Meghan and Prince Harry are moving to the U.S./Canada - OFFICIAL

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I really think Meghan pulled a bait and switch.

As young and ditzy Chelsy and Cressida were, they were smart enough to realize the royal life is not the life they wanted and broke up with Harry. Meghan probably reassured Harry she could handle the pressure, and it was the kind of life she wanted. Bait and switch. And now poor Harry is stuck and has no choice to try to make his marriage work. But oops - Meghan doesn't actually want to give up the royal title and perks; she just doesn't want to do the boring stuff. She wants to hang out at George Clooney's villa and Beyonce's yacht.

I agree with others - they will have a rough transition. They think the media will lessen up - it won't.

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Who the heck would have expected the racism? Plus having a kid is a game-changer in a way you cannot foresee.

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Anonymous wrote:Exactly. Now they just look like grifters.

Maybe to you. To me and a lot of other people (see the majority positive international coverage) they look smart: they are protecting their child, setting up a way to independent wealth, and getting themselves away from a toxic family. Seems brilliant.

Yes... they are going to make a fortune (or try to make a fortune) by being grifters.... because that's what it is. Manipulating rich people to make yourself rich through huge speaking fees when you say nothing of particular merit. At least other famous speakers have illustrious careers (former presidents, for example).

I'm all for people making a fortune but let's not pretend this is a morally better way of doing it, especially as the at the same time want to be spokesmen for oppression and environmental causes and all that at the same time. Errr? Am I missing something here? Why not donate your fat speaking fees to save the environment rather than paying for your private jet, eh?

Like I said earlier, I'd have total respect and completely support them if their plan was to retreat to a quiet life somewhere. Live an environmentally sustainable lifestyle on a farm in western Canada. Maybe pop back to the UK a few times a year for ceremonies but otherwise live very privately with just their children and close friends. That would meet their need for privacy and to have their own life. But that's not what's happening, is it? They want to be a different kind of royal: celebrities. Which means they'll still be in the nasty public eye, full media attention, press following them everywhere, jetting around the world on high carbon private jets to lecture about saving the environment, hanging out on the red carpet with the Clooneys and other celebs.

Shrugs.

There are many ways to live a sustainable lifestyle that don’t require you to live on a farm. If that is the only way to do it then we are truly effed. They need security. Harry has previously had his life threatened and been a target of kidnapping while he was in the military. Plus if they are as reviled as you say they are in the UK then they are also at risk. So either they can have their costs paid by Charles or they can work. But you seem to be against either.

Rather telling you ignored the hypocrisies involved here.

Living in a big mansion and jetting around in a private jet all the time = hypocrite, not environmentalist. Making a fortune through speaking fees and grifting from your new foundation, while telling people how to be better environmentalists while simultaneously not following it yourself = hypocrite.

That was a big part of the criticism laid against Harry and Meghan over the past year or so.

Actions speak louder than words. And unfortunately their actions to date aren't encouraging. What they proclaim they want to do does not match up with the realities of being a proper environmentalist or a proper social reformer. Saying you're retreating from the royal life to live the quiet life a la Greta Garbo is utterly honorable and understandable. Leaving the royal life to be another shallow rich celeb with double standards is not.

Are you the poster that thinks they should go live on a farm and raise animals?

It'd be far less controversial if they did. And understandable. But they want to go off to make money by being hypocrites. And that is the point you seem to have trouble grasping. Making millions telling people to save the environment while flying around in private jets at the same time. Ok. Go for it!

Sweetie, I asked a simple question. Are you the poster upthread that said they would respect them more if they moved onto a farm and raised animals? Yes or no?

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Here Are 20 Headlines Comparing Meghan Markle To Kate Middleton That May Show Why She And Prince Harry Are Cutting Off Royal Reporters

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ellievhall/meghan-markle-kate-middleton-double-standards-royal?utm_source=dynamic&utm_campaign=bfsharefacebook&ref=mobile_share

That's obscene. Such double standards.

Anyone who follows the Royals knows that you could pull out headlines showing the poor treatment of any Royal.

Can you pull some nasty Kate headlines then?

Not pp but the UK press nicknamed her "Waity Katy" because she hung around for EIGHT years before they got married.

Which turned out to be the smart thing to do considering Meghan couldn’t even make it 2!

What? This makes no sense. Meghan didn’t have to hang around, as Harry proposed relatively quickly.

Kate waited around while Wills was out sowing his wild oats, as she had no ambition to do anything with her life, save for marrying William.

