Plane crash DCA?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Who was the ATC who left their shift early? Who was the supervisor who let them?

Ask Trump.
He’s in charge.

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Anonymous wrote:Who was the ATC who left their shift early? Who was the supervisor who let them?

Maybe they had explosive diarrhea. You have no idea the circumstances.

Shouldn't they have a backup?

Have you missed all the coverage everywhere about how understaffed the ENTIRE FAA is, and has been for a long time? Magical "backups" don't just appear, PP. Maybe they should, but they aren't a given like you seem to assume. Not in such an understaffed environment. Keep up with the coverage better. Even the increasingly problematic Post has covered this.

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Anonymous wrote:How many civilians need to die in an incident before you’d be convinced the public has a right to know why those lives were put in danger in the first place? I mean, this is as close to as bad as it gets. If we all supposedly already know that VIPs are constantly being shuttled around, how is it now a big secret who it was? The flight already happened! It’s not like you’re divulging a future flight itinerary by releasing the information. There’s no legitimate National security reason that outweighs the need for transparency here.

The investigation will triangulate to why the aircraft was in the wrong X,y,z coordinates across from the DCA airport.

Sure everyone feels awful but pretending it’s some former passengers fault, or top down order, or training hours demand, or Head of the Army’s “fault” is irrational and incorrect.

No one here knows what series of events caused the accident.

There could be many contributing factors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Who was the ATC who left their shift early? Who was the supervisor who let them?

If all the airport staff were straight white males we’d know all their names by now, I know that much.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Who was the ATC who left their shift early? Who was the supervisor who let them?

A. What will you do with their names?

B. Why do you think any of us know them?

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Anonymous wrote:Who was the ATC who left their shift early? Who was the supervisor who let them?

Maybe they had explosive diarrhea. You have no idea the circumstances.

Shouldn't they have a backup?

Have you missed all the coverage everywhere about how understaffed the ENTIRE FAA is, and has been for a long time? Magical "backups" don't just appear, PP. Maybe they should, but they aren't a given like you seem to assume. Not in such an understaffed environment. Keep up with the coverage better. Even the increasingly problematic Post has covered this.

Why’d the supe let the tower go shortstaffed just because some ATC asked to leave early? When I hear such a reckless favor granted I think: 1) idiots 2) unqualified 3) maybe a creepy boss trying to sleep with a female ATC and/or boss easily taken advantage of by female underlings.

Those are your first thoughts?? Flu and norovirus are rampant in the DC area. That was MY first thought: they weren’t feeling well.

Oh, so they drove straight to a hospital ER? Or just a cough or tummy ache? Now 70 people are dead. Oops.

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Anonymous wrote:Who was the ATC who left their shift early? Who was the supervisor who let them?

Maybe they had explosive diarrhea. You have no idea the circumstances.

Shouldn't they have a backup?

Have you missed all the coverage everywhere about how understaffed the ENTIRE FAA is, and has been for a long time? Magical "backups" don't just appear, PP. Maybe they should, but they aren't a given like you seem to assume. Not in such an understaffed environment. Keep up with the coverage better. Even the increasingly problematic Post has covered this.

Why’d the supe let the tower go shortstaffed just because some ATC asked to leave early? When I hear such a reckless favor granted I think: 1) idiots 2) unqualified 3) maybe a creepy boss trying to sleep with a female ATC and/or boss easily taken advantage of by female underlings.

Those are your first thoughts?? Flu and norovirus are rampant in the DC area. That was MY first thought: they weren’t feeling well.

If the ATC was allowed to leave early for a legit health crisis we would have already learned of it. It was almost certainly a frivolous reason.

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Anonymous wrote:Who was the ATC who left their shift early? Who was the supervisor who let them?

Maybe they had explosive diarrhea. You have no idea the circumstances.

Shouldn't they have a backup?

They'd just received an email asking them to resign. They are already understaffed. But maybe you can ask the Peter Thiel boy toys helping Elon Musk break into the government computer systems.

They have access to classified info already, so maybe the 19 yo who goes by "bigballs" can help you or maybe Luke Farritor can let you know why they didn't have backup.

After all, they are in charge at OPM now!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who was the ATC who left their shift early? Who was the supervisor who let them?

Maybe they had explosive diarrhea. You have no idea the circumstances.

Shouldn't they have a backup?

They'd just received an email asking them to resign. They are already understaffed. But maybe you can ask the Peter Thiel boy toys helping Elon Musk break into the government computer systems.

They have access to classified info already, so maybe the 19 yo who goes by "bigballs" can help you or maybe Luke Farritor can let you know why they didn't have backup.

After all, they are in charge at OPM now!

