Boycott/ Divest and Pull your College App from All States which violate Our Daughters' Civil Rights

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Anonymous wrote:I will boycott anything at all to do with states going with abortion bans. Scorched earth.

Fly SW? They are headquarter in Texas.

Use a coupon? Those are processed in Texas.

I could go on and on, but you keep on with your boycott.

Better not use the net, I bet it is routed through one of those “boycotted” states.

Not the same thing, dear, but keep trying.

Here’s a clearer example: taking the kids to a beach in California or South Carolina? Answer: California because of SCs abortion ban. Vacation in Florida? No. Hawaii - yes. Send my kid to school in Texas - no! Washington State - yes.

See? It’s quite simple.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I will boycott anything at all to do with states going with abortion bans. Scorched earth.

Fly SW? They are headquarter in Texas.

Use a coupon? Those are processed in Texas.

I could go on and on, but you keep on with your boycott.

Better not use the net, I bet it is routed through one of those “boycotted” states.

DP. Let's not let perfect be the enemy of the good. Do the best you can, and additively, it can have impact.

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Anonymous wrote:I will boycott anything at all to do with states going with abortion bans. Scorched earth.

Do you actually do things in/with those states now?

NP here and yes. We went to Texas frequently to see family and friends. I grew up outside Houston. We’ve decided to boycott Texas now in every way.

+1 was planning a birthday bash and looking at blackberry farm in Tennessee or Miraval in Arizona. I will never give my tourist dollars to regressive states again. If enough people think like me it’s a small gesture but it adds up.

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Anonymous wrote:I will boycott anything at all to do with states going with abortion bans. Scorched earth.

Fly SW? They are headquarter in Texas.

Use a coupon? Those are processed in Texas.

I could go on and on, but you keep on with your boycott.

Better not use the net, I bet it is routed through one of those “boycotted” states.

DP. Let's not let perfect be the enemy of the good. Do the best you can, and additively, it can have impact.

Absolutely. Some people seem to be freaked out that there will be economic consequences for this travesty.

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Anonymous wrote:I will boycott anything at all to do with states going with abortion bans. Scorched earth.

Fly SW? They are headquarter in Texas.

Use a coupon? Those are processed in Texas.

I could go on and on, but you keep on with your boycott.

Better not use the net, I bet it is routed through one of those “boycotted” states.

I don't fly SW, I don't use paper coupons. I refuse to knowingly do business with any entity having anything to do with those states.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, I would never ever send my daughter to one of these states for college, and that unfortunately may include Virginia soon.

Great!

Will be easier for my kid to get into UVA!!

Seriously you will skip a top college like UVA, Rice, etc in these states for the ruling of the govt in that state? It’s not the colleges’s fault and they are not going to leave the state either. Anyways , your kids are only in school for like 6 months anyways…

What they type here and what they do when their kids get rejected from the other schools because of increased competition is very different.

These Red state Universities that today denied our daughters' their civil rights will go belly Up when we pull our daughters and son's college Apps

They have literally already committed the funds from this years admission yields to formulate their staff budget,the health insurance payments for their faculty, their returee pensions and the payments on their debt

The price for treating our daughters as less than equal citizens and exposing them to a Felony record is mass default to:

Tulane, Emory, Vanderbilt, Wash- U, Furman, Texas- Austin, Ole Miss, University of Kentucky... on and on and on

Each and every family will be taking its 200,00- $ 250,000 ( 1/4 million dollars ) tuition elsewhere.....

Your states will return to being economic backwaters

Did you ever stop to think that someone else can take those seats you choose to vacate?

DP Are you familiar with the phrase "out of state tuition?" It's different than what residents pay. Universities tend to like it.

So only people from Alabama will go to colleges in Alabama?

Look, I know what Alabama is like. UAB supports an incredible medical hub and great medical education. Alabama worked really hard to build that. They were rightfully proud of it.

But ... all that now comes with even bigger asterisk. So sure, if you have kids in Mississippi whose parents can afford out of state tuition, then maybe? But it's cheaper to go to Mississippi. The real money was coming from states not in the South.