She met him at 19, not 36. Of course they stayed together for several years before getting engaged. But this is besides the point, she was taunted with Waity Katie for years, often to her face, because she wasn't a member of the family and there were fewer restrictions on the press. Her parents were fashioned as country bumpkins, social climbers, her sister was hounded. Let's be honest, it wasn't the press that drove the Sussexes decision, they just didn't want to be second fiddle and I can't say I blame them.

Many people meet their spouse in college and still develop a real career for themselves (I did!) they called her Waity because she did nothing befitting her degree. No one knew who Pippa was until Kate’s wedding and Pippa sought the press attention so she could hawk her basic garbage (remember Pippa tips?). That said I do think the press coverage of her parents was unfair. Carole Middleton seems like a very ambitious and hardworking person who is basically like a classier, British Kris Jenner. And just like Kris her least successful child is her son.

I’ve forgiven Kate for not doing much with her degree. I myself failed two classes in a semester when putting too much time into a relationship. And the relationship ended.

I ended up re-taking the classes, which doesnt remove the Fs from my college transcript but did replace the grade for the GPA. This issue hasn’t followed me at all, and I feel like a normal amount of success for an average person.

I can imagine being in love with William and loved by him, and all of the on and off stuff was intoxicating and distracting.

We all make certain mistakes and we can’t go back in time. Yes, you can remember this little fact about her, but I don’t know that there are more perfect people for the job than her. If there were someone else.. the stars would have had to align perfectly. Again, you can’t go back and line everything up just so.

They broke up multiple times during this time for William to pursue other women. Which is all the more reason why her not pursuing a real career is so weird. Long-term (10 years!!!) underemployment/unemployment is not a little fact.

And why it's not surprising that William is cheating on her now. Wills can't keep it in his pants.

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Anonymous wrote:I really think Meghan pulled a bait and switch.

As young and ditzy Chelsy and Cressida were, they were smart enough to realize the royal life is not the life they wanted and broke up with Harry. Meghan probably reassured Harry she could handle the pressure, and it was the kind of life she wanted. Bait and switch. And now poor Harry is stuck and has no choice to try to make his marriage work. But oops - Meghan doesn't actually want to give up the royal title and perks; she just doesn't want to do the boring stuff. She wants to hang out at George Clooney's villa and Beyonce's yacht.

I agree with others - they will have a rough transition. They think the media will lessen up - it won't.

I really think Harry wanted out of being a senior member of the Royal Family with all of the tedium and hard work that is required, and he married an American in order to create an escape hatch.

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Anonymous wrote:This decision was Harry's decision, as much as MM's decision. He's wanted out since the army. He chose to not give Archie a titke, because he didn't want Archie to be stuck in the role of being a Royal. He watched the press hound his mother to death and does not want that for his wife.

Hate on MM as much as you want, but she has a husband who loves and protects her. He's standing up.to his entire family and his country for her and their baby. It's really romantic.

Puke.

How many women bitch on a daily basis that their husband doesn't support them or their jobs or take their side against the husband's family? Harry is doing all of that. He's being an awesome husband.

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I hope to goodness they get mauled to death by a grizzly in Vancouver.
Dear god please send Ursus arctos horribilis to put an end to the media's obsession with this couple.

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Do you think Kate is happy or upset that H and M have done this?

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Anonymous wrote:I really think Meghan pulled a bait and switch.

As young and ditzy Chelsy and Cressida were, they were smart enough to realize the royal life is not the life they wanted and broke up with Harry. Meghan probably reassured Harry she could handle the pressure, and it was the kind of life she wanted. Bait and switch. And now poor Harry is stuck and has no choice to try to make his marriage work. But oops - Meghan doesn't actually want to give up the royal title and perks; she just doesn't want to do the boring stuff. She wants to hang out at George Clooney's villa and Beyonce's yacht.

I agree with others - they will have a rough transition. They think the media will lessen up - it won't.

Please. Of course it will.

They will control media access and simply denying access to the Royal Rota does a lot to neutralize the racist coverage. Sure, the British press can still run racist stories BUT everything will be old news after it’s reported by legitimate news organizations. They will be printing secondhand photos and regurgitating stories a day after the real news organization run them. THAT is why the British press is so angry. They didn’t realize Harry had the ability to do this. Too bad for them!

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Anonymous wrote:Glad the US media is finally showing what's been happening for 3 years. Let's see if more outlets pick up on it.

