UHC CEO Gunned Down in Midtown Manhattan

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It doesn't matter too much what us middle age parents/professionals think about this.

On the social media I am seeing - Twitter and especially TikTok, this guy is a hero among millennials and younger.

Right or wrong, this is sparking a movement. The mainstream news and law enforcement will try to suppress it, but it is there.

The guy's twitter gives hints that he was a libertarian to maybe 'right' but he didn't seem radicalized politically.

This is going to be another shock to the DCUM bubble. The outside world and younger gen. is rooting for this guy. Does not matter what boomers and Genx around here think. They see their future as bleak.

[Anonymous]

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/09/nyregion/united-healthcare-ceo-shooting-luigi-mangione.html?

The above is an interesting update.

The guy was in pain.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not to make light of the situation, but will Adrian Grenier pay Luigi Mangione in the movie? If not, who and who will pay the CEO? Dave Coulier in a break out dramatic role while battling cancer.

Adrian is almost 50. Dave is 65. WAY too old for those roles.

My vote for Luigi is Finn Wolfhard. He'll be the right age when the movie comes out, and he's gotten dreamy as he's gotten older.

I think Jonah Hill could pull Brian Thompson. He's got the right look and did great in War Dogs and Wolf of Wall Street.

The movie would be really boring.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The manager of the commune where he lived in Hawaii said, effectively, that Luigi couldn’t have sex because of his back pain. So it turns out he WAS involuntarily celibate!

The dude was photographed hiking in Hawaii, walzing and biking around NYC, was able to stay super buff which means lifting heavy weights, and you want me to believe he couldn't have sex bc of back pain? in any position? Sure.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The manager of the commune where he lived in Hawaii said, effectively, that Luigi couldn’t have sex because of his back pain. So it turns out he WAS involuntarily celibate!

The dude was photographed hiking in Hawaii, walzing and biking around NYC, was able to stay super buff which means lifting heavy weights, and you want me to believe he couldn't have sex bc of back pain? in any position? Sure.

I was joking. People gave me a hard time yesterday for calling him an incel.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Tim Walz was the murdered CEO’s personal friend.

oh wow

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Tim Walz was the murdered CEO’s personal friend.

oh wow

It’s not true. Pp made it up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mental illness probably made worse by weed.
Psychosis directed at United Health Care.
Checked out from his family (mental health symptom)
Drifting around the US and elsewhere (another strong mental health symptom)

Back surgeries are notorious for bad outcomes. The reality is his family could have paid cash for him to go to the Mayo Clinic for follow ups on the back surgery gone wrong.

There is so many random ignorant statements made on this thread without any kind of information. How do you know he had a bad surgeries? Surgeries aren't silver bullets? How do you know there aren't other circumstances that caused him to problems.

I agree. And we don't know for certain how long it had been since he spoke to his family.

We don't know who he was speaking to on the cell phone before the killing or if he was speaking to anyone at all.

Too many assumptions around here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The manager of the commune where he lived in Hawaii said, effectively, that Luigi couldn’t have sex because of his back pain. So it turns out he WAS involuntarily celibate!

link?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In case you are one of those who are morally confused:

Good guy: Daniel Penny
Bad Guy: Luigi Mangione

+1

There are lots of seriously twisted and perverted people out there. So much justification over an assassination. There are people comparing this to what the founding fathers did for political change and text pretzel logic to reach those conclusions.

I think there's a LOT of righteous anger in this country towards the insurance industry. Righteous.

Sure, some people try to game the system. Those individuals pale in comparison to how the insurance industry is gaming the system.

If you can't understand these simple facts, neither I nor anyone else can help you.

So far as the vast majority of people are concerned, the murder of a corrupt, crooked member of this perverted insurance scam industry was a *shrug* event.

You must work in the insurance industry if you can't appreciate the frustration and anger the average America feels.

I don’t work for the insurance industry and I have had claims denied by insurance companies. I understand there is a lot of frustration, but frustration does not make murder acceptable. I bet you yourself feel frustration about many things. I bet you feel frustrations over things like politics, but you’re not going to go out and assassinate a politician, a president or a CEO. Just because you’re frustrated does not mean murder is acceptable.

If you’re advocating for people assassinating people they’re frustrated with well then I can’t help you understand how wrong it is.

What Luigi did wasn’t heroic. In fact, he was a coward. He shot the man in the back. He didn’t even have the righteous indignation or guts to say something to his face.

I am telling you that people are frustrated and angry. Where did I state I am advocating for murder?

Please read what I stated again.

The industry needs to get overhauled with closer regulation. Sure, they shouldn't be required to cover weight loss medication for cosmetic reasons. Sure, they shouldn't be required to cover every politicized and popular medical procedure that is not medically necessary. But denying and delaying medically critical covered procedures is immoral, unethical, and inexcusable. BC/BS trying to limit anesthesia in the middle of a complicated surgery is BEYOND reasonable denial. They were going for it. BC/BS was really going for it.

Discussions of the proposed BCBS policy have been insane. Anesthesiologists' lobbying firm deserves a huge bonus.

Obviously they weren't going to wake people up in the middle of the surgery. The idea was clearly to limit billing and reimbursement based on how long the procedure should have taken. Kind of like a mechanic billing you for labor hours based on the book times. If they opened you up and found another problem, then that could and would be added to the claim.

Yes, sometimes one case will take a little bit longer than another case, and you'll get paid the same for both, but that's pretty normal. This is basically how it works for other doctors.

This is a weird thing to complain about when people generally want to know how much a procedure will cost before going in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The manager of the commune where he lived in Hawaii said, effectively, that Luigi couldn’t have sex because of his back pain. So it turns out he WAS involuntarily celibate!

link?

It's in the NYT article posted a few comments back.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The manager of the commune where he lived in Hawaii said, effectively, that Luigi couldn’t have sex because of his back pain. So it turns out he WAS involuntarily celibate!

link?

https://people.com/luigi-mangione-back-pain-went-radio-silent-friends-before-brian-thompson-shooting-reports-8758716

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The manager of the commune where he lived in Hawaii said, effectively, that Luigi couldn’t have sex because of his back pain. So it turns out he WAS involuntarily celibate!

link?

Still, Mr. Martin said, he and others in the community came to understand that the pain was no small matter to a young man yearning for a normal lifestyle. “He knew that dating and being physically intimate with his back condition wasn’t possible,” Mr. Martin said. “I remember him telling me that, and my heart just breaks.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/09/nyregion/united-healthcare-ceo-shooting-luigi-mangione.html?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mental illness probably made worse by weed.
Psychosis directed at United Health Care.
Checked out from his family (mental health symptom)
Drifting around the US and elsewhere (another strong mental health symptom)

Back surgeries are notorious for bad outcomes. The reality is his family could have paid cash for him to go to the Mayo Clinic for follow ups on the back surgery gone wrong.

There is so many random ignorant statements made on this thread without any kind of information. How do you know he had a bad surgeries? Surgeries aren't silver bullets? How do you know there aren't other circumstances that caused him to problems.

I agree. And we don't know for certain how long it had been since he spoke to his family.

We don't know who he was speaking to on the cell phone before the killing or if he was speaking to anyone at all.

Too many assumptions around here.

I just posted a link above to the New York Times story that answers some of these questions.

[Anonymous]

I can’t post it here but google The Allopathic Complex and Its Consequences. It’s the manifesto. His mother suffered from debilitating pain and UnitedHealthCare was not helpful. Then he suffered his own back pain.