And those wealthy Southerners are not going to want their kids' degrees to come with that big asterisk. Why would they pay OOS for Alabama, when they could afford a degree not tainted with the yee-haw hillbilly work?

You all have lost the progress you were working on for decades. Decades, and generations.

I'm a Northerner with a degree from UAB, which I knew because I grew up a cardiac kid, and the father-son Kirklin team in Birmingham with the clinic designed by I.M. Pei had perfected the technique I needed.

I spent a lot of conversations trying to explain the "new Alabama" to people. It was a damn hard sell. But if that was hard, just think about trying to sell something nobody wants to buy anymore. Sorry, you guys lost the ball on this one. That's something you will have to deal with. I guess it's worth it to you. Oh, well.

“It was cool for me to go to Bama for my top-notch medical education, but post-Dobbs nobody can or should go to Bama for their top-notch education.”

Whatever.

Go look at the teeny tiny map that shows the few states who still have abortion rights. Are you really suggesting everyone limits ourselves that way?

Did you see that Wisconsin is regressing? It’s not just the south.

Ah. Do you always confuse "can or should" with "want to?"

Actually, I’m underscoring the judgmental aspect of the post. It was totes cool for them to go to Bama (precisely because of the high quality education/specialized renowned program), but now it’s a terrible choice because the world will judge them. Never mind the highly specialized program; just stick to New England lest anyone judge you…with their bias based on abortion.

No, I didn't say "it's a terrible choice."

Get this through your apparently thick skull: I said that even fewer people seem to be willing to make that choice. I'm just pointing that out.

Also, "Oh, well."

Go read the dcum college thread. Applications at Auburn were off the hook this year. Kids with 4.0s were rejected.

The uptick in applications to southern schools is real. Those schools aren’t hurting for applications. Kids from northern and coastal states are heading south in droves. Google it, or go check out the dcum college forum.

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Such wishful thinking, that somehow all these great southern schools will be lacking applicants.

They won’t be lacking applicants. They will be lacking blue state and liberal applicants. This will most definitely lower their ranking for years. As a Duke graduate, I can promise you that the brilliant kids who go on to graduate programs were all generally from the north.

And those brilliant kids from the north will continue to go to Duke. Go read the dcum college thread.

I don’t think so, PP. And as a retired college administrator I can guarantee you that there were emergency meetings at all the schools in the country - those fearing a loss of out of state students and those anticipating an influx of out of state students.

Duke is freaking out.

So, links to these claims? None? Didn't think so.
DP

Duke is freaking out. NP here.

And so I'm sure you have links to support that claim. Still waiting.

Why do you need a link to prove something is true? And why do you care if duke loses applicants? These southern schools had a nice run, but now it’s over.

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Why would I do that when I support the Supreme Court’s decision?

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Anonymous wrote:Some of us parents are not paying for college. Our kids are taking out loans and getting scholarships, working and living OOS and attending college. We realize we have zero say in where they attend college.

Such a foreign thought to so many of the posters here, but it happens every single year.

No one is doubting that.

That said, as a woman who joined the army for the college scholarship and paid for everything, 100%, I still have enormous respect and admiration for my mother and if she thought going to x state for college would endanger my health or was against her principles, I would have listened to her.

My girls are the same. They would hear out my rationale and respect my opinion.

My spouse and I cancel each other’s vote. My kids do not vote the same either one of us so, we respect each other’s decision including going to school in states that don’t support our decisions.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I will boycott anything at all to do with states going with abortion bans. Scorched earth.

Fly SW? They are headquarter in Texas.

Use a coupon? Those are processed in Texas.

I could go on and on, but you keep on with your boycott.

Better not use the net, I bet it is routed through one of those “boycotted” states.

Who uses printed coupons any more?

What kinds of people are flying during a pandemic?

Not only will I stop vacationing in all red states, I also plan to stop using any conservative Catholic or Evangelical christian providers of any service locally. Let them only serve other Evangelicals and Catholics if they don't think I'm enough of a person to make my own decisions.

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Anonymous wrote:Most of the posters in this thread have shown the hypocrisy of the Left Wing Nut Jobs on this issue. You pro abortion lot say you are “pro choice”, yet should your son or daughter make a choice what to do with their body i.e. their mind and attend ANY university in the nation, you won’t support their choice in all cases. You will withhold funds or what ever other CONTROL you can hold over their body if their CHOICE goes against yours.