It's just the same 20 headlines curated out of the thousands and thousands of headlines

Maybe the little PR stunt is working. Victim is en vogue these days.

Until they include all of the Waity Katie headlines along with her adn Pippa getting blasted for being "Wysteria Sisters" and topless photos taken with a wide angled lense while she was on a private boat. Meghan can calm the F down with her 'headline' crusade.

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Anonymous wrote:I really think Meghan pulled a bait and switch.

As young and ditzy Chelsy and Cressida were, they were smart enough to realize the royal life is not the life they wanted and broke up with Harry. Meghan probably reassured Harry she could handle the pressure, and it was the kind of life she wanted. Bait and switch. And now poor Harry is stuck and has no choice to try to make his marriage work. But oops - Meghan doesn't actually want to give up the royal title and perks; she just doesn't want to do the boring stuff. She wants to hang out at George Clooney's villa and Beyonce's yacht.

I agree with others - they will have a rough transition. They think the media will lessen up - it won't.

I really think Harry wanted out of being a senior member of the Royal Family with all of the tedium and hard work that is required, and he married an American in order to create an escape hatch.

I think this is even more complex than the reality.. which is that as a young bachelor, it made sense to some degree for Harry to play the role of a senior Royal. It took some of the burden off Wills and Kate while they bred their heir and spare. Now, as a husband and father who is not in line for succession, it makes sense that he should turn his focus to his family and his own life.

They never said they wanted to cut ties - they merely said they wanted to step back from the position of royals, which is a life constantly on duty. They chose not to give Archie a title, but Anne, the Queen’s daughter, chose not to give her children titles. They are still Royals. Just not in the same capacity.

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Here Are 20 Headlines Comparing Meghan Markle To Kate Middleton That May Show Why She And Prince Harry Are Cutting Off Royal Reporters

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ellievhall/meghan-markle-kate-middleton-double-standards-royal?utm_source=dynamic&utm_campaign=bfsharefacebook&ref=mobile_share

That's obscene. Such double standards.

Anyone who follows the Royals knows that you could pull out headlines showing the poor treatment of any Royal.

Can you pull some nasty Kate headlines then?

Not pp but the UK press nicknamed her "Waity Katy" because she hung around for EIGHT years before they got married.

Which turned out to be the smart thing to do considering Meghan couldn’t even make it 2!

What? This makes no sense. Meghan didn’t have to hang around, as Harry proposed relatively quickly.

Kate waited around while Wills was out sowing his wild oats, as she had no ambition to do anything with her life, save for marrying William.

She met him at 19, not 36. Of course they stayed together for several years before getting engaged. But this is besides the point, she was taunted with Waity Katie for years, often to her face, because she wasn't a member of the family and there were fewer restrictions on the press. Her parents were fashioned as country bumpkins, social climbers, her sister was hounded. Let's be honest, it wasn't the press that drove the Sussexes decision, they just didn't want to be second fiddle and I can't say I blame them.

Many people meet their spouse in college and still develop a real career for themselves (I did!) they called her Waity because she did nothing befitting her degree. No one knew who Pippa was until Kate’s wedding and Pippa sought the press attention so she could hawk her basic garbage (remember Pippa tips?). That said I do think the press coverage of her parents was unfair. Carole Middleton seems like a very ambitious and hardworking person who is basically like a classier, British Kris Jenner. And just like Kris her least successful child is her son.

I’ve forgiven Kate for not doing much with her degree. I myself failed two classes in a semester when putting too much time into a relationship. And the relationship ended.

I ended up re-taking the classes, which doesnt remove the Fs from my college transcript but did replace the grade for the GPA. This issue hasn’t followed me at all, and I feel like a normal amount of success for an average person.

I can imagine being in love with William and loved by him, and all of the on and off stuff was intoxicating and distracting.

We all make certain mistakes and we can’t go back in time. Yes, you can remember this little fact about her, but I don’t know that there are more perfect people for the job than her. If there were someone else.. the stars would have had to align perfectly. Again, you can’t go back and line everything up just so.

They broke up multiple times during this time for William to pursue other women. Which is all the more reason why her not pursuing a real career is so weird. Long-term (10 years!!!) underemployment/unemployment is not a little fact.

And why it's not surprising that William is cheating on her now. Wills can't keep it in his pants.

Why hello Meghan, or is this Jessica?

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Anonymous wrote:I really think Meghan pulled a bait and switch.

