Cops in TX tackle & block desperate parents, while they let shooter rampage thru the school

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Anonymous wrote:I never thought I'd be thankful that the CBP are crazy and trigger-happy. Thank you CBP officer.

He wasn't trigger happy. He was well-trained and had the equipment to handle the situation. Pathetically, the police already on the scene should've handled it. Instead, they waited for this guy to drive 40 minutes to end the siege.

But they could’ve been shot.

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Wow, this article is stomach churning: https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/27/us/robb-shooting-survivor-miah-cerrillo/index.html

For those who ask why the door wasn't locked - he shot through the window of the door:

One teacher went to lock the door, but Miah says the shooter was right there — and shot out the window in the door.

She described it all happening so fast — her teacher backed into the classroom and the gunman followed. She told CNN the shooter looked at one of her teachers in the eye, said, "Goodnight," and then shot her.

Then the cops hung around outside while the shooter was listening to music and the kids were bleeding out:

Miah said she was scared the gunman would return to her classroom to kill her and a few other surviving friends. So, she dipped her hands in the blood of a classmate -- who lay next to her, already dead — and then smeared the blood all over herself to play dead.

Miah said it felt like three hours that she lay there, covered in her classmate's blood, with her friends.

She told CNN she assumed at that point the police hadn't arrived on the scene yet.

She said afterwards, she overheard talk of police waiting outside the school. As she recounted this part of the story during the interview, she started crying, saying she just didn't understand why they didn't come inside and rescue them.

Like I said when I started this thread: a profile in cowardice.

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Those 4 th graders showed more courage. What a failure those cops were and l love our civil servants and want to fund and protect them, but if they won't do their jobs and vote to keep these weapons of mass destruction in the hands of civilians I just have no words.

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Law enforcement was too scared and too self-centered to do anything other than threaten parents. If it wasnt for a border patrol officer eating lunch 40 miles away nobody would have ever gone in. We have found the weakest link. It wasn't a fence. It wasn't a door. It wasn't a sign. It was the local cops. Local cops that are fully kitted out as if they were SF. Local cops that have a SWAT team in a 16,000 person town. Local cops that get 40% of the town's budget. Local cops that got hazard pay for standing around a perimeter. Local cops that stood around and watched as a classroom of kids got slaughtered.


Sing it, my friend. Not a single refutable point in your post.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m hoping this horrific incident helps people understand what the police are. They have no duty to save you or a classroom full of children from danger. None at all. This has been litigated in different contexts around the country.

You can ask yourself why we pour so much money into policing, as well as outfit them like they’re going to war, if they have no duty of safety to the general public.

Honestly, its an expensive jobs program to keep 90% of those idle hands out of something more dangerous for the rest of us.

10% are passionately doing the Lord's work and 90% are just kept busy maintaining a perimeter. Those 90% are 20-and-done, while the effective 10% actually make a long career out of it.

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We can't have socialized medicine though.

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Mr Rogers always said to look for the helpers. Well, I only saw parents.....

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Anonymous wrote:Law enforcement was too scared and too self-centered to do anything other than threaten parents. If it wasnt for a border patrol officer eating lunch 40 miles away nobody would have ever gone in. We have found the weakest link. It wasn't a fence. It wasn't a door. It wasn't a sign. It was the local cops. Local cops that are fully kitted out as if they were SF. Local cops that have a SWAT team in a 16,000 person town. Local cops that get 40% of the town's budget. Local cops that got hazard pay for standing around a perimeter. Local cops that stood around and watched as a classroom of kids got slaughtered.


Sing it, my friend. Not a single refutable point in your post.

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Where is the Hazzard pay for teachers and parents

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Anonymous wrote:How, if in Texas everyone is ok with just buying an assault rifle at a local sporting goods store, do police not have a supply of them to bring to such a situation? Don’t they have those armored vehicles we bought them?
And couldn’t they have just gone to the same sporting goods store and picked up the same gun and rounds of ammunition as they leisurely drove to the school?

I am sure the truth of what happened is even worse than what the police are sharing, though it strains me to imagine how that could be at this point.

They had the weaponry. The did not have the tactical equipment to protect themselves. They still should have gone in

Why do we have a militarized police force that is too scared or unprepared to actually protect people when they need it.

Between these gutsy bad-ass heroes (pictured above) and, get this, "a proper perimeter fence" locked doors and "signs posted saying that adults on premise were armed and ready to engage" and we're all set!

Oh, wait...

