Jen Hatmaker

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:(Also I want to know how many choices her CPA is giving her, because we are not a people known for giving choices.)

Agree! I’ve been asked at work ( by the development department) to realize there is more than one way of doing things. Our auditors disagree.

[Anonymous]

Agree. I’ve noticed that some people are changing beliefs, but not approach. Folks who were self righteous and feverishly proselytized their evangelical beliefs are now self righteous in their deconstructed beliefs. Everything extreme and polarizing and they are always right and there’s always a spirit of viciousness under whichever veil they’re currently wearing.

Whoa this was so well-said. This is basically describing Jen and her bunch of internet besties, maybe minus Tara. Jen, Sarah B, Jamie W, and Kristen were all card-carrying youth group./choir/church superstars who are now dissing the church at every turn. They are as Pharisaical as deconstructing people as they were as church members. Gosh, I wish they'd find their way back. I cringe because I feel like, hey, Jesus probably doesn't want you guys insulting his church in every blog post.
Even Jen and Glennon on the podcast were scorning certain Bible passages about not following your heart or leaning on your own understanding.

Also, early 80s sex ed in the Bible belt student right here. My parents were baby boomers who were more than happy to talk about sexual matters and let me read whatever I wanted. They took me to church when I was very young but then stopped going. I caught rides to youth group with a local family.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one cares, Jen, that you’re birthday brunch is 3 weeks after your birthday.

That whole exhausted-by-choices post was a pretty classic unaware of her privilege post. So many of her readers don’t have time for brunches or girlfriends who can afford to take them to one. Plus, oh poor you—you have multiple whole teams who do all the research and lay all the groundwork and then present you with good choices, plus a business coach, a CPA etc, etc. How many of us would love to be supported by professionals like this who do all introductory work and then only bring us final choices to make!

All I could do is picture her lounging on her porch swing as people lay various choices out in front of her. I am sure there is more to what she does, but seriously...welcome to being an adult, lady! And while, as a middle child, I am very bad at choosing a restaurant when my husband and I go out (we're both middle children so it's fun when neither of us has a clearly defined preference), choosing a place to go with a friend for my birthday would be so easy! It feels like drama generated just for the sake of likes, including the 'LET US LIVE, AMERICA!' part. Does she not realize that working around schedules and doing something 3 weeks later is a perfectly normal part of life? Absolutely zero of us are going to clutch our pearls about that.

Ex-ANC here.

The Laura she is talking to is a beloved member of the church and genuinely kind. She also has a BOOK out that Jen could have easily promoted to her fans. Instead she posts screenshots from a private conversation where she treats Laura like picking a brunch spot is an insurmountable inconvenience. Jen, you’re heinous and Laura deserves better.

[Anonymous]

Wonder if Jen takes her friends out for brunch for *their* birthdays?

[Anonymous]

Jen is always the PRINCeSS. In every relationship and every endeavor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Today’s precious princess post was the limit for me. How stupid.

I'm really sorry that I went and read that post. Poor, pitiful princess. Doesn't she have anything better or uplifting to say? I quit following her a while back, stopped getting her emails. I "just can't" with all that nonsense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Agree. I’ve noticed that some people are changing beliefs, but not approach. Folks who were self righteous and feverishly proselytized their evangelical beliefs are now self righteous in their deconstructed beliefs. Everything extreme and polarizing and they are always right and there’s always a spirit of viciousness under whichever veil they’re currently wearing.

Whoa this was so well-said. This is basically describing Jen and her bunch of internet besties, maybe minus Tara. Jen, Sarah B, Jamie W, and Kristen were all card-carrying youth group./choir/church superstars who are now dissing the church at every turn. They are as Pharisaical as deconstructing people as they were as church members. Gosh, I wish they'd find their way back. I cringe because I feel like, hey, Jesus probably doesn't want you guys insulting his church in every blog post.
Even Jen and Glennon on the podcast were scorning certain Bible passages about not following your heart or leaning on your own understanding.

Also, early 80s sex ed in the Bible belt student right here. My parents were baby boomers who were more than happy to talk about sexual matters and let me read whatever I wanted. They took me to church when I was very young but then stopped going. I caught rides to youth group with a local family.

I'll have to disagree with you slightly here. Sarah B. may have some disagreements with some arms of the church, but she remains committed to loving the church in all its imperfections. Her attitude has always been "I believe these things with all my heart, but I also know that some day I may realize I was wrong. So at least I want to know I was kind."

But I do think you have a point about some people now channeling their evangelical fervor in the opposite direction. I think that when you've been brought up thinking that there is only one way of holding belief...an all out I AM RIGHT AND THAT'S THE END OF IT!!!!...you don't just break that pattern by shifting beliefs. What's the saying? "Wherever you go, there you are." That's why (to bring it back to Jen) I have to wonder 'was anything authentic?' She's always been a bit dramatic, but I didn't get this princessy vibe from her early stuff. So is this who she has always been, deep down?

[Anonymous]

I cannot stand the suspense waiting on Brando's podcast to be released tomorrow. Was Texas Barbie his secret lover in his marriage, did he really leave rehab after 7 days, had he had multiple affairs, does he truly have a gambling, drug, drinking problem, are all of his kids talking to him, and what the hell did Jen see that "can never be un-seen"? This will be good and as far as I'm concerned closer to the truth of everything. Because we all know what she has said is simply out of hurt and anger. I do not condone cheating but who knows what was going on behind closed doors. I do not think he will dish out all the dirty laundry because it is pretty obvious he has been shush for two years now while she has done nothing but make him look like the villain. Hopefully her "beloved" truth will actually be told tomorrow. Hurry up Tuesday, we need answers.