Oh the irony!

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And I'm pro-choice!

Sure you are. I don't know any girl who would want to attend a university in a state that denies them the freedom to have control of their life just as a man does. My 9th grader and all her friends have already said that. And the hypocrisy of it all is what kills me. This isn't about babies that the Republicans want to protect. It's not really about that because if it were, they would be fighting for stricter gun laws. This is primarily about controlling women and judging them based on their "sinful" actions. I grew up with super religious Christian parents and their biggest fear has always been one of us having sex before marriage. They call themselves"pro- life" but what they really want is to deter unmarried women from having sex. Nothing to do with saving life.

Not really interested in your life story. I stated I was pro-choice, and I am. However, this issue has *correctly* been handed back to the states so that all voters can make their positions known. It should have been done long ago.

Again your response is not consistent with someone who is pro choice. Your anger should be towards the people who are removing a woman's right to make the choice for her body and her life; not at random women on DCUM who want to boycott some colleges.

I'm not the one who is angry. I haven't been posting incoherent rants on the topic. I simply stated that the issue has been handed back to the states to decide, as it should have been long ago. Feel free to boycott whatever you like.

Again stop pretending like you're pro-choice. We all know you're not especially when you're more focused on arguing with pro-choice people on here and calling them incoherent. Also interesting that you think a woman's right to make decisions about her body and her ability to access legal and safe abortion is up for debate and dependent on the ruling party of each state.

And you're calling other people "angry"? Wow. Check yourself. I'm pro-choice and will vote accordingly in my own state. The SC should not be in the business of making laws. Sorry that I agree with the decision. It must be hard for you to get through life when people don't agree with you.

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Anonymous wrote:Why would I do that when I support the Supreme Court’s decision?

You wouldn’t, dear. God help you, sweetheart, this doesn’t apply to you.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, I would never ever send my daughter to one of these states for college, and that unfortunately may include Virginia soon.

Great!

Will be easier for my kid to get into UVA!!

Seriously you will skip a top college like UVA, Rice, etc in these states for the ruling of the govt in that state? It’s not the colleges’s fault and they are not going to leave the state either. Anyways , your kids are only in school for like 6 months anyways…

What they type here and what they do when their kids get rejected from the other schools because of increased competition is very different.

These Red state Universities that today denied our daughters' their civil rights will go belly Up when we pull our daughters and son's college Apps

They have literally already committed the funds from this years admission yields to formulate their staff budget,the health insurance payments for their faculty, their returee pensions and the payments on their debt

The price for treating our daughters as less than equal citizens and exposing them to a Felony record is mass default to:

Tulane, Emory, Vanderbilt, Wash- U, Furman, Texas- Austin, Ole Miss, University of Kentucky... on and on and on

Each and every family will be taking its 200,00- $ 250,000 ( 1/4 million dollars ) tuition elsewhere.....

Your states will return to being economic backwaters

Did you ever stop to think that someone else can take those seats you choose to vacate?

DP Are you familiar with the phrase "out of state tuition?" It's different than what residents pay. Universities tend to like it.

So only people from Alabama will go to colleges in Alabama?

Look, I know what Alabama is like. UAB supports an incredible medical hub and great medical education. Alabama worked really hard to build that. They were rightfully proud of it.

But ... all that now comes with even bigger asterisk. So sure, if you have kids in Mississippi whose parents can afford out of state tuition, then maybe? But it's cheaper to go to Mississippi. The real money was coming from states not in the South.

And those wealthy Southerners are not going to want their kids' degrees to come with that big asterisk. Why would they pay OOS for Alabama, when they could afford a degree not tainted with the yee-haw hillbilly work?

You all have lost the progress you were working on for decades. Decades, and generations.

I'm a Northerner with a degree from UAB, which I knew because I grew up a cardiac kid, and the father-son Kirklin team in Birmingham with the clinic designed by I.M. Pei had perfected the technique I needed.

