Western High School Boundary Map options (A/B/C/D)

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Anonymous wrote:They are setting boundaries after opt-in is done probably to find an option with least resistance. After setting boundaries, if some people question the decision, they can say that: it's that way because your area has a high number of opt-in students which indicates that majority of students in the area wants to go to the new high school. Setting boundaries this way creates problems for the following years, although it's a politically "smart" approach.

Anonymous wrote:If I had a say, the boundaries would have been set in January and the only option would have been to opt out, but I am not. I can only speculate based on what the info that has been put out.

My only point in the opting in was that it is only meant to be this year because of how they screwed up the process. People ar eposting as if the opt in option from this year means the school will be a magnate (sp) school. It doesn’t. It is a unique option for this year.

Families at Chantilly that are not happy with the size of the school had the choice to opt in. We don’t know if they did or they did not. The SLHS PTA was told that 40-45 9th graders from SLHS opted in to Western. Those are the only numbers we have heard.

Chantilly will see kids move in 2 years when the boundaries are set.

Do I think things can shift? Yes, they have been shifting this entire time. I wish they would release the numbers, I am curious and I think it would hel with speculation. But that is me. I am guessing that we will find out how many kids opted in at the meeting in a few weeks.

It's stupid because it only takes the opinions of people with 7th and 8th graders into account. Families with younger kids may have different opinions. We bought our home specifically BECAUSE it was zoned to South Lakes. We are an international family and see the value of an IB diploma. We will be disappointed if Fox Mill is moved to Skyview. We were under the impression that because it had not been very long since they moved it to South Lakes, it would remain stable for a long time.

Many people in the neighborhood were upset when FMES was moved from Oakton to SLHS and are working to see FMES moved to Skyview.

But are those families with older children? If you moved in the past 10 years, you moved knowing what school the neighborhood is zoned to. That is why I'm saying it's not fair that families with younger children don't have a say. Many of us moved here to go to an IB school.

[Anonymous]

Seema has said she wants Crossfield at Skyview because it keeps Sully kids in a Sully school, but the only part of Crossfield that is in Sully is Franklin Farm. Everything west and north of West Ox Rd is in Maren's district.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It will provide an important data point in the decision making. For example, it's going to be a useful data point in deciding moving crossfield or foxmil. That data won't affect Oakhill.

Anonymous wrote:The boundary decisions are not being made solely on opt-in numbers. That's DCUM speculation.

Yes, likley, one data point. It's not crowd sourcing the decision and only considering the interest of families with 8th graders. There are multiple considerations.

They should be considering more than the interests of current families with 8th graders, since the boundary has longer term implications for both FCPS and FCPS families.

They are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Seema has said she wants Crossfield at Skyview because it keeps Sully kids in a Sully school, but the only part of Crossfield that is in Sully is Franklin Farm. Everything west and north of West Ox Rd is in Maren's district.

There are only Hunter Mill and Sully kids at Crossfield, and more from Sully than Hunter Mill.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It will provide an important data point in the decision making. For example, it's going to be a useful data point in deciding moving crossfield or foxmil. That data won't affect Oakhill.

Anonymous wrote:The boundary decisions are not being made solely on opt-in numbers. That's DCUM speculation.

No one on the board has said anything of the sort. That is your opinion that you are presenting as fact for some reason.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are setting boundaries after opt-in is done probably to find an option with least resistance. After setting boundaries, if some people question the decision, they can say that: it's that way because your area has a high number of opt-in students which indicates that majority of students in the area wants to go to the new high school. Setting boundaries this way creates problems for the following years, although it's a politically "smart" approach.

Anonymous wrote:If I had a say, the boundaries would have been set in January and the only option would have been to opt out, but I am not. I can only speculate based on what the info that has been put out.

My only point in the opting in was that it is only meant to be this year because of how they screwed up the process. People ar eposting as if the opt in option from this year means the school will be a magnate (sp) school. It doesn’t. It is a unique option for this year.

Families at Chantilly that are not happy with the size of the school had the choice to opt in. We don’t know if they did or they did not. The SLHS PTA was told that 40-45 9th graders from SLHS opted in to Western. Those are the only numbers we have heard.

Chantilly will see kids move in 2 years when the boundaries are set.

Do I think things can shift? Yes, they have been shifting this entire time. I wish they would release the numbers, I am curious and I think it would hel with speculation. But that is me. I am guessing that we will find out how many kids opted in at the meeting in a few weeks.