ATC is not allowed to resign. They aren't part of that deal that's being offered.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who was the ATC who left their shift early? Who was the supervisor who let them?

Maybe they had explosive diarrhea. You have no idea the circumstances.

Shouldn't they have a backup?

They'd just received an email asking them to resign. They are already understaffed. But maybe you can ask the Peter Thiel boy toys helping Elon Musk break into the government computer systems.

They have access to classified info already, so maybe the 19 yo who goes by "bigballs" can help you or maybe Luke Farritor can let you know why they didn't have backup.

After all, they are in charge at OPM now!

ATC is not allowed to resign. They aren't part of that deal that's being offered.

A day before the crash they received letters encouraging them to resign. That was a Musk screw up. Not surprising since his 19 year-olds have no idea how our government actually functions.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who was the ATC who left their shift early? Who was the supervisor who let them?

Maybe they had explosive diarrhea. You have no idea the circumstances.

Shouldn't they have a backup?

Have you missed all the coverage everywhere about how understaffed the ENTIRE FAA is, and has been for a long time? Magical "backups" don't just appear, PP. Maybe they should, but they aren't a given like you seem to assume. Not in such an understaffed environment. Keep up with the coverage better. Even the increasingly problematic Post has covered this.

Why’d the supe let the tower go shortstaffed just because some ATC asked to leave early? When I hear such a reckless favor granted I think: 1) idiots 2) unqualified 3) maybe a creepy boss trying to sleep with a female ATC and/or boss easily taken advantage of by female underlings.

Those are your first thoughts?? Flu and norovirus are rampant in the DC area. That was MY first thought: they weren’t feeling well.

Oh, so they drove straight to a hospital ER? Or just a cough or tummy ache? Now 70 people are dead. Oops.

How would a second ATC have changed the outcome? The AT saw the issue. The Helo confirmed TWICE that he saw the plane and would go behind. He obviously didn’t but was ATC supposed to assume the military was lying? What would second controller have done?

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Anonymous wrote:Who was the ATC who left their shift early? Who was the supervisor who let them?

If all the airport staff were straight white males we’d know all their names by now, I know that much.

what? Why?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who was the ATC who left their shift early? Who was the supervisor who let them?

Maybe they had explosive diarrhea. You have no idea the circumstances.

Shouldn't they have a backup?

Have you missed all the coverage everywhere about how understaffed the ENTIRE FAA is, and has been for a long time? Magical "backups" don't just appear, PP. Maybe they should, but they aren't a given like you seem to assume. Not in such an understaffed environment. Keep up with the coverage better. Even the increasingly problematic Post has covered this.

This. It sounds like many of you people either never read the news or never travel. We recently flew into and out of Newark on our way out of the country and the flights had to circle for HOURS because they couldn't land all the planes they had up there safely with so few ATCs.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who was the ATC who left their shift early? Who was the supervisor who let them?

Maybe they had explosive diarrhea. You have no idea the circumstances.

Shouldn't they have a backup?

Have you missed all the coverage everywhere about how understaffed the ENTIRE FAA is, and has been for a long time? Magical "backups" don't just appear, PP. Maybe they should, but they aren't a given like you seem to assume. Not in such an understaffed environment. Keep up with the coverage better. Even the increasingly problematic Post has covered this.

This. It sounds like many of you people either never read the news or never travel. We recently flew into and out of Newark on our way out of the country and the flights had to circle for HOURS because they couldn't land all the planes they had up there safely with so few ATCs.

That is strange as those planes should never have taken off if it was known about congestion during landing time. Perhaps weather happened? I am doubting the pilot announced there was not enough ATC.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who was the ATC who left their shift early? Who was the supervisor who let them?

Maybe they had explosive diarrhea. You have no idea the circumstances.

Shouldn't they have a backup?

Have you missed all the coverage everywhere about how understaffed the ENTIRE FAA is, and has been for a long time? Magical "backups" don't just appear, PP. Maybe they should, but they aren't a given like you seem to assume. Not in such an understaffed environment. Keep up with the coverage better. Even the increasingly problematic Post has covered this.

This. It sounds like many of you people either never read the news or never travel. We recently flew into and out of Newark on our way out of the country and the flights had to circle for HOURS because they couldn't land all the planes they had up there safely with so few ATCs.

I was on a flight a year ago and this happened with DCA. The flight attendant told me it was getting really common at DCA because they were so short staffed on ATCs. She said they sometimes even have to divert to Dulles because they don’t have the fuel to keep circling. I’ve been trying to fly BWI instead of DCA but it’s not always possible.
If there was another ATC specifically for the helicopter traffic maybe they could have been more specific or said something immediately when it became clear the helicopter was not in the right place.
I feel like if they had to close the airport for ATC shortages they would staff them with more redundancy.