[Anonymous]

All these ex-pastor wife/missionary/Bible teachers who now make fun of their former beliefs. They sit in the seats with the scoffers.

"How blessed is the man who does not walk in the counsel of the ungodly, nor stand in the path of sinners, nor sit in the seat of scoffers”.

"In the last time there will be scoffers, following their own ungodly passions.”

Condescension and scorn just drip from these ladies lips.
Jen’s podcast with Glennon was truly chilling.

The progression of unbelief begins with listening to ungodly counsel and ends with joining the scoffers.

God doesn’t seem to like scoffers very much.

[Anonymous]

Yes when Glennon and Jen started mocking those Bible verses I felt this dread run through me. I think they were trying to laugh at those scriptures about the heart being misunderstood and poorly used to cause women doubt their own inner discernment but the way they did it felt like they lack a fear of God. I’m trying to give grace that they are operating out of their wounds but it sure seems dangerous to snicker at the Bible.

[Anonymous]

Jen’s podcast with Glennon was truly chilling

It was hard to listen to.

[Anonymous]

I'll have to disagree with you slightly here. Sarah B. may have some disagreements with some arms of the church, but she remains committed to loving the church in all its imperfections

I feel, though, that Sarah, who by her own definition is a "happy, clappy" type of Christian, has made some real missteps regarding Jesus' divinity. She implied he was racist in the passage with the Syro-Phoenician woman, when she really lacked understanding the context of the exchange. And when people pointed it out to her, she stuck by her misinterpretation. Sarah is a warm and friendly and yes, kind, person, but her theology is drifting from Christianity. Her writing, to me, never really makes a point. It frustrates me because I want to like it and her voice. But I feel like she is wasting my time. Jamie, Kristen and Jen are good writers but how true are their stories? Jen has a talent for good phrasing. Jamie wants to shock you and Kristen is an unrecovered know-it-all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I cannot stand the suspense waiting on Brando's podcast to be released tomorrow. Was Texas Barbie his secret lover in his marriage, did he really leave rehab after 7 days, had he had multiple affairs, does he truly have a gambling, drug, drinking problem, are all of his kids talking to him, and what the hell did Jen see that "can never be un-seen"? This will be good and as far as I'm concerned closer to the truth of everything. Because we all know what she has said is simply out of hurt and anger. I do not condone cheating but who knows what was going on behind closed doors. I do not think he will dish out all the dirty laundry because it is pretty obvious he has been shush for two years now while she has done nothing but make him look like the villain. Hopefully her "beloved" truth will actually be told tomorrow. Hurry up Tuesday, we need answers.

There’s almost no way he spills any beans. He’ll reinforce the tale that he met Tina after the divorce (unlikely) and he’ll talk about his new job. He’s a salesman now, so anything he puts out there will be polished and protected. No one wants to buy a million dollar ranchette from someone who has a questionable not-too-distant past. He has got to come across as steady, dependable, and trustworthy. I don’t think he was any of these things in his marriage, so I’m not counting on anything other than a sales pitch. I won’t be listening, but I’ll be lurking here for a recap 😂

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I cannot stand the suspense waiting on Brando's podcast to be released tomorrow. Was Texas Barbie his secret lover in his marriage, did he really leave rehab after 7 days, had he had multiple affairs, does he truly have a gambling, drug, drinking problem, are all of his kids talking to him, and what the hell did Jen see that "can never be un-seen"? This will be good and as far as I'm concerned closer to the truth of everything. Because we all know what she has said is simply out of hurt and anger. I do not condone cheating but who knows what was going on behind closed doors. I do not think he will dish out all the dirty laundry because it is pretty obvious he has been shush for two years now while she has done nothing but make him look like the villain. Hopefully her "beloved" truth will actually be told tomorrow. Hurry up Tuesday, we need answers.

There’s like zero chance he’s going to give anything more than a glossed over version of how he hit a major low but now found healing and just wants a chance to move on. Have you ever seen his social media? He tries pretty darn hard to look good/cool all the time. If he was cheating with a stripper do you really think he’s going to talk about it on a podcast? Or if he blew a ton of money gambling etc,? No way. I’m not suggesting he should tell all. But the little clips he’s shared basically sound kinda whiny. Like the bit about having to hit his lowest and be someone in the public eye and that being hard- well no kidding, every celebrity loves the attention until they get caught screwing up. He’ll gloss over what really happened and focus on recovering and how he deserves not to have anyone hold his actions against him because he’s moving forward. Good for him…but if you are really moving forward, you also don’t care what random strangers post/think about what you did or didn’t do…and he gives off the distinct vibe he’s still trying to control the narrative so he looks good, or at least less bad.

[Anonymous]

Talking about his addictions and challenges the last few or several years does not necessarily equate spilling the beans on Jen and his/their relationships, issues and splitting up. I think it may just be about his addictions and confusions and personal demons. There may be a lot of hints and speculations and glimmers reading between the lines, but if he hasn’t dumped on Jen yet even though she’s obviously cast him as the bad guy and herself as the victim, what purpose would there be in now doing some kind of tell all casting her as the villain. If anything, he of all people should know anything he says that throws any type of shade on her would feed into and allow her present to herself as even more a persecuted poor misunderstood I tried to take the high road blah blah click on this link because Imma single mom. I have the feeling he’s moved on from her completely and has no desire to bring her up in any way.

But I’m not on Instagram and only know what I read here so could be completely off. In which case, 🍿 😁