It's stupid because it only takes the opinions of people with 7th and 8th graders into account. Families with younger kids may have different opinions. We bought our home specifically BECAUSE it was zoned to South Lakes. We are an international family and see the value of an IB diploma. We will be disappointed if Fox Mill is moved to Skyview. We were under the impression that because it had not been very long since they moved it to South Lakes, it would remain stable for a long time.

Many people in the neighborhood were upset when FMES was moved from Oakton to SLHS and are working to see FMES moved to Skyview.

But are those families with older children? If you moved in the past 10 years, you moved knowing what school the neighborhood is zoned to. That is why I'm saying it's not fair that families with younger children don't have a say. Many of us moved here to go to an IB school.

If parents wanted IB then you wouldn’t lose 30-50 students each year to pupil placement to AP schools and far more kids would complete the IB diploma.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Seema has said she wants Crossfield at Skyview because it keeps Sully kids in a Sully school, but the only part of Crossfield that is in Sully is Franklin Farm. Everything west and north of West Ox Rd is in Maren's district.

I wonder if it’s possible that the Franklin Farm part of Crossfield would get zoned to Skyview while the rest stays at Oakton? Kind of like how most of Navy goes to Oakton but a small part goes to Chantilly. Wouldn’t that be ironic considering who has been leading the RIO charge…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seema has said she wants Crossfield at Skyview because it keeps Sully kids in a Sully school, but the only part of Crossfield that is in Sully is Franklin Farm. Everything west and north of West Ox Rd is in Maren's district.

I wonder if it’s possible that the Franklin Farm part of Crossfield would get zoned to Skyview while the rest stays at Oakton? Kind of like how most of Navy goes to Oakton but a small part goes to Chantilly. Wouldn’t that be ironic considering who has been leading the RIO charge…

Although FCPS rarely followed its own rules during the boundary study they would not make Crossfield more of a split feeder than it already is. Remember a small number of students go to South Lakes from Crossfield already. I’m not saying Dixit is wrong but i’ve attended all of the Skyview-related meetings and don’t recall her saying that about Crossfield staying in Sully. What meeting was that at? She has in most cases shown very little interest in Crossfield.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It will provide an important data point in the decision making. For example, it's going to be a useful data point in deciding moving crossfield or foxmil. That data won't affect Oakhill.

Anonymous wrote:The boundary decisions are not being made solely on opt-in numbers. That's DCUM speculation.

Of course, the opt-in numbers won’t be the sole factor. But I suspect it’s going to be an important data point.

The new boundary study may already have been done, but I think this time Reid will run them by the board first to get feedback. That would take some time.

The original options A–D were presented to the public without showing them to the board first, and some board members were upset about it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It will provide an important data point in the decision making. For example, it's going to be a useful data point in deciding moving crossfield or foxmil. That data won't affect Oakhill.

Anonymous wrote:The boundary decisions are not being made solely on opt-in numbers. That's DCUM speculation.

Of course, the opt-in numbers won’t be the sole factor. But I suspect it’s going to be an important data point.

The new boundary study may already have been done, but I think this time Reid will run them by the board first to get feedback. That would take some time.

The original options A–D were presented to the public without showing them to the board first, and some board members were upset about it.

When will we finally see them!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are setting boundaries after opt-in is done probably to find an option with least resistance. After setting boundaries, if some people question the decision, they can say that: it's that way because your area has a high number of opt-in students which indicates that majority of students in the area wants to go to the new high school. Setting boundaries this way creates problems for the following years, although it's a politically "smart" approach.

Anonymous wrote:If I had a say, the boundaries would have been set in January and the only option would have been to opt out, but I am not. I can only speculate based on what the info that has been put out.

My only point in the opting in was that it is only meant to be this year because of how they screwed up the process. People ar eposting as if the opt in option from this year means the school will be a magnate (sp) school. It doesn’t. It is a unique option for this year.

Families at Chantilly that are not happy with the size of the school had the choice to opt in. We don’t know if they did or they did not. The SLHS PTA was told that 40-45 9th graders from SLHS opted in to Western. Those are the only numbers we have heard.

Chantilly will see kids move in 2 years when the boundaries are set.

Do I think things can shift? Yes, they have been shifting this entire time. I wish they would release the numbers, I am curious and I think it would hel with speculation. But that is me. I am guessing that we will find out how many kids opted in at the meeting in a few weeks.

It's stupid because it only takes the opinions of people with 7th and 8th graders into account. Families with younger kids may have different opinions. We bought our home specifically BECAUSE it was zoned to South Lakes. We are an international family and see the value of an IB diploma. We will be disappointed if Fox Mill is moved to Skyview. We were under the impression that because it had not been very long since they moved it to South Lakes, it would remain stable for a long time.