I spent a lot of conversations trying to explain the "new Alabama" to people. It was a damn hard sell. But if that was hard, just think about trying to sell something nobody wants to buy anymore. Sorry, you guys lost the ball on this one. That's something you will have to deal with. I guess it's worth it to you. Oh, well.

“It was cool for me to go to Bama for my top-notch medical education, but post-Dobbs nobody can or should go to Bama for their top-notch education.”

Whatever.

Go look at the teeny tiny map that shows the few states who still have abortion rights. Are you really suggesting everyone limits ourselves that way?

Did you see that Wisconsin is regressing? It’s not just the south.

Ah. Do you always confuse "can or should" with "want to?"

Actually, I’m underscoring the judgmental aspect of the post. It was totes cool for them to go to Bama (precisely because of the high quality education/specialized renowned program), but now it’s a terrible choice because the world will judge them. Never mind the highly specialized program; just stick to New England lest anyone judge you…with their bias based on abortion.

No, I didn't say "it's a terrible choice."

Get this through your apparently thick skull: I said that even fewer people seem to be willing to make that choice. I'm just pointing that out.

Also, "Oh, well."

Go read the dcum college thread. Applications at Auburn were off the hook this year. Kids with 4.0s were rejected.

The uptick in applications to southern schools is real. Those schools aren’t hurting for applications. Kids from northern and coastal states are heading south in droves. Google it, or go check out the dcum college forum.

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Such wishful thinking, that somehow all these great southern schools will be lacking applicants.

They won’t be lacking applicants. They will be lacking blue state and liberal applicants. This will most definitely lower their ranking for years. As a Duke graduate, I can promise you that the brilliant kids who go on to graduate programs were all generally from the north.

And those brilliant kids from the north will continue to go to Duke. Go read the dcum college thread.

I don’t think so, PP. And as a retired college administrator I can guarantee you that there were emergency meetings at all the schools in the country - those fearing a loss of out of state students and those anticipating an influx of out of state students.

Duke is freaking out.

So, links to these claims? None? Didn't think so.
DP

Duke is freaking out. NP here.

And so I'm sure you have links to support that claim. Still waiting.

Why do you need a link to prove something is true? And why do you care if duke loses applicants? These southern schools had a nice run, but now it’s over.

Thank you for admitting you're simply stating your opinion and that opinion has no basis in reality or truth. Moving on...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I will boycott anything at all to do with states going with abortion bans. Scorched earth.

Fly SW? They are headquarter in Texas.

Use a coupon? Those are processed in Texas.

I could go on and on, but you keep on with your boycott.

Better not use the net, I bet it is routed through one of those “boycotted” states.

Who uses printed coupons any more?

What kinds of people are flying during a pandemic?

Not only will I stop vacationing in all red states, I also plan to stop using any conservative Catholic or Evangelical christian providers of any service locally. Let them only serve other Evangelicals and Catholics if they don't think I'm enough of a person to make my own decisions.

So much to unpack, but let's just discuss the bolded - are you serious? You do realize ALL kinds of people are flying now, right?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Some of us parents are not paying for college. Our kids are taking out loans and getting scholarships, working and living OOS and attending college. We realize we have zero say in where they attend college.

Such a foreign thought to so many of the posters here, but it happens every single year.

No one is doubting that.

That said, as a woman who joined the army for the college scholarship and paid for everything, 100%, I still have enormous respect and admiration for my mother and if she thought going to x state for college would endanger my health or was against her principles, I would have listened to her.

My girls are the same. They would hear out my rationale and respect my opinion.

My spouse and I cancel each other’s vote. My kids do not vote the same either one of us so, we respect each other’s decision including going to school in states that don’t support our decisions.

NP here. I couldn’t be in a marriage like that. “people are their principles”.

I know my kids and they would respect my feeling on their choice of college even if they were paying for it themselves.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, I would never ever send my daughter to one of these states for college, and that unfortunately may include Virginia soon.

Great!

Will be easier for my kid to get into UVA!!

Seriously you will skip a top college like UVA, Rice, etc in these states for the ruling of the govt in that state? It’s not the colleges’s fault and they are not going to leave the state either. Anyways , your kids are only in school for like 6 months anyways…

What they type here and what they do when their kids get rejected from the other schools because of increased competition is very different.