There were no locked doors, nor a proper perimeter fence aimed at deterrence. Nor signs. There was no equipment at the scene. And yes, their actions were a problem. I’m more concerned that the gunman had such easy access in this day and age. Was he known to law enforcement. He did pass a background check so that didn’t work.

Schools aren't built like prisons. In general, they don't have proper perimeter fences, since students walk in from the neighborhood. Some schools lock doors but not all - upper schools with open campuses cannot lock doors. Locally, in the DMV, nearly all elementary schools lock doors but nearly all also have trailers that are unsecured.

The solution is not to put up higher fences. Think outside of your box.

And armed shooters aren’t the only thing we need to protect against. Locked doors and a single entrance are not so great if there’s a fire.

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Anonymous wrote:Those 4 th graders showed more courage. What a failure those cops were and l love our civil servants and want to fund and protect them, but if they won't do their jobs and vote to keep these weapons of mass destruction in the hands of civilians I just have no words.

Another part of the problem is that the police unions *always* support the Republicans. They lend their prestige to Republican politicians who promise to make weapons of war readily available to bad guys. And children get slaughtered as a result. It’s truly sickening.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Those 4 th graders showed more courage. What a failure those cops were and l love our civil servants and want to fund and protect them, but if they won't do their jobs and vote to keep these weapons of mass destruction in the hands of civilians I just have no words.

Another part of the problem is that the police unions *always* support the Republicans. They lend their prestige to Republican politicians who promise to make weapons of war readily available to bad guys. And children get slaughtered as a result. It’s truly sickening.

Yes the republicans who support “we need guns to stop the government from controlling us”- read that we need to kill cops.

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Anonymous wrote:How, if in Texas everyone is ok with just buying an assault rifle at a local sporting goods store, do police not have a supply of them to bring to such a situation? Don’t they have those armored vehicles we bought them?
And couldn’t they have just gone to the same sporting goods store and picked up the same gun and rounds of ammunition as they leisurely drove to the school?

I am sure the truth of what happened is even worse than what the police are sharing, though it strains me to imagine how that could be at this point.

They had the weaponry. The did not have the tactical equipment to protect themselves. They still should have gone in

Why do we have a militarized police force that is too scared or unprepared to actually protect people when they need it.

Between these gutsy bad-ass heroes (pictured above) and, get this, "a proper perimeter fence" locked doors and "signs posted saying that adults on premise were armed and ready to engage" and we're all set!

Oh, wait...

There were no locked doors, nor a proper perimeter fence aimed at deterrence. Nor signs. There was no equipment at the scene. And yes, their actions were a problem. I’m more concerned that the gunman had such easy access in this day and age. Was he known to law enforcement. He did pass a background check so that didn’t work.

Schools aren't built like prisons. In general, they don't have proper perimeter fences, since students walk in from the neighborhood. Some schools lock doors but not all - upper schools with open campuses cannot lock doors. Locally, in the DMV, nearly all elementary schools lock doors but nearly all also have trailers that are unsecured.

The solution is not to put up higher fences. Think outside of your box.

And armed shooters aren’t the only thing we need to protect against. Locked doors and a single entrance are not so great if there’s a fire.

Don't forget parents of victims. They're super dangerous.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, this article is stomach churning: https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/27/us/robb-shooting-survivor-miah-cerrillo/index.html

For those who ask why the door wasn't locked - he shot through the window of the door:

One teacher went to lock the door, but Miah says the shooter was right there — and shot out the window in the door.

She described it all happening so fast — her teacher backed into the classroom and the gunman followed. She told CNN the shooter looked at one of her teachers in the eye, said, "Goodnight," and then shot her.

Then the cops hung around outside while the shooter was listening to music and the kids were bleeding out:

Miah said she was scared the gunman would return to her classroom to kill her and a few other surviving friends. So, she dipped her hands in the blood of a classmate -- who lay next to her, already dead — and then smeared the blood all over herself to play dead.

Miah said it felt like three hours that she lay there, covered in her classmate's blood, with her friends.

She told CNN she assumed at that point the police hadn't arrived on the scene yet.

She said afterwards, she overheard talk of police waiting outside the school. As she recounted this part of the story during the interview, she started crying, saying she just didn't understand why they didn't come inside and rescue them.

Like I said when I started this thread: a profile in cowardice.

So if the police are afraid, what do you think will happen if you arm a teacher who would be terrified in that moment?

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How dare CNN interview a 10 year old shooting victim. Talk about a lack of decency!

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