Many people in the neighborhood were upset when FMES was moved from Oakton to SLHS and are working to see FMES moved to Skyview.

Fox Mill was rezoned almost 20 years ago. Those people who were upset, their kids are at least in college or have been working. Parents who have middle school or elementary school-age kids now most likely bought the house after the rezoning knowing the zoned high school is South Lake.

If they are so upset with South Lake, why do they buy the house already zoned to South Lake?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are setting boundaries after opt-in is done probably to find an option with least resistance. After setting boundaries, if some people question the decision, they can say that: it's that way because your area has a high number of opt-in students which indicates that majority of students in the area wants to go to the new high school. Setting boundaries this way creates problems for the following years, although it's a politically "smart" approach.

Anonymous wrote:If I had a say, the boundaries would have been set in January and the only option would have been to opt out, but I am not. I can only speculate based on what the info that has been put out.

My only point in the opting in was that it is only meant to be this year because of how they screwed up the process. People ar eposting as if the opt in option from this year means the school will be a magnate (sp) school. It doesn’t. It is a unique option for this year.

Families at Chantilly that are not happy with the size of the school had the choice to opt in. We don’t know if they did or they did not. The SLHS PTA was told that 40-45 9th graders from SLHS opted in to Western. Those are the only numbers we have heard.

Chantilly will see kids move in 2 years when the boundaries are set.

Do I think things can shift? Yes, they have been shifting this entire time. I wish they would release the numbers, I am curious and I think it would hel with speculation. But that is me. I am guessing that we will find out how many kids opted in at the meeting in a few weeks.

It's stupid because it only takes the opinions of people with 7th and 8th graders into account. Families with younger kids may have different opinions. We bought our home specifically BECAUSE it was zoned to South Lakes. We are an international family and see the value of an IB diploma. We will be disappointed if Fox Mill is moved to Skyview. We were under the impression that because it had not been very long since they moved it to South Lakes, it would remain stable for a long time.

Many people in the neighborhood were upset when FMES was moved from Oakton to SLHS and are working to see FMES moved to Skyview.

Fox Mill was rezoned almost 20 years ago. Those people who were upset, their kids are at least in college or have been working. Parents who have middle school or elementary school-age kids now most likely bought the house after the rezoning knowing the zoned high school is South Lake.

If they are so upset with South Lake, why do they buy the house already zoned to South Lake?

If people were so upset with their commute from Crossfield to Oakton, then why buy a house zoned for that pyramid? If people wanted to have the best chance at staying at Oakton, then why not live right by the school? You could make that argument in any scenario.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are setting boundaries after opt-in is done probably to find an option with least resistance. After setting boundaries, if some people question the decision, they can say that: it's that way because your area has a high number of opt-in students which indicates that majority of students in the area wants to go to the new high school. Setting boundaries this way creates problems for the following years, although it's a politically "smart" approach.

Anonymous wrote:If I had a say, the boundaries would have been set in January and the only option would have been to opt out, but I am not. I can only speculate based on what the info that has been put out.

My only point in the opting in was that it is only meant to be this year because of how they screwed up the process. People ar eposting as if the opt in option from this year means the school will be a magnate (sp) school. It doesn’t. It is a unique option for this year.

Families at Chantilly that are not happy with the size of the school had the choice to opt in. We don’t know if they did or they did not. The SLHS PTA was told that 40-45 9th graders from SLHS opted in to Western. Those are the only numbers we have heard.

Chantilly will see kids move in 2 years when the boundaries are set.

Do I think things can shift? Yes, they have been shifting this entire time. I wish they would release the numbers, I am curious and I think it would hel with speculation. But that is me. I am guessing that we will find out how many kids opted in at the meeting in a few weeks.

It's stupid because it only takes the opinions of people with 7th and 8th graders into account. Families with younger kids may have different opinions. We bought our home specifically BECAUSE it was zoned to South Lakes. We are an international family and see the value of an IB diploma. We will be disappointed if Fox Mill is moved to Skyview. We were under the impression that because it had not been very long since they moved it to South Lakes, it would remain stable for a long time.

Many people in the neighborhood were upset when FMES was moved from Oakton to SLHS and are working to see FMES moved to Skyview.

Fox Mill was rezoned almost 20 years ago. Those people who were upset, their kids are at least in college or have been working. Parents who have middle school or elementary school-age kids now most likely bought the house after the rezoning knowing the zoned high school is South Lake.

If they are so upset with South Lake, why do they buy the house already zoned to South Lake?