These Red state Universities that today denied our daughters' their civil rights will go belly Up when we pull our daughters and son's college Apps

They have literally already committed the funds from this years admission yields to formulate their staff budget,the health insurance payments for their faculty, their returee pensions and the payments on their debt

The price for treating our daughters as less than equal citizens and exposing them to a Felony record is mass default to:

Tulane, Emory, Vanderbilt, Wash- U, Furman, Texas- Austin, Ole Miss, University of Kentucky... on and on and on

Each and every family will be taking its 200,00- $ 250,000 ( 1/4 million dollars ) tuition elsewhere.....

Your states will return to being economic backwaters

Did you ever stop to think that someone else can take those seats you choose to vacate?

DP Are you familiar with the phrase "out of state tuition?" It's different than what residents pay. Universities tend to like it.

So only people from Alabama will go to colleges in Alabama?

Look, I know what Alabama is like. UAB supports an incredible medical hub and great medical education. Alabama worked really hard to build that. They were rightfully proud of it.

But ... all that now comes with even bigger asterisk. So sure, if you have kids in Mississippi whose parents can afford out of state tuition, then maybe? But it's cheaper to go to Mississippi. The real money was coming from states not in the South.

And those wealthy Southerners are not going to want their kids' degrees to come with that big asterisk. Why would they pay OOS for Alabama, when they could afford a degree not tainted with the yee-haw hillbilly work?

You all have lost the progress you were working on for decades. Decades, and generations.

I'm a Northerner with a degree from UAB, which I knew because I grew up a cardiac kid, and the father-son Kirklin team in Birmingham with the clinic designed by I.M. Pei had perfected the technique I needed.

I spent a lot of conversations trying to explain the "new Alabama" to people. It was a damn hard sell. But if that was hard, just think about trying to sell something nobody wants to buy anymore. Sorry, you guys lost the ball on this one. That's something you will have to deal with. I guess it's worth it to you. Oh, well.

“It was cool for me to go to Bama for my top-notch medical education, but post-Dobbs nobody can or should go to Bama for their top-notch education.”

Whatever.

Go look at the teeny tiny map that shows the few states who still have abortion rights. Are you really suggesting everyone limits ourselves that way?

Did you see that Wisconsin is regressing? It’s not just the south.

Ah. Do you always confuse "can or should" with "want to?"

Actually, I’m underscoring the judgmental aspect of the post. It was totes cool for them to go to Bama (precisely because of the high quality education/specialized renowned program), but now it’s a terrible choice because the world will judge them. Never mind the highly specialized program; just stick to New England lest anyone judge you…with their bias based on abortion.

No, I didn't say "it's a terrible choice."

Get this through your apparently thick skull: I said that even fewer people seem to be willing to make that choice. I'm just pointing that out.

Also, "Oh, well."

Go read the dcum college thread. Applications at Auburn were off the hook this year. Kids with 4.0s were rejected.

The uptick in applications to southern schools is real. Those schools aren’t hurting for applications. Kids from northern and coastal states are heading south in droves. Google it, or go check out the dcum college forum.

+1
Such wishful thinking, that somehow all these great southern schools will be lacking applicants.

They won’t be lacking applicants. They will be lacking blue state and liberal applicants. This will most definitely lower their ranking for years. As a Duke graduate, I can promise you that the brilliant kids who go on to graduate programs were all generally from the north.

And those brilliant kids from the north will continue to go to Duke. Go read the dcum college thread.

I don’t think so, PP. And as a retired college administrator I can guarantee you that there were emergency meetings at all the schools in the country - those fearing a loss of out of state students and those anticipating an influx of out of state students.

Duke is freaking out.

So, links to these claims? None? Didn't think so.
DP

Duke is freaking out. NP here.

And so I'm sure you have links to support that claim. Still waiting.

Why do you need a link to prove something is true? And why do you care if duke loses applicants? These southern schools had a nice run, but now it’s over.

Thank you for admitting you're simply stating your opinion and that opinion has no basis in reality or truth. Moving on...

Stop embarrassing yourself, PP. Your diversion tactics don’t work. NP here and I understand that you’re embarrassed to be wrong but you are the one who needs to move on.