-Dobbs nobody can or should go to Bama for their top-notch education.”

Whatever.

Go look at the teeny tiny map that shows the few states who still have abortion rights. Are you really suggesting everyone limits ourselves that way?

Did you see that Wisconsin is regressing? It’s not just the south.


Ah. Do you always confuse "can or should" with "want to?"


Actually, I’m underscoring the judgmental aspect of the post. It was totes cool for them to go to Bama (precisely because of the high quality education/specialized renowned program), but now it’s a terrible choice because the world will judge them. Never mind the highly specialized program; just stick to New England lest anyone judge you…with their bias based on abortion.


No, I didn't say "it's a terrible choice."

Get this through your apparently thick skull: I said that even fewer people seem to be willing to make that choice. I'm just pointing that out.

Also, "Oh, well."


Go read the dcum college thread. Applications at Auburn were off the hook this year. Kids with 4.0s were rejected.

The uptick in applications to southern schools is real. Those schools aren’t hurting for applications. Kids from northern and coastal states are heading south in droves. Google it, or go check out the dcum college forum.


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Such wishful thinking, that somehow all these great southern schools will be lacking applicants.


They won’t be lacking applicants. They will be lacking blue state and liberal applicants. This will most definitely lower their ranking for years. As a Duke graduate, I can promise you that the brilliant kids who go on to graduate programs were all generally from the north.


And those brilliant kids from the north will continue to go to Duke. Go read the dcum college thread.


I don’t think so, PP. And as a retired college administrator I can guarantee you that there were emergency meetings at all the schools in the country - those fearing a loss of out of state students and those anticipating an influx of out of state students.

Duke is freaking out.


So, links to these claims? None? Didn't think so.
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Duke is freaking out. NP here.


And so I'm sure you have links to support that claim. Still waiting.


Why do you need a link to prove something is true? And why do you care if duke loses applicants? These southern schools had a nice run, but now it’s over.


Thank you for admitting you're simply stating your opinion and that opinion has no basis in reality or truth. Moving on...


Stop embarrassing yourself, PP. Your diversion tactics don’t work. NP here and I understand that you’re embarrassed to be wrong but you are the one who needs to move on.


On the contrary, I haven't made absurd claims without any links to back them up. Nowhere is there any evidence that "Duke is freaking out." Only in your silly little hive minds. Wishful thinking at its finest.


It happened on Friday, PP. The poster know college administration. What proof did you want? He/she gave us an inside perspective on what was most likely happening.

So stop with the childish name calling. Post “I don’t agree based on my experience” and move on.


An anonymous poster claims to know Duke college administration. You go right ahead and believe that fiction. Doesn't mean I have to. And btw - I don't see you calling out your fellow liberals and their "childish name calling." Typical.


Go to bed.


Get a life.
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Anonymous wrote:Some of us parents are not paying for college. Our kids are taking out loans and getting scholarships, working and living OOS and attending college. We realize we have zero say in where they attend college.

Such a foreign thought to so many of the posters here, but it happens every single year.


No one is doubting that.

That said, as a woman who joined the army for the college scholarship and paid for everything, 100%, I still have enormous respect and admiration for my mother and if she thought going to x state for college would endanger my health or was against her principles, I would have listened to her.

My girls are the same. They would hear out my rationale and respect my opinion.


My spouse and I cancel each other’s vote. My kids do not vote the same either one of us so, we respect each other’s decision including going to school in states that don’t support our decisions.


NP here. I couldn’t be in a marriage like that. “people are their principles”.

I know my kids and they would respect my feeling on their choice of college even if they were paying for it themselves.


You realize you can respect someone’s feelings and opinions even when you disagree with them.



Yes, of course. But if I said “no schools in Texas - please - I don’t think it’s safe for you” she would respect my feelings and go elsewhere. She’s a fiercely independent woman but respects me.


There is NOTHING unsafe about a school in Texas. Keep going with that false narrative in your head. If you are wealthy enough to send her to an OOS, you are wealthy enough to take her to a state which will permit abortions. Again, being an adult is about respecting differing opinions.

Besides these unsafe schools are not going to miss your kid anyway, they are that competitive and the slot will be filled. So you are not really threatening those schools anyway.


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These dolts actually think the schools in question are going to be harmed by their snowflakes not applying. Such an odd sense of self-importance.
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Enough oos students refuse to consider these schools, and it affects their bottom line

It will make an impact if enough people do it
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Some of us parents are not paying for college. Our kids are taking out loans and getting scholarships, working and living OOS and attending college. We realize we have zero say in where they attend college.

Such a foreign thought to so many of the posters here, but it happens every single year.


No one is doubting that.

That said, as a woman who joined the army for the college scholarship and paid for everything, 100%, I still have enormous respect and admiration for my mother and if she thought going to x state for college would endanger my health or was against her principles, I would have listened to her.

My girls are the same. They would hear out my rationale and respect my opinion.


My spouse and I cancel each other’s vote. My kids do not vote the same either one of us so, we respect each other’s decision including going to school in states that don’t support our decisions.


NP here. I couldn’t be in a marriage like that. “people are their principles”.

I know my kids and they would respect my feeling on their choice of college even if they were paying for it themselves.


You realize you can respect someone’s feelings and opinions even when you disagree with them.



Yes, of course. But if I said “no schools in Texas - please - I don’t think it’s safe for you” she would respect my feelings and go elsewhere. She’s a fiercely independent woman but respects me.