For some of us because we knew we would principal place out but loved the neighborhood, the ES and the MS. If people were really committed to IB, there would be more kids working on the diploma and there would be fewer people pupil placing out of the school. A large number of the kids will take 1 IB class and call it a day. I know some Fox Mill families whose kids are working on the IB Diploma and love the program. Most of the people I know of working he diploma transferred into SLHS for the program. The vast majority of the parents at SLHS probably don't care IB vs AP because their kids are not taking that many of either class.

The only reason why the IB numbers are as high as they are at SLHS is because of the kids transferring in, most from Herndon.

There are a good number of parents who are hopeful that the boundaries include FMES and it isn't just the 8th graders. A decent number of rising 10th graders opted in to Skyview.

IB is a great program for people who want something that is very well defined and prescribed. AP is a far better fit for kids who want more electives and more advanced STEM classes. FCPS should have IB as an option at a set number of schools so kids who really want the Diploma can participate in the program but it not fair to force the program on kids who would do better with AP. The rest of the County has AP, making kids pupil place for the regularly offered classes that are a better fit for kids is bogus. IB should be a special offering that you opt in for, not something that you are forced into. The programs are not the same and parents shouldn't have to provide transportation for a program that is common across the country and the county.

IB should be treated like language immersion or academy programs. You opt into it and accept the additional transportation responsibilities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are setting boundaries after opt-in is done probably to find an option with least resistance. After setting boundaries, if some people question the decision, they can say that: it's that way because your area has a high number of opt-in students which indicates that majority of students in the area wants to go to the new high school. Setting boundaries this way creates problems for the following years, although it's a politically "smart" approach.

Anonymous wrote:If I had a say, the boundaries would have been set in January and the only option would have been to opt out, but I am not. I can only speculate based on what the info that has been put out.

My only point in the opting in was that it is only meant to be this year because of how they screwed up the process. People ar eposting as if the opt in option from this year means the school will be a magnate (sp) school. It doesn’t. It is a unique option for this year.

Families at Chantilly that are not happy with the size of the school had the choice to opt in. We don’t know if they did or they did not. The SLHS PTA was told that 40-45 9th graders from SLHS opted in to Western. Those are the only numbers we have heard.

Chantilly will see kids move in 2 years when the boundaries are set.

Do I think things can shift? Yes, they have been shifting this entire time. I wish they would release the numbers, I am curious and I think it would hel with speculation. But that is me. I am guessing that we will find out how many kids opted in at the meeting in a few weeks.

It's stupid because it only takes the opinions of people with 7th and 8th graders into account. Families with younger kids may have different opinions. We bought our home specifically BECAUSE it was zoned to South Lakes. We are an international family and see the value of an IB diploma. We will be disappointed if Fox Mill is moved to Skyview. We were under the impression that because it had not been very long since they moved it to South Lakes, it would remain stable for a long time.

Many people in the neighborhood were upset when FMES was moved from Oakton to SLHS and are working to see FMES moved to Skyview.

Fox Mill was rezoned almost 20 years ago. Those people who were upset, their kids are at least in college or have been working. Parents who have middle school or elementary school-age kids now most likely bought the house after the rezoning knowing the zoned high school is South Lake.

If they are so upset with South Lake, why do they buy the house already zoned to South Lake?

I don't live in Fox Mill and am not zoned to South Lakes.

However, when we purchased our house, we had two kids under 3. What were we looking for? A community with young kids and a pool. Loved that the elementary school was walking distance. And, a reasonable commute for DH's work.

Years later, our kids in a high school we love. But, that was not a consideration when we purchased. Far more concerned about the neighborhood and the elementary school.
Had no idea if we would stay in the area until high school because of DH's job.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seema has said she wants Crossfield at Skyview because it keeps Sully kids in a Sully school, but the only part of Crossfield that is in Sully is Franklin Farm. Everything west and north of West Ox Rd is in Maren's district.

I wonder if it’s possible that the Franklin Farm part of Crossfield would get zoned to Skyview while the rest stays at Oakton? Kind of like how most of Navy goes to Oakton but a small part goes to Chantilly. Wouldn’t that be ironic considering who has been leading the RIO charge…

Although FCPS rarely followed its own rules during the boundary study they would not make Crossfield more of a split feeder than it already is. Remember a small number of students go to South Lakes from Crossfield already. I’m not saying Dixit is wrong but i’ve attended all of the Skyview-related meetings and don’t recall her saying that about Crossfield staying in Sully. What meeting was that at? She has in most cases shown very little interest in Crossfield.

They are not very predictable because they don’t follow any clear principles.