As young and ditzy Chelsy and Cressida were, they were smart enough to realize the royal life is not the life they wanted and broke up with Harry. Meghan probably reassured Harry she could handle the pressure, and it was the kind of life she wanted. Bait and switch. And now poor Harry is stuck and has no choice to try to make his marriage work. But oops - Meghan doesn't actually want to give up the royal title and perks; she just doesn't want to do the boring stuff. She wants to hang out at George Clooney's villa and Beyonce's yacht.

I agree with others - they will have a rough transition. They think the media will lessen up - it won't.

I really think Harry wanted out of being a senior member of the Royal Family with all of the tedium and hard work that is required, and he married an American in order to create an escape hatch.

I think this is even more complex than the reality.. which is that as a young bachelor, it made sense to some degree for Harry to play the role of a senior Royal. It took some of the burden off Wills and Kate while they bred their heir and spare. Now, as a husband and father who is not in line for succession, it makes sense that he should turn his focus to his family and his own life.

They never said they wanted to cut ties - they merely said they wanted to step back from the position of royals, which is a life constantly on duty. They chose not to give Archie a title, but Anne, the Queen’s daughter, chose not to give her children titles. They are still Royals. Just not in the same capacity.

Except Anne's kids shut up and do their jobs. They don't cry and whine about no one asking if they are "ok". Did you ask Zara if she was "OK" after she had her kids?

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Anonymous wrote:Was this already shared?

Here Are 20 Headlines Comparing Meghan Markle To Kate Middleton That May Show Why She And Prince Harry Are Cutting Off Royal Reporters

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ellievhall/meghan-markle-kate-middleton-double-standards-royal?utm_source=dynamic&utm_campaign=bfsharefacebook&ref=mobile_share

That's obscene. Such double standards.

Anyone who follows the Royals knows that you could pull out headlines showing the poor treatment of any Royal.

Can you pull some nasty Kate headlines then?

Not pp but the UK press nicknamed her "Waity Katy" because she hung around for EIGHT years before they got married.

Which turned out to be the smart thing to do considering Meghan couldn’t even make it 2!

What? This makes no sense. Meghan didn’t have to hang around, as Harry proposed relatively quickly.

Kate waited around while Wills was out sowing his wild oats, as she had no ambition to do anything with her life, save for marrying William.

She met him at 19, not 36. Of course they stayed together for several years before getting engaged. But this is besides the point, she was taunted with Waity Katie for years, often to her face, because she wasn't a member of the family and there were fewer restrictions on the press. Her parents were fashioned as country bumpkins, social climbers, her sister was hounded. Let's be honest, it wasn't the press that drove the Sussexes decision, they just didn't want to be second fiddle and I can't say I blame them.

Many people meet their spouse in college and still develop a real career for themselves (I did!) they called her Waity because she did nothing befitting her degree. No one knew who Pippa was until Kate’s wedding and Pippa sought the press attention so she could hawk her basic garbage (remember Pippa tips?). That said I do think the press coverage of her parents was unfair. Carole Middleton seems like a very ambitious and hardworking person who is basically like a classier, British Kris Jenner. And just like Kris her least successful child is her son.

I’ve forgiven Kate for not doing much with her degree. I myself failed two classes in a semester when putting too much time into a relationship. And the relationship ended.

I ended up re-taking the classes, which doesnt remove the Fs from my college transcript but did replace the grade for the GPA. This issue hasn’t followed me at all, and I feel like a normal amount of success for an average person.

I can imagine being in love with William and loved by him, and all of the on and off stuff was intoxicating and distracting.

We all make certain mistakes and we can’t go back in time. Yes, you can remember this little fact about her, but I don’t know that there are more perfect people for the job than her. If there were someone else.. the stars would have had to align perfectly. Again, you can’t go back and line everything up just so.

They broke up multiple times during this time for William to pursue other women. Which is all the more reason why her not pursuing a real career is so weird. Long-term (10 years!!!) underemployment/unemployment is not a little fact.

And why it's not surprising that William is cheating on her now. Wills can't keep it in his pants.

He’s been cheating on her since they started dating.

Her most exceptional quality is her ability to look the other way and swallow her pride. The only time his affairs were even remotely an issue was when he cheated with her best friend. The affair with Rose seems like the only time she was actually hurt by the cheating. The rest of it was just business as usual.

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Anonymous wrote:I hope to goodness they get mauled to death by a grizzly in Vancouver.
Dear god please send Ursus arctos horribilis to put an end to the media's obsession with this couple.

You do know Vancouver is a metropolitan city, right? Not all of Canada is tundra and wide open space.