There is NOTHING unsafe about a school in Texas. Keep going with that false narrative in your head. If you are wealthy enough to send her to an OOS, you are wealthy enough to take her to a state which will permit abortions. Again, being an adult is about respecting differing opinions.

Besides these unsafe schools are not going to miss your kid anyway, they are that competitive and the slot will be filled. So you are not really threatening those schools anyway.


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These dolts actually think the schools in question are going to be harmed by their snowflakes not applying. Such an odd sense of self-importance.


Then why do you care so much? If you really thought there was no danger of declining applications, you wouldn’t be so concerned. I suspect you’re worried it’s likely.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Some of us parents are not paying for college. Our kids are taking out loans and getting scholarships, working and living OOS and attending college. We realize we have zero say in where they attend college.

Such a foreign thought to so many of the posters here, but it happens every single year.


No one is doubting that.

That said, as a woman who joined the army for the college scholarship and paid for everything, 100%, I still have enormous respect and admiration for my mother and if she thought going to x state for college would endanger my health or was against her principles, I would have listened to her.

My girls are the same. They would hear out my rationale and respect my opinion.


My spouse and I cancel each other’s vote. My kids do not vote the same either one of us so, we respect each other’s decision including going to school in states that don’t support our decisions.


NP here. I couldn’t be in a marriage like that. “people are their principles”.

I know my kids and they would respect my feeling on their choice of college even if they were paying for it themselves.


You realize you can respect someone’s feelings and opinions even when you disagree with them.



Yes, of course. But if I said “no schools in Texas - please - I don’t think it’s safe for you” she would respect my feelings and go elsewhere. She’s a fiercely independent woman but respects me.


There is NOTHING unsafe about a school in Texas. Keep going with that false narrative in your head. If you are wealthy enough to send her to an OOS, you are wealthy enough to take her to a state which will permit abortions. Again, being an adult is about respecting differing opinions.

Besides these unsafe schools are not going to miss your kid anyway, they are that competitive and the slot will be filled. So you are not really threatening those schools anyway.


+1
These dolts actually think the schools in question are going to be harmed by their snowflakes not applying. Such an odd sense of self-importance.


Okay, Cotton. Let's see how it plays out.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Some of us parents are not paying for college. Our kids are taking out loans and getting scholarships, working and living OOS and attending college. We realize we have zero say in where they attend college.

Such a foreign thought to so many of the posters here, but it happens every single year.


No one is doubting that.

That said, as a woman who joined the army for the college scholarship and paid for everything, 100%, I still have enormous respect and admiration for my mother and if she thought going to x state for college would endanger my health or was against her principles, I would have listened to her.

My girls are the same. They would hear out my rationale and respect my opinion.


My spouse and I cancel each other’s vote. My kids do not vote the same either one of us so, we respect each other’s decision including going to school in states that don’t support our decisions.


NP here. I couldn’t be in a marriage like that. “people are their principles”.

I know my kids and they would respect my feeling on their choice of college even if they were paying for it themselves.


You realize you can respect someone’s feelings and opinions even when you disagree with them.



Yes, of course. But if I said “no schools in Texas - please - I don’t think it’s safe for you” she would respect my feelings and go elsewhere. She’s a fiercely independent woman but respects me.


There is NOTHING unsafe about a school in Texas. Keep going with that false narrative in your head. If you are wealthy enough to send her to an OOS, you are wealthy enough to take her to a state which will permit abortions. Again, being an adult is about respecting differing opinions.

Besides these unsafe schools are not going to miss your kid anyway, they are that competitive and the slot will be filled. So you are not really threatening those schools anyway.


+1
These dolts actually think the schools in question are going to be harmed by their snowflakes not applying. Such an odd sense of self-importance.


Then why do you care so much? If you really thought there was no danger of declining applications, you wouldn’t be so concerned. I suspect you’re worried it’s likely.


I don't care at all. But it is certainly entertaining seeing how desperately YOU care about this non-issue.
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Some of us parents are not paying for college. Our kids are taking out loans and getting scholarships, working and living OOS and attending college. We realize we have zero say in where they attend college.

Such a foreign thought to so many of the posters here, but it happens every single year.


No one is doubting that.

That said, as a woman who joined the army for the college scholarship and paid for everything, 100%, I still have enormous respect and admiration for my mother and if she thought going to x state for college would endanger my health or was against her principles, I would have listened to her.

My girls are the same. They would hear out my rationale and respect my opinion.


My spouse and I cancel each other’s vote. My kids do not vote the same either one of us so, we respect each other’s decision including going to school in states that don’t support our decisions.


NP here. I couldn’t be in a marriage like that. “people are their principles”.

I know my kids and they would respect my feeling on their choice of college even if they were paying for it themselves.


You realize you can respect someone’s feelings and opinions even when you disagree with them.



Yes, of course. But if I said “no schools in Texas - please - I don’t think it’s safe for you” she would respect my feelings and go elsewhere. She’s a fiercely independent woman but respects me.


There is NOTHING unsafe about a school in Texas. Keep going with that false narrative in your head. If you are wealthy enough to send her to an OOS, you are wealthy enough to take her to a state which will permit abortions. Again, being an adult is about respecting differing opinions.

Besides these unsafe schools are not going to miss your kid anyway, they are that competitive and the slot will be filled. So you are not really threatening those schools anyway.


+1
These dolts actually think the schools in question are going to be harmed by their snowflakes not applying. Such an odd sense of self-importance.


Okay, Cotton. Let's see how it plays out.


Cotton?
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